Klipsch owner thread - Page 701

Originally Posted by Zen Traveler 

I suggest anyone who is considering an amp, level match it to the AVR at the volume you want to listen and see if you can tell a difference...Fwiw, I asked a couple of years ago how many people who had amps had done this and got no positive replies which surprised me. If your speakers aren't clipping, that really is the only way to tell if you need one.

Originally Posted by popalock 

I finally experienced my RF-7II's clipping last weekend when I demoed for a fellow AVSer...

My AVR is the Pio Elite SC-57
Fronts set to Large
Playing the street crossfire scene from Cloverfield

Watched the same scene, but crossed the mains over at 80hz and no more clipping. I need to man up and get an omnimic already to post measurements. However, we were confident that we were well above reference volumes in my humble 1,500ft^3 space.

I'm going to give external amplification a shot just for the hell of it. If I can get an extra 3db of headroom, I'll be satisfied.

Question for you guys. When the CD reaches it's limit, does it give any kind of warning, or is it just going to blow?

Originally Posted by popalock 

I finally experienced my RF-7II's clipping last weekend when I demoed for a fellow AVSer...

My AVR is the Pio Elite SC-57
Fronts set to Large
Playing the street crossfire scene from Cloverfield

Watched the same scene, but crossed the mains over at 80hz and no more clipping. I need to man up and get an omnimic already to post measurements. However, we were confident that we were well above reference volumes in my humble 1,500ft^3 space.

Originally Posted by Ruben Z 

Do any of you have RB's as surrounds and are they too much speaker for surrounds? I need surrounds to finish up my Klipsch System (RF82's II, RC-62 II, RW12D) but I don't want to spend soo much on surrounds if they aren't really going to see a lot of action.

Originally Posted by tony123 

Little off topic, but boy have my tastes changed. I can't watch scenes like that at reference any longer. I do if giving a demo in the room to someone looking to see what's under the hood, but otherwise, I get a headache after ten minutes or so.

Originally Posted by Zen Traveler 

Hey popalock, we have similar size rooms and I run a" 7.2" system and cross my RF-7s at 60 Hz because there is no they can hit those lower notes as effortlessly as my RSW-12/15 subs--You may want to consider another sub even if it's not in the most prime location. That said, THX Reference level on my Denon AVR 4806 is "0" and I play most things at around -15 to -18, with action movies sometimes as high as -12...Insofar as Reference level is concerned, even the experts (Chris @ Audyssey) says most people listen 10 to 15 dB lower than this.

Originally Posted by Ruben Z 

Do any of you have RB's as surrounds and are they too much speaker for surrounds? I need surrounds to finish up my Klipsch System (RF82's II, RC-62 II, RW12D) but I don't want to spend soo much on surrounds if they aren't really going to see a lot of action.

Originally Posted by Ruben Z 

Do any of you have RB's as surrounds and are they too much speaker for surrounds? I need surrounds to finish up my Klipsch System (RF82's II, RC-62 II, RW12D) but I don't want to spend soo much on surrounds if they aren't really going to see a lot of action.

Originally Posted by ILOVEMYHDTV 

hi all. i use the older versions of RB-81's for front heights an side surrounds and a pair of RB-61's II for back surround. they work verry very good for me. an not illogical to use such large speakers for surrounds because it's not,

Originally Posted by popalock 

C'mon Tony! Your comment about literally making a guy puke after he demo'd your setup was one of my sources of inspitation for my current ..

Originally Posted by Fastslappy 

my surrounds are the same speaker as my mains are & I tell Ya on some movies the impact is huge , as some of the newer action flix use the surrounds as much as the mains thru out the movie
in some scenes I get dialog from the surrounds only

Originally Posted by tsaville 

I agree with this. I have some blu-rays where the surrounds are active for 90% of the movie. I think the days of using crappy leftover speakers for surrounds are (or at least should be) over.

Originally Posted by tony123 

I know, I know... It was almost like turning a switch that my tastes have changed. Weird.

Originally Posted by donniek 

Hello all, major Klipsch fan for years here.

Just upgraded to a 7.1 setup

Fronts RF-3
Center- RC 42-II
Surrounds- RS-41 II
Surround backs- RF-3
Sub- ksw-12

Had the front RF-3's for about 11 years now and love them. Was given a second pair for christmas(pair my dad bought for himself cause he like mine so much, but he doesn't use them anymore), and decided to go all out and added the center and RS surrounds to replace some Sony's. Am I correct for using the RS as surrounds and RF's as surround backs? So far blu rays sound incredible, but I had to turn up the level or the side surrounds as the power of the RF's in the back was kinda drowning them out.

