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post #19351 of 35434
^^^good
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Originally Posted by brian6751 View Post

How are the rb-81' s and rb-61's with music using a sub?


I have the RB-61IIs and they sound very good with music.
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I have the 61s and sw112 they sound great with music! But i have caught a case of the upgrades so I'm looking to get some 81s
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Originally Posted by e84cooper View Post

I have the 61s and sw112 they sound great with music! But i have caught a case of the upgrades so I'm looking to get some 81s

what is it your looking to gain by going to the 81's? what are the 61's lacking for you?
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I have the 61s and sw112 they sound great with music! But i have caught a case of the upgrades so I'm looking to get some 81s

I ready dont know! Bigger is always better i guess!
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Originally Posted by e84cooper View Post

I have the 61s and sw112 they sound great with music! But i have caught a case of the upgrades so I'm looking to get some 81s
I ready dont know! Bigger is always better i guess!

I like the Rererence series bookshelf speakers just fine and each model up adds more presense to the sound.
If you can listen to the 61's and 81's side by side and think the 81's are worth the price go for it.
But incremental upgrading is the most expensive route and gives you the least amount of wow factor with each step.
If you are adding the 81's to get a 4.1 channel system I think that is a great idea, if the 81's are just to replace the 61's I would not really be interested in doing that for myself.
I would stick with the RB-61's and keep saving for the leap to RF-82's.
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Originally Posted by chashint View Post

I like the Rererence series bookshelf speakers just fine and each model up adds more presense to the sound.
If you can listen to the 61's and 81's side by side and think the 81's are worth the price go for it.
But incremental upgrading is the most expensive route and gives you the least amount of wow factor with each step.
If you are adding the 81's to get a 4.1 channel system I think that is a great idea, if the 81's are just to replace the 61's I would not really be interested in doing that for myself.
I would stick with the RB-61's and keep saving for the leap to RF-82's.

My wife is not signing on for the RF 82! I'm planning on the
Fronts Rb 81
Center Rc 52
Rears Rb 61
Sub sw112
Sr5006
Mm7025
post #19358 of 35434
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Originally Posted by e84cooper View Post

My wife is not signing on for the RF 82!

try and shop used... you'll get a great deal on 82's. I seem to see them all the time locally on craigslist or for nice deals on eBay
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Originally Posted by e84cooper View Post

My wife is not signing on for the RF 82! I'm planning on the
Fronts Rb 81
Center Rc 52
Rears Rb 61
Sub sw112
Sr5006
Mm7025
I like that plan,you will have a very nice system.
post #19360 of 35434
Its not money its she doesn't want tower speakers in the living room! I'm a newlyweds its a fight
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Originally Posted by e84cooper View Post

Its not money its she doesn't want tower speakers in the living room! I'm a newlyweds its a fight
stand up & make a point cause if you cave on this then she will expect you to give in on everything ...It's your living room as well rolleyes.gif
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When your right your right! I just need to find a klipsch set we can agree on! She likes the look of the bowers and Wilkins 684 but not the rf 62 or rf 82
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Originally Posted by e84cooper View Post

When your right your right! I just need to find a klipsch set we can agree on! She likes the look of the bowers and Wilkins 684 but not the rf 62 or rf 82
Well it really makes no sense to me that she likes the looks of the B&W's but not the Klipsch.
If she likes the sound of the B&W better then that is a different story.
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It makes no sense she likes the klipsch sound but like the looks of those speakers! Im going to keep working on her ill get them one day!
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

stand up & make a point cause if you cave on this then she will expect you to give in on everything ...It's your living room as well rolleyes.gif

Could be his space is too small. I live in an condo right now 815 sq feet, wife says no big speakers. But moving in to a townhouse soon, probably around 1800 sq ft, and pretty much can get whatever I want.

I don't mind my condo being cramped, but can totally understand where my wife is coming from. But yea, if he is living in a big house, then maybe should make a stand.

Nevermind, guess his wife just cares about looks. My wife hates the look of bookshelves on stands.
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Im in a condo! 1100 sq! Fourth floor.
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Originally Posted by e84cooper View Post

My wife is not signing on for the RF 82! I'm planning on the
Fronts Rb 81
Center Rc 52
Rears Rb 61
Sub sw112
Sr5006
Mm7025
If you are going with 81s in the front, you should go for the RC-62 for the center. It's the Klipsch 'recommended' match.
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Originally Posted by csgamer View Post

Could be his space is too small. I live in an condo right now 815 sq feet, wife says no big speakers. But moving in to a townhouse soon, probably around 1800 sq ft, and pretty much can get whatever I want.
I don't mind my condo being cramped, but can totally understand where my wife is coming from. But yea, if he is living in a big house, then maybe should make a stand.
Nevermind, guess his wife just cares about looks. My wife hates the look of bookshelves on stands.

