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post #15811 of 35372
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Originally Posted by Indyjones View Post

That's what I have my current rears on now, but I the room is currently flipped the other way, so that my right rear is sitting in the doorway. When I get the new speakers, I'm gonna flip the room the other way. This way, I have some side wall to work with and no breaker box to deal with on the back wall. And I want to eliminate the stands altogether.

If I put the surrounds on the side wall, which it seems is the ideal placement for a 5.1 system ( mine's a 5.2 ), how far behind the listening position should they be? I have roughly 3ft to work with on the one wall, from the window to the back wall.

3 degrees behind ...IIRC mine in my front room HT are that way .
post #15812 of 35372
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Originally Posted by StuBerger View Post

I've been debating getting the Emotiva 3 channel amp and use that for my front soundstage and use the VSX92THX to power the sides and rears!

for $200 more get a XPA-5 then have a evenly balanced power system to all the speakers.
post #15813 of 35372
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post


3 degrees behind ...IIRC mine in my front room HT are that way .

About how far back is that in "dummies" terms? :P Actually, I'd have about 2ft to work with, since that's about how far away from the back wall the sofa would be.

And, I just heard back from Sound Distributors and they quoted me the same system at $100 less than the other guy. I haven't bought from them before. Are they reputable and do they take paypal?
post #15814 of 35372
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Originally Posted by Mupi View Post


So you are moving from KG to Heritage now?

No I don't have the kg's yet. Still have no reply from the seller on craigslist. I was wanting the 4.2's he had to use for surrounds. I have a pair of la scalas now and I am using a klipsch pro audio surround speaker I picked up from CL for $20 for a center channel. Its not ideal and doesn't have the top end like the la scalas but it does well with voices and normal center channel duties.

Right now the room houses my system which is the speakers I mentioned and two athena bookshelf speakers for surrounds and a danley dts-10 along with a 55" samsung lcd. Along with all that is 2 computers that are used for my primary pc and an adittional for my kids to play on. Add the beer fridge I have in the back and I've got components for a game room.

It was a game room before but after getting good grades consistently we let my teenage step daughter have that as her room. It wasn't a hard choice for me to let the room go because I wanted to see what everything would be like in a smaller room (living room). There were good and bad points for the living room system. Since then she has fallen back on her grades a bit so I decided to move all the stuff back down there. Now I pretty much have a blank canvas to start on. Well, blank with a couple girly red walls.

My only hang up at the moment is I don't know whether to go back to a game room setup (I still have all the gear for that...posters, neon Notre Dame sign, etc.) Or to try and make the room ready for a projector setup and make it into a pseudo theater room. I'll have to leave both of the computers in the room but I can move the cases in a closet if I can find long enough monitor cables and good enough wireless mouse and keyboard setups. The beer fridge can stay or go. For a game room I want to keep it but the noise from it is just enough for me to hear and I want a very quiet room. Some of the rooms I have been in seem so quiet you could hear a bug's thoughts. I want that for the dynamics I can gain.
post #15815 of 35372
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post


for $200 more get a XPA-5 then have a evenly balanced power system to all the speakers.

Wouldn't the Pioneer be enough for the surrounds?
post #15816 of 35372
The Pioneer is enough to power all of the speakers.
post #15817 of 35372
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Originally Posted by chashint View Post

The Pioneer is enough to power all of the speakers.

That's what I thought but was going to maybe get the amp for the fronts. I have heard that what the true power of a AV receiver isn't really what it is listed as. Usually the rating is only driving 2 speakers and the more you drive the less the total power to each channel driven. Then I heard this doesn't hold true to some....
post #15818 of 35372
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Originally Posted by StuBerger View Post

Wouldn't the Pioneer be enough for the surrounds?

