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post #20881 of 22400
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Originally Posted by ironpirate View Post

hey guys im looking to upgrade my center, i feel like its not loud enough as my mains (f-1s).

Have you tried bumping up the loudness of the center channel in the AVR? You should be able to make it go "as loud" as your mains and make sure the speaker is angled towards your ears...Of course it none of that works upgrade your center channel. Good Luck.
post #20882 of 22400
Just hoping for some input. I have klipsch wf-34 in the front wc 24 center and a decent (polk psw505) sub. Stuck on whether or not to purchase the wf-35's for the front and using the 34's for rears, or keeping the 34s in front and getting the ws-24 for rear. kinda leaning toward the 35's since they can be purchaed online for under 300 bucks. Any input greatly appreciated
post #20883 of 22400
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

Welcome to the thread shinksma. I primarily listen to multichannel music and would suggest different speakers than the small monitors you are considering. Fwiw, I own 5 pair of Klipsch bookshelf speakers and the only ones I would really like running as mains for this material would be the discontinued RB-75s because of the larger compression driver for the horn and it is a really well made speaker. Another consideration is to go all Klipsch Heresy which are readily available in the used mkt, but I prefer the former but they will be hard to find.
All that being said , I still prefer running towers all of the way around. smile.gif Good luck and that's my 2 cents.

Yeah, I had originally intended to run towers in a 5.1 configuration (with a MTM center), but the possible positions for the rears are essentially the same as my current layout, of which I'm not satisfied provides coverage for the rear row of seats as well as a 7.1 layout might.

I will also readily admit that due to other stuff in the room, there is little available floor space, and bookshelf speakers mounted up off the wall in the rear would help reduce apparent overall clutter.

Hmmm, need to re-look at RF-82 IIs all around now. Maybe I should consider removing some of the other clutter...

Anyone else have anything to chime in?

shinksma
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

Yeah, I had originally intended to run towers in a 5.1 configuration (with a MTM center), but the possible positions for the rears are essentially the same as my current layout, of which I'm not satisfied provides coverage for the rear row of seats as well as a 7.1 layout might.
I will also readily admit that due to other stuff in the room, there is little available floor space, and bookshelf speakers mounted up off the wall in the rear would help reduce apparent overall clutter.
Hmmm, need to re-look at RF-82 IIs all around now. Maybe I should consider removing some of the other clutter...
Anyone else have anything to chime in?
shinksma
I for one think my HT systems sounds better & is more dynamic when the fronts & the surrounds/rears are all the same speaker . The modern audio mixes in movies now use the surround channels as much as the fronts . I'd vote 82's all around for you , even if things have to be moved to get the towers in place it is well worth it I M H O smile.gif
post #20885 of 22400
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Originally Posted by shoe1028 View Post

Just hoping for some input. I have klipsch wf-34 in the front wc 24 center and a decent (polk psw505) sub. Stuck on whether or not to purchase the wf-35's for the front and using the 34's for rears, or keeping the 34s in front and getting the ws-24 for rear. kinda leaning toward the 35's since they can be purchased online for under 300 bucks. Any input greatly appreciated
get the 35 you will not regret it over the ws-24's
post #20886 of 22400
yeah, think im planning on the 35's, lets just hope they dont sell out before tax time
post #20887 of 22400
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

I for one think my HT systems sounds better & is more dynamic when the fronts & the surrounds/rears are all the same speaker . The modern audio mixes in movies now use the surround channels as much as the fronts . I'd vote 82's all around for you , even if things have to be moved to get the towers in place it is well worth it I M H O smile.gif

Well, to bide my time and experiment in the meantime, I hooked up a couple of pretty-good-but-nothing-special bookshelf speakers as rear surrounds, and mounted them roughly where I'd want something permanent in a 7.1 config.

I'll see whether I like the hopefully more enveloping rear sound the additional pair provide (knowing they aren't timbre matched, etc), and that will drive me towards a 7.1 or 5.1 solution, I suppose.

So, if I go with RF-82 IIs all around, what should I do for the center? I can't set an RF-82 in front of my PJ screen. So am I stuck with a MTM-type center such as an RC-62?

