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post #20371 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

If & when I up-grade the amps , I'm going the dealer demo route for sure , when you start into the mid/high range of audio gear there is so much out lay of cash that one must demo everything 1st . I M H O
I'm OK with the return of on-line gear but with 80Lbs of amp that gets expensive real Quick . . . . wink.gif
seems that the XPA line of Emotiva amps do have a noise issue be it ever slight .
The dis-continued UPA's the ( UPA-7, UPA-5 , UPA-2 ) don't have that low level noise issue & the reason they were dis-continued was that they were TOO good for what they charged, they under cut the XPA line in performance. The "New" UPA line is not nearly as good as the old ones by a long shot . If I replace my UPA-7 & UPA-2 I will have to have the new units in my house for a demo comparison. wink.gif
For sure thats the only way to go when stepping up with higher end gear is to demo them first. After I did the in store demo my dealer told me if I wasnt happy with the Parasound to bring it back but that never happened I was even more happy with it when hooking it up at home with my system/room treatments I think complimented the amp even more.I agree with your statements above also about the UPA series. I really did like my XPA 2 and 3 and the floor noise wasnt bad at all really and probably would still have them if I didnt demo the Parasound.
post #20372 of 35360
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Originally Posted by sawzalot View Post

I always had a peaked interest in Klipsch brand but really don't know too much about the different series, how far apart are the RF series from the WF series, sorry if that sounds un educated but in fact I know nothing about this brand, Thanks sawz.
If possible you really need to demo some Klipsch speakers because everyone has different taste and your room and gear can make a huge difference. I personaly like the detail that Klipsch has to offer on there higher end reference series line for movies and music there very well rounded speakers.
post #20373 of 35360
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Originally Posted by sawzalot View Post

I always had a peaked interest in Klipsch brand but really don't know too much about the different series, how far apart are the RF series from the WF series, sorry if that sounds un educated but in fact I know nothing about this brand, Thanks sawz.
quite far actually the drivers in the Reference line are very good if not state of the art for compression driver that use a horn . the WF line has tenancy to be tinny, overly bright I M O
post #20374 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

The guys here have great success with the Yamaha AVR's with their Klipsch . If towers are not your taste then look at the RB81's & a RC-62 .some what higher in price but will give you a solid front three . what size room do you have ??
Welcome to AVS BTW .... smile.gif

Thanks for the Welcome.
I will get a drawing with some dimensions of the room up on photobucket tomorrow. its an odd shaped room.
Also reading reviews like this one on Amazon worry me about Klipsch. He said it about the RB-61 II's here http://www.amazon.com/review/R119C4W3W46K9D/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R119C4W3W46K9D

"I cannot recommend the Klipsch RB-61 ii speaker. The cabinets are made from a soft composite wood product covered with a cheap, thin vinyl veneer. The only difference between the black and cherry versions is the color of the vinyl veneer. The cabinets are easily damaged and Klipsch will not sell replacements. The woofer and tweeter/baffle are secured to the cabinet by wood screws, not bolts.

Although the RB-61 ii appears high-tech, the drivers are rather cheap as well: the woofers use a plastic basket, and the horn tweeter is integrated into the front baffle, which is also plastic. To its credit, the RB-61 ii's woofers do have a heavy magnet structure, but since the baskets are plastic, the heavy magnets may actually be a drawback over time. The only parts which look substantial are the grille covers, wiring, and crossovers.