In theroy Yeah . But with my set-up I have all channels @ the same power levels & the headroom is incredible to say the least . In a Dynamic Action movie , I really hear & feel the difference . over what I had before

Stu they have a very generous return policy , no questions asked . ILOVEMYHD is still raving about how well a XPA-5 did for his system & he has just about the same set-up as you . Me & him PM back & forth all the time. He still thanks me for the advice to go with a XPA-5 instead of a XPA-3 , He was really blow away on how much detail he now hears . I found that I can actually hear more detail without having to run @ the higher levels like I was running before my EMO came . I fully thought I'd send it back , but I was wrong , I was just trying it out as a bet with myself.
post #15819 of 35372
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Originally Posted by Indyjones View Post

About how far back is that in "dummies" terms? :P Actually, I'd have about 2ft to work with, since that's about how far away from the back wall the sofa would be.

And, I just heard back from Sound Distributors and they quoted me the same system at $100 less than the other guy. I haven't bought from them before. Are they reputable and do they take paypal?

the 2 foot would work fine ( as in even with your ears Or the end of the sofa ) & it would be best to get the RB-81's as direct radiators , & you could add a set of RS's when you go 7.2 . my own bedroom the side surrounds are 2 foot forward from the headboard .

Is Sound Distributors in Las Vegas ?? If so shoot Browning Gold a PM as he got his stuff from them & he was very happy with the service IIRC .
post #15820 of 35372
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Originally Posted by brandonnash View Post

No I don't have the kg's yet. Still have no reply from the seller on craigslist. I was wanting the 4.2's he had to use for surrounds. I have a pair of la scalas now and I am using a klipsch pro audio surround speaker I picked up from CL for $20 for a center channel. Its not ideal and doesn't have the top end like the la scalas but it does well with voices and normal center channel duties.

Right now the room houses my system which is the speakers I mentioned and two athena bookshelf speakers for surrounds and a danley dts-10 along with a 55" samsung lcd. Along with all that is 2 computers that are used for my primary pc and an adittional for my kids to play on. Add the beer fridge I have in the back and I've got components for a game room.

It was a game room before but after getting good grades consistently we let my teenage step daughter have that as her room. It wasn't a hard choice for me to let the room go because I wanted to see what everything would be like in a smaller room (living room). There were good and bad points for the living room system. Since then she has fallen back on her grades a bit so I decided to move all the stuff back down there. Now I pretty much have a blank canvas to start on. Well, blank with a couple girly red walls.

My only hang up at the moment is I don't know whether to go back to a game room setup (I still have all the gear for that...posters, neon Notre Dame sign, etc.) Or to try and make the room ready for a projector setup and make it into a pseudo theater room. I'll have to leave both of the computers in the room but I can move the cases in a closet if I can find long enough monitor cables and good enough wireless mouse and keyboard setups. The beer fridge can stay or go. For a game room I want to keep it but the noise from it is just enough for me to hear and I want a very quiet room. Some of the rooms I have been in seem so quiet you could hear a bug's thoughts. I want that for the dynamics I can gain.

Yeah that sounds like a good plan .. Look for Fortes as well
I have a living room that the wife let me do what I want ...
soo it's HT now with sofas . works quite well me & the wife + 3 dogs . i don't have any background sound @ all in the room
With 4 CornScala's & 5 CS-1.5's you wouldn't hear it any way L O L ..
post #15821 of 35372
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Originally Posted by chashint View Post

The Pioneer is enough to power all of the speakers.

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Originally Posted by StuBerger View Post

That's what I thought but was going to maybe get the amp for the fronts. I have heard that what the true power of a AV receiver isn't really what it is listed as. Usually the rating is only driving 2 speakers and the more you drive the less the total power to each channel driven. Then I heard this doesn't hold true to some....

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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

the 2 foot would work fine ( as in even with your ears Or the end of the sofa ) & it would be best to get the RB-81's as direct radiators , & you could add a set of RS's when you go 7.2 . my own bedroom the side surrounds are 2 foot forward from the headboard .

Is Sound Distributors in Las Vegas ?? If so shoot Browning Gold a PM as he got his stuff from them & he was very happy with the service IIRC .

