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post #21601 of 22382
3/16/13 at 1:13am
What are the best wall mounts for the RB52II? these are a bit larger bookshelf speakers. Will the mount be ok if it's just in the dry wall instead of the actual stud?

I also need to wall mount RS42II - do I just use the keyhole slot for this? How exactly does that work - what type of screws are needed? Once again is it ok screwing these into just the drywall with anchors if I can't find a stud?

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post #21602 of 22382
3/16/13 at 4:36am
You can use any kind of screw. For drywall, use a good drywall anchor (white in color that has a HUGE thread on them that you put into the sheetrock using a screwdriver). Some are rated up to 75lbs. If it is into a stud, or other wood in your wall, you can use a normal sheet rock screw, or any screw that will go into the stud at least 1 1/2"s.
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post #21603 of 22382
3/16/13 at 4:43am
Do your best to mount to a stud. Especially for long term reasons. But if its just not practical then border411 has the right idea.
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post #21604 of 22382
3/16/13 at 7:22am
Thanks! I. Hope there is a stud to make it more secure. What about the mounts for the rb52ii? The pinpoint the best option?
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post #21605 of 22382
3/16/13 at 7:39am
I went with (4) RB-61's for surrounds I found a good deal and have some mounts for them to get them up on the wall with wall plates. We will see how it goes when they get here :P
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post #21606 of 22382
3/16/13 at 9:16am
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That's the thing, I like my kb-15's but I don't love them. I'm looking for more midrange punch and warmness while still having the great highs

I'd still try and go out and listen to the reference line before you buy the bookshelf references. No doubt they'll sound different from your KB-15s, but it may not be the different that you want.
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post #21607 of 22382
3/16/13 at 6:01pm
I use these to mount my RS-62 II's. I drove them into a stud though.

http://www.hangmanstore.com/Hangman-Products-Gold-Bear-Claw-Hanger-p/bck.htm
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post #21608 of 22382
3/17/13 at 5:38am
eaux...those look awesome! I have never seen those in the store. I might have to buy some just cause!
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post #21609 of 22382
3/17/13 at 7:41am
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Thanks! I. Hope there is a stud to make it more secure. What about the mounts for the rb52ii? The pinpoint the best option?

I gather you are talking about the RS-52 and not the RB-51s, which the latter are bookshelf speakers with a rear port that you don't want flush with the wall. {Note: the RB-61s have a front port and can be close to the wall.}
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post #21610 of 22382
3/17/13 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by bosoxfan View Post

Quick question guys:

Best center channel pairing for my RF 82ii speakers?

Rc 62ii or rc 64ii?

Thanks,
Sox

 

RC62II if you never plan to upgrade your RF82II fronts.  RC64 if you plan to ever upgrade your fronts.  

 

I had RC62 with RF82s and was a perfect match and pleased me for nearly 4 years . . . Until I upgraded my fronts.  

 

Found that the RC62 just could not keep up with larger fronts.  I had to continually turn down my fronts so I could get a better balance and hear the center RC62 . . . Found I might as well have stayed with the RF82 fronts if I was not going to purchase a different center than the RC62.  That surprised me.  

 

As soon as I upgraded my fronts beyond RF82s, immediately wished I had originally purchased the RC64 when I purchased the RF82s as my fronts.  I wrongly assumed the RC62 would work well with bigger dogs someday.

 

You can always turn down an RC64 to work excellently with RF82s, but if you buy the RC62, plan to upgrade your center too, if you ever upgrade your fronts.

 

i was extremely happy with the RC62/RF82 front stage match.  ButI would definitely go RC64 if you can see yourself ever going up in the Reference line in your fronts to, say, RF7s, or a pre-owned set of RF83s or even RF63s.

 

Just a thought . . . About considering potential future upgrade when buying a center channel now.


Edited by Rhetor - 3/17/13 at 12:26pm
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post #21611 of 22382
3/17/13 at 4:39pm
Realistically, what size room would most people have that a set of RF-82's and the RC-64 couldn't handle? I own a pretty good size home and have a dedicated theater room and the 62's are more than enough. They would even be big enough for the larger areas if I needed them in those areas.