There are less expensive speakers on the market, though perhaps not as efficient, that perform as well or better than the Klipsch RB-61 ii. Check out Monitor Audio and Energy, among others. The Klipsch RB-61 ii is designed to look high-tech, but when you take it apart, it's a shoddy Made In China product with the Klipsch name slapped on. You're paying a stiff premium for the Klipsch name--this speaker should sell for $200.00 less than it does"

Does anybody know if this is true? are they made in China?
post #20375 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

So by your own admission you say you are affected by placebo effect

Yes and that is the same effect you have been having too smile.gif except that I am not making claims that my amp made the bass deeper and tighter or added more details or improved the sound stage. My claim is that a good quality (separate) amp should be neutral. I always wondered from where does an amp get the deeper and tighter bass or the extra details or the improved sound stage. Magic? smile.gif The signal cant be any cleaner that what is coming out of the pre-outs of the AVR/pre-pro or the power cant be any cleaner than what is coming out of the wall right? Yes subjective opinions need not be proven to others. That is why they are called "subjective". Anyway... enjoy your amp smile.gif
post #20376 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Mupi View Post

Yes and that is the same effect you have been having too smile.gif

I thought the placebo reference comment was funny.

Everybody is susceptible to the placebo affect. On one of the Discovery/education channels, there was a recent show on how the mind is "DESIGNED" to play tricks on our perception of reality. This point begs the question; when is real, not real? In the end, everything (and I mean everything) we perceive, boils down to how our brain "INTERPRETS" our surroundings.

The point, since everything our senses perceives in the environment is an interpretation by the brain (we're not mechanical robots), one should bone up on the subject matter surrounding their purchase, including subjective and anecdotal reviews that speak to the buyer, buy according to budget and personal tastes and then, guilt free, enjoy whatever it is their brain interprets their reality to be. Yes, life is that subjective and yes, if it makes one feel all warm and fuzzy inside, it's okay to succumb to the placebo affect in this fashion.

Caveat Emptor baby.
post #20377 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

Thanks for the Welcome.
I will get a drawing with some dimensions of the room up on photobucket tomorrow. its an odd shaped room.
Also reading reviews like this one on Amazon worry me about Klipsch. He said it about the RB-61 II's here http://www.amazon.com/review/R119C4W3W46K9D/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R119C4W3W46K9D
"I cannot recommend the Klipsch RB-61 ii speaker. The cabinets are made from a soft composite wood product covered with a cheap, thin vinyl veneer. The only difference between the black and cherry versions is the color of the vinyl veneer. The cabinets are easily damaged and Klipsch will not sell replacements. The woofer and tweeter/baffle are secured to the cabinet by wood screws, not bolts.
Although the RB-61 ii appears high-tech, the drivers are rather cheap as well: the woofers use a plastic basket, and the horn tweeter is integrated into the front baffle, which is also plastic. To its credit, the RB-61 ii's woofers do have a heavy magnet structure, but since the baskets are plastic, the heavy magnets may actually be a drawback over time. The only parts which look substantial are the grille covers, wiring, and crossovers.
There are less expensive speakers on the market, though perhaps not as efficient, that perform as well or better than the Klipsch RB-61 ii. Check out Monitor Audio and Energy, among others. The Klipsch RB-61 ii is designed to look high-tech, but when you take it apart, it's a shoddy Made In China product with the Klipsch name slapped on. You're paying a stiff premium for the Klipsch name--this speaker should sell for $200.00 less than it does"
Does anybody know if this is true? are they made in China?
The RF7II's are the only Reference speakers I beleive made in the US and also use a wood veneer . You really should demo the speakers you like to be sure.
post #20378 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

