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Well got my klipsch wf35 three weeks ago loved them. plan on getting a matching set of wf35s for rears and matching center. But now for the bad had the the wfs hooked up for two weeks before my old onkyo took a crap. So now i need anther receiver nothing crazy i would like 7.2 in case i ever want to go bigger, but i would like to spend no more then 500. Any suggestions?
Pioneer SC-1222-K off the newegg sale? It's even got 7.2 channel out and Pioneer's room correction software.
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There is no such thing as "overbuying" unless you are talking milk and bread away from your children . . . "Overbuying" has nothing to do with speaker size; it has everything to do with budget. As a general rule with Klipsch, and there are exceptions based on an individual hearing preference, the more a Klipsch speaker cost, the more increase in efficiency and sound quality, At Lower Volume, Not just for an increase in power. It is the greatest audible clarity that pleases me most, not the volume the speakers are capable of.
I think this is an interesting point and frankly, I wonder if a larger point is being missed here (not necessarily by Rhetor but on the thread in general....you're going to love where I'm going with this)
I was at a Klipsch gathering at Hope long ago. One thing I got to do was hear the huge K402 and the smaller K510 horn on the Jubilee bass bin while inside their anechoic chamber. (arriving a day early had its benefits)
Listening to these two setups inside the chamber, I was able to finally understand one of the big benefits of a bigger horn...... control of the sound.
To put it bluntly, the larger the horn the more control over the sound it had and the less spillage of sound behind the speaker. So what? Well, think about it.... the more you project the sound where you want it, the less you have the sound where you don't want it. By controlling it better, you minimize some of the reflections that you don't want....ultimately you might have a better sonic starting point.
I've come to understand that in the world of horns, bigger really is better.
So there you go....now everyone here has a good reason to upsize to the next size and justify it to the wife.
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I think this is an interesting point and frankly, I wonder if a larger point is being missed here (not necessarily by Rhetor but on the thread in general....you're going to love where I'm going with this)
I was at a Klipsch gathering at Hope long ago. One thing I got to do was hear the huge K402 and the smaller K510 horn on the Jubilee bass bin while inside their anechoic chamber. (arriving a day early had its benefits)
Listening to these two setups inside the chamber, I was able to finally understand one of the big benefits of a bigger horn...... control of the sound.
To put it bluntly, the larger the horn the more control over the sound it had and the less spillage of sound behind the speaker. So what? Well, think about it.... the more you project the sound where you want it, the less you have the sound where you don't want it. By controlling it better, you minimize some of the reflections that you don't want....ultimately you might have a better sonic starting point.
I've come to understand that in the world of horns, bigger really is better.
So there you go....now everyone here has a good reason to upsize to the next size and justify it to the wife.
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Nice point, Coytee . . . Going to print up your post and your pic, and post them together above my home computer . . . For every time my lovely wife asks, "Now, Honey, why do you need bigger speakers again?" Just going to point to your post! 

Well got my klipsch wf35 three weeks ago loved them. plan on getting a matching set of wf35s for rears and matching center. But now for the bad had the the wfs hooked up for two weeks before my old onkyo took a crap. So now i need anther receiver nothing crazy i would like 7.2 in case i ever want to go bigger, but i would like to spend no more then 500. Any suggestions?
Think about buying pre-owned . . . You can often get a steal of a deal from someone itching to upgrade to the latest and greatest AVR and wind up with a newish AVR (maybe with even some warranty left) with a lot more bells and whistles than what you might get price-wise for a NIB.
Just a thought.
My klipsch dealer actually had 4 new 8" drivers, but 2 came damaged. After many calls to his supplier he found that the only replacements left as new were some rare handmade pro series drivers. My fantastic dealer is sending me these at a loss in money. However he found that the drivers are 4 ohms not 8 like the speakers are set up for. I'm guessing my klipsch dealer and the warehouse guy got into a little dispute over this. At any rate the speakers looked like a great deal. My question is how can I make them work. I have an Nad amp that can play 8 or 4 ohm speakers but I will have a 8 ohm tweeter. I recently upgraded the tweeter to titanium bob crites tweeters and upgraded my crossovers with bob crites upgrade caps
I mean I can always throw the wc-24 in the bedroom and such, thanks for any help.
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so I have the wc-24 center and was about to buy the wf-35's when I see they're discontinued on Newegg now (who knows if they'll be back I guess)... Can anything pair moderately well with the WC-24? maybe some Martin Logan 12's?
I mean I can always throw the wc-24 in the bedroom and such, thanks for any help.
or possiibly sell the center to me cheap lol i know you can get the wfs on amazon but the price seem to really go up.

