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post #21901 of 35360
I have an RF-82 with no sound coming from the tweeter. I just received my pair of PSA XV15's and while I was performing an Audyssey calibration I noticed the tweeter on my right front speaker was cutting in and out. By the time I finished the calibration, there was no sound at all coming from the tweeter. I have confirmed that the jumpers are in between the posts (the cable is plugged into the top posts anyway). I also tried using the front left signal into this speaker to make sure it wasn't something funky on my receiver and no change.

Is there anything else I could try before contacting Klipsch? I believe it is under warranty, but the thought of having to ship out a giant speaker is a little daunting.
post #21902 of 35360
You could try removing the tweeter to see if there is a loose wire, but beyond that there's not much else you can do.
post #21903 of 35360
post #21904 of 35360
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Originally Posted by eaux View Post

Just curious, how does the 83 compare to the 7 II?

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I own the original RF-7/RC-7 and wanted to like the RF-83/RC-64 but felt they were warmer and the highs not as crisp and clean as what I have after auditioning the latter. That said I haven't heard the RF-7IIs.
post #21905 of 35360
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Originally Posted by eaux View Post


I read that Klipsch has mitigated the HF fatiguing problem with the Mark II series, so I thought more people would prefer the Mk II instead. Didn't know people were buying up the original series for the sound when they were discontinued.

Fwiw, my guess is there isn't much difference in the lower end Reference models. When they first got introduced a person came on this thread who wanted RF-62s across the front after purchasing the originals and they sent him a RF-62II instead--Klipsch CS told him that he shouldn't notice any difference in his front souindstage and he reported back that it matched seamlessly.
post #21906 of 35360
the only fatigue issue I know of with horns are those of an improperly set up Speaker system.
post #21907 of 35360
Does anyone know of any in-wall speakers that would suit well, as surrounds and surround backs, with a set of WF-35s and a WC-24 as the front stage? Anyone have any experience with a setup similar to this?
post #21908 of 35360
^^^^

Don't forget to re-run Audyssey. Congrats!
post #21909 of 35360
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Originally Posted by dmcdayton View Post

RF 62 Fronts and RC 52 Center arrived and installed.

-The Klipsch math seems to be spot on, averaging about 9 db higher all things else remaining constant (-30db on AVR 1613, direct, same track, same position, etc).
-I can actually hear sustain on cymbals ....been missing that big time...long time.
-Good bass output, going to skip the sub
-Klipsch support right that I won't be listening to receiver anywhere close to where I had it with my old less efficient speakers. At -30 db setting I am averaging 80db avg measured from primary listening position, way louder.

So I get it, more efficient speakers, less amp. Near as I can tell, this had effect of essentially doubling my amp size. Goodbye $2000 receivers:)

But the sound is much clearer, especially highs....and obviously floorstanders going much lower than my bookshelves could.

These are a keep.

one thing you will notice also(some folks make the mistake of thinking this is a speaker issue) is that the speakers are so efficient that they will transmit poor source material much more clearly(displaying the bad recordings).

people seem to think this is an issue with the klipsch design... it is, klipsch will let you know when your crappy recordings are being played.
post #21910 of 35360
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Originally Posted by MSchu18 View Post

one thing you will notice also(some folks make the mistake of thinking this is a speaker issue) is that the speakers are so efficient that they will transmit poor source material much more clearly(displaying the bad recordings).

people seem to think this is an issue with the klipsch design... it is, klipsch will let you know when your crappy recordings are being played.

I'll second that observation. And the further up the Klipsch line you go, the more apparent that revelation will be.

Last month, I upgraded my SF-2 fronts -- which I bought new in 2001 -- to a brand new pair of SF-3s that I found on eBay (yep... nine years old, still in their never-opened boxes). I expected there to be a fairly discernable difference between the two (8" woofers as compared to 6.5" woofers, but made of the same speaker material... and similar tweeters, but with a larger horn), but I was definitely not prepared for how MUCH of a difference there would be.