Hmm, I'm glad I don't need to make a decision right now - I'm very conflicted about what direction to go in. Especially since I just doubled my cost factor by upgrading from the RB-61s to the RF-82s.

shinksma
post #20888 of 22400
The RC-62 uses the same driver/horn assembly as the RF-82 do
so that would give you a real fully timbre matched system
I find instead of running backs I run either heights &/or wides is more pleasing
when you run without backs the back signals are included into the surrounds & my surrounds are slightly behind my ears so the effect is the same . the added front speakers (heights/wides) add a wider sound stage & depth to movies adds to the jet flying over,rain on the roof , bullets fly across the room type effects . bookshelves work well as heights/wides .
post #20889 of 22400
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Originally Posted by Kalani View Post

Yes, of course, I ran Audyssey first thing upon moving in, LOL (and again when I upgraded the sub). I did bump up the center channel a notch or two, and the distances are correct. I didn't cross-check with a db meter although I suppose I could.
Return shipping that beast would make it not worthwhile just as an experiment, so I'm loathe to check out the amp unless there's a good chance I'll be keeping it... it's not an insignificant purchase, so I'll have to show results to sell the wife on it.
Here's the current layout (roughly) (viewing distance approx 9'):

Here's an old photo showing layout from the condo: (viewing distance was about 14')

odd, should be better then. is there any way you can move the center out or above the TV to test the sound and see if it changes? Also, any chance of hooking one of the other speakers to act as the center to see how it will sound in its place? I know this is only a temporary thing but maybe the center channel was damaged during the move.
post #20890 of 22400
Well, finally got my RF-82 II's, RC-64 II, and RS-52 II's setup and ARC rerun on my Anthem MRX700 receiver. So far, I AM IMPRESSED.

The single greatest improvement I have noticed is more forward and clear movie dialogue. Even with my Paradigm Sig setup, I never had such clarity for voice reproduction. I watched The Dark Knight Rises four seperate times on my Sig setup. And every time I was left wishing the dialogue was a tad more forward, especially Banes voice (such as the opening scene on the airplane....I usually had to struggle to make out what was being said). With the Klipsch setup, voices and dialogue was perfectly audible. Banes voice boomed over the roar of the plane engines, just like I remembered from the theaters.

The only con I have right now is getting used to how forward sounding the horns are. My Paradigm setups were always more neutral and "smooth". I dont dislike this new sound characteristic of the Klipschs...just have to let my ears adjust, especially since I found myself listening a few dB's louder then usual because of their insanse clarity and sensitivity, a major plus (for movies) over my Sig's.

More detailed impressions to follow as I watch more movies in full and grow acustomed to the new sound.

Thanks guys!
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BCJ , yeah the brightness will pass , do you have a carpet on the floor ?
sometimes the harshness is reflections off the floor , ceiling , walls if you any acoustic panels you might move them around a bit .
you'd have to run the room correction again as well with any changes .
Glad they worked out for ya smile.gif
post #20892 of 22400
That's how I was with the RF7IIs. With my last towers I was always missing dialogue. Haven't had that problem with the RF7s. Don't have the forward sound though you are stating. I do have room treatments. I recall one time w/my 3808ci explosions and gunshots were too much. I reran Audyssey and all was good. Never had that problem with the A100 RF7II setup. Music should sound crisp and clear also. Congratulations
post #20893 of 22400
The floor is carpeted along with a throw rug. All of the seats are cloth. And the front wall, side walls, and back wall are all acoustically treated.

Pretty sure it's just my ears getting used to the new sound characteristic. I like the new sound and am not complaining. Just noting I can definitely hear a tonal difference in the characteristic of the Klipschs vs the Paradigms.

Just got to let my ears transition through a couple of full movies smile.gif
post #20894 of 22400
What is the difference between these two drivers?

K-1083-SB
Part number: 120841

K-1083-SV
Part number: 120856
post #20895 of 22400
Does anyone know how the smaller Palladium center channel speaker compares to the RC-64ii? I can't remember the Palladium model number that I am referring too, but I believe it is the smaller one in the Palladium lineup. I am just curious as to how they sound compared to each other? If the price is the same, which would give the best clarity, detail, and mid-bass?
post #20896 of 22400
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Originally Posted by Martycool007 View Post

Does anyone know how the smaller Palladium center channel speaker compares to the RC-64ii? I can't remember the Palladium model number that I am referring too, but I believe it is the smaller one in the Palladium lineup. I am just curious as to how they sound compared to each other? If the price is the same, which would give the best clarity, detail, and mid-bass?