HI ALL. YES I AM A BORN AGAIN "EMO"..... my set is this. For my itty bitty MAN CAVE. ONKYO 5008, pre outs to EMOTIVA XPA5. That the entire front stage is powered from front mains R/L RF82's RC62 an RB81's for heights. Then the ONK powers the rear's, 4xss3's. BBBuut one pair are being retired due to age, and unsuccessful rebuild. Then one day last week one farted. It was bad, an it keeps on farting.... mind you i used OEM replacement parts. OHH well, there always that risk. SSSoooooo got some more RB81's coming for main surrounds and keeping the last pair ss3's untill XMAS. then will see. But back to the upgrade to the XPA 5. YOU DO KNOW THE KLIPSCH THEME? well i was skeptical; but I AM happily in debt. AND THIS AMP IS CAPABLE AND SOME... TO BRING THIS OUT OF THESE SPEAKERS. DUDE I GIGGLE LIKE A 13yr old looking at his first ADULT magazine .
post #15822 of 35372
I have Klipsch KLF-20's and a KLF-C7, along with matching S7 surrounds. What is a step up from these speakers in the current Klipsch line? Thanks,

Dave
post #15823 of 35372
http://emotiva.com/xpa5.shtm they do have a 30 day try it, if you no like it; send it back. But YOU must contact customer service. And they were VERY helpful when i had a BUNCH of questions. note that i am a regular joe that is a latino by blood; i work get paid pay my bills be broke; eat some ramen soup, pb&j while enjoying my itty bitty MAN CAVE.
post #15824 of 35372
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Originally Posted by Nanook01 View Post

I have Klipsch KLF-20's and a KLF-C7, along with matching S7 surrounds. What is a step up from these speakers in the current Klipsch line? Thanks,

Dave

HI AGAIN. http://www.klipsch.com/klf-20 , the specs are impressive. Things to consider. Are you original or 2nd owner? do they function well? do all of the speakers function well? if so i would invest in separate amp. With something NEW to do all the decode an YES calibration/room correction. http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/multeq is ssssooooo good. Gonna do it for my car in the coming months. Play those speaks until they fart....as you can read in the above...... wellll hearing is believing !!
post #15825 of 35372
So like nanoook, I too the other day was thinking what else I could do to my setup to get better sound. I am going to start with room acoustics (panels and bass traps) and hope to get wifey approval.

Besides that I was thinking of an amp like the XPA5. My question is would I hear a difference with an amp since I have a Onkyo 5007 powering my 5.2 setup? I have the front bi-amped so they are getting between 200-300 watts (theatrically).

Just looking for opinion on an amp making a audible difference. Maybe I should upgrade to RF-7's ? Of course a pair of Revel Salon's would be a nice upgrade but I can't see myself buy a cars amount in speakers unless I win the lotto.

BTW, setup are KLF-30's (updated Bob Crites X-overs and tweeter diaphragms)m KLF-C-7 (updated Bob Crites X-overs and tweeter diaphragms), RS-52's, and two HSUResearch VTF3.3's
post #15826 of 35372
dalumberjack, that's a tough question. If I had your system, I don't think I'd look to an amp first. It would make a difference, but minor compared to what a speaker upgrade would do. Upgrading to the RF7 would be worth it if you liked/needed more impact and volume. If you were happy in those two areas, I wouldn't change that either.

If you liked things "base strong", upgrading your subs might make the biggest impact on your system.

It's a compliment to your system really. I don't think small upgrades are worth it. If you go through the expense and hassle of a change, do it all the way!