One of my favorite pieces of music is the allegro from Chopin's Piano Concerto No. 1... and the most hauntingly beautiful rendition of it that I've ever encountered, is a late-50's or early-60's RCA Victor Gold Seal recording of Artur Rubenstein's performance of it, with the New Symphony Orchestra of London. I have it on a 1998 ADD-recorded CD called "Rubenstein - Nocturne", produced by "BMG Entertainment". Listening to that recording through my SF-2s, I could tell that the digital processing done to the original analog tapes was rather poorly implemented, but the slightly-audible tape-hiss wasn't overly distracting, as long as I never attempted to listen at more than moderate volume.

With the introduction of the SF-3s into my system, EVERYTHING has changed (the SF-2s are now my surrounds... but for music CDs, I only listen to two-channel). The difference in the breadth and depth and fullness of instrumental tone, and the clarity with which I am able to distinguish and isolate individual instruments -- especially percussion -- is quite frankly astonishing.

But as "Nobody" points out... the price for that clarity, is that unless your CDs of originally-analog recordings were digitally-remastered extremely well -- or if your newer, all-digital recordings were simply poorly processed -- you ARE going to hear that recording's flaws... loud and clear.

Bottom line, for me? The tape-hiss on the Rubenstein/Chopin track on that CD is now BLATANTLY apparent. But I love that performance more than any other, so I'll still listen to it as often as I have previously... but now at VERY moderate volume.

And my other, WELL-recorded CDs and DVDs...?

W-O-W... do these SF-3s SING!!!
post #21911 of 35360
Ok
post #21912 of 35360
Oops, so at some point, as I improve my speakers, will sources, such as Pandora, or iPod, become exposed? Or will they help cover up flaws?
post #21913 of 35360
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Oops, so at some point, as I improve my speakers, will sources, such as Pandora, or iPod, become exposed? Or will they help cover up flaws?

As stated above, Klipsch speakers reveal flaws in the music. They really reveal everything about your electronics. Sensitive speakers like Klipsch pick up hiss and hum from even fluorescent bulbs and dimmer switches.
post #21914 of 35360
I meant will the sources help cover the flaws?
post #21915 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

As stated above, Klipsch speakers reveal flaws in the music. They really reveal everything about your electronics. Sensitive speakers like Klipsch pick up hiss and hum from even fluorescent bulbs and dimmer switches.
Nonsense.
post #21916 of 35360
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

I meant will the sources help cover the flaws?

I have efficient speakers and I enjoy listening to Pandora. I hear no flaws with that source.
post #21917 of 35360
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Originally Posted by dmcdayton View Post

Actually good quality streaming audio benefits from these speakers. I subscribe to the higher bitrate Pandora and listened to 15 minutes of soft rock and it sounded as improved as my other sources. If you are getting hum or RF that's not a speaker problem but rather a power source or receiver amp problem. Get a really good surge protector. My stuff is on same circuit as microwave and 2 fluorescents and no problems here.

As for ipod, using 256 bit bit rate (iTunes standard) is indistinguishable from CD.

I still buy CDs occasionally but rip to Apple Lossless and stream everything via Apple TV for convenience.

I totally agree. I listen to Pandora with the higher bit rate. My hearing isn't what it used to be. I was in the Navy for 9 years and have hearing loss in my left ear. I have my Blu-ray player hooked directly to my amp. I get no hiss or hum. My whole system is on a circuit with part of my kitchen. I have no problems whatsoever.
post #21918 of 35360
I would listen to Pandora at the higher bit rate, but, iIrc, that is not possible through my Denon AVR-3312CI; do rip all my CD's lossless and connect iPod or iPhone directly to Denon via usb cable, or rarely, use AirPlay for convenience. My hearing, too, is not what it used to be, Tank Battalion for over 15 years, C17 Aircraft the other time.

I look forward to hearing more flaws as I'm able to climb up the Klipsch ladder...cool.gif
post #21919 of 35360
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

I would listen to Pandora at the higher bit rate, but, iIrc, that is not possible through my Denon AVR-3312CI; do rip all my CD's lossless and connect iPod or iPhone directly to Denon via usb cable, or rarely, use AirPlay for convenience. My hearing, too, is not what it used to be, Tank Battalion for over 15 years, C17 Aircraft the other time.

