Klipsch owner thread - Page 626

I don't think I am the most knowledgable person here but I have the crossover at 80 to my Rythmik sub. I know the speakers can go lower but the sub can do it better and it will take strain off of the speakers.

I really don't know about the speaker placement. The first room I had them in was seemingly poor placement in a corner on either side of a plasma and near to the walls but somehow it sounded great.

The second room was 15x30 with some furnishings and sounded even better than the first. I was especially impressed with the soundstage and separation.

The third room is where my HT will be and it is 15x21x8 with carpet and no furnishings at the moment. It sounds different in there and not in a good way.

I have read general guidelines for speaker placement and they usually state that it is a good idea to place the speakers a few feet from any boundaries. There are exceptions to this and it is beyond me as to why. I need to do some experimenting. The room is bare and way too live. I am sure there are people in this thread that can chime in on recommendations for Klipsch speaker placement and share their own experience. I would like to know as well.

Ok thanks. Sounds reasonable. I'll see what my receiver calibration software says it should be too.


I'm kind of limited on what I can do with speaker placement in my room but things like distance from the wall and toe-in are possible adjustments. We'll see what we hear and how my particular setup sounds. Thanks!

I will add that my best results so far in my second room I had the speakers about 1.5-2 feet away from the side and back walls. The main LP was 12 ft from the speakers and they were approx 25 degrees from the main LP. Both speakers with a good amount of toe in so that they are almost pointed directly at the main LP.

The equipment used was Harman Kardon AVR 3600, Emotiva XPA-5, and PS3. With my Rythmik F12SE which is underpowered next to these monsters. I have the sub pretty hot and I still want more.

I ran the room correction EQ that comes with my HK AVR3600 in the second room. It is proprietary and is called EZEQ. I suspect it is inferior to Audessey but not sure. I have not run EZEQ in my current room so lots of variables at play.

Your running a XPA-5 then you have enough power to set the cross-over at what audyssey or any room correction software , will set the speakers for.
setting @ 80 is not always the best way to set-up a system when you have extra headroom power that a external amp provides .
The reason most say set 80 is to take the lower frequencies & transfer them to a sub is the sub has it's own power .
You have extra power in a XPA-5 .That extra power will allow the woofers in all the speakers add more bass dynamics into your room. The sub will still play those lower frequencies as well as the speakers will too & THAT adds much more dynamics into the room .

My setup has the Mains , Surrounds set @ 40 & the Center ,Heights,Wides set as 50 . just above what each set of speaker starts to "roll off @ " Roll off is the point where the woofer start to lose the lower frequencies due to not being able to produce them . mine spec @ 30 & 40 , so they are set to 40 & 50 the roll off point is usually 10 above what the speaker is rated for .


By setting @ 80 you taking all the balls outta your 83's & that is what the 83's are good at that.....
they have good clean punch, clean well defined mid bass response in the woofer section.

FastSlappy,

Do you have the RF-83's as well? What sub are you using? What amp? Any thoughts on the speaker placement?

I have CornScala & CS-1.5's (Herisey clones ) they have 15" & 12" woofers , I use a Emo UPA-7 & a UPA-2 , I run 9 channels heights & wides ,no rears
83's should be away from walls due to them being rear ported , toed in & near corners (but a good 1 to 2 feet away from any wall )
I have dual SVS PC12-NSD's .
movies @ my house are simply amazing , the dynamics are stunning ..

NICE System

thanx

to further break down the system is 4 CornScala's mains & surrounds , 5 CS-1.5's Center, heights,wides... onkyo TX-NR1009 & a TX-NR5008 that is being repaired & then sold , @ that point a AVR will be purchased to replace the 5008 & the 1009 goes to the bedroom to replace a TX-NR807 .
I love the Onkyo Video processors in the XXX009 & up line , beats the heck outta the XX008 line
I'm done with speakers now I have my lifetime set ...

it would be cool to have the CS-1 available in a KPT surround format...

