Originally Posted by Rhetor
Alan, I have a matched set of RF82s, RS52s, and RC62 aI am selling to a guy this weekend. Because aI got a hold of some K-horns . . . They are amazing.
The setup Io am selling has been great together, but the RC62 can in now way match to K-horns . . . That is why I am selling what has been a great package including the RC62. You need to sonically match your K-horns with a center and neither the RC64 or RC62 are a perfect match . . . An RC64 probably would keep up with K-horns, but never be a perfect sonic match to the beastly K-horns.
There are some perfect sonic match ups for them though. The Heresy was built as an original true center matching K-horns, but even better yet for a center between K-horns is a La Scala or a Belle . . . And you can set your tv on either one. Used, a La Scala or a Belle is cheaper than a RC64 new. Of course, a Lone Heresy is cheaper still. (Some even successfully have used a Cornwall for a center.)
Your problem not being impressed with the K-horns is one of three things:
1. Under utilizing the K-horns to step down in DBS so you can hear the KV4 center; - all my speakers are level matched with a db meter
2. Not having true corners for the K-horns for imaging (need a true corner and seal the backs against the corner to trap the bass and for imaging); or - I have true corners, but one has a short wall to the left that is causing some issues I'm sure, but nothing I can do about it
3, Most probably, you need to recap the crossovers (old capacitors wear out, and the new ones are just better made). If you have the old "tin can" capacitors on your crossovers, it is time for a change. New capacitors would open them up if the old ones have leaked or just lost their ability to function--new ones will bring it back to spec to properly function as originally designed.) - Are there instructions anywhere on the web on how to do this?
All of this is just IMHO.
PS....the RC62 has a vinyl covering; the RC64 is real wood veneer. And the RC64 is a beast that most Reference Klipsch owner would be ecstatic to have.
Thanks for the advice, but a lot of this has already been covered.
See some of my answers above in blue
Not too sure about a Heresy or Cornwall - I've read that the match with K-Horns is not any better than an Academy or the KV-4 I currenty have, plus not very aesthetically pleasing, this is
going in my living room.
The LaScala or Belle are a more attractive oprion - perfect match, like you say, but I can't put my TV on top of either (73" DLP). Splitting one and using just the bass bin under is still a bit on the high side for my TV me thinks. I could just use the top hat from either, but wouldn't I be sacrificing a lot of mid-bass (say, versus the RC64)?
Originally Posted by Rhetor
K-horns are not meant to be toed in . . . They are destined for a true corner . . . That is when they shine.
I know that.
I was just experimenting with it to see if changing the angle of the tweeter/mid horn would change the imaging for me. If it did, I can decouple the top hats and spin them separately.
While messing around with that last night, I found that it did not really help much, if at all, with imaging at my MLP. However, I started messing a bit with the speaker distance settings in my AVR, and changing my FR speaker by 1 foot seemed to create a much better center image for me. Music was a bit more "holographic" and phantom center worked much better than before. This must have something to do with the realtion between my MLP, my room and the speakers. I realize you're not supposed to mess with the distance settings set by Audyssey, but I've read of others doing it as a last resort so thought I'd give it a shot and it seems to have worked for me.
Of course, this was late at night so I was unable to turn it up, but at lower levels it sounds really really good to my ears now. I'm a tweaker at heart though, so I'm sure I'm not done messing around with settings/placement/treatments by any stretch of the imagination.