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Mine are 37.
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32 wish I was again.
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hi all. i hope my series IV last that long. i would love to get rid of some of this debt. An not have to "upgrade" any more. at least for speaker ...
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OOHH YEA.. did get to see the DIY channel HOLLYWOOD HI-TECH title on episolde is "Patrick Warburton" ? They installed a 7.3 KLIPSCH SYSTEM. good stuff....
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Hey everybody. I was an ex-polk owner but I found a great deal on some F-30s and couldn't pass it up. Now I've got all klipsch speakers with a polk sub.

Yamaha RX 465
Klipsch F30 towers
Klipsch VC 25 center
Klipsch KB 15 rears
Polk PSW 10 sub
Sharp 40" LCD 60hz 1080p
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post #15936 of 35426
Upgrade that sub and I think you'll be very happy...well, at least till the bug bites you again. That little 10" will have problems keeping up with the rest of what you have.
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Glad to see another F-30 owner here! What are your impressions? Most try to push others towards the RF line because they say the Synergy line is "cheap" but I find the F-30s to be amazing, and I did compare them with the RFs. What do you think of them?
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Originally Posted by brandonnash View Post

Upgrade that sub and I think you'll be very happy...well, at least till the bug bites you again. That little 10" will have problems keeping up with the rest of what you have.

Yeah, I'm looking for a good klipsch sub right now. That polk is only 50watt RMS and tends to be a bit blowy. I've got it tuned nicely enough for movies but when it comes to music it's just a the butt of my system.

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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

Glad to see another F-30 owner here! What are your impressions? Most try to push others towards the RF line because they say the Synergy line is "cheap" but I find the F-30s to be amazing, and I did compare them with the RFs. What do you think of them?

I had heard the full Reference line in a demo room at a place I used to work. I wasn't impressed until I hit the RF-83. The the others in the series were too harsh for my ears. Then again, I wasn't able to mess with the receiver long enough to really match it nicely for my ears. I had also heard all of the Icon series with best buy and they were pretty nice as well. Thought it was the same story. Slightly to harsh, but for those it was worse because it was the 2005 series that maxed with a 3 way 6.5 drivers.
The Synergy series was a total shot in the dark. I found them online brand new for 250. I jumped on them with the quickness. Needless to say it made an impression and I gave away all my Polks, other than the sub, away to a friend that needed them.
I spent a day at a friends house, he has the RF-42s I think. He let me mess with his settings to see if I could make the RF-42s sounds better to me. After about 15 mins I evened the sound out and it sounded pretty killer.
But given that I've only had time with this set of Synergy and the 2005 icon and 2011 icon series I can't really give an accurate comparison between the Reference line and the Synergy. I can say that the Icon 2011 and the Synergy line are almost identical. With a flat eq and balanced level the voices are matched almost perfectly between my speakers.

But for the short answer: I think they're great. Even at full price I would be very pleased. They deliver really solid bass for there size and happen to be one of the only set of speakers I haven't had to sink the mid out of the EQ to make it sound more balanced.
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I'd stay away from klipsch subs. They will get louder and a bit deeper than your current sub but not by a bunch. They're not bad subs, just not really good subs either. The only klipsch subs I've heard that I would be willing to own are the thx ultras and the rsw-15 and those would come with the disclaimer of having to be ultra cheap. For the money you can do much better. I believe that klipsch's subs are the least impressive products they make.
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Originally Posted by brandonnash View Post

I'd stay away from klipsch subs. They will get louder and a bit deeper than your current sub but not by a bunch. They're not bad subs, just not really good subs either. The only klipsch subs I've heard that I would be willing to own are the thx ultras and the rsw-15 and those would come with the disclaimer of having to be ultra cheap. For the money you can do much better. I believe that klipsch's subs are the least impressive products they make.

Any recommendations that would do well with my current set up?
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Two big factors come to mind. Size and budget. Not sure what your knowledge of subwoofers is but the law with subs is small size, extension, and spl. Out of those 3 you can pick 2. If you're looking for performance the bigger the sub the better if you're going with a single sub.

