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Prime, no doubt, you are entitled to your opinion and for the most part I agree with you. But it is all about preference. I own RF-35's and my room is 18 x 11.6 x 8.

...If the RF-7 and 7II owners believe that using those speakers in their small to moderate sized rooms is justified, then so be it. And I have listened to RF-7 series speakers extensively and no doubt excellent speakers, but to me, not justified for my room size.

My Klipsch Library Home Theater is in about the same size room but I have a higher A-Frame ceiling for most of it. That said, I use RF-3s (comparable to your RF-35s} as side surrounds. They used to be my main speakers and there is no way they have the sound quality of the RF-7s/RC-7, but work great with my set up along with RB-75s in the rear and 2 RSW subs taking up the lower end...That said, appreciating Home Theater has been my Hobby for 13 years. In the beginning I compared speakers to the point of mania and for most of the last 8 years I consider Multichannel Music as my hobby.

I completely understand you being happy with your Klipsch Home Theater but wanted to give a second opinion on why some of us are motivated to purchase upper-end models that may not justify the cost (or time consumed comparing/auditioning) to others.

Zen, I appreciate your perspective. Hey, I would love to have a pair of RF-63's. As a matter of fact, there are a pair on Audiogon right now. And guess what? The seller resides in Texas! Being that I live in Delaware, according to the seller's description, shipping is not an option.frown.gif That's too bad because the asking price is ridiculously low. But here's the thing, as much as I would like to have them, because I am familiar with the difference in sound signature produced by the 3 driver array and different crossover point, the difference doesn't make me want to drive to Texas and pick them up. But, don't get it twisted, if the owner were wiling to ship, then I would consider them.
post #21632 of 35208
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Realistically, what size room would most people have that a set of RF-82's and the RC-64 couldn't handle? I own a pretty good size home and have a dedicated theater room and the 62's are more than enough. They would even be big enough for the larger areas if I needed them in those areas.

People who buy speakers like RF-7's for regular rooms are just over buying if you ask me. I guess you might need them if your home has near concert hall sized rooms but I'm sure most homes don't.

IMHO, the size of the room is only one factor for what speakers you buy. Not saying size of the room isn't important, it certainly is. I have RF-83's and an RC-64 (both I's) for my fronts and although they fill the room (20' x 20' x 9' at the peak) very well, I don't think I'd be buying overkill if I tested RF-7's and though t they sounded better. So, to me, filling the room isn't the only reason for upgrading. Better sound is also a factor - probably an even more important one..

Hello lflorack!

Wow! You have an amazing setup and room. Excellent photography also.
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Have any of the Palladium owners posted here? I wonder what you RF-7ii guys think about those. Obviously they're as far removed from RF-7iis and your speakers are from my WF-35s, but I'm sure someone justified that purchase as well.

Having been on this thread since its inception my guess is you aren't going to get a response....Let's face it when you are talking about spending that much money on a Home Theater you don't care about other people's opinion.

I also don't think there are very many of those or larger Heritage speakers sold each year recently and when you see them rarely on the used market they aren't getting near what folks paid for them.
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Hello lflorack!

Wow! You have an amazing setup and room. Excellent photography also.

Thank you for your kind words.

It has taken a while to get the system to where it is, but Ijust sit and listen to music or a good movie and smile. A lot! biggrin.gif

The pictures are a little out of date as I've added and swapped a few things since those pictures were taken. New couch and love seat, plus an upgraded receiver (now a Yamaha RX-A2010) and several other upgrades, but for the most part, it looks pretty much like the photos. As for the plants in the room, my wife gets the credit for those!

As for the pix, if you take a lot of photos, you get lucky eventually. biggrin.gif

Thanks again.
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Have any of the Palladium owners posted here? I wonder what you RF-7ii guys think about those. Obviously they're as far removed from RF-7iis and your speakers are from my WF-35s, but I'm sure someone justified that purchase as well.
I almost purchased Palladiums really the price wasn't too bad on Audiogon site. I haven't seen them in awhile on the used market. BTW I didn't pay full MSRP on my RF7IIs. Who pays MSRP. I never have even my receiver was less Denon A100 so was my Emotiva XPA3. I purchased 3 RF7IIs for less than 2 at full MSRP. Quite a bit less...
post #21636 of 35208
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Hello lflorack!

Wow! You have an amazing setup and room. Excellent photography also.

Thank you for your kind words.

