Klipsch owner thread - Page 568

With your DIY skills I bet it sounds great, I just did the 38% rule and it made a pretty big difference in bass response and detail...took 15 hours to do but oh well LOL!

Yeah I do use dynamic EQ but not dynamic volume. I was thinking of getting the JTR triple 8's but now leaning towards Seaton Catalysts. Iv'e been torn with which subs to get also, the Captivator or the SubMersive........I've decided on the SubM. Right now I use three RF-82II for my fronts and use a SvS PC-13 ultra. I can't wait to start upgrading! and still haven't ruled out the triple 8's.

Hey fellow klipsch lovers, I need some help in figureing out what to do next for upgrading!

Currently have F30 mains, C-2 center, Klipsch sub-12 x3, HK Avr 146, some old Wharfedale Diamond III's for rears. I use my HT for 60% music, 40% TV and pirated movies, Im not big into HT use, and I don't even own a blu-ray player ( Well not since ps3 died :P)

Room Dimensions: 7'2"H, 11'2"W, 28' L

Financial situation: Currently a University student still at home, work a day a week for spending money, but will work a lot more come the summer break. I don't turn 18 for two weeks :P

Anyways. I've been throwing ideas around for what to do next. I love my system but i'm all for trying new things, and I do know my system has shortcomings. What I've been stuck on lately is upgrading to Rf-7 II's. Sell a couple subs, towers, center, rears, save some more money up and buy a pair of Rf-7II when I find a good deal. I already listen to all my music in stereo mode (2.3 ) and prefer it over multi channel. So not having a center of rears for a while won't bother me too much. So here are a few questions:

- Is my room big enough for rf-7ii's? I realize rf-82's would probably be enough, but i would rather a more signifigant upgrade coming from f30's, also I love the look of the rf-7ii's.
- I realize rf-7's would love more power, and I think emotiva amps are a good fit. (Don't try to convince me on other brands, i've done my research.) What would be a better choice, the xpa-2 or upa-2? I've heard the xpa is overkill with how sensitive the rf-7ii's are?
- Since my reciever doesn't have an out for an external amp, I would have to upgrade it too to support the emo amp? Or is there a way around this? Once again while im not afraid to save up for the right stuff I want to spend less preferably.

Thanks,
Kent

G-morning Kent,
You are 17 (18) living at home... unless you are wealthy (or run with a wealthy crowd) what you have is better than most.
If you (your parents) are wealthy then get the RF7's and the XPA along with whatever other toys you want.
If you (your parents) are not wealthy, contribute towards your education, insurance, automobile, the house payment, or anything else that needs contributing to in the household before spending money on new HiFi equipment.

Oh yes I realize what I have is better than the average, especially for my age. My parents aren't really wealthy or anything, but I am very good with money, everything I own was bought with my own money, including my car etc. I'm at a point where the essentials that you mentioned are paid off so most of the money I earn will be spending money.

Mupi...crabalocker and everyone that commented that their normal listening volume isn't anywhere close to -10 or so. What are your channel levels set at?

I have the 1912 and my normal listening volume is around -10 to 0. I can watch a movie at 0 and it's not too loud, but can get loud during certain parts. I use dynamic eq but no dynamic volume.

John, Stop me if I'm misreading, but it sounds like you might not be understanding level calibrations? channel level settings will be dependent on the effeciency of the speaker, the amp, the room, distance to listening position, etc. So knowing anyone elses settings will be useless to you. What you want to do is use the pink noise from your processor and set it so that all channels are at 75db at your listening position. You are then calibrated so that "0" on your master volume represents reference volume. During action scenes at reference volume, I can sit right next to someone and holler at them without them being able to understand me. In other words....LOUD! I typically watch at -10db, and even that is too much for most guests. You can holler at each other, but not talk during an action scene.

Over time, I've adjusted to my taste so that my side surrounds are a few db lower and my rear surrounds a few db higher...but that's personal taste.

Hope that helps some. And hope I'm not covering things you already knew.

+1, YUP! like he wrote; there is a lot of factors to everyone's environment an so on.

Do you have a SPL Meter?? If not I would advise you to get one. Great tool for setting the surround speakers etc. You may listen to music and movies at a lower volume when see just how loud -10 is. Different receivers will differ
on these #s so a Db meter keeps it real.

Tony...You're right, I wasn't even thinking about others rooms being different and other factors. It just threw me off thinking I had something wrong when I saw others saying they can hear just fine at -40 or so.

What you said right here is exactly how mine is so I think I'm good now..

I may get a SPL meter tomorrow and see what it shows when I set my receiver at -10 and 0.

Very good.
I really don't see a downside to getting the RF-7s.
The RF-7s are not really much bigger than the F30's so if you have ~4 more inches of width available you are good to go.

Tony,
Do you run auto calibration first then adjust each channel individually? I have MCACC. When you run the AC doesn't also fix the EQ for each channel?