Are you handy with tools? You could always build one and have a killer sub for very little money compared to what you would spend in the commercially built market. Get back with us on budget and size restrictions and we'll see what we can throw together.
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Right now I'm in an apartment. The reason I ended up with the towers is because I found them on a good sale. I plan on moving by the beginning of next year. So right now a sub isn't the most important thing, but I'm always looking for a good deal.

As far as handy with tools; I can build computers, put together desks desks and basic car maintenance.

Budget is a factor, the IT industry where I live doesn't pay very well. The size won't matter because I won't be in the apartment for much longer and I have enough self control to not bother the neighbors with my current set.
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Originally Posted by brandonnash View Post

I'd stay away from klipsch subs. They will get louder and a bit deeper than your current sub but not by a bunch. They're not bad subs, just not really good subs either. The only klipsch subs I've heard that I would be willing to own are the thx ultras and the rsw-15 and those would come with the disclaimer of having to be ultra cheap. For the money you can do much better. I believe that klipsch's subs are the least impressive products they make.

OUCH....... I have a small room 12X14 with Cornwalls for front RC62 center and RS3-II rears and two Klipsch Sub 12" 300/650 Bash that I got used and when tuned right on Bluray movies made HUGE difference. My cheep set up sounds Much better then it looks on paper. My friend has a huge room with SVS Ultra 13 and room full of Klipsch towers and he even said in this small
den I got lucky with how good the bass sounds on music and Blurays. Small room and low ceilings is what he said saved me from ubber expensive subs with super expensive amps that cost $600.00when they go out. See what SVS wants for that Digital amp when warranty runs out. Glad I have small room and 500 bucks in 2 used old Klipsch Synergy subs. I am 61 and have had a SunFire (Carver amp) I understand what you are saying about "For Klipsch" these are "entry" level subs. But they work Great in the right room when they are set up and placed correctly. And they are 6 years old and still
work like new.jus sayin...... I differ on Stay Away from Klipsch Subs.

I do see what you mean that a bigger room will NEED a more powerfull Sub.
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Originally Posted by brandonnash View Post

I'd stay away from klipsch subs. They will get louder and a bit deeper than your current sub but not by a bunch. They're not bad subs, just not really good subs either. The only klipsch subs I've heard that I would be willing to own are the thx ultras and the rsw-15 and those would come with the disclaimer of having to be ultra cheap. For the money you can do much better. I believe that klipsch's subs are the least impressive products they make.

I have Klipsch speakers and love them. However their subs are not nearly as good.

I would go w/ one of the ID subs touted on this forum (ED, Chase, HSU, etc).
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

OUCH....... I have a small room 12X14 with Cornwalls for front RC62 center and RS3-II rears and two Klipsch Sub 12" 300/650 Bash that I got used and when tuned right on Bluray movies made HUGE difference. My cheep set up sounds Much better then it looks on paper. My friend has a huge room with SVS Ultra 13 and room full of Klipsch towers and he even said in this small
den I got lucky with how good the bass sounds on music and Blurays. Small room and low ceilings is what he said saved me from ubber expensive subs with super expensive amps that cost $600.00when they go out. See what SVS wants for that Digital amp when warranty runs out. Glad I have small room and 500 bucks in 2 used old Klipsch Synergy subs. I am 61 and have had a SunFire (Carver amp) I understand what you are saying about "For Klipsch" these are "entry" level subs. But they work Great in the right room when they are set up and placed correctly. And they are 6 years old and still
work like new.jus sayin...... I differ on Stay Away from Klipsch Subs.

I do see what you mean that a bigger room will NEED a more powerfull Sub.

I get plenty of bass with my RF7 setup and Sunfire True sub. This is in a 13x15 bedroom with low ceilings.
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I plan to buy the RF-82 5.1 series but was curious if these would be a problem in a concrete apartment (750 sqft). I've never had a sound system in an apartment before. If the building is made of concrete, will playing the speakers at a normal volume travel to my neighbours (windows/doors closed)? I assume some volume would pass, but curious if I would have to always listen to these speakers at a super quiet volume.
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Originally Posted by The_Justin View Post

Right now I'm in an apartment. The reason I ended up with the towers is because I found them on a good sale. I plan on moving by the beginning of next year. So right now a sub isn't the most important thing, but I'm always looking for a good deal.