It has taken a while to get the system to where it is, but Ij ust sit and listen to music or a good movie and smile. A lot! biggrin.gif

The pictures are a little out of date as I've added and swapped a few things since those pictures were taken. New couch and love seat, plus an upgraded receiver (now a Yamaha RX-A2010) and several other upgrades, but for the most part, it looks pretty much like the photos. As for the plants in the room, my wife gets the credit for those!

As for the pix, if you take a lot of photos, you get lucky eventually. biggrin.gif

Thanks again.

Unlike my room, your room is multi-purpose. On the other hand, mine is strictly MANCAVE!
In 2005, I had a Yamaha RX-V3000 AVR with my current RF-35 package. Since then, my RF-35's have had some modifications. Newer 1" titanium tweeters replaced the 1" titanium tweeters they came with, new crossovers ( new: 2000 Hz vs. old: 2600 Hz) and new feet!

I can say my 35's sound better than your average RF-35's. Before the crossover change out, the subwoofer was needed to augment the lower mid and low end range. Now, the only time I use the sub is during movie/TV watching or multi-channel music playback. The 2 channel performance has improved, meaning strong low end, and more definitive mid range. Very balanced.

Regarding your acquisition of the Aventage 2010. Congrats. That's a very nice AVR. But I do have a question about power delivery. Like most large Klipsch Reference tower speakers, they have the tendency to dip into the 3 ohm range. I know the Klipsch's are very efficient, but due to the occasional 3 ohm dip, it's best to provide them with clean current. Doing so lessens the chance for distortion in the high range, keeps the mids pronounced and accurate along with keeping the bass precise and tight . Adding external amplification has made a world of difference for my speakers. Have you ever considered adding an external amp for the fronts?
Edited by ldgibson76 - 3/19/13 at 9:01am
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I almost purchased Palladiums really the price wasn't too bad on Audiogon site. I haven't seen them in awhile on the used market. BTW I didn't pay full MSRP on my RF7IIs. Who pays MSRP. I never have even my receiver was less Denon A100 so was my Emotiva XPA3. I purchased 3 RF7IIs for less than 2 at full MSRP. Quite a bit less...

I agree. I certainly wouldn't have paid the full 1500 msrp on these WF-35s, that would've been insane. We're in the same boat when it comes to bargain shopping and deals, I guess I just haven't ever felt the need to step up to the bigger stuff.
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I hope that no one pays MSRP for anything.
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Unlike my room, your room is multi-purpose. On the other hand, mine is strictly MANCAVE!
In 2005, I had a Yamaha RX-V3000 AVR with my current RF-35 package. Since then, my RF-35's have had some modifications. New 1.25" titanium tweeters replaced the 1" titanium tweeters, new crossovers ( new: 1800 Hz vs. old: 2600 Hz) and new feet!

I can say my 35's sound better than your average RF-35's. Before the crossover change out, the subwoofer was needed to augment the lower mid and low end range. Now, the only time I use the sub is during movie/TV watching or multi-channel music playback. The 2 channel performance has improved, meaning strong low end, and more definitive mid range. Very balanced.

Regarding your acquisition of the Aventage 2010. Congrats. That's a very nice AVR. But I do have a question about power delivery. Like most large Klipsch Reference tower speakers, they have the tendency to dip into the 3 ohm range. I know the Klipsch's are very efficient, but due to the occasional 3 ohm dip, it's best to provide them with clean current. Doing so lessens the chance for distortion in the high range, keeps the mids pronounced and accurate along with keeping the bass precise and tight . Adding external amplification has made a world of difference for my speakers. Have you ever considered adding an external amp for the fronts?

It sounds like your speaker modifications made them much better. Yes, my room is definitely multi-purpose.

The reasons for upgrading the receiver were; additional HDMI connections; interenet capabilities and last but not least, more cleaner power. The RX-A2010 has seperate amps and 140 watts/channel vs my previous Yamaha (can't remember what model) with 90 watts/channel and not seperate amps. Even that relatively small change made the RF-83's sound much better. I am aware of the 'ohm dips' with the 83's and I have been shopping amps for a while now too but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Maybe next year when the "fun budget" hasn't been abused so much. smile.gif
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And we wonder why privately owned (small) A/V shops are going the way of the do-do bird! What's considered an acceptable percentage off of MSRP?! The mind set seems to be, "get as much as you can for as little as you can." I have nothing against the concept, but a lot of times, that comes at a cost. When customer service is needed to address and resolve your issue, it usually results in a complaint about the quality and the manner in which the matter was handled. This is all mute if you come to expect nothing in return for your substantial discount other than a cheaper price.

