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post #18541 of 22401
any clipping will blow a speaker ,AVR clipping from not enuff power ,to Just too much power past a rated level .
The speakers coils over heat & seize on woofs , cone speakers , on compression drivers the diaphragms rupture.

And Yes a speaker/tweeter/compression driver can still make a sound & still be blown , just sounds like Crap ..
post #18542 of 22401
to isolate which component, whether it be the tweeter, one or both drivers, or some aspect of the crossover that is busted? I will have 2 replacement woofers in the mail, so if I replace one at a time, then re-test for distortion, that should do it, right? or at least isolate if I need more parts replaced. Hopefully only one woofer is blown so I can have a spare. Hahah. not that I'm planning on abusing them...but you never know.

One time my amp shut off during a scary climax moment in a scary movie, so the shutdown effect is defn. related to volume.

The eery silence made me think the Woman in Black(tm) was in my loft, screwing with me. Haha, you will die now. j/k
post #18543 of 22401
going from 2.1 to 3.1 and using my klipsch as the center speaker makes such a huge difference.

I feel dumb for not buying the third channel after all this time. Ti's true what they sayeth, the center channel giveth. (yeah, I'm watching old Game of Thrones to catch up before watching season 2 !! woot)

cant' wait to get up to 5.1 or 7.1 (I'll probably add the last two as front height or ultra wide channels). Has anyone put the dipole THX speakers in those positions? Or is direct always the way to go. My loft setup now is quite good, although I'm currently sitting in an arrangement where putting speakers directly behind be would not work. As Surrounds, sure, but I wonder about the next step from 5.1 onwards.
post #18544 of 22401
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Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE View Post

going from 2.1 to 3.1 and using my klipsch as the center speaker makes such a huge difference.

I feel dumb for not buying the third channel after all this time. Ti's true what they sayeth, the center channel giveth. (yeah, I'm watching old Game of Thrones to catch up before watching season 2 !! woot)

cant' wait to get up to 5.1 or 7.1 (I'll probably add the last two as front height or ultra wide channels). Has anyone put the dipole THX speakers in those positions? Or is direct always the way to go. My loft setup now is quite good, although I'm currently sitting in an arrangement where putting speakers directly behind be would not work. As Surrounds, sure, but I wonder about the next step from 5.1 onwards.


I prefer to have a pair of dipole or bipole speakers at the sides, then if you really want to go all out, get a pair of direct radiators for the back of the room, pointed at the main listining position. I personally do not feel the need for 7.1 or above, to me, 5.1 with dipoles at the sides is just as good.
post #18545 of 22401
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Originally Posted by RLBURNSIDE View Post

going from 2.1 to 3.1 and using my klipsch as the center speaker makes such a huge difference.

I feel dumb for not buying the third channel after all this time. Ti's true what they sayeth, the center channel giveth. (yeah, I'm watching old Game of Thrones to catch up before watching season 2 !! woot)

cant' wait to get up to 5.1 or 7.1 (I'll probably add the last two as front height or ultra wide channels). Has anyone put the dipole THX speakers in those positions? Or is direct always the way to go. My loft setup now is quite good, although I'm currently sitting in an arrangement where putting speakers directly behind be would not work. As Surrounds, sure, but I wonder about the next step from 5.1 onwards.

the difference in price & how diploes work make doing some research on how they work before you buy would be the best way to move forward . I myself like direct radiators as my surrounds (they are cheaper ie: RB81's are direct radiators) Some rooms dipoles work well & some rooms direct Rads work better , Also it's personal choice/preference as well .. Google dipoles , how they work & go from there.
post #18546 of 22401
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Originally Posted by Steve1981 View Post

Have you actually listened to a properly set up & implemented set of Ultras for any extended period of time? Or is this all based on one other guy's opinion?



Yes I have spent plenty of time listening to the entire ultra2 setup. I should retract my statement, though, in regards to the Ed system stomping the hell out of the ultra2's. Perhaps what I should have said, as tiny pointed out, is that, the Ed setup will equal the ultra2 setup, in my opinion, for much less money. Which is my main beef with the ultra2's. They didn't sound bad by any means, they hit reference with ease, they were extremely dynamic, and, gave a great overall theater experience. Was the experience worth 10 grand? In my opinion, no. I am not sure how much the ultra2 system can be had for online. Perhaps much less? I don't know. The same dealer I auditioned the ultra2's at, also had a 5.1 setup of herseys all the way around, powered by an integra 40.1. In my opinion the hersey setup did everything the ultra2 setup did, and more. You can find herseys for under 600 bucks, all day long.
post #18547 of 22401
Hello All, I'm looking for a little in-site on the SW-115. This is a huge thread and I can't seem to find any reviews. Does anyone own it and if so what are there thoughts. Not just from a standpoint of it being good for the money, but quality in general (Music and Movies). Does it have good headroom(High SPL) when needed? Does it play flat 18-22hz as stated on there site? Any input would be helpful as I'm about to purchase it or the HSU VTF-15f.