People who buy speakers like RF-7's for regular rooms are just over buying if you ask me. I guess you might need them if your home has near concert hall sized rooms but I'm sure most homes don't.
Edited by Prime316 - 3/17/13 at 4:44pm
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post #21612 of 22382
3/17/13 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by Rhetor View Post

RC62II if you never plan to upgrade your RF82II fronts.  RC64 if you plan to ever upgrade your fronts.  

I had RC62 with RF82s and was a perfect match and pleased me for nearly 4 years . . . Until I upgraded my fronts.  

Found that the RC62 just could not keep up with larger fronts.  I had to continually turn down my fronts so I could get a better balance and hear the center RC62 . . . Found I might as well have stayed with the RF82 fronts if I was not going to purchase a different center than the RC62.  That surprised me.  

As soon as I upgraded my fronts beyond RF82s, immediately wished I had originally purchased the RC64 when I purchased the RF82s as my fronts.  I wrongly assumed the RC62 would work well with bigger dogs someday.

You can always turn down an RC64 to work excellently with RF82s, but if you buy the RC62, plan to upgrade your center too, if you ever upgrade your fronts.

i was extremely happy with the RC62/RF82 front stage match.  ButI would definitely go RC64 if you can see yourself ever going up in the Reference line in your fronts to, say, RF7s, or a pre-owned set of RF83s or even RF63s.

Just a thought . . . About considering potential future upgrade when buying a center channel now.

What the hell is wrong with us?? confused.gif I'm a Klipsch noob. I have 10+ year old Cambridge Soundworks stuff that has served me well. Like everyone else, bitten by the upgrade bug. The recent upgrade list is long but for speakers I wanted to try Klipsch and was looking to upgrade the center anyway. So I bought the RC-52II just to get a taste of the "Klipsch sound". Loved it. So now I'm thinking hmmm, I'll be going all Klipsch over time, mains next. Was think the 82II's. BUT what happens then?? I'll want the RF7II's right?? So of course I bought the RC-64II center to get things rolling. eek.gifbiggrin.gif What an awesome beast. I hear every little detail loud and clear. It really is awesome. This really is a great hobby. smile.gif
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post #21613 of 22382
3/17/13 at 4:48pm
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What the hell is wrong with us?? confused.gif I'm a Klipsch noob. I have 10+ year old Cambridge Soundworks stuff that has served me well. Like everyone else, bitten by the upgrade bug. The recent upgrade list is long but for speakers I wanted to try Klipsch and was looking to upgrade the center anyway. So I bought the RC-52II just to get a taste of the "Klipsch sound". Loved it. So now I'm thinking hmmm, I'll be going all Klipsch over time, mains next. Was think the 82II's. BUT what happens then?? I'll want the RF7II's right?? So of course I bought the RC-64II center to get things rolling. eek.gifbiggrin.gif What an awesome beast. I hear every little detail loud and clear. It really is awesome. This really is a great hobby. smile.gif

If you don't mind me asking....What size is your listening area?
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post #21614 of 22382
3/17/13 at 4:56pm
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If you don't mind me asking....What size is your listening area?

Oh no problem, it's not big enough where 7's would be needed. 17X20 or so 7' ceiling. Acoustic panels on walls and ceiling.
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post #21615 of 22382
3/17/13 at 5:35pm
What in-ceiling Klipsch would sound best if I went RB51 mains and RC 42? Might go that route over RS's or smaller RB's.
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post #21616 of 22382
3/17/13 at 5:48pm


Mono bloc MC275 with Klipschorns
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post #21617 of 22382
3/17/13 at 6:14pm
Too much is not enough. Looks like my college mates setup, except he had La Scalas instead of the Klipschorns. Very nice indeed.
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post #21618 of 22382
3/17/13 at 6:19pm
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Originally Posted by Prime316 View Post

Realistically, what size room would most people have that a set of RF-82's and the RC-64 couldn't handle? I own a pretty good size home and have a dedicated theater room and the 62's are more than enough. They would even be big enough for the larger areas if I needed them in those areas.