As far as handy with tools; I can build computers, put together desks desks and basic car maintenance.

Budget is a factor, the IT industry where I live doesn't pay very well. The size won't matter because I won't be in the apartment for much longer and I have enough self control to not bother the neighbors with my current set.

Well definitely get back with us when you decide its time to make your move to a different sub. Right now on the diy side the F20 is getting great reviews. It can be built very cheaply comparative to other subs. Its a 15" horn loaded subwoofer that can take I believe around 500 watts. $500 or less and you can build it depending on amp choice and wood preference.

Other possibilities are building the THT from www.billfitzmaurice.com. $15 gets you very detailed step by step plans and for around $400 you get very good performance down to about 20 hz. Past that an LLT sub would be less difficult to build and you can get loud and very low with them, but to get one built correctly you'll need a good driver and amp. Can be done cheaply but it won't get quite as loud as the horns.

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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post


OUCH....... I have a small room 12X14 with Cornwalls for front RC62 center and RS3-II rears and two Klipsch Sub 12" 300/650 Bash that I got used and when tuned right on Bluray movies made HUGE difference. My cheep set up sounds Much better then it looks on paper. My friend has a huge room with SVS Ultra 13 and room full of Klipsch towers and he even said in this small
den I got lucky with how good the bass sounds on music and Blurays. Small room and low ceilings is what he said saved me from ubber expensive subs with super expensive amps that cost $600.00when they go out. See what SVS wants for that Digital amp when warranty runs out. Glad I have small room and 500 bucks in 2 used old Klipsch Synergy subs. I am 61 and have had a SunFire (Carver amp) I understand what you are saying about "For Klipsch" these are "entry" level subs. But they work Great in the right room when they are set up and placed correctly. And they are 6 years old and still
work like new.jus sayin...... I differ on Stay Away from Klipsch Subs.

I do see what you mean that a bigger room will NEED a more powerfull Sub.

Like I said, they're not necessarily bad subs, just that you can find better for cheaper.

An example on the top end...their new 312 subwoofer. Its touted as having 3 12", which in a way it does, but only one is a driver and the other 2 are passive radiators. Powered by 1000 watts it does have a decent amount of power. Problem is you're essentially getting a 12" driver in a sealed enclosure that's tuned a bit lower. $4000. No doubt its a decent subwoofer if price is taken away, but it won't get insanely deep (quoted at -3db at 18 hz, but I doubt it can actually do that) and probably can't get extremely loud (only so much a single 12" can do). For $4000 I expect end all performance.

On the lower end most of their subs are ported and actually tuned much higher than what they are quoted. The kw-100 is a 10" ported sub with a 55 watt amp. $319 I believe. Not a horrible price, but you can get more for for less. I'd go with a BIC subwoofer where you get more power and a bigger driver for less money.
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Brandon when I was looking for two used subs many years ago after the Sunfire burned up the amp and I got Pop's Cornwalls. And placed them in this tiny room.$250.00 did not buy a lot of sub, and I wanted to stay with Klipsch. I guess having 2 15" woofer(Cornwalls) 8 feet apart and towed in the corners and aimed at the center of the sofa 7 feet back 2 12" 300/650 watt subs work Great. $250.00 each shipped and all these years later they still work fine.... 7 Klipsch(5.2) in a small room works for me. If I had a huge room......... again a pair of SVS etc would be great. Retired......... on a fixed income now. And most of those huge super amps don't play every day for years at a time without problems.Need a more dynamic sound........get closer to your speakers. I agree with bigger is better but sometimes not needed.
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Thought someone might be interested at seeing the pics of this Klipschorn, which CL poster says was purchased from the Klipsch Museum. It looks more than "a little rough" to me, but hey, it's a piece of history.

http://portland.craigslist.org/yam/ele/2533036978.html
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Originally Posted by TalkingRat View Post
Thought someone might be interested at seeing the pics of this Klipschorn, which CL poster says was purchased from the Klipsch Museum. It looks more than "a little rough" to me, but hey, it's a piece of history.

