Klipsch owner thread - Page 657

I think I have slowed down some on wanting the Ultra2's and wait until I can get a second sub along with putting my system in my new home(sometime in the next 6 months). If I can find a good buy on a single RF-7, I might go that route too... When you talk to Klipsch and they basically tell you that the difference is minimal, that is a good sign to stay put for the time being...lol

Check out Acoustic Sound Design as Mike has killer B-Stock in RF-7 IIs that are perfect in every way. The veneer was not a match to their color charts so Klipsch sent them to Mike as B-Stock when there's nothing "B" about them. If he'll break up a pair, I'm sure you can get one delivered for under $1k.

Really? That's a huge difference!

Mime have stated 104 dB sensitivity and that looks pretty accurate based on my SPL meter. Don't need 200W amps to reach Reference!

+1 I auditioned the THX Ultra 2 line on 3 different occasions and actually hoped they would be better than my RF-7/RC-7, but felt if anything, they would be a lateral move if crossed over at 80 Hz and used with a sub.

Fwiw, I found crossing my RF-7s at 60 Hz and sending everything under that to my dual RSW subs the best scenerio for my small Klipsch Home Theater.

If you can fit the 3rd 7ii that’s what I would do (if I had to have matching 3) but to me the 64ii sounds pretty good also.

IIRC the KG line was a killer speaker 5.5's were amazing but Klipsch did have QC issue with cabinets on them . after afew builds & rebuilds I find good bracing is a Good Thing for sure ..

Hey Fastslappy, did you get my last pm?

Out of respect to whom I heard this from, I'll not say whom and yes, I was quite taken back at the candor of this news as trust me, it's not information I am quick to want to post.

An aside, one may be getting the stated SPL reading you're posting about but what's the volt/watt rating your amplifier is putting out when at listening position? Not being flip, one can easily reach reference level (85dB) with an at listening position, speaker sensitivity of 86dB. It's the rest of the reference level requirement that's going test the veracity of one's amplifier/speaker specification. And reducing one's speaker sensitivity from 100dB 1w/m to 86dB at listening position, in my not so humble opinion, qualifies as being ultra conservative.

My comment was intended to address issues regarding manufacture's stated sensitivity of speakers in an enclosed anechoic chamber vs real world listening position sensitivity complete with high ceilings, contemporary open space construction, WAF and speaker sensitivity at a listening position, twelve feet from the speakers. Forgive me if I failed to put this point across. I do try.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 8/14/12 at 7:38am

I have another quick question regarding my setup. Originally I was going to purchase two RF-82 ii's, one RC-62 ii, and two RS-52 ii's. But my question is since I will not be installing the rear surrounds, RS-52 ii permanently just yet, so they will be placed on stands and not the wall. Is it best to go with the bookshelf speakers instead, like RB-51? I am asking this because I was told by someone that those rear surrounds, RS-52 ii are really meant to be placed on the wall for their full experience.

I really like the RS-52 ii over the bookshelf speakers, but wanted to hear from those with experience if it really was going to make a difference which of those two speakers i purchased for my rear surrounds.

Thanks again for any input!

TVMan1414

My recommendation is to suffer any ill will of not immediately mounting the RS-52 II's on the wall and when the time comes, hang them on the wall as opposed to, what it sounds like, buying twice.

So do you think I will still get a good performance from the RS-52 ii even though it will be on a stand? I plan to hopefully install on a wall but it may be a year or two out. If the bookshelf speaker would be a better option I could purchase it for now. I am looking for which speaker is going to give me the best performance in general.

Thanks again for the input!

TVMan1414

My attitude is buy once. If the sound quality suffers, unless made of money, so what. Even going with three fronts and a sub, later adding surrounds and another sub is better than buying down so you can say you have. A quality front three speaker setup with a pair of subs is "VERY" engaging. Don't let anybody kid or fool you. My recommendation is, buy the best you can afford today and deal with the problem details tomorrow. If you have to mount the speakers on an old pile of "STAR" magazines, that's better than spending the money on speaker stands you're going eventually get rid of.

I don't know that it's remotely possible for me to agree with this more.  Heck, I've been using TWO speakers, no sub for decades and been tickled pink.  I finally have two subs on their way to me now so I'm excited about that.  I do not feel the absolute 'need' for them though.  I can shake the walls as it is.  I just wanna shake the walls even more!

 

I bought my LaScalas in 1979 and they are STILL in use so their cost per year (or decade) is very easy on the wallet.

 

I always try to suggest starting at the TOP and work your way down to what you want/need.  So many people seem to start at the bottom and have to claw their way up to something they find acceptable.  I don't get it.  Then again, my wife shakes her head at the way I think sometimes.

Wow!


Only sometimes?

Add a center channel (RC-64 II) coupled with those subs you have on order and you'll find yourself just standing there in awe of the engaging nature of what you're hearing.

Pure, clean sound with not a trace of distraction in the sound quality. Add in Audyssey's room analyzer and if not already, one will find themselves in audio heaven.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 8/14/12 at 4:38pm

Just recently joined the Klipsch team. Picked up a set of RF3ii towers and then added the RC3ii and RS3ii to round out my 5 channels. Sounds amazing. I used to think Klipsch sounded bright but I had only heard them in demo rooms in audio shops. Now that I've heard them in my living room, I'm definitely a believer now.

