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post #21151 of 35219
No, I didn't have to ship it back. Which struck me as odd.
post #21152 of 35219
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Originally Posted by brightdarkness View Post

No, I didn't have to ship it back. Which struck me as odd.
So you have extra Parts now ? ? ? smile.gif
post #21153 of 35219
That's the best. You can keep it for another room or sell it on Craigslist and recoup some costs.
post #21154 of 35219
Can anyone tell me the TAD CD that Jubilee owners usually upgrade too? Is it the 2002 or other?

If anyone knows, can the tell me the cost as well?

Feel free to shoot me a PM if you don't want to post it up here.

Thanks!
post #21155 of 35219
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

Can anyone tell me the TAD CD that Jubilee owners usually upgrade too? Is it the 2002 or other?

If anyone knows, can the tell me the cost as well?

Feel free to shoot me a PM if you don't want to post it up here.

Thanks!

I don't know what you mean by "CD".  I presume you're asking about the driver.

 

The upgrade would be to the TAD-4002.  Unfortunately, it's no longer in production.  I think it's being replaced with the 4003.  I looked at the 4003 (or whatever the model number is) and it looks to my non-technical eyes that the unit is a 11/2" horn without an adapter to convert it to a 2" horn which is what the Jubilee owners are using.

 

Used TAD's can be found on Ebay but one needs to be careful that they are in good order and have the original BE diaphragm.  I don't remember how much but I think an original TAD replacement is something like $800 so if you find a pair on Ebay that are dead or have the Radian brand in them, you need to pay accordingly.

 

Having heard the TAD side by side with the stock K69 driver and then owning a pair of TAD's, it is a clear upgrade in sound over the stock K69 driver.

 

Having some unexpected doctor bills, I sold my TAD's and they were my first choice to sell.  The were my first choice to sell in part for their 'density of value' (relatively small item that had some value and would be easy to ship).  Another thought that went into the equation is that in my opinion, the step from the Khorn to the Jubilee was a more substantial improvment in sound than the move from the stock K69 driver to the TAD 4002 driver.

 

If you look on Ebay for them, you'd be ahead of the game if you looked at only those that include the adapter to take them to a 2" format.  I think that's the 4002-Z version with the Z meaning adapter.  Nobody that I've seen lists them that way on Ebay.

 

New I think these were north of $2,000 each??  (not sure)

Used, I bought mine for something like $2,500 for the pair (with BE diaphragms)

post #21156 of 35219

Here's the stock K69 driver next to the TAD-4002 with the adapter attached.

post #21157 of 35219
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Originally Posted by coytee View Post

Here's the stock K69 driver next to the TAD-4002 with the adapter attached.

I knew you'd come through coytee!

Thanks man.

Oh, by CD, I mean "compression driver."
post #21158 of 35219
Hi all,

First time poster here, although I have been lurking for a little while!

I was hoping for a little bit of advice. I decided just before Christmas to go for an RF-62 II 7.1 system to upgrade from what I have currently (generic satellite 7.1 system).

I got a great boxing day price on 4 x RS-42 II surrounds and an RC-500 (Futureshop re-badged RC-52 original) center. I'm ordering an SVS PB-1000 subwoofer with the plan to purchase a second one in the future for 7.2. So I've pretty well got everything sorted but the RF-62 II mains (backwards, I know).

My AVR is a Denon 2310ci (105 watts per channel). We use the system for 80% HT use and 20% music (mainly LP/vinyl). Room size is small at approx. 1800 cubic feet. I do live in an apartment, so I don't play very loud (-20 db give or take). I don't want to totally destroy my relationship with the neighbors - wink.gif. I just want quality 7.1 sound.

I've been waiting for a good deal on some RF-62 II mains, as they're a little pricey here in Alberta, Canada (599.99 each). The RF-600 (Futureshop re-badged RF-62 original) were a little cheaper (499.99 each), but for the price difference, I've read that the newer RF-62 II are a little less bright and have a better crossover system. Admittedly, I haven't been able to tell too much of a difference in sound between the RF-62 II and RF-600/RF-62 when demo-ing in store, but that is mainly due to the fact that only Futureshop have the RF-600 (RF-62) while the other two shops in town that carry Klipsch only have the RF-62 II. So a direct comparison isn't really possible.