Thanks for the Welcome.
I will get a drawing with some dimensions of the room up on photobucket tomorrow. its an odd shaped room.
Also reading reviews like this one on Amazon worry me about Klipsch. He said it about the RB-61 II's here http://www.amazon.com/review/R119C4W3W46K9D/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R119C4W3W46K9D
"I cannot recommend the Klipsch RB-61 ii speaker. The cabinets are made from a soft composite wood product covered with a cheap, thin vinyl veneer. The only difference between the black and cherry versions is the color of the vinyl veneer. The cabinets are easily damaged and Klipsch will not sell replacements. The woofer and tweeter/baffle are secured to the cabinet by wood screws, not bolts.
Although the RB-61 ii appears high-tech, the drivers are rather cheap as well: the woofers use a plastic basket, and the horn tweeter is integrated into the front baffle, which is also plastic. To its credit, the RB-61 ii's woofers do have a heavy magnet structure, but since the baskets are plastic, the heavy magnets may actually be a drawback over time. The only parts which look substantial are the grille covers, wiring, and crossovers.
There are less expensive speakers on the market, though perhaps not as efficient, that perform as well or better than the Klipsch RB-61 ii. Check out Monitor Audio and Energy, among others. The Klipsch RB-61 ii is designed to look high-tech, but when you take it apart, it's a shoddy Made In China product with the Klipsch name slapped on. You're paying a stiff premium for the Klipsch name--this speaker should sell for $200.00 less than it does"
Does anybody know if this is true? are they made in China?

I have a set of the rb-61ii that I use for my rears. They are what imo you would expect from $300ish speakers (think that’s what I paid) not sure what the poster of that review expected. He’s seems mad at klipsch because he damaged his speakers somehow and they won’t replace the cabs like he wants them to?eek.gif Also did he ever say how they sounded? (Did I miss it?)rolleyes.gif
post #20379 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

Thanks for the Welcome.
I will get a drawing with some dimensions of the room up on photobucket tomorrow. its an odd shaped room.
Also reading reviews like this one on Amazon worry me about Klipsch. He said it about the RB-61 II's here http://www.amazon.com/review/R119C4W3W46K9D/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R119C4W3W46K9D
"I cannot recommend the Klipsch RB-61 ii speaker. The cabinets are made from a soft composite wood product covered with a cheap, thin vinyl veneer. The only difference between the black and cherry versions is the color of the vinyl veneer. The cabinets are easily damaged and Klipsch will not sell replacements. The woofer and tweeter/baffle are secured to the cabinet by wood screws, not bolts.
Although the RB-61 ii appears high-tech, the drivers are rather cheap as well: the woofers use a plastic basket, and the horn tweeter is integrated into the front baffle, which is also plastic. To its credit, the RB-61 ii's woofers do have a heavy magnet structure, but since the baskets are plastic, the heavy magnets may actually be a drawback over time. The only parts which look substantial are the grille covers, wiring, and crossovers.
There are less expensive speakers on the market, though perhaps not as efficient, that perform as well or better than the Klipsch RB-61 ii. Check out Monitor Audio and Energy, among others. The Klipsch RB-61 ii is designed to look high-tech, but when you take it apart, it's a shoddy Made In China product with the Klipsch name slapped on. You're paying a stiff premium for the Klipsch name--this speaker should sell for $200.00 less than it does"
Does anybody know if this is true? are they made in China?
the vast majority of all speakers in that price range are made/& or assembled in china
as for the cabinet material all modern speakers are made with MDF for a reason , it is the best material for the acoustics proven many times over,
as for plastic supports in the woofs , there is some plastics that preform better than steel .
some of the most expensive speakers you can buy have plastic parts in their tweeters . Some parts just can't be made any other way but in plastic . Some things that appear to be cheap plastic is really quite expensive carbon/glass resin composites .
Seems the reviewer is on a Rant to me . but that's Just my subjective opinions on proven science. smile.gif
post #20380 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

Thanks for the Welcome.
I will get a drawing with some dimensions of the room up on photobucket tomorrow. its an odd shaped room.
Also reading reviews like this one on Amazon worry me about Klipsch. He said it about the RB-61 II's here. . . . .
" The woofer and tweeter/baffle are secured to the cabinet by wood screws, not bolts."
Brand new Klipschorns have the woofers & horns attached with wood screws ! ! ! they have been made that way since day one ,60+ years
L O L . . . . . . . . rolleyes.gif
post #20381 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