so I have the wc-24 center and was about to buy the wf-35's when I see they're discontinued on Newegg now (who knows if they'll be back I guess)... Can anything pair moderately well with the WC-24? maybe some Martin Logan 12's?
I mean I can always throw the wc-24 in the bedroom and such, thanks for any help.
I haven't thought of trying this, but maybe 2 more WC-24s in vertical orientation? This is probably breaking all kinds of speaker laws though..
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I have a rather perplexing problem. Rebuilding a pair of Klipsch KG4's
My klipsch dealer actually had 4 new 8" drivers, but 2 came damaged. After many calls to his supplier he found that the only replacements left as new were some rare handmade pro series drivers. My fantastic dealer is sending me these at a loss in money. However he found that the drivers are 4 ohms not 8 like the speakers are set up for. I'm guessing my klipsch dealer and the warehouse guy got into a little dispute over this. At any rate the speakers looked like a great deal. My question is how can I make them work. I have an Nad amp that can play 8 or 4 ohm speakers but I will have a 8 ohm tweeter. I recently upgraded the tweeter to titanium bob crites tweeters and upgraded my crossovers with bob crites upgrade caps


I have a rather perplexing problem. Rebuilding a pair of Klipsch KG4's
My klipsch dealer actually had 4 new 8" drivers, but 2 came damaged. After many calls to his supplier he found that the only replacements left as new were some rare handmade pro series drivers. My fantastic dealer is sending me these at a loss in money. However he found that the drivers are 4 ohms not 8 like the speakers are set up for. I'm guessing my klipsch dealer and the warehouse guy got into a little dispute over this. At any rate the speakers looked like a great deal. My question is how can I make them work. I have an Nad amp that can play 8 or 4 ohm speakers but I will have a 8 ohm tweeter. I recently upgraded the tweeter to titanium bob crites tweeters and upgraded my crossovers with bob crites upgrade caps
I am sure you dealer is a great guy. But have you called Klipsch directly yourself to see if they have any NOS parts, 8" 8 ohm drivers for KG4s?
You would be surprised,what Klipsch has on hand sometimes when needing a part for an older discontinued speaker. Then, there is always pre-owned parts on eBay. But one direct phone call to Klipsch parts might work out for you.
heh probably not worth it, but I guess you never know
anyone know if newegg is ever getting wf-35's back or is the Discontinued of death stamp the final death knell?
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Very true. I didn't mention that I use my home theater for 95% movies so the RS' would definitely be better.
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This topic has been discussed on this thread several times...Fwiw, I prefer direct radiating speakers pointing to my limited LP converting 5.1 to "7.1" and having the AVR matrix the surrounds and rear--This way you have sound coming towards your MLP from 4 different directions than away from you from 2. I will agree for music it is better in this configuration and for movies it depends on seating, but more than likely would be a wash.
It depends a lot on placement/distance from the listening position. I have only 2-3' from my couch to the surround speakers. I had RB's earlier and moved to RS 52ii; RS made a huge difference while watching movies.
For music, I was always on 2 ch mode and it didn't matter much
so after waf i am ready for the klf 30 s ,found a few within 500 - 1400 miles and i am looking forward to change my rf-82 s and rc 62 .
was wondering should i keep my rs 52 s or what are you guys using with the legends and heritage series for surrounds?
i heard and read of people using klf-10 and kg .5 with the klf 30 s as surrounds .
i will also be hunting down a klf c7 wich are easier to get .
so a few questions i know how sensitive these are i am running an onkyo tx-nr818 is that good enough?
i know tubes sounds best with these .
also is changing the tweeters to bob crites titanium that crucial ? or original ok
crites xrossovers are expesive and don't change the sound and not worth it ?
sorry bout being long winded ...
the price of klf 30 and klf c7 are 800-900$ together.
thank you
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What I'm about to write could probably be filed under the "happy camper" category, with a sub-heading of "preaching to the choir"... but since this forum is primarily made up of Klipsch-lovers -- new and old -- I thought it couldn't hurt to pass along my most recent "horny" love story.
For some contextual background perspective, you should know that I'm not a high-end, nit-picky, state-of-the-state-of-the-art, price-is-no-object, replace-my-entire-home-theater-setup-every-year audio engineer. I'm just an average ex-middle-income retired guy, with a life-long love of music and film, and a commensurately strong desire to have the most accurate sound-production equipment available for purchase, by someone on a relatively limited budget.
