Yes . . . Audyssey is "dumbing down" the high efficiency RFs . . . My suggestion . . . Until you get a sufficient center,at,least, is to run Audyssey with only the RFs connected. Then, reconnect the rest,and make level adjustments by ear to your liking from primary seating position. Don't bother using an spl meter, unless you already have one . . . Save your money for a center upgrade.
Audyssey is fantastic for eq'ing, but the disparity in size and differential in efficiencies of your,varied speakers just is not going to be overcome easily.
The bottomline, your quintets are no match for your Rf-62s . . . So, not enjoying the full capabilities your RF62s is the cost of an unmatched center and surrounds. You will just have to tolerate it, at least until you get a center that can keep up with the RF62s.
As well, there is not a really any sustained bass in an RF62 II; the 6.5" woofers that maybe reach down to 35hz, but only if do not have the crossover on the Denon set above that number and have the RF 62s set to Large. Ideally, for HT, you want to have a dedicated sub that goes lower, and set the RF62s to small on the Denon with the crossover point set to around 80hz.
If you really want to hear what your RF62s are capable of, put your Denon into two channel mode (not 2.1, do not include the smallish synergy 10 sub) making sure you have set the RF62s as large and a crossover point lower than 35hz, then with volume level low, put on your favorite Cd or vinyl album, and listen . . . Turning up the volume as you please. Now you will know what the RF62s are really capable of.
The problem you are experiencing is mismatched speakers. Your weakest speakers will become the primary determining factor when You run Audyseey.
You will definitely want to check out here,on AVS Forum the official Denon thread for your receiver and the official Audyseey thread as well.
Some people who upgrade only the fronts to a more powerful Klipsch speaker mistakenly think Audyseey will magically turn their smaller center, surrounds, and sub into something they are not . . . More,powerful. Audyseey is an outstanding eq'ing feature, but it automatically calculates and sets the listening for all of the speakers attached, finding the maximal setting for the weakest speaker connected, and eq'ing the more powerful speakers (most,often down), finding the maximal,setting in which the weakest speaker can find room to be heard for Ht.
With your current mismatch, your best result will be 2 channel music listening with the RF62s. For HT, you are just going to have to live with whatever result you can tolerate until you build with a matching center, then a great sub, then matching surrounds.
that is how many of us have to do it . . . Build one link in the chain at a time. The most important of all for HT, is the soundstage (two fronts and the center) where most of the HT listening is to be had. Mthen the sub, for all of those concussive explosions, then the side surrounds, and finally the rear bookshelves to catch the little nuances.
as you upgrade the center, subs, and surrounds, consider pre-owned., you can often get some great deals from people who themselves are upgrading.
All of this? just IMHO.
Congrats on your new RF62 IIs . . . A great speaker for HT!
Sorry about that . . . When you set them to large there is not crossover set . . . You aire simply going full range on the speaker.
So, you listened to an RC52, got excited and are buying an RC42, mismatching to with RB51s bookshelves (because of the footprint, which by the time you put them on speaker stands would be the same footprint as, say, RF52s), with RS42 surrounds.
And the taxes on that amount? Don't forget your governor's cut.
You asked, "Is this a good deal?" Yes, you are getting good price deal each individual speaker new (unless you are in a state where you would not have to pay taxes ordering off Amazon); but maybe you are not getting a good sound deal in the end, unless you like the end sound result of your individual speaker purchases all plugged in together. Too bad your dealer did not have all of the pieces for you to audition together. (That is why you are reading some hesitation in our responses.). But, you did ask, "Is this a good deal?"
Remember, you like hearing an RC52; you did not audition an RC42, which you desire to buy. They are not the same.
You have enough money left over in your budget to think about an RC52 and RF52 towers instead of the RC42 and RB51s.
And, if you considered used from someone else upgrading, you could get more bang for your buck.
But, it is your money, as long as you are happy with the result, we all will be happy for you, especially buying anything Klipsch to build an HT, instead of PSB mini-bookshelves.
Some of us are just suggesting you simply give a little more thought about the end result together, rather than just the price on each individual part.
I and others, I am sure, are genuinely excited for you putting your first Klipsch HT together! Like you, I discovered a great speaker forum which helped me put together my first HT. It made all of the difference in my selections and resulted in a four-year happy HT marriage until I upgraded.
All the best in your speaker quest.
Yes, but your side surrounds can be leveled down to match your front soundstage. And, you have the RF52s (not RB51s as the border411 is thinking about) for fronts. Perhaps, because of your setup in your profile, you are in a good position to advise border411 on why RF52s and an RC52 front soundstage might be a more meaningful option than that of an RC42 and RB51 bookshelves as a front soundstage.
Sounds like your mind is made up by your restrictions, then. Let us know the outcome. We are always interested in what different setups work for different people. Will look forward to a review of your new system.