Klipschorns in the corners will take up less "room space" (usable floor space) than a pair of 8" wide towers pulled out from the walls.

wink.gif
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The plan is to pickup a rc 62 in nov as a gift from my wife!
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Since money is not the holdup I would recommend the RC62 also, it is worth the price (IMO). Make sure it will fit where it needs to go.
I like the tower speakers but a system of 81's and 61's as the fronts and rears is still a very nice system and will easily fill any room in a 1100 sq ft condo with sound.
Once you have all the speakers the subwoofer will easily be the weak link of the system, but considering being neighborly is part of apartment living you are probably better off with the SW112 than a sub that will hit lower anyway.
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Originally Posted by coytee View Post

Klipschorns in the corners will take up less "room space" (usable floor space) than a pair of 8" wide towers pulled out from the walls.
wink.gif
If you can really sell that you are indeed the king of all sales !!!!! biggrin.gif
post #19372 of 35434
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Originally Posted by Martycool007 View Post

If I was to go with the La Scala's, I would, a) buy an older pair and rebuild them, and b) use 3 across the front. The big issue would most likely be convincing the misses to let me do that.

I agree with going the used LaScala route, if you have the space to accommodate them.

I can't comment on comparison to RF-7II, but can relative to RF-83.
I was very happy with my RF-83 and still use the system in my dedicated HT - wonderful speaker with great dynamics.
I bought the used LaScalas for my music system an you can see what I did to rebuild them in post 18810.
The LaScalas are paired with a rebuilt M&K MX-150, with new drivers and a new 500 watt amp, to provide the low end. I am using Behringer active crossover with delay to compensate for the bass bin delay.

The sound from this set up is an order of magnitude improvement over the RF-83s for music. The mirange is significantly clearer and bass a bit tighter. I have spent significantly more time listening to music since I got my rebuilt LaScala system running.

I am sure they woul be just as amazing for HT.
Down the road I may switch my HT to LaScalas. However, in that application, I am still more tha happy with my RF-83 system (RF-83, RC-64, RS-62)
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I am looking to buy a surround speakers. I recently upgraded my speakers from Onkyo 7.1 speaker system to 2 front and Center channel speakers all Klipsch. I got Klipsch RC-42 ll center and 2 RF-42 ll Floorstanding speakers. I still have Onkyo surround and surround back speakers. I am eventually going to replace all. I was at Frys electronics today where I bought the Klipsch speakers and looked to get Klipsch RB-41 ll bookshelf speakers and they were out. So looking around for alternative and came upon JBL ES20BK Bookshelf speakers which was priced less than the Klipsch. So now I have a dilema. Should I get JBL speakers or wait for Frys to restock the Klipsch and get that? Which speaker is better?
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Originally Posted by Dionyz View Post

The LaScalas are paired with a rebuilt M&K MX-150, with new drivers and a new 500 watt amp, to provide the low end. I am using Behringer active crossover with delay to compensate for the bass bin delay.

For kicks & grins, (and if your active has an open PEQ) you might try a PEQ with the following:

Hz: 148
Q: 8
Level: -7db's

I think this is the one that Roy (Delgado at Klipsch) put into the actively crossed JubeScala to help tame the sidewalls from resonating.

I'd be interested to know if you try it and can tell a difference.
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Originally Posted by e84cooper View Post

When your right your right! I just need to find a klipsch set we can agree on! She likes the look of the bowers and Wilkins 684 but not the rf 62 or rf 82

Now is the time to show her who wears the pants. No B&W.
Of course there may be no need to remove your pants is she doesn't like your attitude.smile.gif
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Originally Posted by coytee View Post

For kicks & grins, (and if your active has an open PEQ) you might try a PEQ with the following:
Hz: 148
Q: 8
Level: -7db's
I think this is the one that Roy (Delgado at Klipsch) put into the actively crossed JubeScala to help tame the sidewalls from resonating.
I'd be interested to know if you try it and can tell a difference.