Now Futureshop just announced a sale on Klipsch products and the RF-600/RF-62 are now 399.99 each which isn't too bad of a price, and makes it harder to justify the higher price of the newer RF-62 II. What complicates this further is that Futureshop is also now selling RF-800 (re-badged RF-82) for 449.99 each (down from 799.99 each!). That makes the RF-800/RF-82 the best deal by far, but I'm worried that the RF-800/RF-82 mains would overpower my 4 x RS-42 II surrounds and my RC-500/RC-52 by a fair margin, and throw off the balance. I'm concerned that I would then want to upgrade the surrounds and the center pretty quickly to match, and my significant other isn't going to agree to that. She may agree to upgrading the center to an RC-62 II down the line, but there is no way she'll agree to upgrading the RS-42 II surrounds. I don't even want to have to deal with the fury I'll invoke just by *asking* about upgrading the speakers I just purchased a month ago...

So (long story short), I was wondering if anyone out there had any advice with regards to my options:

(In no particular order)
A) Wait for RF-62 II to go on sale to complete the initially planned, balanced system with the latest sound tech.
B) Purchase a pair of the older model RF-600/RF-62 to finish a balanced system for a fair bit cheaper than the more recent RF-62 II.
C) Go for the best deal and purchase the older model RF-800/RF-82 mains and just accept that the sound may not be well balanced when listening to HT.

I apologize for the long post!

Thanks in advance for any advice!
post #21159 of 35219
Haven t posted here for a while. Few updated pics. new ht pic.jpg 185k .jpg file
new ht pic2.jpg 172k .jpg file
post #21160 of 35219
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Originally Posted by ApOwain View Post

Hi all,

First time poster here, although I have been lurking for a little while!

I was hoping for a little bit of advice. I decided just before Christmas to go for an RF-62 II 7.1 system to upgrade from what I have currently (generic satellite 7.1 system).

I got a great boxing day price on 4 x RS-42 II surrounds and an RC-500 (Futureshop re-badged RC-52 original) center. I'm ordering an SVS PB-1000 subwoofer with the plan to purchase a second one in the future for 7.2. So I've pretty well got everything sorted but the RF-62 II mains (backwards, I know).

My AVR is a Denon 2310ci (105 watts per channel). We use the system for 80% HT use and 20% music (mainly LP/vinyl). Room size is small at approx. 1800 cubic feet. I do live in an apartment, so I don't play very loud (-20 db give or take). I don't want to totally destroy my relationship with the neighbors - wink.gif. I just want quality 7.1 sound.

I've been waiting for a good deal on some RF-62 II mains, as they're a little pricey here in Alberta, Canada (599.99 each). The RF-600 (Futureshop re-badged RF-62 original) were a little cheaper (499.99 each), but for the price difference, I've read that the newer RF-62 II are a little less bright and have a better crossover system. Admittedly, I haven't been able to tell too much of a difference in sound between the RF-62 II and RF-600/RF-62 when demo-ing in store, but that is mainly due to the fact that only Futureshop have the RF-600 (RF-62) while the other two shops in town that carry Klipsch only have the RF-62 II. So a direct comparison isn't really possible.

Now Futureshop just announced a sale on Klipsch products and the RF-600/RF-62 are now 399.99 each which isn't too bad of a price, and makes it harder to justify the higher price of the newer RF-62 II. What complicates this further is that Futureshop is also now selling RF-800 (re-badged RF-82) for 449.99 each (down from 799.99 each!). That makes the RF-800/RF-82 the best deal by far, but I'm worried that the RF-800/RF-82 mains would overpower my 4 x RS-42 II surrounds and my RC-500/RC-52 by a fair margin, and throw off the balance. I'm concerned that I would then want to upgrade the surrounds and the center pretty quickly to match, and my significant other isn't going to agree to that. She may agree to upgrading the center to an RC-62 II down the line, but there is no way she'll agree to upgrading the RS-42 II surrounds. I don't even want to have to deal with the fury I'll invoke just by *asking* about upgrading the speakers I just purchased a month ago...

So (long story short), I was wondering if anyone out there had any advice with regards to my options:

(In no particular order)
A) Wait for RF-62 II to go on sale to complete the initially planned, balanced system with the latest sound tech.
B) Purchase a pair of the older model RF-600/RF-62 to finish a balanced system for a fair bit cheaper than the more recent RF-62 II.
C) Go for the best deal and purchase the older model RF-800/RF-82 mains and just accept that the sound may not be well balanced when listening to HT.

I apologize for the long post!