When I purchased my WF-35's from NewEgg.com, like most know, they were selling at over 60% off list. Now, if something were to go wrong (damage, malfunction, defect,.... thankfully it didn't), my expectation of how it would be resolved is commensurable to what I paid for the product. I wouldn't be surprised by the amount of redtape I would have to navigate thru in order to get resolution. Please forgive my rant.redface.gif
Edited by ldgibson76 - 3/18/13 at 2:14pm
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Unlike my room, your room is multi-purpose. On the other hand, mine is strictly MANCAVE!
In 2005, I had a Yamaha RX-V3000 AVR with my current RF-35 package. Since then, my RF-35's have had some modifications. Newer 1" titanium tweeters replaced the 1" titanium tweeters they came with, new crossovers ( new: 2000 Hz vs. old: 2600 Hz) and new feet!

I can say my 35's sound better than your average RF-35's. Before the crossover change out, the subwoofer was needed to augment the lower mid and low end range. Now, the only time I use the sub is during movie/TV watching or multi-channel music playback. The 2 channel performance has improved, meaning stronger low end, and more definitive mid range. Very balanced.

Regarding your acquisition of the Aventage 2010. Congrats. That's a very nice AVR. But I do have a question about power delivery. Like most large Klipsch Reference tower speakers, they have the tendency to dip into the 3 ohm range. I know the Klipsch's are very efficient, but due to the occasional 3 ohm dip, it's best to provide them with clean current. Doing so lessens the chance for distortion in the high range, keeps the mids pronounced and accurate along with keeping the bass precise and tight . Adding external amplification has made a world of difference for my speakers. Have you ever considered adding an external amp for the fronts?

It sounds like your speaker modifications made them much better. Yes, my room is definitely multi-purpose.

The reasons for upgrading the receiver were; additional HDMI connections; interenet capabilities and last but not least, more cleaner power. The RX-A2010 has seperate amps and 140 watts/channel vs my previous Yamaha (can't remember what model) with 90 watts/channel and not seperate amps. Even that relatively small change made the RF-83's sound much better. I am aware of the 'ohm dips' with the 83's and I have been shopping amps for a while now too but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Maybe next year when the "fun budget" hasn't been abused so much. smile.gif

Tell me about it! The expenses of life has a way of keeping things in perspective. I just replaced a water heater last week! There went the "FUN" money! mad.gif

I have to say that providing dedicated power to the 83's will substantially change it's response. You noticed a difference going to the 2010,.... imagine with, let's say, 200 clean watts, the difference will blow your mind. Many RF-83 owners who have added that type of power have expressed in various forums/threads the marked improvement.

I noticed in your rack, you have a vintage Yammie CD Changer, the CDC-685 I presume?!biggrin.gif I know the model very well. I have one sitting in the closest with other retired devices I've yet to unload. How do you like the Oppo-BDP-103 or is that the 93? I've been considering consolidating 3 of my devices and acquiring the Oppo BDP-105. It would replace my beloved Denon DVD-3930CI (SACD/DVD-A, CD playback), the Sony BDP-S5000ES blu-rray player and my PS Audio Digital Link III DAC. I love all three of the devices but, because of the 105's spec listing and feature set, it seems that it would not only provide me with superior performance equivalent in worst case, but also 3D capability, and dual HDMI outs for my future front projector aspirations all in one device. I have been a dye in the wool firm believer in the "one device, one function" philosophy, but the Oppo-BDP-105 has slowly (going down kicking and screaming biggrin.gif) made me consider the "one device can do all" concept. The white paper on this device is insane. A signal to noise ratio of 130dB!eek.gif The Denon's, 120 dB. Dynamic range is the same but all in all, the Oppo is state of the art. I can't believe I'm admitting that! Even if there's little or no improvement in performance over the current configuration, I will still benefit from the consolidation. Streamlining can be a good thing.wink.gif
Edited by ldgibson76 - 3/19/13 at 9:01am
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And we wonder why privately owned (small) A/V shops are going the way of the do-do bird! What's considered an acceptable percentage off of MSRP?! The mind set seems to be, "get as much as you can for as little as you can." I have nothing against the concept, but a lot of times, that comes at a cost....

I have discussed this on this thread as well as others and have come to the conclusion that more and more people are buying their speakers online without ever listening to them. They rely on feedback from owners and even those that audition locally would be remiss in not knowing what the delivered price of any of the speakers would cost online--THAT is what price speakers sell for and MSRP is moot.