Starting with those room treatments are likely to have more effect than any of the equipment changes. It did in my room.
post #15827 of 35372
HI, didn't the above testimony show on your screen? I DID allot of researching for months before purchase. I went to a in my region HT store. They shot down the idea a online retailer/manufacturer. They said that the "name" brands they sell, have advertising LARGER than EMOTIVA has total to engineer. So their assumption is cheap azz stuff. 1) they have a 5 yr warranty. 2)30 day trial; but call customer support.3)for less than 1k......THERE IS NO BETTER.....PERIOD.....even for amps up to 3to5 times as much. Even with so called older speakers......these amps will let them breathe, run, gallop hummmm, sing. Did I mention the XPA 5 IS A BEAST..... I have mine for a month, during first assembly everything fine. Made some switching with speaker wires. OOOps hooked up wrong and it went to protect mode.....No smoke no fire. Hooked it correct. Well i am happy.
post #15828 of 35372
Are you talking to me? I've owned an XPA5 for nearly two years now. I know all about it. I offer opinions based on things I have already been through.
post #15829 of 35372
no; it just to jack. I believe that room treatment is part of the quest to HT nirvana. Up grading the speakers is a major step; but if they work; why not put more TRUE rms power. An you to are to also happy.... any issues?
post #15830 of 35372
nice cave tony.....mine will grow up some day...
post #15831 of 35372
Hi again, I have rf82 fronts and rc62 as center, I ran audyssey auto setup many times on denon 991, it keeps setting the rc62 crossover at 100Hz, I also have rb61 and it set them at either 40Hz or 60Hz. Is there something wrong with my RC62? Isn't the rc62 capable of reaching down to 57Hz? Anyone have similar experience? Thanks again.
post #15832 of 35372
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Originally Posted by ILOVEMYHDTV View Post
nice cave tony.....mine will grow up some day...
Thanks. It's been alot of hard work. All done myself.

I LOVE the XPA5. It was a significant upgrade. There were just several other changes that I put ahead of it in value. 1. Better subwoofers 2. Better Main speakers 3. room treatment.
post #15833 of 35372
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Originally Posted by bobdit View Post
Hi again, I have rf82 fronts and rc62 as center, I ran audyssey auto setup many times on denon 991, it keeps setting the rc62 crossover at 100Hz, I also have rb61 and it set them at either 40Hz or 60Hz. Is there something wrong with my RC62? Isn't the rc62 capable of reaching down to 57Hz? Anyone have similar experience? Thanks again.
HI, well if you can go into menus and see if you can manually change; not familiar with denon; give it a try.............
post #15834 of 35372
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Originally Posted by ILOVEMYHDTV View Post
HI, didn't the above testimony show on your screen? I DID allot of researching for months before purchase. I went to a in my region HT store. They shot down the idea a online retailer/manufacturer. They said that the "name" brands they sell, have advertising LARGER than EMOTIVA has total to engineer. So their assumption is cheap azz stuff. 1) they have a 5 yr warranty. 2)30 day trial; but call customer support.3)for less than 1k......THERE IS NO BETTER.....PERIOD.....even for amps up to 3to5 times as much. Even with so called older speakers......these amps will let them breathe, run, gallop hummmm, sing. Did I mention the XPA 5 IS A BEAST..... I have mine for a month, during first assembly everything fine. Made some switching with speaker wires. OOOps hooked up wrong and it went to protect mode.....No smoke no fire. Hooked it correct. Well i am happy.
I just picked up a UPA2 to run my RF7's and let the AVR run the RC7 and RS7. Things sound cleaner and crisper with the UPA2.
post #15835 of 35372
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Originally Posted by bobdit View Post
Hi again, I have rf82 fronts and rc62 as center, I ran audyssey auto setup many times on denon 991, it keeps setting the rc62 crossover at 100Hz, I also have rb61 and it set them at either 40Hz or 60Hz. Is there something wrong with my RC62? Isn't the rc62 capable of reaching down to 57Hz? Anyone have similar experience? Thanks again.
Your seating may be in a null for the center channel.
I have Pioneer and it sets all the speakers to large if the cal is put into full autopilot mode.
You might consider setting the crossover of the surrounds to 80Hz.
post #15836 of 35372
Thanks for your responses. Looking forward to learning more.

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Originally Posted by ILOVEMYHDTV View Post
HI, well if you can go into menus and see if you can manually change; not familiar with denon; give it a try.............
Yes, I can change it from the menu, but according to the Audessy setup guide I shouldn't be lowering the crossover, as I understand it.