I look forward to hearing more flaws as I'm able to climb up the Klipsch ladder...cool.gif
How do you like your Denon 3312? I'm thinking of upgrading sooner or later. I'm looking at 3312, 3313, or the 4311
post #21920 of 35360
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

I would listen to Pandora at the higher bit rate, but, iIrc, that is not possible through my Denon AVR-3312CI; do rip all my CD's lossless and connect iPod or iPhone directly to Denon via usb cable, or rarely, use AirPlay for convenience. My hearing, too, is not what it used to be, Tank Battalion for over 15 years, C17 Aircraft the other time.

I look forward to hearing more flaws as I'm able to climb up the Klipsch ladder...cool.gif
How do you like your Denon 3312? I'm thinking of upgrading sooner or later. I'm looking at 3312, 3313, or the 4311

Like it fine. Also have 3311, but I'd wait, new models out soon

PM any specific questions
post #21921 of 35360
I'm looking at getting an RC-64 II and a pair of RF-82 II's for the front set in my HT set up, that will have an Onkyo TX-NR1010 for my AVR, which I have on the way.
I'd like to avoid the cost of the RS-62 II's for the side/rear surrounds.

Would the RB-81 II's be a decent/acceptable alternative, or just a huge mistake?

I'm in my 60's and my hearing is still fair, but I am noticing a real drop off in how well I hear the dialog in movies with my existing HK AVR645 and Bose Acustomass speakers (an AM7 for the front, and a set of AM5 for the side surrounds, with another set of AM5 for the rear surround).
Although the AMs are really not very good, after some experimenting I really feel the HK is contributing the lions share of a muffled-voice problem on the center channel (especially when there is also other 'background' sound on that channel).
My initial aim was just to make sure I could get better center channel performance, hence the new 1010.
And then I started looking at the 64II. But the price of the matching Rf-7 II's has me also looking at the 82 II's to go with the 64 II.

I guess I could see how the 2 sets of AM 5's I'm currently using for my side/rear surrounds, will work with the 64/82 II's, but I would appreciate you fellow's thoughts on the 64, 82 and either the RS-62's or RB-81'S ..... before I paint myself into a corner.

TIA,

Flyer91
Edited by Flyer91 - 4/17/13 at 11:30pm
post #21922 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Flyer91 View Post

I'm looking at getting an RC-64 II and a pair of RF-82 II's for the front set in my HT set up, that will have an Onkyo TX-NR1010 for my AVR, which I have on the way.
I'd like to avoid the cost of the RS-62 II's for the side/rear surrounds.

Would the RB-81 II's be a decent/acceptable alternative, or just a huge mistake?

I'm in my 60's and my hearing is still fair, but I am noticing a real drop off in how well I hear the dialog in movies with my existing HK AVR645 and Bose Acustomass speakers (an AM7 for the front, and a set of AM5 for the side surrounds, with another set of AM5 for the rear surround).
Although the AMs are really not very good, after some experimenting I really feel the HK is contributing the lions share of a muffled-voice problem on the center channel (especially when there is also other 'background' sound on that channel).
My initial aim was just to make sure I could get better center channel performance, hence the new 1010.
And then I started looking at the 64II. But the price of the matching Rf-7 II's has me also looking at the 82 II's to go with the 64 II.

I guess I could see how the 2 sets of AM 5's I'm currently using for my side/rear surrounds, will work with the 64/82 II's, but I would appreciate you fellow's thoughts on the 64, 82 and either the RS-62's or RB-81'S ..... before I paint myself into a corner.

