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post #23011 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

one point that some here miss is that the diaphragms in the reference line is wildly different from the F-30 & alike line the RF line has a TI driver while the F-30 line has a AL driver .
AL diaphragms break down after awhile so they have a "shelf life" where the TI last longer than a person will live .
one is a soft metal where as TI is one of the hardest metals . Food for thought smile.gif

I thought about this last night. My Cornwalls we purchased new in 1979, they still have the same phenolic diaphragms in the mid horn drivers and they still in spec
with my ohmn meter and they still sound great. I have always been carefull with what ever amp I was playing over the years as not to clip or hurt and of my drivers.
I have a 1 amp fast burn fuse in line with the speaker wire on tha back of each CW and I have never blown a fuse..yet. I wounder what the shelf life is for these phenolic diaphragms?

Now that I have a C7 center and I have a stock poly, phenolic and one of Crites Ti diaphragms for the tweeter. I am going to try each one of the next few months to
to see which one sounds best with my odd combo of Klipsch speakers for HT use. Right now I still have the stock poly in it and in a few more weeks I will try the phenolic like my Cornwall have. I have Crites CT-125 drop in tweeters in the CW now and they too have phenolic. But my rear RS3-II have Ti from the factory so I purchased a Ti from Crites to try in the C7.......time will tell if I can hear any difference.

AL driver?
post #23012 of 35245
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Originally Posted by blue13x View Post

Called Klipsch yesterday and they said Not to go RS-42 as rears for the RF-62 II since the small 4" cones of the RS-42s cant keep up with the fronts...is this true?

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I have the RS-52 II's setup with my RF-62 II's and they are huge; my wife almost killed me when I removed them from the box. They sound great, but I'm sure the RS-42 II's will work just as well. Buy them, level match them and enjoy!
post #23013 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Tom Riddle View Post

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Originally Posted by blue13x View Post

Called Klipsch yesterday and they said Not to go RS-42 as rears for the RF-62 II since the small 4" cones of the RS-42s cant keep up with the fronts...is this true?

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I have the RS-52 II's setup with my RF-62 II's and they are huge; my wife almost killed me when I removed them from the box. They sound great, but I'm sure the RS-42 II's will work just as well. Buy them, level match them and enjoy!

Thanks. Will go either RS-42 or rb-61.

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post #23014 of 35245
I'm like the total opposite my surrounds are bigger than my mains lol. It was kinda weird how that happened but either way I will be going the RF62ii for my fronts within time. I want to have the same size drivers on all my speakers. There is a store within a couple of hours from me that will let me trade in my RF52ii's for the RF62ii's whenever I'm ready.
post #23015 of 35245
Ok, I read some of this monster size thread but can someone give me their thoughts on these speakers in a 15x15 room with 10' ceiling hgt.

Going to get the Denon x3000 to drive them.

rf 62 or 82
Klipsch RC-52 II Center
Klipsch Synergy S-10 or S20

tks
post #23016 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post

Ok, I read some of this monster size thread but can someone give me their thoughts on these speakers in a 15x15 room with 10' ceiling hgt.

Going to get the Denon x3000 to drive them.

rf 62 or 82
Klipsch RC-52 II Center
Klipsch Synergy S-10 or S20

tks
Save your money by getting the 62s instead of the 82s. They will be fine. With what you save get some Reference surrounds instead of Synergy.
post #23017 of 35245
so u think the speaker to check out are

rf 62
Klipsch RC-52 II Center
RS-42 II surronds
post #23018 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post

Ok, I read some of this monster size thread but can someone give me their thoughts on these speakers in a 15x15 room with 10' ceiling hgt.

Going to get the Denon x3000 to drive them.

rf 62 or 82
Klipsch RC-52 II Center
Klipsch Synergy S-10 or S20

tks

Either of those mains will work for a room that size. Try to get the RC-62ii as a center as opposed to the 52II. Also, try to upgrade your surrounds to at least RS-42ii's. But if you have to use the S20's then so be it.
post #23019 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post

so u think the speaker to check out are

rf 62
Klipsch RC-52 II Center
RS-42 II surronds
Yes
Dont forget to get a sub when you can.
post #23020 of 35245
I happen to feel that if there's extra money to be spent, it should be spent on the Center Channel as opposed to surrounds.
post #23021 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Prime316 View Post

I happen to feel that if there's extra money to be spent, it should be spent on the Center Channel as opposed to surrounds.

Use a single RF-62 for Center if you can.
post #23022 of 35245
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Use a single RF-62 for Center if you can.

I've always wondered how that would work. I don't know if it would sound right with it it sitting vertically. I guess it would sound the same vertically or horizontally. Probably more of a visual deal.
post #23023 of 35245
well that would add about $180 with the rc 62,

So not a big deal.

so are you suggesting to go to rs 41's for surrounds?