The catch-22 is if you get the speakers home and don't like them, returning/exchanging them is more *interesting* but if something goes wrong and they are an authorized distributor Klipsch will take care of CS.
post #21643 of 35208
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It sounds like your speaker modifications made them much better. Yes, my room is definitely multi-purpose.

The reasons for upgrading the receiver were; additional HDMI connections; interenet capabilities and last but not least, more cleaner power. The RX-A2010 has seperate amps and 140 watts/channel vs my previous Yamaha (can't remember what model) with 90 watts/channel and not seperate amps. Even that relatively small change made the RF-83's sound much better. I am aware of the 'ohm dips' with the 83's and I have been shopping amps for a while now too but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Maybe next year when the "fun budget" hasn't been abused so much. smile.gif

The Anthem MCA's are nice products but what I would really like to get if I did secure a pair of RF-63's is the Parasound Halo A21 Stereo Amp to push them. Talk about clean power!!!! The thresholds are mind-boggling on that Beast!
post #21644 of 35208
I've got nothing to add, but it is nice to have some interesting conversation on the thread! smile.gif
post #21645 of 35208
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And we wonder why privately owned (small) A/V shops are going the way of the do-do bird! What's considered an acceptable percentage off of MSRP?! The mind set seems to be, "get as much as you can for as little as you can." I have nothing against the concept, but a lot of times, that comes at a cost....

I have discussed this on this thread as well as others and have come to the conclusion that more and more people are buying their speakers online without ever listening to them. They rely on feedback from owners and even those that audition locally would be remiss in not knowing what the delivered price of any of the speakers would cost online--THAT is what price speakers sell for and MSRP is moot.

The catch-22 is if you get the speakers home and don't like them, returning/exchanging them is more *interesting* but if something goes wrong and they are an authorized distributor Klipsch will take care of CS.

But Zen, even then, it can be an adventure. NewEgg is an authorized Klipsch dealer. But the hassle of having to ship them back is torturous at best. There's just a level of security that can't be matched when there's an establishment you can walk into, not only see the individual(s), but also talk face to face. It doesn't insure that the issue will be resolved to your satisfaction, but it beats emailing back and forth or a conversation over the phone with someone who's lacks intimate knowledge of the transaction. But that's just me. .

Don't get me wrong, I'll purchase goods of the world wide web like the next man, but I also recognize that when it's that impersonal, I make room for impersonal resolution if in fact, an issue arises.
post #21646 of 35208
I've had outstanding return experiences with Acoustic Sound Design. Better than any brick and mortar audio store. Let's face it, most any audio store I've been in has had an elitest air about them. I've had some difficult return experiences with them too.
post #21647 of 35208
Buying HT gear online doesn't mean you'll get bad customer service. I recently bought some "open box" speakers from A4L, and one of the speakers was defective. After a couple of emails with someone from their support staff, a replacement speaker was on its way. They included a prepaid label to ship the defective speaker back to them. They were pleasant, and it was resolved quickly. Can't ask for much more than that.
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I have discussed this on this thread as well as others and have come to the conclusion that more and more people are buying their speakers online without ever listening to them. They rely on feedback from owners and even those that audition locally would be remiss in not knowing what the delivered price of any of the speakers would cost online--THAT is what price speakers sell for and MSRP is moot.

The catch-22 is if you get the speakers home and don't like them, returning/exchanging them is more *interesting* but if something goes wrong and they are an authorized distributor Klipsch will take care of CS.

When I went to an audio shop, the big money maker wasn't in the equipment but in the full service package. Both of the ones I went to had full installation services with all kinds of custom contractor work they were capable of. This is all home theater related of course but even some die hard audio guys are switching to the digital age. Also, they really REALLY want you to buy some $400 a foot cable in both the places I was in, to the point of saying that the CABLE makes the most difference in sound.. yeah..
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Fellas, by no means am I advocating that Brick and Mortar shops are the second coming. No doubt, many are to blame for their demise. But I do know that for as many positive experiences that are documented in this thread during this discussion, the bad experiences documented or not, far exceeds the positive. Yes, there are gleaming examples: A4L, Crutchfield, Audio Advisor, AV Science, Acoustic Sound Design, Emotiva, Oppo, etc,..... Those are proven e-tailers. Their business model has shown that online purchasing can be an exceedingly positive experience. All I can say is that I have an establish rapport with the dealer in my area. They are well established and been around a long time and have been able to maintain their foothold on the market. For my big audio purchases, i will seek them out first. They have always been fair and prices, more than competitive.
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...But the hassle of having to ship them back is torturous at best. There's just a level of security that can't be matched when there's an establishment you can walk into, not only see the individual(s), but also talk face to face. It doesn't insure that the issue will be resolved to your satisfaction, but it beats emailing back and forth or a conversation over the phone with someone who's lacks intimate knowledge of the transaction. But that's just me....