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Funny thing is that I am looking at the EXACT same system which I bought today with the 800's! I really want the new ones which are the also on sale here: http://www.radiocrafts.ca/klipsch-calgary-store.html .... going to go soon and see if I get a good deal on a 9.2 system. Also does any one know should I use the surround speakers or the bookshelf type for my 9.2 hometheater?? And speaking of balance, if you run your auto setup on your AVR it should balance the speakers for you..thats what I think. Im new to this as well! =)
post #21161 of 35219
I noticed Klipsch Reference speakers on sale this week and thought I might look at replacing my centre channel. It's an old Infinity Video One.

Klipsch Reference Centre Channel Speaker (RC500B) for $299 Cdn (Future Shop says this is $150 off). This seems to be the Canadian equivalent of the Klipsch RC-52 II Reference Series Center Channel on Amazon.com ($369).

Anyhow, I don't have a specific problem with any of my speakers, but I honestly don't even know if the Infinity was considered a good speaker. My other speakers are all Bose (4.2's on the front and an Acoustimass - 2 satellites and a sub - on the rear - weird for rears, but got a set for next to nothing years ago). I also have a Velodyne powered sub. I've always really liked the sound from this setup... though sometimes wondered if the center channel was up to par.

I know it is recommended to have all the same speakers, but can't really look at replacing them all right now. So, stick with the Infinity centre channel or upgrade it?

This all started with me thinking of adding Klipsch reference Surround Speaker (RS400B) - Black - Single Speaker as surround left and right (my receiver can do 7.1, but I have always just had speakers for 5.1). My couch is right against a wall, so I can't move my surround backs behind (they are either side of the couch right now). They are also on sale... but then I started thinking maybe I would just upgrade my center channel.

Thoughts?
post #21162 of 35219
I would get the center channel first. Its good to have all the same series speakers but for now you will notice a huge difference. The center channel and subwoofer I think are the 2 most important pieces of a good home theater.The surrounds are the least important and should be last as an upgrade IMO. Good luck
post #21163 of 35219
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Originally Posted by HomeTheaterGuru View Post

Funny thing is that I am looking at the EXACT same system which I bought today with the 800's! I really want the new ones which are the also on sale here: http://www.radiocrafts.ca/klipsch-calgary-store.html .... going to go soon and see if I get a good deal on a 9.2 system. Also does any one know should I use the surround speakers or the bookshelf type for my 9.2 hometheater?? And speaking of balance, if you run your auto setup on your AVR it should balance the speakers for you..thats what I think. Im new to this as well! =)

Use the surround speakers on the side walls and the bookshelfs for the rear surround behind your listening position. Heres a link that will help you in placement of speakers for your setup.
http://www.thx.com/consumer/home-entertainment/home-theater/surround-sound-speaker-set-up/
post #21164 of 35219
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Originally Posted by ApOwain View Post

Hi all,

First time poster here, although I have been lurking for a little while!

I was hoping for a little bit of advice. I decided just before Christmas to go for an RF-62 II 7.1 system to upgrade from what I have currently (generic satellite 7.1 system).

I got a great boxing day price on 4 x RS-42 II surrounds and an RC-500 (Futureshop re-badged RC-52 original) center. I'm ordering an SVS PB-1000 subwoofer with the plan to purchase a second one in the future for 7.2. So I've pretty well got everything sorted but the RF-62 II mains (backwards, I know).

My AVR is a Denon 2310ci (105 watts per channel). We use the system for 80% HT use and 20% music (mainly LP/vinyl). Room size is small at approx. 1800 cubic feet. I do live in an apartment, so I don't play very loud (-20 db give or take). I don't want to totally destroy my relationship with the neighbors - wink.gif. I just want quality 7.1 sound.

I've been waiting for a good deal on some RF-62 II mains, as they're a little pricey here in Alberta, Canada (599.99 each). The RF-600 (Futureshop re-badged RF-62 original) were a little cheaper (499.99 each), but for the price difference, I've read that the newer RF-62 II are a little less bright and have a better crossover system. Admittedly, I haven't been able to tell too much of a difference in sound between the RF-62 II and RF-600/RF-62 when demo-ing in store, but that is mainly due to the fact that only Futureshop have the RF-600 (RF-62) while the other two shops in town that carry Klipsch only have the RF-62 II. So a direct comparison isn't really possible.