If you look at my rebuild post #18810, you can see that I reinforced the base bin by adding 1/4" MDF layer to all sides (now 1' walls instead of 3/4" - like LaScala II).
Additionally, I also added braces into the openings (which you can't see as the grilles are covering them).
This has tamed the resonance as far as I can tell.
The cabinet is rock solid, with almost no perceivable vibration when I put my hand on the bass bin.

However, I will take a look at trying your suggestion and will let you know.
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Originally Posted by Dionyz View Post

I agree with going the used LaScala route, if you have the space to accommodate them.
I can't comment on comparison to RF-7II, but can relative to RF-83.
I was very happy with my RF-83 and still use the system in my dedicated HT - wonderful speaker with great dynamics.
I bought the used LaScalas for my music system an you can see what I did to rebuild them in post 18810.
The LaScalas are paired with a rebuilt M&K MX-150, with new drivers and a new 500 watt amp, to provide the low end. I am using Behringer active crossover with delay to compensate for the bass bin delay.
The sound from this set up is an order of magnitude improvement over the RF-83s for music. The mirange is significantly clearer and bass a bit tighter. I have spent significantly more time listening to music since I got my rebuilt LaScala system running.
I am sure they woul be just as amazing for HT.
Down the road I may switch my HT to LaScalas. However, in that application, I am still more tha happy with my RF-83 system (RF-83, RC-64, RS-62)

Wow that sounds like a bad a** setup you have with the La Scala's. I am a bit confused though and was hoping you could clear this up....Are you using the M&K MX-150 subwoofer, as in the complete subwoofer, ie box and everything? Or are you using the MX--150 drivers in the La Scala bass bin and using an active crossover system to make it jive with the mids and tweets? Can you post a link to your post in reference to the drivers that you used?
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Originally Posted by Martycool007 View Post

Wow that sounds like a bad a** setup you have with the La Scala's. I am a bit confused though and was hoping you could clear this up....Are you using the M&K MX-150 subwoofer, as in the complete subwoofer, ie box and everything? Or are you using the MX--150 drivers in the La Scala bass bin and using an active crossover system to make it jive with the mids and tweets? Can you post a link to your post in reference to the drivers that you used?

The MX-150 is used as a sub to complement LaScala below 50Hz (I replaced the drivers with Electro Mavin [http://www.mavin.com/store.php/products/12-woofer-8-ohms-drop-in-replacement-for-mandk-miller-and-kreisel-subs] as the surrounds were starting to tear and put in a 500 watt O-Audio amp [www.oaudio.com] to give it more omph and tighten the bass). The modified MX-150 has a very tight bass, which blends very well with the bass bin

Behringer handles the active crossover, splitting the signal between the sub, bass bin and top bin (crossover from mid to tweeter is handled by Crites crossover).
I am definitely using the bass bin and it is with the original driver.
The mid is also using the original driver and k-400 horn (by separating the top from the bass bin and using acoustic tape between the bass bin and top, I reduce the vibrations being passed to the k-400 horn.
With my set-up, I am not perceiving honkines in the k-400 that some people mention.
I replaced the tweeter with Crites tweeter to get better top end extention.
However, instead of Crited horn, I am using Faital Pro STH100 Traxtric horn for more even dispersion (that is why I had to make the top taller. The motor board is removable so that I can change to different horns in the future if I desire).
The bass bin is driven by Denon POA-5000 and top by Yaqin MC-100 tube amp.

I am extermely pleased with the sound.

Even though it took me a while to do the LaScala rebuild (as I had zero woodworking experience - just need time and patience to measure and cut accurately), I would not hesitate to do this project again (see post 18810). I am very satisfied with how the speakers turned out both cosmetically and acoustically.

Hope this helps and inspires other to try a used LaScala rebuild.
Results are definitely worth it.
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OK I've been @ home listening to what i have now! I also listened what someone was saying about marginal upgrades so would the rc 62 be the better upgrade if like the way the rb 61 sound in stereo?

Front setup
Rb 61
Rc 52
Sw112
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Originally Posted by e84cooper View Post

OK I've been @ home listening to what i have now! I also listened what someone was saying about marginal upgrades so would the rc 62 be the better upgrade if like the way the rb 61 sound in stereo?
Front setup
Rb 61
Rc 52
Sw112
Yeah it would really noticeable in Movies & TV watching .. more impact & easier to understand vocals ..
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