Thanks for the Welcome.
I will get a drawing with some dimensions of the room up on photobucket tomorrow. its an odd shaped room.
Also reading reviews like this one on Amazon worry me about Klipsch. He said it about the RB-61 II's here http://www.amazon.com/review/R119C4W3W46K9D/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R119C4W3W46K9D
"I cannot recommend the Klipsch RB-61 ii speaker. The cabinets are made from a soft composite wood product covered with a cheap, thin vinyl veneer. The only difference between the black and cherry versions is the color of the vinyl veneer. The cabinets are easily damaged and Klipsch will not sell replacements. The woofer and tweeter/baffle are secured to the cabinet by wood screws, not bolts.
Although the RB-61 ii appears high-tech, the drivers are rather cheap as well: the woofers use a plastic basket, and the horn tweeter is integrated into the front baffle, which is also plastic. To its credit, the RB-61 ii's woofers do have a heavy magnet structure, but since the baskets are plastic, the heavy magnets may actually be a drawback over time. The only parts which look substantial are the grille covers, wiring, and crossovers.
There are less expensive speakers on the market, though perhaps not as efficient, that perform as well or better than the Klipsch RB-61 ii. Check out Monitor Audio and Energy, among others. The Klipsch RB-61 ii is designed to look high-tech, but when you take it apart, it's a shoddy Made In China product with the Klipsch name slapped on. You're paying a stiff premium for the Klipsch name--this speaker should sell for $200.00 less than it does"
Does anybody know if this is true? are they made in China?


Slingblyde, welcome the group. I have the RB61ii as my front left and right and have to say they sound pretty darn good! They are not the RF62ii or the RF7ii but with a good sub they sound strong with movies and music.. As far as the quality they are not vinyl veneer, but wood veneer. I would suggest auditioning them and any of the other klipsch speakers in the reference line. Home theater magazine listed the Klipsch Reference RB-61 II Speaker System as A"Top Pick" in the September 2011 issue. Good luck. JT
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What subwoofer matches the Rf 82 well? Im auditioning some klipsch rf 82 tomorrow as there are on sale and the sale ends tomorrow!!
post #20383 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Scottyp3 View Post

What subwoofer matches the Rf 82 well? Im auditioning some klipsch rf 82 tomorrow as there are on sale and the sale ends tomorrow!!
There is no real "match" but I would get the best sub you can afford that would be my recommendation.
post #20384 of 35360
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Originally Posted by jnnt29 View Post

Slingblyde, welcome the group. I have the RB61ii as my front left and right and have to say they sound pretty darn good! They are not the RF62ii or the RF7ii but with a good sub they sound strong with movies and music.. As far as the quality they are not vinyl veneer, but wood veneer. I would suggest auditioning them and any of the other klipsch speakers in the reference line. Home theater magazine listed the Klipsch Reference RB-61 II Speaker System as A"Top Pick" in the September 2011 issue. Good luck. JT
I've never heard the 62II or RB61II But every owner that I know of have all positive things to say about them.That review posted earlier was the first ive ever heard.
post #20385 of 35360
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

There is no real "match" but I would get the best sub you can afford that would be my recommendation.

future shop is selling the rf 82 not the rf 82 ii

Has anyone compared the 2? or is there even a difference?
post #20386 of 35360
I'm still trying to get things figured out! I have my bedroom and office set, with Klipsch. But my familyroom I'm still working on
This is what I'm thinking
Rb 61 ii fronts
Rc 52 ii center
Rb 51 ii rears
Sw 112 sub
Mm7025
Sr 5006
What do you think
post #20387 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post


"I cannot recommend the Klipsch RB-61 ii speaker. The cabinets are made from a soft composite wood product covered with a cheap, thin vinyl veneer. The only difference between the black and cherry versions is the color of the vinyl veneer. The cabinets are easily damaged and Klipsch will not sell replacements. The woofer and tweeter/baffle are secured to the cabinet by wood screws, not bolts.