I'm not disagreeing, but am saying that the places to demo speakers is getting smaller and smaller...For the record, I own several dozen Klipsch speakers and all were purchased locally...That said, my guess is that Klipsch Business Model is changing and one just needs to look at the responses on this thread over the last 3 years to see that is true and that most people have purchased these speakers online.
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I also noticed a sonic improvement with my RF-5s, RC-7 and RS-7s when I added a Rotel RMB-1095 with 200 watts per channel, huge transformers and tons of capacitance. No substitute for more power as Tim Thomas used to say.
Edited by RickD1225 - 3/19/13 at 6:32am
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...All I can say is that I have an establish rapport with the dealer in my area. They are well established and been around a long time and have been able to maintain their foothold on the market. For my big audio purchases, i will seek them out first. They have always been fair and prices, more than competitive.

I can totally dig this concept, but out of the 6 to 10 local stores I've purchased the vast majority of my gear, NONE except BBY are still in business (various Tweeters, Ultimate Electronics, etc).
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Realistically, what size room would most people have that a set of RF-82's and the RC-64 couldn't handle? I own a pretty good size home and have a dedicated theater room and the 62's are more than enough. They would even be big enough for the larger areas if I needed them in those areas.

People who buy speakers like RF-7's for regular rooms are just over buying if you ask me. I guess you might need them if your home has near concert hall sized rooms but I'm sure most homes don't.

 

I love all Klipsch speakers, from Promedia 2.1, to Quintets, to Synergy line, to RC42s, Rs42s, RF82s, all the way up to Heritage line to Klipschorns.  (I would add Jubilees and Palladiums, but never heard personally heard or owned either. Given a chance and the budget and a wife who said, "yes" I would have some of each.)

 

I simply love the Klipsch sound in every form and the company behind the product.

 

There is no such thing as "overbuying" unless you are talking milk and bread away from your children . . . "Overbuying" has nothing to do with speaker size; it has everything to do with budget.  As a general rule with Klipsch, and there are exceptions based on an individual hearing preference, the more a Klipsch speaker cost, the more increase in efficiency and sound quality, At Lower Volume, Not just for an increase in power.   It is the greatest audible clarity that pleases me most, not the volume the speakers are capable of.  

 

I overbuy for the clarity factor and only what I can afford as a hobbiest, but without ever spending money earmarked for family necessity.  The size of my room is not even remotely a determining factor except in physical limitation of maintaining some adequate seating.  The spare cash and my personal choice on what to,spend of it n speakers dictates my limit.

 

I encourage anyone who desires more clarity to overbuy for better sound quality, if that is what interests you.  If that is not your desire, no need to disparage others of their personal choices.  

 

Buy the biggest speakers you can afford that match your budget and interests.  Celebrate the choices others make, because everyone has limits in budget or limits,in interest.  Many who can afford Palladiums do not buy them out of choice, giving other hobbies priorities. For some, a they are stretching themselves responsibly to their limit purchasing a Promedia 2.1 setup, upgrading from generic computer speakers.  And we each should celebrate that person's shared Klipsch passion as equally as a person buying Palladiums.

 

We share an interest in speakers with a Klipsch logo . . . And they are all great, and we should celebrate one another's choices when purchased within tone's own budget . . .

 

IMHO, there is no such thing as "overbuying" in a hobby unless you are buying speakers (or any hobbiest materials) instead of the necessities for those under your care.

 

Just my 2 cents. 

 

PS:  In that sense, since all TVs come with at least one built in speaker, no matter how anemic and tinny, purchasing anything HT, even two small bookshelves to enhance the sound is "overbuying!"  Since a TV is not a necessity, even spending dollars on a TV itself is "overbuying."   Nobody "NEEDS" a TV or any HT additions no matter what the size.