Just purchased two RF-52ii and a RC-52ii to match. I am pretty excited. I am sure some of you might ask why the 52ii and it was because of height restrictions, money, and wife. The rears right now will be two of quintets for right now...will upgrade after the purchase of a new tv. The receiver is an onkyo 705.

My question to all is how should I break these speakers in? When they get delivered today, I plan on letting them site till tomorrow night but when i set them up, I am a little nervous on next steps. Any help would be much appreciated.

John, you can't do it without the SPL meter.

dzack, I run Audyssey first, but I always go behind it and double check with the SPL. Sometimes I bump it around based on the SPL readings.

Thanks, that's what I was doing and I also raised my level on my sub to 83db.. sounds amazing in action scenes.. I love this message board..

Why run Audyssey, which is a multi $$$ program and go behind it with a $50 Rat Shack meter? You would have to put the SPL meter mic EXACTLY in the same position you had the Audyssey mic and still then, might not get the correct reading.

I have already had this discussion with Chris and was saying the exact same thing.

Yes, I forgot to mention, Audyssey always gets my subs about 6-8db low for some reason? I put mine at about 77db, but there's no way to compare that to your 83db setting, as the frequency response on each of our subs are different. Mine climbs significantly from 30hz down to 15hz, so even thought my LFE setting appears only 2db hot, in that frequency range, I'm probably closer to 10db hot.

there was a guy selling calibrated galaxy audio spl meters on HTS a while back. This is where I purchased mine.

nezff, I agree with you in theory, but in practice, my ears agree more with the RS meter. I always prefer my system after these bumps.

As much as I hate to say it, I alway used to use a SPL meter for this same reason. I used to find Audysssey always set some of my speakers different and maybe lower than Id like.

After my lengthy discussion with Chris K. (Audyssey) I threw it out of my arsenal. Then again, Im kinda like you, I might go back to it.

Yeah, I had heard Chris say that before and tried to listen to him. However, after experimenting, I decided to employ the RS meter again. I remember one time I left the settings per Audyssey and even though it was off from the RSM, I did prefer it....then I reran Audyssey for other reasons and didn't like it. My conclusion is that Audyssey is not always consistent in my room. Could be operator error though.

That resembles: Bose is a multi $$$ speaker. Why settle for a lower $$$ speaker?

Because some of us over 60 members need the rear and/or the center turned up some. I have a mic stand that I use for the YPAO mic and the meter. I have Klipsch Cornwalls as my fronts and they tend to over power the Reference speakers (at 75 to 80 Db.) I added for my 5.2 HT system. I can adjust the center and rears with out a meter, that being said. It's also a good thing to have a meter to see just how loud you are playing Bluray movies when the special effects are going so I can hear 10 years from now.

No break in required for speakers , Rock Away !
If you have Audysssey run it 1st ...

Ok, I need some advice. I was just at Best Buy and bought two VF-36 towers, BB is clearing out this model for only $149 each. I currently have a Polk CS-10 center which I am pretty sure won't jive with the VF's. I need a new center (I will pickup Klipschs surrounds later). I

have always had a hard time hearing dialog with the Polk to where I was always turning up the volume on quiet parts of a film and having to turn it down during action scenes. I would like to get a center that matches the VF's but that also really pushes the dialog.

Also just added a Pioneer VSX-52 as well.

Thanks for any help.

Hello Klipsch owners,

I need help. Which pair of speakers should I get for fronts?


RB 61 II vs. RF 52 II


Receiver: Marantz sr6006 / Onkyo tx-nr709 / Denon avr-2312 (All the same price where I am)


Main Purpose: BluRay movies on a 5.1 system (also TV).

Secondary Purpose: Maybe video gaming in the future.... music at moderate levels (this would not be my main music area).


Size of room = basically a 12 X 12 (plus some extra space that won't affect viewing area)


Also, if you have Klipsch FLOOR-STANDING speakers and can tell me if you have them next to the walls...how do they sound? How far off the walls do you keep them? (**Spank2223... you just bought 52's... will they be on/off the walls? And how do you like them?)

Thanks to anyone that can give me suggestions regarding this choice.

I have the RB-61 II and I had them matched up with the Onkyo 707 and they sounded great. I recently upgraded to the Denon 4310 and they sound even better. They are a great set of book shelf speakers. JT

I have floorstanders. I think this smaller system might be just fine in your small room. But if you are like me, you will always be upgrading. I started 4-5 years ago with just RF62s and RC62. Here is where im at now:

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Thanks for that input...great to hear. I will probably use a Marantz sr6006 (I think) so it won't be quite as good as your Denon, but I think if I go with the 61's it will do the job.

I just received my rf-52ii last night. I have not had time to set them up. I will hopefully report back in the next few days. I am powering them by onkyo 705.