People who buy speakers like RF-7's for regular rooms are just over buying if you ask me. I guess you might need them if your home has near concert hall sized rooms but I'm sure most homes don't.

BS!

EDIT: Anyone with RF-7s would disagree with you.
Edited by Zen Traveler - 3/17/13 at 6:25pm
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post #21619 of 22382
3/17/13 at 6:28pm
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Originally Posted by Prime316 View Post

Realistically, what size room would most people have that a set of RF-82's and the RC-64 couldn't handle? I own a pretty good size home and have a dedicated theater room and the 62's are more than enough. They would even be big enough for the larger areas if I needed them in those areas.

People who buy speakers like RF-7's for regular rooms are just over buying if you ask me. I guess you might need them if your home has near concert hall sized rooms but I'm sure most homes don't.

It's all about expectations. My Dad has 62's and thinks the same way you do.

I'm curious, do you have any experience with an RF7 based home theater? or a theater using the big horns (LS, KH)? I'm guessing not. If you heard it you wouldn't ask the question.
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post #21620 of 22382
3/17/13 at 7:20pm
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Originally Posted by Prime316 View Post

Realistically, what size room would most people have that a set of RF-82's and the RC-64 couldn't handle? I own a pretty good size home and have a dedicated theater room and the 62's are more than enough. They would even be big enough for the larger areas if I needed them in those areas.

People who buy speakers like RF-7's for regular rooms are just over buying if you ask me. I guess you might need them if your home has near concert hall sized rooms but I'm sure most homes don't.

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BS!

EDIT: Anyone with RF-7s would disagree with you.
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BS!

+1
My room is 15 x 22 with 11 ft. ceiling. Not huge by most standards but I for one would rather "over buy" than under buy. Low volume detail is equally important to me as is reference level when desired. The RF-7II's are fantastic at any volume:)
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post #21621 of 22382
3/17/13 at 7:32pm
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

BS!

EDIT: Anyone with RF-7s would disagree with you.
Of course. The RF-7s are excellent speakers but do you think that any owner would post that he wasted his money by not getting something lesser.
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post #21622 of 22382
3/17/13 at 8:08pm
The 3 RF7IIs are perfect for my room. Around 12' x 18' x 8'. Movies/music sound great. I've owned bookshelfs JBLs across the front. Aperion towers across the front 2 different models. Demoed CHASE Sho 10s. I won't upgrade again. The RF7IIs are just right. If I play low they are still crisp n clear. And if I want to go reference with them I can do that also. With the other mentioned speakers I would miss dialogue/clarity during movies and would have to rewind to catch what was said. I can honestly say for the couple of years of owning the RF7IIs I've never had to do that. No such thing as overkill...more like what you can afford biggrin.gif
Edited by Browninggold - 3/18/13 at 12:22pm
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post #21623 of 22382
3/17/13 at 9:27pm
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I gather you are talking about the RS-52 and not the RB-51s, which the latter are bookshelf speakers with a rear port that you don't want flush with the wall. {Note: the RB-61s have a front port and can be close to the wall.}
I do intend to wall mount my klipsch rb52ii. These are my rear speakers as the rs42ii are my surrounds. I plan to use the pinpoint am40 to mount the RB 52ii. These won't be flush against the wall. Any body have these mounted? Please provide feedback
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post #21624 of 22382
3/18/13 at 6:44am
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Of course. The RF-7s are excellent speakers but do you think that any owner would post that he wasted his money by not getting something lesser.

No, but alot of us will tell you if we started with the RF-7s first we wouldn't have dozens of "lessor" speakers laying around.
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post #21625 of 22382
3/18/13 at 7:18am
Most of these 'lesser' speakers are 'lesser' because RF-7's exist, not because that is the only speaker for the job. Of course people will try to justify their purchases.