Thanks
Joe
post #18548 of 22401
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Originally Posted by Martycool007 View Post

Yes I have spent plenty of time listening to the entire ultra2 setup. I should retract my statement, though, in regards to the Ed system stomping the hell out of the ultra2's. Perhaps what I should have said, as tiny pointed out, is that, the Ed setup will equal the ultra2 setup, in my opinion, for much less money. Which is my main beef with the ultra2's. They didn't sound bad by any means, they hit reference with ease, they were extremely dynamic, and, gave a great overall theater experience. Was the experience worth 10 grand? In my opinion, no. I am not sure how much the ultra2 system can be had for online. Perhaps much less? I don't know. The same dealer I auditioned the ultra2's at, also had a 5.1 setup of herseys all the way around, powered by an integra 40.1. In my opinion the hersey setup did everything the ultra2 setup did, and more. You can find herseys for under 600 bucks, all day long.

Marty, you can call me many things....but "tiny" ain't one of them!

FYI, the U2 system can be had for half or less of msrp. And I agree with your comments regarding the Heresys.
post #18549 of 22401
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Originally Posted by PlatinumSV View Post

Hello All, I'm looking for a little in-site on the SW-115. This is a huge thread and I can't seem to find any reviews. Does anyone own it and if so what are there thoughts. Not just from a standpoint of it being good for the money, but quality in general (Music and Movies). Does it have good headroom(High SPL) when needed? Does it play flat 18-22hz as stated on there site? Any input would be helpful as I'm about to purchase it or the HSU VTF-15f.

Thanks
Joe

well I can't judge as I have never heard one but here are a few reviews & the reviewer seem to like it , but read the comments below the reviews .
Seems Klipsch was aiming @ WAF when they designed the sub IE;slot port saves size factor .
At Least Klipsch is finally putting in some effort to improve their horrible subs(@ least when compared to the most of the rest of the Sub Web Direct market )

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...sch-sw-115-pre

http://www.beststuff.com/blog/2011/1...te-sw-115.html
post #18550 of 22401
I can tell you right now without running any specs that the only way that sub is -3db at 18 hz is if it was measured indoors in a corner and with a boost at the lower frequencies. The port just flat out could not be tuned to 18 or even 20 hz in that size enclosure without have A TON of airflow from that port, which would more than likely cause audible chuffing. Not saying it won't be a decent sub, but that it would need some "help" to achieve the quoted figures. I'll try later to get on winisd and try to do a mock model to see what comes up, but I know from experience building subs that you need a pretty large port in width and length to accommodate a near flat response at 18 hz and minimize air flow.
post #18551 of 22401
perfectly happy with my cheapo sub (I still did research on it before buying). IMO It's a lot less important to spend extravagant money on the sub than on the mains

__ <-- that's me ducking from the AVS sub guys' wrath. hehe

I've finally decided, for my other channels, I'm going to buy ID, maybe some kind of planar speakers or ribbon tweeters. who knows. I like to experiment.

As long as my front 3 THX speakers and power amp channels are identical, that's good enough for me.
post #18552 of 22401
i have klipsch thx 2 ultra set with krell power amps i want upgrade the speaker what will u advise bw,monitor audio,dali any advise will better klipsch thx 2 ultra set i just use them in cinema
post #18553 of 22401
For cinema I would probably say none of the ones you listed. For movies only the klipsch are pretty difficult to beat. You could try to move to the heritage line. I believe tony123 had the thx ultra series but now has la scalas and heresys.
post #18554 of 22401
Okay here's question.

I am the only person listening to my HT and my seating postion is dead center of the tv with my towers towed in towards me.

My surround or back speakers will be about 5 feet off the ground and on the wall right behind me about 3 feet from my head on either side.

Since there is nobody on the left or right of me do I really need a speaker like the RS-52ii or can I get the same sound from a pair of RB-61ii's?

Do the "Surrounds" produce a sound that the "Bookshelf" speakers can't?

I was planning on putting a swivel mount on the wall so that I can turn the speakers inward toward my seating position to match the towers.



Thanks for reading and any responses

Rustolem
post #18555 of 22401
I like the direct radiators in what RB61's would do in that set-up of yours .
having them aimed is even better
post #18556 of 22401
Looking for a liitle advice from you guys. I am suffering from upgradeitis and looking at a few options. My room is small at around 800cu/ft. This room will be for movies only. There are three deals local to me that i am interested in. A set of kg5.2's for $350, a set of rf-711's and an rc6411 center for $2k, or some la scallas for around1400. I am also open to finding some heresy's for a good price new or used also. I will be running them with a pioneer sc-07 for now, maybe changing that to use a preamp with external amps later.
post #18557 of 22401
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Originally Posted by fast00 View Post

Looking for a liitle advice from you guys. I am suffering from upgradeitis and looking at a few options. My room is small at around 800cu/ft. This room will be for movies only. There are three deals local to me that i am interested in. A set of kg5.2's for $350, a set of rf-711's and an rc6411 center for $2k, or some la scallas for around1400. I am also open to finding some heresy's for a good price new or used also. I will be running them with a pioneer sc-07 for now, maybe changing that to use a preamp with external amps later.