Now Futureshop just announced a sale on Klipsch products and the RF-600/RF-62 are now 399.99 each which isn't too bad of a price, and makes it harder to justify the higher price of the newer RF-62 II. What complicates this further is that Futureshop is also now selling RF-800 (re-badged RF-82) for 449.99 each (down from 799.99 each!). That makes the RF-800/RF-82 the best deal by far, but I'm worried that the RF-800/RF-82 mains would overpower my 4 x RS-42 II surrounds and my RC-500/RC-52 by a fair margin, and throw off the balance. I'm concerned that I would then want to upgrade the surrounds and the center pretty quickly to match, and my significant other isn't going to agree to that. She may agree to upgrading the center to an RC-62 II down the line, but there is no way she'll agree to upgrading the RS-42 II surrounds. I don't even want to have to deal with the fury I'll invoke just by *asking* about upgrading the speakers I just purchased a month ago...

So (long story short), I was wondering if anyone out there had any advice with regards to my options:

(In no particular order)
A) Wait for RF-62 II to go on sale to complete the initially planned, balanced system with the latest sound tech.
B) Purchase a pair of the older model RF-600/RF-62 to finish a balanced system for a fair bit cheaper than the more recent RF-62 II.
C) Go for the best deal and purchase the older model RF-800/RF-82 mains and just accept that the sound may not be well balanced when listening to HT.

I apologize for the long post!

Thanks in advance for any advice!

They have some good deals on Ebay for the RF62ii's. I'm not sure if they will ship to Canada or how much more you would be saving after shipping across the border. I also would wait and get the RF62ii's. In fact I own the RF52ii's now and absolutely love them. They are amazing even with 5 inch drivers
post #21165 of 35219
Thinking of selling my (2) Klipschorns. Any idea what I could ask for them?

Circa 1994 - no upgrades - very good condition
post #21166 of 35219
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

Thinking of selling my (2) Klipschorns. Any idea what I could ask for them?

Circa 1994 - no upgrades - very good condition
You might want to put out a feeler question with pictures in the Klipsch forum garage sale section.
http://community.klipsch.com/forums/74.aspx
post #21167 of 35219
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

Thinking of selling my (2) Klipschorns. Any idea what I could ask for them?

Circa 1994 - no upgrades - very good condition

without pictures... 1800-2500
post #21168 of 35219
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Originally Posted by Tasdom View Post

You might want to put out a feeler question with pictures in the Klipsch forum garage sale section.
http://community.klipsch.com/forums/74.aspx

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Originally Posted by MSchu18 View Post

without pictures... 1800-2500

Thanks guys, that's about what I thought.

Maybe you'd like to comment on my reasons for selling - I've had the K-Horns for going on 20 years now but recently upgraded my receiver and subs and have got into measuring my response with REW and am having trouble getting the K-Horns to work well in my room. Over the years, I've tried just about every configuration you can imagine and I've never found the K-Horns to be as impressive as they should be - my conclusion is that it's my room shape/size. I just can't get them to image correctly, or have decent bass in the positions they must be in for WAF. My center channel is also not up to par with the K-Horns.

So, I thought if I could sell all 3 on the used market for a decent price, I could get some new (non-corner loaded) speakers that would hopefully make me happier. Been eyeballing the Ascend Acoustics Horizon pretty hard.
post #21169 of 35219
I'm looking to finally ditch some aging Bose cubes (yeah yeah I know) that are starting to get flaky and that my wife is no longer satisfied with.

I'm really interested in the Reference line. Due to some space constraints I am limited to the RC42ii for my center and probably the RB41ii, RB51ii, or RB61ii for my mains. Obviously the 41s are going to be the best timbre match, but I am curious about whether the 41s will get the job done or if I would be better off getting the 51 or 61 as a stepping stone toward a future where I can sync up the center.

I think I saw that matthew2323 had a similar set of RB51/RC42 and hoped he'd be back to let us know how it was working out.

For context, this would be going into a family room 13'w x 18'l x 8.5' h for non-hardcore HT, gaming, and some music, with the mains along the 13' side, and connected to my Yamaha RXV2700. Currently thinking about the SW112 or the RW12d for a sub since I know the RBs will need the low-end assistance, and I will probably do RS42ii for surrounds.

So... Any thoughts about the bookshelf/center pairing would be appreciated. Wish I had room for the big stuff but it's not in the cards right now. Thanks!
post #21170 of 35219
I'm looking to upgrade my center channel - 1995 KV-4 - and can get a good deal on a RC-64 62 II from a local dealer.

In your guys' opinion, would this be a significant enough upgrade to justify the $470 + tax??

What I'm looking for mostly is a wider dispersion from my center - my current KV-4 has a very small sweet spot and getting off-axis by just 15 or so degrees really changes the tonality.
Edited by Alan P - 2/5/13 at 2:55pm
post #21171 of 35219
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

I'm looking to upgrade my center channel - 1995 KV-4 - and can get a good deal on a RC-64 II from a local dealer.