Most of the low-mid end speakers are made of MDF (Medium Density Fiberboard) with a vinyl veneer. RB75 had wood veneer and the older models like the KG series all had wood veneer. That is why I buy them as it is possible to refinish them. I dont buy the RB75's as they are too expensive even for used pair.

And yes pretty much all woofers are screwed to the face plate. When they use the term "wood screw" it means a screw used for wood. I have opened the KG speakers when I did the refinishing. The screws are coarse so that they will stay in the MDF. You can unscrew and screw them again but after a few times, the thread on the MDF may be gone as MDF is not as dense as real wood like oak or pine or even poplar. So when I remove the woofers, I always use bolts.

Now how to do you bolt from one side. Well I dont smile.gif I open the binding post panel at the back and use that as the rear access for the nut. You could use a T-Nut but there is usually very little space on the rim of the woofer cut out for a T-Nut. Sure the threads for the binding post panel may get worn put but I do it just once and even if it wears out, I can use glue for that as it is a small plate and does not carry a lot of weight. I also use the foam tape from PartsExpress for the woofers and tweeters so that they are air tight. I use bolts for the tweeters also.

And just because speakers are made in USA, dont think the workmanship is great. When I opened the KG4.2, 4.5 woofers, I was surprised to see that the screw had chipped the wood (MDF) inside. On the low end speakers of the series like the KG3.0 (which I also refinished), the front plate is plywood and the screws had chipped the plywood badly. If they had drilled a pilot hole before putting the screw, that may not have happened. Obviously they didnt do that to save on assembly time.
post #20388 of 35360
I stand corrected. The RB61ii are vinyl veneer, but they look very good. I need to get my eyes checked. lol
post #20389 of 35360
If you don't want a speaker made in China, then the lowest you can go on the Klipsch totem pole are the RF-7iis. That is actually part of what drove my decision.

'Merica!!

Even if I drive German, watch South Korean ..... such a hypocrite.
post #20390 of 35360
I guess I shouldnt have said "made in china" so condescendingly, I was actually trying to ask if anybody else had the same viewpoint of the guy on Amazon and thought they were cheaply made. His is the only review I have read that is quite so scathing.
I would prefer something that is actually made in the US or Canada, but seeing how almost everything we own is pretty much made in China I guess I shouldnt discriminate.
I would like to demo a set, but seeing how my theater isnt done, Im pretty much euchred until it is. I am also worried that if I bought them, and didnt like the sound because they didnt sound the same as they did in the store, is the guy just going to say "Yea just return them" Id hate to be stuck with something Im not happy with and have to try to sell them.

Am I getting ahead of myself trying to decide what speakers to buy when I dont even have the wiring or drywall up yet? confused.gif
post #20391 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

I guess I shouldnt have said "made in china" so condescendingly, I was actually trying to ask if anybody else had the same viewpoint of the guy on Amazon and thought they were cheaply made. His is the only review I have read that is quite so scathing.
I would prefer something that is actually made in the US or Canada, but seeing how almost everything we own is pretty much made in China I guess I shouldnt discriminate.
I would like to demo a set, but seeing how my theater isnt done, Im pretty much euchred until it is. I am also worried that if I bought them, and didnt like the sound because they didnt sound the same as they did in the store, is the guy just going to say "Yea just return them" Id hate to be stuck with something Im not happy with and have to try to sell them.
Am I getting ahead of myself trying to decide what speakers to buy when I dont even have the wiring or drywall up yet? confused.gif
1st off I am Not Trying to spend your money here , but the 62 line is not a high impact system & with a Home Theater ==> High Impact really counts

I myself & you will find that more than one will agree look at the used Klipsch Heritage line , Fortes , the KG5.5 If those are to big in size look at the Heresy's
you will Save a boat load of cash & have speakers you will keep for a lifetime .
if all those are too big then the RB81's
post #20392 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