TIA,

Flyer91

Are you going 5.1 or 7.1? I would recommend the RS-62 II as side surrounds and RB-81 II as rear surrounds for 7.1. For 5.1, I recommend using the 62 II's. You will get a better sound dispersion with the 62 II's. You can look on Craigslist for a good set of used 62 II's. The Acoustomess speakers will be totally drowned out by the Klipsch speakers.
post #21923 of 35360
RB's are more than fine for rears if you are considering them... there are a number of folks running 5.1 systems just like what you are purposing.
there will be no timbre issues.
post #21924 of 35360
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Originally Posted by Flyer91 View Post

I'm looking at getting an RC-64 II and a pair of RF-82 II's for the front set in my HT set up, that will have an Onkyo TX-NR1010 for my AVR, which I have on the way.
I'd like to avoid the cost of the RS-62 II's for the side/rear surrounds.

Would the RB-81 II's be a decent/acceptable alternative, or just a huge mistake?

I'm in my 60's and my hearing is still fair, but I am noticing a real drop off in how well I hear the dialog in movies with my existing HK AVR645 and Bose Acustomass speakers (an AM7 for the front, and a set of AM5 for the side surrounds, with another set of AM5 for the rear surround).
Although the AMs are really not very good, after some experimenting I really feel the HK is contributing the lions share of a muffled-voice problem on the center channel (especially when there is also other 'background' sound on that channel).
My initial aim was just to make sure I could get better center channel performance, hence the new 1010.
And then I started looking at the 64II. But the price of the matching Rf-7 II's has me also looking at the 82 II's to go with the 64 II.

I guess I could see how the 2 sets of AM 5's I'm currently using for my side/rear surrounds, will work with the 64/82 II's, but I would appreciate you fellow's thoughts on the 64, 82 and either the RS-62's or RB-81'S ..... before I paint myself into a corner.

TIA,

Flyer91
the 81's will work just fine , they can be aimed right at the seating position , either on stands , wall shelves Or even taller end tables , bang for buck the 81's are the best . If you have multiple seatings ,entertain a lot & are the type who is up & moving around the room while listening the RS work better , the 81 will work just fine if it's just you & the wife . I use direct radiators as my surrounds (81's are direct radiators ) and they are great . my listening position is static bipolor are not needed in my room (RS-62 are bipolor)
having RF82 as mains , a RC64 center , & RB81 as surrounds is a perfectly matched system as all the horns are the same as well the woofers
post #21925 of 35360
Wouldn't he want to go with the RC-62II as the matching center for the RF-82II?
post #21926 of 35360
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Originally Posted by djPerfectTrip View Post

Wouldn't he want to go with the RC-62II as the matching center for the RF-82II?

I would think it would be a better idea to get the RF-7IIs to match the RC-64II. biggrin.gif
post #21927 of 35360
Ha, you have a point there =^P
post #21928 of 35360
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Originally Posted by djPerfectTrip View Post

Wouldn't he want to go with the RC-62II as the matching center for the RF-82II?

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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

I would think it would be a better idea to get the RF-7IIs to match the RC-64II. biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by djPerfectTrip View Post

Ha, you have a point there =^P
If he has a problem with voices then him getting a 64 makes more sense as he is saying costs are a factor & a 64 works just fine with RF82's .

yeah it's easy to spend some other guy's money , but he is asking about no wasting cash here .

7's are a whole different picture are they not ?
post #21929 of 35360
Coming from what he is coming from into Klipsch, the RC-62II will be plenty good for him and save him some cash. No *need* for the RC-64II at all imho. Also, as far as the surrounds, I always recommend the RSs, I love mine! If money is an issue, just go with the RS-52IIs, I wouldn't go any smaller than that tho, unless your room is small.
post #21930 of 35360
Hi Mongo, thanks for the feedback!

You're right .... I hadn't thought about the much better efficiency of the Klipsch over the AM's.

I like your idea of getting the RS-62 II's for the sides,and maybe later the RB-81 II's for the rear.
That would save significantly over getting 4 RS-62 II's

Although most all the source material I watch is 5.1, I want to be able to have 7.1, but I can hold off on the rear speakers for now.
I got a quote of $900 for ea. pair of new RS-62 II's, and I assume that price would be good for a while (or even drop more) while I decide on the rears.
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