My main reason for posting, I had an old yamaha 5.1 avr that I thought the sound was amazing on with klipsch but no hdmi, had to upgrade to a 7.1 but do to low funds after the speakers and having a $100 gift card to walmart, I went with a Sony STRDH520 7.1.

I know sony is not a recommended brand, but will this get the job done, or am I totally gimping my speakers? My speakers don't sound as alive as with the yamaha for music... but so far blur rays/video games sound pretty good. I have 2 months to return the sony and was wondering if it would be worth it to upgrade considering my setup(I mainly use for blu rays and video games and can't really crank the volume too high as I live in an apartment right now but have had no complaints so far haha, sound is pretty isolated). If so what would be a good AVR for my setup for under $500 or so.... like I said I loved the Yamaha sound so I have been looking at their 7.1 models like the RX-V671 and RX-V573... just not sure if it will be that big of a difference and worth the extra $2-300

Any help/thoughts would be much appreciated! Thanks!

Originally Posted by TVMan1414 

Hello all Klipsch owners....

I will be purchasing the following items and had a couple questions:

RF-82 ii (Fronts)
RF-62 ii (Center)
RS-52 ii (Surrounds)

For now I will have to have the surrounds on stands because of my room configuration. Does anyone have recommendations for a good stand for these speakers (RS-52 ii)? Also I will be purchasing over the phone so I can get a better deal on the above package. Has anyone purchased this many and expensive speakers over the phone? How did it go? And who did you buy from? Anyone with experience with over the phone sales with World Wide Stereo and Acoustic Sound Design?

Thanks Again for any input and help on this!

TVMan1414

Originally Posted by TVMan1414 

Hello all Klipsch owners....

I will be purchasing the following items and had a couple questions:

RF-82 ii (Fronts)
RF-62 ii (Center)
RS-52 ii (Surrounds)

For now I will have to have the surrounds on stands because of my room configuration. Does anyone have recommendations for a good stand for these speakers (RS-52 ii)? Also I will be purchasing over the phone so I can get a better deal on the above package. Has anyone purchased this many and expensive speakers over the phone? How did it go? And who did you buy from? Anyone with experience with over the phone sales with World Wide Stereo and Acoustic Sound Design?

Thanks Again for any input and help on this!

TVMan1414

Originally Posted by Fastslappy 

swap the rs41 to the backs those RF-3 are WAY more powerful & there's more signal going to the surround channels ,in modern movies the surrounds get about the same signal/content volume % as your mains do look back a few post & you will see we were just discussing that , those RF-3 are great speakers & to have 4 of them is a helluva Home Theater . The RC41 is not gonna be able to be keeping up with RF3's you will find , if you seem to have problems with voices in whispers that is why . That Sony is not gonna push the 7 speakers the way you like , if you can return & spend the extra just look for the highest watts per channel you can afford

Originally Posted by donniek 

Thanks for the input! The reasoning I put the RF's in the back is the RS41 II's are Bi-polar(i think) and I read they are made to disperse sound and work better as side surround and directional speakers work best as back surrounds, also I usually run pro logic 11x as most blu rays have 5.1 sound so I think a lot of the sound still goes to the rears... but I guess the power of the RF-3's would trump this thinking? As for the RC42 II center, I turned up the level 5 db's and have had no problems in movies for it keeping up with the RF3's.

Originally Posted by Fastslappy 

the RS41 still will not be powerful enuff no way no how to keep up with RF's & have the RF-3 as a back speaker is a waste

Originally Posted by donniek 

... I turned up the level 5 db's and have had no problems in movies for it keeping up with the RF3's.

Originally Posted by Fastslappy 

the RS41 still will not be powerful enuff no way no how to keep up with RF's & have the RF-3 as a back speaker is a waste

Originally Posted by Zen Traveler 

I agree that he should switch his RF-3s for side surrounds, but if level matched the RS-41s would work as rear speakers.

Originally Posted by RickD1225 

The RS speakers are Wide Dispersion Surround Tecnology (WDST) a Klipsch exclusive technology and they are best used for side surrounds.

Originally Posted by donniek 



Hmm so you think I should put the RSs as rears even though they use the wide dispersion? Wouldn't that be a wast of the sound field they create? Just boost the level up? I did originally have them as the rears, but after doing some reading as to how they are supposed to be used, and not even really being able to tell they were there, I switch them to the sides, and I must say the sound field is nice... but I really don't want the RF3s to go to waste,and the the fact that rear speakers should be directional from everything I've read ... wish I would have researched more and ordered some RB's before I pulled the trigger on the RS's