http://portland.craigslist.org/yam/ele/2533036978.html
Link is deleated...bummer. If I had a bigger room Khorns were so accurate.
I grew up in the 60's and my Dad had them and in last 50 year of me growing up him and my older brother, they had about all the Heritage line and then some.
Pop never like the newer towers or Gold woofers......don't know why he never listened to them hard headed and old school They were not what Paul would have built what he told me. I still like KLF 20 and 30's and RF7 etc.
I have had many hours of pleasure with them....most of my freinds have Klipsch...we seek our on kind LMAO
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay
Brandon when I was looking for two used subs many years ago after the Sunfire burned up the amp and I got Pop's Cornwalls. And placed them in this tiny room.$250.00 did not buy a lot of sub, and I wanted to stay with Klipsch. I guess having 2 15" woofer(Cornwalls) 8 feet apart and towed in the corners and aimed at the center of the sofa 7 feet back 2 12" 300/650 watt subs work Great. $250.00 each shipped and all these years later they still work fine.... 7 Klipsch(5.2) in a small room works for me. If I had a huge room......... again a pair of SVS etc would be great. Retired......... on a fixed income now. And most of those huge super amps don't play every day for years at a time without problems.Need a more dynamic sound........get closer to your speakers. I agree with bigger is better but sometimes not needed.
Completely agree. My room is 4000+ cubic feet so I need a bit more. I know cause 5 or 6 years ago I only had a single RCA 10" sub with a 100 watt amp. Needless to say it didn't have the power needed for the room. I've played around with several subs in my room since then. Built a decent size sealed, an llt, had a paradigm sub for a bit during the middle of that, and now I have a Danley DTS-10. Until I can design and build a horn sub to outperform the danley I will just stick with it. I had the rca sub in my last house in a tiny 9x10 foot room with 7 foot ceilings and it was decent for that room. Could do peaks of well over 100 db but couldn't handle the low stuff. Can't imagine what the danley would do in that room, other than taking up half the room in floor space

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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay

Link is deleated...bummer. If I had a bigger room Khorns were so accurate.
I grew up in the 60's and my Dad had them and in last 50 year of me growing up him and my older brother, they had about all the Heritage line and then some.
Pop never like the newer towers or Gold woofers......don't know why he never listened to them hard headed and old school They were not what Paul would have built what he told me. I still like KLF 20 and 30's and RF7 etc.
I have had many hours of pleasure with them....most of my freinds have Klipsch...we seek our on kind LMAO
There is a guy in Nashville that posts a k-horn every couple weeks but a buddy of mine called him and he's pretty set on the price. Let me know if you want the link if he posts again, but they're in good condition and he's "proud of them" when it comes to price.
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post
Link is deleated...bummer. If I had a bigger room Khorns were so accurate.
I grew up in the 60's and my Dad had them and in last 50 year of me growing up him and my older brother, they had about all the Heritage line and then some.
Pop never like the newer towers or Gold woofers......don't know why he never listened to them hard headed and old school They were not what Paul would have built what he told me. I still like KLF 20 and 30's and RF7 etc.
I have had many hours of pleasure with them....most of my freinds have Klipsch...we seek our on kind LMAO
That's odd, still shows for me. We get a couple Klipshorns a month, but this one from the museum looked really old, and it's just a single. I'll see if the picture links get you anything.

http://images.craigslist.org/3k33m83...85ea2314dc.jpg

http://images.craigslist.org/3m73pf3...ea62841050.jpg

http://images.craigslist.org/3ne3mc3...007ad418a7.jpg

Here's the text of the ad:

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I have a vintage klipschorn Serial number 289, making it the 189 unit made, I purchased it from the Klipsch Museum from Hope, Arkansas. Unit needs light restoration Sanding and a new coat of Black Lacquer but crossover and original drivers (Stephens Trusonic 15" bass driver, 2 University compression drivers, and the original fiberglass wood horn) all work so it sounds fine, just looks a little rough. I'm firm on the price, $1000. Serious buyers only please. Email me questions.
No year, but with the museum purchase, maybe he's saying it's the 189th made, ever?
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Originally Posted by eXcalibur000 View Post

I plan to buy the RF-82 5.1 series but was curious if these would be a problem in a concrete apartment (750 sqft). I've never had a sound system in an apartment before. If the building is made of concrete, will playing the speakers at a normal volume travel to my neighbours (windows/doors closed)? I assume some volume would pass, but curious if I would have to always listen to these speakers at a super quiet volume.