Twelve years ago, I combined a 5.1 set of Klipsch Synergy speakers (SF-2 fronts, SC-1 center, SS-1 surrounds, and KSW-12 subwoofer) with a new Yamaha receiver (can't recall which one), and a 36" Toshiba CRT TV.
Coming from a 19" CRT and some lower-middle-end Infinity speakers, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.
Four years later, I upgraded to a 100-watt/channel Yamaha RX-V750, which made things even better.
During all of those years, I was living in a fairly small apartment, and this system was far more than adequate. So when Klipsch came out with the SF-3's -- which were only produced from 2003 to 2004 -- I felt that my living space did not warrant speakers that large, and chose not to upgrade to them... even though I realized that because their woofers were constructed with the same material that was used in my other Synergys' woofers, along with an improvement in sound quality, they would be an acoustically seamless match with the rest of my set.
Having retired four years ago, however, owning my own, much larger home has caused me to occasionally search for a "like-new" used pair of the SF-3's. But I never found any that suited my requirements. And quite honestly -- considering how well I've cared for the Synergys I already have (and love) -- I really didn't want a used set, anyway. So it was purely on a whim that I happened to search eBay last week, and discovered an ad for a pair of new ones, in their original, unopened boxes!
Needless to say, I was skeptical about their "newness". It just seemed so incredibly unlikely that any dealer, anywhere, would have a brand-new, never-sold pair of nine-year-old SF-3's sitting around, still in their never-opened boxes. I honestly halfway expected them to end up being "refurbished"... even though the ad clearly stated that they were "new". What convinced me to make the purchase -- at the risk of having to pay $100 to ship them back -- was the dealer's 99.6% positive eBay rating, with almost 8,200 sales. I simply felt this was an opportunity I could not afford to pass up.
And... I cannot begin to express how happy I am that I didn't!
I consider myself to be a major film-buff (in 2009, I upgraded to a 58" non-3D Samsung B860 HD plasma), so the need for a seriously-good surround system is very important to me.
But "purity" of music reproduction is even more important. And even though I do listen to a fair amount of contemporary "popular" music, my primary musical leanings are classical and jazz... so being able to distinguish the subtleties of individual instrumental intonation is critical. Also, when I listen to music... I do nothing else. At the ripe old age of eight, I was trained to sit still, with closed eyes, and allow the music I was hearing to sweep me away. As such, that's almost the only way I can listen to it. And... I'm an old-fashioned "purist". I only listen to music or watch films from "shiny discs". No MP3 files or Internet streaming whatsoever... and I never watch films on TV.
So from that perspective, even though I have been very content and pleased with the audio performance of my aging Synergy speaker system -- and the SF-2's in particular -- I've always felt that there was some room for improvement. Two months ago, I added a Yamaha RX-A2010 AVR and an Oppo BDP-103 Blu-ray player to the mix -- which definitely upped the performance ante -- but the Klipsch SF-3's are the ingredient that has completely fulfilled that notion.
The day before yesterday, I spent several hours listening to a very wide variety of my favorite jazz and classical pieces. At first, I was concentrating on trying to detect the "differences" in the way the SF-3's sounded to me, compared to the SF-2's. But finally, at one point, I realized that for nearly an hour, I had been listening to nothing but the music, and the instruments themselves. I had completely forgotten that I was listening to the music through speakers!
My conclusion?....
Even though I had had them for less than one day (and yes, by the way, they actually are never-before-opened, brand new!), I could honestly say that for the first time in my life, I have speakers that -- for me, at least -- completely "disappear".
It simply does not get any better than that.
And that, I guess, is the whole point to this seemingly interminable ramble. I fully realize that there are a huge number of speakers out there -- Klipsch and others -- that are "better" and more accurate than these "outdated" Synergys. Obviously, I could spend hundreds (or thousands) on upgrading to Klipsch (or other) "Reference"-level speakers.
But at the end of the day, for those of us who are living on real-world, average incomes, what it comes down to, is whether or not these realistically-affordable, "non-ultimate" sound- and video-systems can effectively take us to those realms of imagination that are the province of music and film, without also interventionally and distractingly imposing their own physical identities on our perceptions.
Amazingly... I've discovered that they can.
nice post, B 26354 . . . A nice reminder that what pleases each of us is often different . . . Glad for you that you have found your sonic nirvana in NOS synergies.
There are no bad Klipsch speakers, because there is always someone who will find something in one of the lines which thrills them. Congrats on finding your match.
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If you haven't yet, take a look at the Anthem Integrated 225. It's received rave reviews. Here's a link to a glowing review by Digital Trends.com./Anthem Integrated 225
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