Edited by Rhetor - 3/19/13 at 11:57am
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^^^ Good post. Too bad it was done in invisble ink. biggrin.gif

Edit: I'm not crazy. Post has since been fixed
Edited by electricmanscott - 3/19/13 at 4:40am
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Tell me about it! The expenses of life has a way of keeping things in perspective. I just replaced a water heater last week! There went the "FUN" money! mad.gif

I have to say that providing dedicated power to the 83's will substantially change it's response. You noticed a difference going to the 2010,.... imagine with, let's say, 200 clean watts, the difference will blow your mind. Many RF-83 owners who have added that type of power have expressed in various forums/threads the marked improvement.

I noticed in your rack, you have a vintage Yammie CD Changer, the CDC-685 I presume?!biggrin.gif I know the model very well. I have one sitting in the closest with other retired devices I've yet to unload. How do you like the Oppo-BDP-103 or is that the 93? I've been considering consolidating 3 of my devices and acquiring the Oppo BDP-105. It would replace my beloved Denon DVD-3930CI (SACD/DVD-A, CD playback), the Sony BDP-S5000ES blu-rray player and my PS Audio Digital Link III DAC. I love all three of the devices but, because of the 105's spec listing and feature set, it seems that it would not only provide me with superior performance equivalent in worst case, but also 3D capability, and dual HDMI outs for my future front projector aspirations all in one device. I have been a dye in the wool firm believer in the "one device, one function" philosophy, but the Oppo-BDP-105 has slowly (going down kicking and screaming biggrin.gif) made me consider the "one device can do all" concept. The white paper on this device is insane. A signal to noise ratio of 130dB!eek.gif The Denon's, 120 dB. Dynamic range is the same but all in all, the Oppo is state of the art. I can't believe I'm admitting that! Even if there's little or no improvement in performance over the current configuration, I will still benefit from the consolidation. Streamlining can be a good thing.wink.gif

Yes, it's a Yamaha CDC-685. I could use the Oppo (it's a BDP-93) to play CD's but I like the 5-disk convenience -- along with the great sound relative to streaming. If it's just background music, streaming is fine. But when I sit down to really listen, I love being able to play discs. The Oppo does come in handy for DVD A's and SACD -- and of course DVD and BluRay. The Oppo is a very fine machine. It's multi-format capabilities, quality build and excellent output make it a good purchase. The 105 ids even a better unit -- as I'm sure you know. Get the Oppo. You'll be thrilled.
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The Anthem MCA's are nice products but what I would really like to get if I did secure a pair of RF-63's is the Parasound Halo A21 Stereo Amp to push them. Talk about clean power!!!! The thresholds are mind-boggling on that Beast!

Thanks for the tip.
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And we wonder why privately owned (small) A/V shops are going the way of the do-do bird! What's considered an acceptable percentage off of MSRP?! The mind set seems to be, "get as much as you can for as little as you can." I have nothing against the concept, but a lot of times, that comes at a cost. When customer service is needed to address and resolve your issue, it usually results in a complaint about the quality and the manner in which the matter was handled. This is all mute if you come to expect nothing in return for your substantial discount other than a cheaper price.

When I purchased my WF-35's from NewEgg.com, like most know, they were selling at over 60% off list. Now, if something were to go wrong (damage, malfunction, defect,.... thankfully it didn't), my expectation of how it would be resolved is commensurable to what I paid for the product. I wouldn't be surprised by the amount of redtape I would have to navigate thru in order to get resolution. Please forgive my rant.redface.gif

I purchased from a A/V brick and Mortar store and Authorized Klipsch dealer. 3 RF7IIs shipped to me for 27 Benjamin's
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I purchased from a A/V brick and Mortar store and Authorized Klipsch dealer. 3 RF7IIs shipped to me for 27 Benjamin's
I got 2 brand new Icon VF-36s for $350. Equalized them with the 7 band graphic eq built into my Yamaha 671 AVR and couldnt be happier. smile.gif
Oh. And I have a Bic PL26 center and have no problems with dialog or clarity at low volume.
Edited by Bond 007 - 3/18/13 at 7:52pm
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Had some guests over today and got to demo some movies. Still puts a smile on my face. That's what it's all about right? Also a bit of showing off to the lesser audio people. wink.gif
post #21660 of 35208
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

I do intend to wall mount my klipsch rb52ii. These are my rear speakers as the rs42ii are my surrounds. I plan to use the pinpoint am40 to mount the RB 52ii. These won't be flush against the wall. Any body have these mounted? Please provide feedback

Feedback wanted on mounting my rb51ii to the wall... I intend to use pinpoint am40
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