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Originally Posted by chashint View Post
Your seating may be in a null for the center channel.
I have Pioneer and it sets all the speakers to large if the cal is put into full autopilot mode.
You might consider setting the crossover of the surrounds to 80Hz.
I heard about this "null" thingie, what does it mean? Yes, I raise all my speakers to 80Hz even though Audyssey sets them at 40Hz and 60Hz as recommended by the Audyssey guide.
post #15837 of 35372
I have a RC-62 center, I just raised the input gain until "I" heard it better.
Every room has it's problems and everyones ears hear different. The older I get the more I seem to increase the inputs to my center for voices during Bluray Movies. Use a SPL meter and check each speaker.
post #15838 of 35372
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Originally Posted by Dalumberjack View Post
So like nanoook, I too the other day was thinking what else I could do to my setup to get better sound. I am going to start with room acoustics (panels and bass traps) and hope to get wifey approval.

Besides that I was thinking of an amp like the XPA5. My question is would I hear a difference with an amp since I have a Onkyo 5007 powering my 5.2 setup? I have the front bi-amped so they are getting between 200-300 watts (theatrically).

Just looking for opinion on an amp making a audible difference. Maybe I should upgrade to RF-7's ? Of course a pair of Revel Salon's would be a nice upgrade but I can't see myself buy a cars amount in speakers unless I win the lotto.

BTW, setup are KLF-30's (updated Bob Crites X-overs and tweeter diaphragms)m KLF-C-7 (updated Bob Crites X-overs and tweeter diaphragms), RS-52's, and two HSUResearch VTF3.3's
I'd stick with what you have as for speakers & up-grade other things in your system . I myself have a TX-NR5008 & a UPA-7 Emotiva . So Yes you are going to hear a big difference
by adding a XPA-5, you will experience a much larger soundstage , more detail, better instrument separation,lower sound floor, increased headroom ,more dynamics when watching action movies.
those speaks you have are great .


I also have Crites mods
post #15839 of 35372
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Originally Posted by bobdit View Post
Hi again, I have rf82 fronts and rc62 as center, I ran audyssey auto setup many times on denon 991, it keeps setting the rc62 crossover at 100Hz, I also have rb61 and it set them at either 40Hz or 60Hz. Is there something wrong with my RC62? Isn't the rc62 capable of reaching down to 57Hz? Anyone have similar experience? Thanks again.
where is the center located ???
, it sounds like a bad location as mine was,
I found the speaker was pushed back into the Entertainment cabinet by 3" from the edge. By bringing it out to where it hung 1" over the edge of the shelf the Audyssey set it as to 50 like the matching height & wides as they are all the same speaker .I was watching the Audyssey thread & this issue popped up by a poster & they advised him to move his center out 3" & I'll be damned he came right back on & said that he did move it back 3" & now the XO was set fine. did the same with mine & now I'm a Happy Camper !

Soo I'd look @ placement 1st . It also matters on the way the Mic is placed during calibration, you get the best reading from a boom mic stand , then a tripod , putting the mic on pillows & a stool will bork your readings

I have one of the Amazon boom mic stands & adapter that everyone on the Audessey thread uses ..$ 24.00 shipped free .. works Really well anyone needs a link just ask ..
post #15840 of 35372
The guy with the kg 4.2's never replied so that will be a no go. But!!!...I have found someone with some other klipsch stuff very local. He lives about 5 minutes from me and he has a ton of stuff that was apparently pulled from an IMAX theater. I'm going over to have a listen at around 3. Very VERY good deal on the stuff. From the sound of it I need a few hundred more dollars to buy him out of his entire stock. He doesn't know much more about the speakers but from the pics and the research I did it looks like he has some kpt-941's but the tweeter is much smaller than the pic on the klipsch website. The bottom is exactly like on the website. Dual 15's and 4 ports lining the bottom. I'm going to listen to everything he has and if I like it all I may have to sell a bunch of stuff to get it all!! I really have NO extra money right now but the price he is offering I won't be able to pass up some of his other stuff.
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