HI ALL. well one way is to have you new neighbors play their music LOUD; if you hear them....well they will hear you. You can do some creative sound treatments. From shag rugs .... or thick wool, tapestry on the wall; also can be rugs. Or actual sound treatment you can DIY or purchase out right. BASIC: treatment is place; from MSP you can take a mirror with help of a friend. Go around the room and where ever you see the reflection of the speakers; well that is where you need to put something; to control sound. That would diffidently include the cement floor in front of the speakers.
post #15954 of 35426
Will the rc-62 center be a good match with the rf-62 ii speakers?? I can get it for half the price of the rc-62ii center.
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Originally Posted by Micker View Post

Will the rc-62 center be a good match with the rf-62 ii speakers?? I can get it for half the price of the rc-62ii center.

Yeah it will sound about the same ...
post #15956 of 35426
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Originally Posted by brandonnash View Post

I'd stay away from klipsch subs. They will get louder and a bit deeper than your current sub but not by a bunch. They're not bad subs, just not really good subs either. The only klipsch subs I've heard that I would be willing to own are the thx ultras and the rsw-15 and those would come with the disclaimer of having to be ultra cheap. For the money you can do much better. I believe that klipsch's subs are the least impressive products they make.

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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

OUCH....... I have a small room 12X14 with Cornwalls for front RC62 center and RS3-II rears and two Klipsch Sub 12" 300/650 Bash that I got used and when tuned right on Bluray movies made HUGE difference. My cheep set up sounds Much better then it looks on paper. My friend has a huge room with SVS Ultra 13 and room full of Klipsch towers and he even said in this small
den I got lucky with how good the bass sounds on music and Blurays. Small room and low ceilings is what he said saved me from ubber expensive subs with super expensive amps that cost $600.00when they go out. See what SVS wants for that Digital amp when warranty runs out. Glad I have small room and 500 bucks in 2 used old Klipsch Synergy subs. I am 61 and have had a SunFire (Carver amp) I understand what you are saying about "For Klipsch" these are "entry" level subs. But they work Great in the right room when they are set up and placed correctly. And they are 6 years old and still
work like new.jus sayin...... I differ on Stay Away from Klipsch Subs.

I do see what you mean that a bigger room will NEED a more powerfull Sub.

While I do agree that the Klipsch subs aren't that great when stack up against other subs in the same price range but I got 2 RW-12D's for about 750 and am really pleased with them. Granted my room is smaller, 15Lx10Wx7H, and it shakes not just the room but house up. GF walked out of the house and said she could feel the bass three houses down still. I'm sure there are better ones out there, and when I push these really far I can hear them struggling but usually that's far past the comfortable listening level.
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could get a brand new pair of klipsch f-30's for $600, i was more looking at the reference line but at the this price im thinking about getting them. Any one have experience comparing the f30's and the RF-82 II's?
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Originally Posted by r3bornlife View Post
could get a brand new pair of klipsch f-30's for $600, i was more looking at the reference line but at the this price im thinking about getting them. Any one have experience comparing the f30's and the RF-82 II's?
I had F-3's and the 82II's sounded a lot better to me. They were crisper and they just sounded fuller.
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Originally Posted by Spur Darren View Post
I had F-3's and the 82II's sounded a lot better to me. They were crisper and they just sounded fuller.
I agree. I went from the F3's to the older RF82's and it was a big jump.
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Originally Posted by wizard8873 View Post
While I do agree that the Klipsch subs aren't that great when stack up against other subs in the same price range but I got 2 RW-12D's for about 750 and am really pleased with them. Granted my room is smaller, 15Lx10Wx7H, and it shakes not just the room but house up. GF walked out of the house and said she could feel the bass three houses down still. I'm sure there are better ones out there, and when I push these really far I can hear them struggling but usually that's far past the comfortable listening level.
The small room saved you and me big money on subs for movies. I was suprised how smaller rooms sound with less expensive equipment. Everyone who comes over is suprised how good this combo of old and new Klipsch have mixed up very well. Cornwalls and Reference Series for center and rears. Bluray HD is awsome. Had this set up in larger room and it was Ok but not enough bass for special effects.
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