Thinking about klispchorns but one "corner" of the room is open. bad idea?

mine are custom horizontal's that hang from the ceiling CS-1.5 are bigger thou .. I've got them down right now but will have back in better positions soon . I post Pix when I get them back up ..

ha hey wrote klipschorn , and slapmehappy define "clones"...be about time for some picssss......

You'd have to either close off the back on that one, or do some sort of false corner. I had one butted up against a thick IKEA table top once, which another piece of furniture to hold the table top in place. But there are ways of holding something like that in place. More importantly, maybe, is the size of the room and the spacing between the speakers.

here's the lastest Dope on the CS-1 & the CS-1.5
And now Bob is making a center as well

http://www.critesspeakers.com/crites...r-project.html

Fastslappy,

I would love to see some pictures of all of the speakers and the room. I am considering a DIY sub solution right now but going DIY for speakers is a little bolder. I don't have the woodworking skills. Hopefully I can successfully integrate the RF-83's in my room. If not then anything is possible I guess...even DIY.

A few months ago I purchased a pair of RF-52 IIs. They are located in a large great room with wood floors on the first floor of the house. I really like the way they sound.

I am looking to upgrade my 5.1 setup in the basement and am curious if that sound would be severely affected by placing a pair of RF-82 IIs or RF-7 IIs on carpet over concrete...

Thoughts?

TIA.

The wood working part is now do-able as Bob Crities now has a CNC router & he can whip up the pre cut cabinets or sell you assembled speakers ..
compare those prices he's listing for those models CS-1.5's & CornScala's they are 1/3 of the price of any new Heritage speaker AND they have a much better SQ to boot .
he's taken the Klipsch idea & taken it to a much higher level thru really high quality drivers .. I'm very happy with mine & I've had Klipsch Heritage speakers since 1973 . The old 73's are modded into CornScala & my satillites are horizontal CS-1.5's

here's a few pix on the PC ...............

I just ordered my Klipsch RB-61 II speaker system to replace my old Bose V20 system. The center speaker weighs 22 lbs. so I will need something hefty to mount it to the wall. The point where the speaker will be mounted will be hollow drywall so I will need good wall anchors. That doesn't scare me so long as I can get a decent mounting rack or shelf.

Can anyone here recommend either a mount or shelf for this speaker? Suggestions for the floor stands for the rear surround speakers (RS-42 II) would be appreciated as well.

Thanks

They're in! Tweaking still underway but I love them so far. Pic below:



Link: http://flic.kr/p/bRAjC6

Very nice picture!

Nice...How's it sound ???

Thank you!

They sound very, very nice and a big improvement from my previous speakers (whcih are now in the surround position). Just a bit of tweaking (isn't there always?) I ran YPAO and it sounds very good. YPAO made them 'big' and set the crossover at 80. I think I may try setting them to small and seeing what that sounds like too.

They seem to fill the room (20x20) much better than my previous speakers. Bass is tighter and highs are very clear. My wife is having fun learning the real words to a lot of songs now

Some really nice subs would really compliment that setup. Very nice speakers.

Take a peice of 3/8-1/2 plywood, cut it slightly smaller than the back of the Speaker, find your studs and screw it to them. Then mount your speaker to the plywood. Paint the sides of the plywood black if your worried about someone seeing them.

If the speaker is over hollow drywall, then surely a piece of plywood smaller than the speaker will also be over hollow drywall?

I'd be tempted to open up the wall between two joists, screw in some support 2x4 horizontally between then, cover up with drywall, plaster, prime, paint.

this is the best way to do it studs are on 16" centers meaning it is 16" from each center of a stud to the next , if a slight downward tilt is needed that can be done with small blocks of wood ,a chain .. what ever if you need advice on tilting report back

Sorry but just like the 2 people after me posted, this is how you do it, the plywood hits the studs so your speaker does not have to. No wall is hollow for more than 24", most should not be over 16".

Your way, opening up the wall, is absolutley ridiculous, just saying.

If you would know, or even speculate, how would the CS-1.5's compare to the ED Cinema 12's? The Cinemas have gotten positive feedback and would be cheaper with a lcr setup than the CS-1.5, and they are finished. Thanks.