In your guys' opinion, would this be a significant enough upgrade to justify the $470 + tax??

What I'm looking for mostly is a wider dispersion from my center - my current KV-4 has a very small sweet spot and getting off-axis by just 15 or so degrees really changes the tonality.

Sure, the RC64 is a definite upgrade from the KV4 . . . And that is a great price!

But, IOU should really decide on what to do with your fronts first to match the center to the fronts since are planning to sell the K-horns. You have already found out with the KV4-Khorn mismatch, that a mismatch gets mixed results.

IMHO . . . Make your fronts decision final first, then match a center to them. You should then get the results you are looking for.
post #21172 of 35219
Well, I think I've decided to keep the K-Horns. Been getting lots of good advice here and it sounds like I would be doing myself a big disservice by losing them.

Would you consider the RC64 62 a decent match for the K-Horns? Keep in mind, I would love to go with a LaScala or similar for the center, but due to budget and WAF that just isn't going to happen.
Edited by Alan P - 2/5/13 at 2:56pm
post #21173 of 35219
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

I'm looking to upgrade my center channel - 1995 KV-4 - and can get a good deal on a RC-64 II from a local dealer.

In your guys' opinion, would this be a significant enough upgrade to justify the $470 + tax??

What I'm looking for mostly is a wider dispersion from my center - my current KV-4 has a very small sweet spot and getting off-axis by just 15 or so degrees really changes the tonality.
I'd jump on that price in a heartbeat ! that retails for $1400.oo build out the rest of the speaks from there
the sweet spot is way wider on that 64 over a KV-4 just looking at the differences in the horn shape is why , I never did figure out why Klipsch put that KV-4 horn on its end & not on it's side to widen the sweet spot .

Just seemed stupid to me when that KV-4 center 1st came out rolleyes.gif

add in that KV-4 is a AL diaphragm & the Titanium diaphragm in the 64 .
If your KV-4 is good shape you should get good coin for it , I'd sell it over at the Klipsch forums garage sale thread , they are always ppl asking for one
there have been a couple guys who got a RC62 II & liked the match to their CF-4's , So not to worry smile.gif
post #21174 of 35219
Awww, CR*P!

Sorry guys, that was a typo: the deal is on a RC62II, not the RC64 (I wish!).

Sorry for the confusion.

He did quote me $1170 on the RC64 though.


So....recommendations now that my brain is working? redface.gif
post #21175 of 35219
http://www.acousticsounddesign.com/core/view_BigProduct.cfm?pid=1938

open box same guy but on Ebay I'll bet you call you get same price

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-Speakers-RC-64ii-Center-Speaker-RC64-ii-/310563496794?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%252BP%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BIIUM%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D160953679079%26ps%3D54

there have been a lot of guys here on this thread who bought from this guy & never had a problem & he is factory authorized as well
post #21176 of 35219
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Originally Posted by Alan P View Post

Well, I think I've decided to keep the K-Horns. Been getting lots of good advice here and it sounds like I would be doing myself a big disservice by losing them.

Would you consider the RC64 a decent match for the K-Horns? Keep in mind, I would love to go with a LaScala or similar for the center, but due to budget and WAF that just isn't going to happen.
Alan glad your keeping the K-Horns I would love to have a couple of those. One of these days.....
post #21177 of 35219
Alan, a LaScala would not have to be any more expensive.....but I can't do much about the size or appearance! smile.gif

For a while, I used a KL650 between the LaScalas and it wasn't bad.
post #21178 of 35219
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

http://www.acousticsounddesign.com/core/view_BigProduct.cfm?pid=1938

open box same guy but on Ebay I'll bet you call you get same price

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-Speakers-RC-64ii-Center-Speaker-RC64-ii-/310563496794?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%252BP%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BIIUM%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D160953679079%26ps%3D54

there have been a lot of guys here on this thread who bought from this guy & never had a problem & he is factory authorized as well

Nice! 64II for $899 shipped - that's hard to resist man. Thanks! biggrin.gif
post #21179 of 35219
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

Alan glad your keeping the K-Horns I would love to have a couple of those. One of these days.....

Yeah, I'm gonna do my darndest to get them working in my room. New mic on the way for REW, acoustic panels in the works. Gonna experiment with some toe-in tonight, and if it works well I'll decouple the top-hats and rotate 'em to the best angle.
post #21180 of 35219
So Alan, didn't like my suggestion for an Academy?
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