There is only one Palladium center channel, the P-27C, and it retails for $3500--If you can get it for $800 I would go for it: http://www.klipsch.com/p-27c-center-speaker
post #20897 of 22400
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

Well, finally got my RF-82 II's, RC-64 II, and RS-52 II's setup and ARC rerun on my Anthem MRX700 receiver. So far, I AM IMPRESSED.
The single greatest improvement I have noticed is more forward and clear movie dialogue. Even with my Paradigm Sig setup, I never had such clarity for voice reproduction. I watched The Dark Knight Rises four seperate times on my Sig setup. And every time I was left wishing the dialogue was a tad more forward, especially Banes voice (such as the opening scene on the airplane....I usually had to struggle to make out what was being said). With the Klipsch setup, voices and dialogue was perfectly audible. Banes voice boomed over the roar of the plane engines, just like I remembered from the theaters.
The only con I have right now is getting used to how forward sounding the horns are. My Paradigm setups were always more neutral and "smooth". I dont dislike this new sound characteristic of the Klipschs...just have to let my ears adjust, especially since I found myself listening a few dB's louder then usual because of their insanse clarity and sensitivity, a major plus (for movies) over my Sig's.
More detailed impressions to follow as I watch more movies in full and grow acustomed to the new sound.
Thanks guys!

That is what I love MOST about my new setup. The Klipsch Center is amazing imo. Banes voice really came through very well. If you have a good SUB, I suggest you rent or go buy the moving TRON:LEGACY to see what your setup can do!! It will blow your mind
post #20898 of 22400
Am I the only one who's bothered how they decided to mix Banes voice to ALL channels at the same level? Like, if you were in the room with him, you'd hear his voice coming from behind you as well as in front of you. rolleyes.gif
post #20899 of 22400
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Originally Posted by Ruben Z View Post

That is what I love MOST about my new setup. The Klipsch Center is amazing imo. Banes voice really came through very well. If you have a good SUB, I suggest you rent or go buy the moving TRON:LEGACY to see what your setup can do!! It will blow your mind

I have the RC-64's little brother (RC-62 II), but I agree with these sentiments. To me, the theater experience is in the quality of the dialogue and the subtle details, not the big booms and action scenes. Any $500 system can handle the big booms with little issue, but the Klipsch really nail it when it comes to dialogue and the small details/ambient sounds. I watched Office Space on blu ray last night (not the greatest demo blu ray lol), but I was finally able to decipher some of the whispering/under the breath comments. There were also a lot of ambient details that I had never heard before (having watched the movie MANY times).

I also agree that Tron Legacy is an awesome disc to demo your system. I keep waiting for it to come down in price so I can pick it up.
post #20900 of 22400
My RS-52 IIs will be arriving this Thursday to complete my Klipsch Reference setup. I've never had dipole surrounds before. Are there any general placement recommendations for dipoles? These will be used as traditional side surrounds (slightly behind listening area and to the side) in a 5.1 setup. One of the surrounds will be in a corner (no other choice), and the other one will be more open. Thanks.
post #20901 of 22400
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Originally Posted by tsaville View Post

I have the RC-64's little brother (RC-62 II), but I agree with these sentiments. To me, the theater experience is in the quality of the dialogue and the subtle details, not the big booms and action scenes. Any $500 system can handle the big booms with little issue, but the Klipsch really nail it when it comes to dialogue and the small details/ambient sounds. I watched Office Space on blu ray last night (not the greatest demo blu ray lol), but I was finally able to decipher some of the whispering/under the breath comments. There were also a lot of ambient details that I had never heard before (having watched the movie MANY times).
I also agree that Tron Legacy is an awesome disc to demo your system. I keep waiting for it to come down in price so I can pick it up.

I agree that the devil is in the details, but I've spent a heck of a lot more than $500 to get big booms. biggrin.gif
post #20902 of 22400
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

I agree that the devil is in the details, but I've spent a heck of a lot more than $500 to get big booms. biggrin.gif

I agree. it is all relative to what you are trying to achieve. You certainly are not going to get clean reference levels with a $500 system. smile.gif
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post #20903 of 22400
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

I agree that the devil is in the details, but I've spent a heck of a lot more than $500 to get big booms. biggrin.gif

Sure, I made no mention of the QUALITY of the booms on a $500 system. smile.gif
post #20904 of 22400
I was planning to post a more general "comparison" thread in the speaker section. But I also wanted to post something a little more specific here, too.
I was at a local Fry's a few weeks back, and looked at their choices for bookshelf speakers. Hard to find too many places to audition speakers in SoCal, any longer.
They happened to have a pair of Polk RTiA3 speakers there, which happened to be one of the bookshelf options I was contemplating. However, they also had a set of the Klipsch RB-61 II speakers.
I listened to both, and found the Klipsch to be quite surprising (never really paid any attention to Klipsch in the past) - as they seemed to be consistently brighter, and louder then the Polk models. Hard to say which had better bass/midrange. But the Klipsch certainly skewed my line of thinking a bit.