If you have the 2' square of space available in each front corner of your room for la scalas then they're the obvious choice at that price. 'otherwise you should go with the RF7ii setup, that's another really good price.
post #18558 of 22401
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Originally Posted by fast00 View Post

Looking for a liitle advice from you guys. I am suffering from upgradeitis and looking at a few options. My room is small at around 800cu/ft. This room will be for movies only. There are three deals local to me that i am interested in. A set of kg5.2's for $350, a set of rf-711's and an rc6411 center for $2k, or some la scallas for around1400. I am also open to finding some heresy's for a good price new or used also. I will be running them with a pioneer sc-07 for now, maybe changing that to use a preamp with external amps later.


I personally believe that a La Scalla setup would be hard to beat. You can get all of the dynamics of the RF-7ii, but, you will experience improved clarity, imaging and sound stage. The only downside is that the La Scalla's do not go down very low and would definitely require a good sub. Pick up a Hersey for the center channel and a good sub, (ie svs, hsu, ed, ect..) and eventually a pair of Hersey's for the rears and you will have a world class setup! Man, just sitting here thinking of that system has got me thinking about purchasing a pair of La Scalla's! I absolutely love my current speakers, (I have like 6 pairs, lol) but, if I came accross a good deal on a pair of La Scalla's, (or even a pair of Cornwalls or Herseys) I might just purchase a pair!
post #18559 of 22401
Thanks for the advice! I just got an outlaw ex, so the sub is covered. Might be a tight fit with the La Scalla set up, but i've been wanting some for awhile now. I will need to be on the look out for a single heresy for a center. Any other center recomendations, just in case it would take awhile to find a set/single heresy?
post #18560 of 22401
Fast, did you mean 800sf? If cf, then the room is like 10x10X8 ? LS in that room would be a bit insane.

BTW, that price is fairly steep.
post #18561 of 22401
The room is 11x10.5x8. Yes i think it might be a little much for that room. I would still do it if it's not too much, just in case i want them in another room later. What price should i look to pay? I found a pair about three hours from my house for 1k, but the guy seemed a little sketchy.
post #18562 of 22401
If thinking ahead to a larger room, I could see squeezing the LS in there for temporary. They are the best option with a larger room.

I drove 3 hours for a $1k pair. The range is broad. From $400 to $1500 depending on condition. Most folks probably pay about $800-$1k.

My room is 6000cf, and the LS can overwhelm it! Quite impressive.

Sounds like you won't mind a room where one or two folks are wedged between equipment.
post #18563 of 22401
Tony is right that's a great price , those LS will blow the 7II's outta the water , hands down a way better speaker .
Plus the LS's are easy to maintain by retro fitting as well . as for a center there are custom options(if you are handy with wood there are self built centers that match the LS voicing ), plus you can add a Hersey or a Cornwall
post #18564 of 22401
I am moving my current setup into that room, but will need to get a 2 channel setup for my living room. I might just get the la scallas for the living room(6000cft), and eventually change my other speakers later. Any suggestions for the small room? Would a heresy lcr be too much speaker for that room also?
post #18565 of 22401
No, it wouldn't at all.
post #18566 of 22401
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Originally Posted by fast00 View Post

Looking for a liitle advice from you guys. I am suffering from upgradeitis and looking at a few options. My room is small at around 800cu/ft. This room will be for movies only. There are three deals local to me that i am interested in. A set of kg5.2's for $350, a set of rf-711's and an rc6411 center for $2k, or some la scallas for around1400. I am also open to finding some heresy's for a good price new or used also. I will be running them with a pioneer sc-07 for now, maybe changing that to use a preamp with external amps later.

Wow where are you getting the LSs for 1400.00- I won't buy them I promise
post #18567 of 22401
A guy I work with is selling them. Sad thing is he bought them for $400 .
The other guy that is selling the pair for 1K got 3 pair for free! Why cant i ever come across deals like that?
post #18568 of 22401
Sounds like you and me have the same luck sometimes....none
post #18569 of 22401
Need some advice. I'm using a pair of Athena SCT S3s for L/R, but my center & rears don't match. I am considering upgrading the whole thing. i want to stick with bookshelf speakers. My listening is about 75% movies, 25% music.

living room is 10 x 14 x 8, carpeted. Open to the kitchen/dinette that has a ceramic tile floor.
Equipment I want keep includes a Parasound HCA1000 (110 watts/channel) for the mains, Yamaha 965 AVR powers the center & rears.
Velodyne CT 100 sub (10 inch front firing 100 watt)
20" sand filled stands

Klipsch is on my list of brands to audition. Would the RB 61s on the 20" stands with the matching center be enough for this room? The RB 81 is quite a bit more $ so I don't if I could justify that.
Would my existing sub be able to keep with the 61s?
Does anyone use the Synergy surrounds with the Reference fronts?

Thanks for the help.
post #18570 of 22401
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

Sounds like you and me have the same luck sometimes....none

My bad luck runs even deeper, I would get that awesome deal then 2 days later the cops would show up telling me I had bought STOLEN merchandise !!!!
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