Does anyone really feel that the RF-82 wasn't good enough? Of course it was until some saw the RF-7. It is a matter of wanting...I know that home theater itself is a want but my point is that we buy bigger because we can, not because we need to. People have been turning up their center channels for a while now and not just buying a new one for a little more volume.
Edited by Prime316 - 3/18/13 at 7:25am
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post #21626 of 22382
3/18/13 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by Prime316 View Post

Realistically, what size room would most people have that a set of RF-82's and the RC-64 couldn't handle? I own a pretty good size home and have a dedicated theater room and the 62's are more than enough. They would even be big enough for the larger areas if I needed them in those areas.

People who buy speakers like RF-7's for regular rooms are just over buying if you ask me. I guess you might need them if your home has near concert hall sized rooms but I'm sure most homes don't.

Prime, no doubt, you are entitled to your opinion and for the most part I agree with you. But it is all about preference. I own RF-35's and my room is 18 x 11.6 x 8. Believe me when I tell you that the RF-35's are more than enough for my room. When watching movies, the maximum I can have my volume (based off a 0-99 scale) is 65, but 50-60 is my norm. With 2 channel music listening, max is 60 and 45-50 being the norm. And when it comes to low volume listening, I still get the clarity and full range, just at a lower decibel setting.

If the RF-7 and 7II owners believe that using those speakers in their small to moderate sized rooms is justified, then so be it. And I have listened to RF-7 series speakers extensively and no doubt excellent speakers, but to me, not justified for my room size.
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post #21627 of 22382
3/18/13 at 7:57am
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... Of course people will try to justify their purchases.

It is a matter of wanting...I know that home theater itself is a want but my point is that we buy bigger because we can, not because we need to....

First: Stay in Budget and listen to several setups in that price range.
Second: To some Home Theater is a hobby and others it's something they have to enjoy.
Third: It's what you are accustomed to and "upgrading" from as to perception it must fit the cost/satisfaction ratio. {Note: Not many seem to go and listen to Home Theater anymore but back in the day when folks purchased stuff locally, we would drive around and audition speakers

Fwiw, I appreciate all aspects of multichannel material and listen to multichannel music on a nightly basis, after starting out many years ago watching concert films and movies. I suggest if "watching movies and occasionally listening to music" is what the HT is going to be used for definitely don't over-spend the budget...Otoh, if you REALLY get into music and are a critical movie watcher, then at least listen to the price point above your budget and see if your ears differentiate and justify the cost--I agree it could be significant but then I would recommend looking in the used market for upper end Klipsch. My 2 cents.
Edited by Zen Traveler - 3/18/13 at 8:25am
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post #21628 of 22382
3/18/13 at 8:18am
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Prime, no doubt, you are entitled to your opinion and for the most part I agree with you. But it is all about preference. I own RF-35's and my room is 18 x 11.6 x 8.

...If the RF-7 and 7II owners believe that using those speakers in their small to moderate sized rooms is justified, then so be it. And I have listened to RF-7 series speakers extensively and no doubt excellent speakers, but to me, not justified for my room size.

My Klipsch Library Home Theater is in about the same size room but I have a higher A-Frame ceiling for most of it. That said, I use RF-3s (comparable to your RF-35s} as side surrounds. They used to be my main speakers and there is no way they have the sound quality of the RF-7s/RC-7, but work great with my set up along with RB-75s in the rear and 2 RSW subs taking up the lower end...That said, appreciating Home Theater has been my Hobby for 13 years. In the beginning I compared speakers to the point of mania and for most of the last 8 years I consider Multichannel Music as my hobby.

I completely understand you being happy with your Klipsch Home Theater but wanted to give a second opinion on why some of us are motivated to purchase upper-end models that may not justify the cost (or time consumed comparing/auditioning) to others.
Edited by Zen Traveler - 3/18/13 at 8:26am
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post #21629 of 22382
3/18/13 at 8:46am
Have any of the Palladium owners posted here? I wonder what you RF-7ii guys think about those. Obviously they're as far removed from RF-7iis and your speakers are from my WF-35s, but I'm sure someone justified that purchase as well.
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post #21630 of 22382
3/18/13 at 8:52am
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Have any of the Palladium owners posted here? I wonder what you RF-7ii guys think about those. Obviously they're as far removed from RF-7iis and your speakers are from my WF-35s, but I'm sure someone justified that purchase as well.

Excellent point.
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