But for this thread, my question really isn't about the difference between the Polk & the Klipsch. It's actually about the difference between the RB-61 II and the bigger RB-81 II speakers.
Fry's had the RB-61 II models selling for $439.99/pair, which seems like a pretty good price, considering the MSRP on the Klipsch site. But that makes the bigger RB-81 II speakers almost twice as expensive, at the MSRP over $800/pair. I haven't looked exhaustively on the web, but the few listings I found indeed only had the 81's at MSRP. Not lower. As a side note, maybe I need to call those retailers? I know that can often reveal the "true" lower price.

But before I ramble on any further. Can anyone who has/does actually own both those speakers comment on the extra return from buying the bigger 81 models? I would assume that the bass response is potentially much better with the ported 8" woofers. But is it worth (seemingly) double the cost of the 61's?

Thanks!
post #20905 of 22400
if you can at all afford the 81's... that's the way to go. ported and larger drivers. That's my .02$
Be sure to take a long look around before buying the 81's, prices vary wildly... you may even consider used... I would.

and yes... please do not mention Klipsch and Polk in the same thread.rolleyes.gif
post #20906 of 22400
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Originally Posted by tsaville View Post

My RS-52 IIs will be arriving this Thursday to complete my Klipsch Reference setup. I've never had dipole surrounds before. Are there any general placement recommendations for dipoles? These will be used as traditional side surrounds (slightly behind listening area and to the side) in a 5.1 setup. One of the surrounds will be in a corner (no other choice), and the other one will be more open. Thanks.
If I understand correctly, the RS's are not dipole speakers. They utilizes WDST, which allows great flexibility in placement.

I'm going to mount my RS62II's with a key hole screw on stud but they won't line up with each other exactly since the studs are not lining up perfectly on opposite walls. How high up the walls would I mount them?
post #20907 of 22400
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Originally Posted by tsaville View Post

I have the RC-64's little brother (RC-62 II), but I agree with these sentiments.

Ya, I was speaking of my RC-62. The 64 is just too wide for my area.
post #20908 of 22400
Hello all, I am looking for some input.

I just replaced my Polk PSW Series PSW505 with a Klipsch RW-12D, and am now looking to replace my Polk RM8 satellites with some Klipsch speakers for rear surround. My current setup is RC-42II, 2x RF-42II, and 2x RS-42II. I am unsure whether I should round out with the RBs or 2 more RFs for the rear surround.

Related to this, would it be worth sticking with my RC-42, or upgrading it to the 52? I have noticed that in some movies, voices do seem somewhat low/drowned out.


Thanks guys!
post #20909 of 22400
Hey guys finally going to complete my setup. I'm running RF82 v1 fronts RC62 v1 an RW-10d and will be adding 4 RC-41 II for surrounds. I know the surrounds are not of the same caliber as fronts/centers but I imagine it should be relatively ok right? Should I mount the RC41s on the wall or on the roof of living room?
post #20910 of 22400
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Originally Posted by Doug Nash View Post

I was planning to post a more general "comparison" thread in the speaker section. But I also wanted to post something a little more specific here, too.
I was at a local Fry's a few weeks back, and looked at their choices for bookshelf speakers. Hard to find too many places to audition speakers in SoCal, any longer.
They happened to have a pair of Polk RTiA3 speakers there, which happened to be one of the bookshelf options I was contemplating. However, they also had a set of the Klipsch RB-61 II speakers.
I listened to both, and found the Klipsch to be quite surprising (never really paid any attention to Klipsch in the past) - as they seemed to be consistently brighter, and louder then the Polk models. Hard to say which had better bass/midrange. But the Klipsch certainly skewed my line of thinking a bit.
But for this thread, my question really isn't about the difference between the Polk & the Klipsch. It's actually about the difference between the RB-61 II and the bigger RB-81 II speakers.
Fry's had the RB-61 II models selling for $439.99/pair, which seems like a pretty good price, considering the MSRP on the Klipsch site. But that makes the bigger RB-81 II speakers almost twice as expensive, at the MSRP over $800/pair. I haven't looked exhaustively on the web, but the few listings I found indeed only had the 81's at MSRP. Not lower. As a side note, maybe I need to call those retailers? I know that can often reveal the "true" lower price.
But before I ramble on any further. Can anyone who has/does actually own both those speakers comment on the extra return from buying the bigger 81 models? I would assume that the bass response is potentially much better with the ported 8" woofers. But is it worth (seemingly) double the cost of the 61's?
Thanks!


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