1st off I am Not Trying to spend your money here , but the 62 line is not a high impact system & with a Home Theater ==> High Impact really counts
I myself & you will find that more than one will agree look at the used Klipsch Heritage line , Fortes , the KG5.5 If those are to big in size look at the Heresy's
you will Save a boat load of cash & have speakers you will keep for a lifetime .
if all those are too big then the RB81's

I have been trolling the Detroit Craigslist looking for used speakers, (Craigslist here in Canada is poop in a city as small as Windsor) Im not too keen on cruising around Detroit with a pocket full of cash to buy some used speakers tho lol.
But there have been quite a few Klipsch listing on there, a set of La Scala for 900 bucks, but Im still new to this and dont really know what a good deal is if I see it.
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How big is the room/screen?
post #20394 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

I have been trolling the Detroit Craigslist looking for used speakers, (Craigslist here in Canada is poop in a city as small as Windsor) Im not too keen on cruising around Detroit with a pocket full of cash to buy some used speakers tho lol.
But there have been quite a few Klipsch listing on there, a set of La Scala for 900 bucks, but Im still new to this and dont really know what a good deal is if I see it.
$900 for LaScala is a decent price if they are in good shape
post #20395 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Reference_head View Post

How big is the room/screen?


The room is 19 feet wide, about 18 feet deep, but the right side in the back is open 10 feet wide back another 24 feet, kinda "L"Shaped in behind the seats, and I have a 120 inch screen, with an Optoma HD33 3D projector. House is a raised Ranch style. Watched The Avengers on it in 3D last night because it is taking so long to build I have temporarily set up the seats and projector. I am only using my computer speakers, the logitech Z680's for sound lol. I cant imagine what it will sound like with a real set.
post #20396 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

I have been trolling the Detroit Craigslist looking for used speakers, (Craigslist here in Canada is poop in a city as small as Windsor) Im not too keen on cruising around Detroit with a pocket full of cash to buy some used speakers tho lol.
But there have been quite a few Klipsch listing on there, a set of La Scala for 900 bucks, but Im still new to this and dont really know what a good deal is if I see it.

If you buy Klipsch from a store (not BB) , you get 1 week to return them and they are not going to be happy even if you return before 1 week. No matter what, they are going to sound different in your room. In fact the speakers I have heard (not only Klipsch) sounded awful in the store as the store rooms were worse than mine. Most stores are into custom audio so they dont care much about selling stuff from the store for a few 100 bucks. BestBuy is not a place to audition speakers :-). All they know is to turn the volume knob on the AVR :-) If you go to a store, they will have a dedicated 2ch pre-amp and amp. But the bass is most likely going to sound boomy.

Like I said before, I am into used speakers and the KG series is a great value. If you have a good sub, you dont have to go all the way to the KG5.5. I have the KG3, 3.2. 4.2, 4.5, 5.2. The KG5.5 has two 10" active woofers. The 5.2 has one 10" woofer and a 12" passive radiator. It gives as much bass as my Sunfire True Sub Junior. The specs say it only goes down to some 36Hz but that is a very conservative estimate. I did buy the KG5.5 but didnt notice much difference in the bass compared to the 5.2. It is also too heavy like 69lb. So I didnt want to deal with it. I bought it for $220/pair and sold it after 3 days for $200 smile.gif

The 4.2 has one 10" woofer and a 10" passive radiator. KG4.2 with a good sub will work for you. You dont see them too often on Craigslist. eBay price is way too high and also shipping is like $100-150 even within USA. There are a lot of bogus posts about Klipsch LaScala or Heritage. If a guy didnt have the time to put some pics and has just a blurb, I would not bother pursuing.