 

RC64...  no disrespect meant...

 

My center channel will be my smallest speaker...  a LaScala.  The setup I'll have when I move everything back to the house will be a pair of Jubilee's as front left/right, JubeScala (LaScala bass bin, probably the 2" K510 HF horn setup as 2-way) and my original (1979) LaScalas as my rears with the two Danley DTS 10 subwoofers doing the shake the walls thing.

 

 

Here's a picture of something I posted elsewhere (for all I know  I've posted it here as well)  Either way...  some of the parts I have, but not all the parts I have.  I put this together outside to crank some tunes up while sanding/staining the front deck.  I had it configured to my active crossover where I could swap from the double bass bin only, mated with the LaScala only, as a 3-way speaker (crossed around 80hz).  OR, at a push of a button, I could have the double bass bins mated with the WOOFER only of the LaScala (as a midbass unit) mated with the large K402 on top, also as a 3-way, OR, at another push of the buttons, I could have the double bass bins mated with the top K402 horn as a 2-way.  Was fun.

 

 

Yeah... That's not going to work...

I'm guessing that rates pretty low on the WAF-O-Meter.

Another instance of BeeMan clearly not knowing what he's talking about ..............
Seriously telling a guy with a set Hertiage Speakers , a pair of Jub' s at that ! to add a RC64 II
ROLMFAO
I quoted that statement so he can't change it like he done before & then claim he never said it .... L O L

BeeMan he runs actives, do know actives means ? cause if you did you not say anything about Audyssey at all .

Yes, that's exactly what I did. No, I don't know what the individual has for speakers and I've not changed anything. I do my best to edit for the purpose of accurately reflecting my thoughts and will continue to do so,

Forgive me. I forget that sometimes, in conversations of this type, rational has left the room.

Me, based on your conversation, when you posted; "Heck, I've been using TWO speakers, no sub for decades..." I'm thinking you have a pair of La Scala's in your lvrm and that is all.

When I converse, right or wrong, my assumption is, I'm dealing with lvrm, televisions and normal sound systems.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 8/14/12 at 6:47pm

I wouldn't put the 64 with LaScalas either. And didn't.

Coytee, keep us all posted on your journey with the DTS10's. They can be a challenge to get dialed in. I spent a year with mine before I was impressed. But once it was right, it was really right! When do you take delivery?

there's Klipsch Normal & then there a bunch of us Klipsch people with real horns ... L O L ...



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my new horn is being born ....

 

Perhaps...

Klipsch 7.1
F-3s for fronts
C-2 center
S-3's for 4 surrounds
Sub-12 for sub

Looking to expand to 9.1 need suggestions for front highs
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You're good by me.  I've had my LaScalas as my "mains" since 1979.  I don't always give all the details as I tend to blather on..

 

I have since replaced them as my main speakers with Khorns which then were summarily replaced as main speakers by my Jubilee's.  If my room were bigger, the Jubilee's would have been replaced with the MWM bass bins however, I think my room might not handle that. (frankly, I'm not 100% sure about that yet so they still might)

 

Here's a picture of what my 2-channel system has been since 2006.  Just had my 6th year anniversary of ownership a week or so ago.  That is a 50" Sony in between them to give some sense of scale.

 

This image nearly brought a tear to my wife (in a negative way) with these "plug ugly" monsters in 'her' living room...  but, for the sake of carrying the torch of mankind, fighting back for activities and enjoyments that belong to the male half of the species...  I was relentless...taking one on the chin for my fellow mankind.

 

 

 

He's on vacation for this next week, then they'll be put on a pallat & shipped.

 

Here's a question for you, or anyone who might know. 

 

Preface:  I'll probalby only use one of them here since I'm currently working in FL and staying in this apartment. (yes, I have the MWM's, LaScala, Jubilee's and two DTS 10's all stuffed in here although the MWM's are sitting in my 2'nd bedroom as storage.

 

Anyways...  I'll have two EV Dx38 active crossovers and currently NO HT unit.  That's down the road as I figure out which one I want to get...  it has to have XLR outputs.

 

So right now it's only stereo so, how do I integrate the Danley's?

 

I can put a Dx38 onto EACH channel.  Each Dx38 is a 2-in, 4 out processor.  I have two of them so by putting one on each channel, I can have up to 4 channels of amplification.  I can simply add an amp and connect the 3'rd output of each DX to a Danley.  I'll then have all the PEQ's I might need to dial it in.

 

Later, when I get a HT unit, I can keep the same thing, taking the "front left" output and make it the "left" input of the Dx38.  I can take "sub 1" output and instead of running it to an amp, I can (so I think?) take it to the "Right" input of the Dx38.  Two seperate inputs to the Dx.  One is the music/HT content, other is the sub content.  I can then use the Dx to blend/delay/PEQ the signals as necessary and feed it to my amps from there.

 

Thoughts?

When my wife starts to cry, I show her images posted in the show us your system thread and her tears dry right up.

"Honey, they're speakers. Ya gotta have speakers if you want to hear the sound."

She comments about how all she sees is a room full of speakers.

After her seeing images posted to that thread, she considers me a prince.

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Thoughts? uh, no. That's all above my paygrade. I'll read it again in the morning when I'm thinking better.