Just a couple of months back there was a post in the Detroit Metro area for a pair of KG4.2's for $150!! It was gone in 2 days. I have some extra KG4.5's (one 10" woofer and ported) that I may sell. So watch out for Craigslist in the metro area or eBay smile.gif

KG5.2



KG 3.2


Edited by Mupi - 9/26/12 at 5:45am
post #20397 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

The room is 19 feet wide, about 18 feet deep, but the right side in the back is open 10 feet wide back another 24 feet, kinda "L"Shaped in behind the seats, and I have a 120 inch screen, with an Optoma HD33 3D projector. House is a raised Ranch style. Watched The Avengers on it in 3D last night because it is taking so long to build I have temporarily set up the seats and projector. I am only using my computer speakers, the logitech Z680's for sound lol. I cant imagine what it will sound like with a real set.
RB-61 will not work in that room at all , they are just too small for your room volume . If you buy a small set you will soon buy larger speakers
post #20398 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

RB-61 will not work in that room at all , they are just too small for your room volume . If you buy a small set you will soon buy larger speakers

Im going to go downstairs and move some of the clutter out of the way and snap a couple pics so you get an idea what Im working with. The shape of the basement is kinda horrible for a HT. :-(
post #20399 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Mupi View Post

If you buy Klipsch from a store (not BB) , you get 1 week to return them and they are not going to be happy even if you return before 1 week. No matter what, they are going to sound different in your room. In fact the speakers I have heard (not only Klipsch) sounded awful in the store as the store rooms were worse than mine. Most stores are into custom audio so they dont care much about selling stuff from the store for a few 100 bucks. BestBuy is not a place to audition speakers :-). All they know is to turn the volume knob on the AVR :-) If you go to a store, they will have a dedicated 2ch pre-amp and amp. But the bass is most likely going to sound boomy.
Like I said before, I am into used speakers and the KG series is a great value. If you have a good sub, you dont have to go all the way to the KG5.5. I have the KG3, 3.2. 4.2, 4.5, 5.2. The KG5.5 has two 10" active woofers. The 5.2 has one 10" woofer and a 12" passive radiator. It gives as much bass as my Sunfire True Sub Junior. The specs say it only goes down to some 36Hz but that is a very conservative estimate. I did buy the KG5.5 but didnt notice much difference in the bass compared to the 5.2. It is also too heavy like 69lb. So I didnt want to deal with it. I bought it for $220/pair and sold it after 3 days for $200 smile.gif
The 4.2 has one 10" woofer and a 10" passive radiator. KG4.2 with a good sub will work for you. You dont see them too often on Craigslist. eBay price is way too high and also shipping is like $100-150 even within USA. There are a lot of bogus posts about Klipsch LaScala or Heritage. If a guy didnt have the time to put some pics and has just a blurb, I would not bother pursuing.
Just a couple of months back there was a post in the Detroit Metro area for a pair of KG4.2's for $150!! It was gone in 2 days. I have some extra KG4.5's (one 10" woofer and ported) that I may sell. So watch out for Craigslist in the metro area or eBay smile.gif
KG5.2

KG 3.2

When you buy speakers that are classics, and made back in the 80's, is there any concerns about the foam or speaker cone degrading? I have an old set of DB+ speakers I bought back in about 1985 and the foam around the passive radiator degenerated and the passive radiator basically fell out.
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

When you buy speakers that are classics, and made back in the 80's, is there any concerns about the foam or speaker cone degrading? I have an old set of DB+ speakers I bought back in about 1985 and the foam around the passive radiator degenerated and the passive radiator basically fell out.
that's Very valid concern , as in the Forte speakers there are people right now on the Klipsch forum @ the Klipsch.com site actively looking on ways to repair the passives , as well as others looking to figure out how to repair rotted woofer foams in KG speakers . It's huge issue when one is trying to restore vintage speakers . As with KG, Forte these parts are no longer made .
The good news is that the Heritage line speakers every one of them no matter how old has new parts , aftermarket parts & upgrade mod parts that actually improve the SQ readily available in a very robust rebuild & restore market . I myself have rebuilt my near 40 year old Cornwalls , I'm on my 2nd rebuild of these 4 speakers .
check out these forums over at the site ....

http://community.klipsch.com/forums/
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