By the way any suggestions on the where to go for the best deals on these?
post #23024 of 35245
I just got done running three rf-63's for LCR and I will say that the "effects" are a perfect seamless soundstage up front. Just such a cohesive sound. I was hoping for an upgraded sound over the rc-64 I had but that wasn't the case. Just a more seamless sound. So it you can do three towers then that's the way to go.
post #23025 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post

well that would add about $180 with the rc 62,

So not a big deal.

so are you suggesting to go to rs 41's for surrounds?






By the way any suggestions on the where to go for the best deals on these?

I would suggest RF-62ii's for mains
And RC-62ii for a center channel-just a better, fuller sound than the RC-52ii
And RS-42ii's for surrounds so you get the dual drivers on your surrounds to match your mains.

That setup should easily fill a 15x15 room.

I would say look for authorized dealerships in your area. If you go to the Klipsch website, you can look them up in your area. Usually they will give you a package deal if you show up in person and let them know you are a serious buyer. Also there's an authorized dealer here.
post #23026 of 35245
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Originally Posted by AJ72 View Post

I own some great floorstanding kg5.5s and in my setup they can sound thin depending on the setting I choose for speaker size. If you are able to, choose large when listening to music. If its just the one stereo setting then its two options.

1. In my setup I prefer the sound for music listening when the sub is engaged. I find the Kg5.5's dont lack in the bass department but cant give me the wonderful depth/feel compared to when the sub is engaged. Im talking clean and detailed bass here which is what you describe your after. I do have a great subwoofer that wasnt cheap (JTR CAP 2400 passive) but Im sure if that (or a Seaton Submersive) is not in your price range there would be good options around. I think the addition of a good subwoofer brings real depth/realism to the soundstage which I cant achieve with my KG5.5s on their own. If you are going to go down this path you need to find a sub thats musical (some subs are great for movies but cant reproduce music as well). This is the option I recommend (with these speakers) as the sub makes the whole room come alive in a 3dimensional way. Without the sub its still good but doesn't blow me away.

2.Try the other speakers you mentioned though it sounds like you have an appetite for bass so it may still not be enough.

Thanks for the detailed response on the sub option. I did return the 42s and ended up bringing home 82s, which I set up last night. As was my impression in the store, they gave me (most of) the bass response I wanted and didn't have the reedy top end I was hearing in the lower-end RF-series models when listening to female vocalists. And happily, they don't overwhelm my room, though they displaced a bit of guest seating! But, as you suggest in your sub recommendation, speaker placement and listener seating position are more essential to optimal sound than I might like—which I know is probably the case with any towers on their own. That's fine for solo listening, but I wouldn't mind a set-up that would, as you say, "make the whole room come alive" should I want to share.

I looked up your sub and, holy good christ, that seems massive to me. Any musical-application sub recommendations on the smaller and, yeah, more affordable end? Preferably something that won't get my house address brought up at the next HOA meeting? wink.gif For this phase of the project, I'm happy to bide my time and wait to pounce on a decent deal on the consumer resale sites, but I'd still probably be shooting for $1K max. And I do have that 20-year-old 100-watt Adcom amp that I'd prefer not to have to replace, undoubtedly limiting my chances to acquire a sound system that would allow me to sell tickets to performances in my living room—though if your eyes are rolling so far back in your head at its mention that you absolutely must say something to change my mind, I'm a guest in your forum and I did come here for your opinion. smile.gif
post #23027 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

AL driver?

AL driver. You know AL? Aluminum. wink.gif
post #23028 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Prime316 View Post

I've always wondered how that would work. I don't know if it would sound right with it it sitting vertically. I guess it would sound the same vertically or horizontally. Probably more of a visual deal.

Actually, they will sound different on their sides. You would have to rotate the tweeter 90 degrees for it to sound right. Also, get the best center to match your mains. I know it's hard to decide which center to get. Specially when the upgrade bug hits. AND IT WILL!!! eek.gif
post #23029 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Actually, they will sound different on their sides. You would have to rotate the tweeter 90 degrees for it to sound right. Also, get the best center to match your mains. I know it's hard to decide which center to get. Specially when the upgrade bug hits. AND IT WILL!!! eek.gif
If it has a 90x90 dispersion tweeter you will not have to rotate it. Some are 90x60.
post #23030 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

AL driver. You know AL? Aluminum. wink.gif

Aluminum diaphragm in that driver? Or the driver on the back of the horn is aluminum?? I have owned Heritage for 35 years and just in the last few years

went HT and purchased Reference HT speakers. I just sold my RC-62 center and replaced it with a older C7 that I have a phenoilc diaphragm to try

after I get use to the stock poly that is in that big tweeter.
post #23031 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Scrappydue View Post

I just got done running three rf-63's for LCR and I will say that the "effects" are a perfect seamless soundstage up front. Just such a cohesive sound. I was hoping for an upgraded sound over the rc-64 I had but that wasn't the case. Just a more seamless sound. So it you can do three towers then that's the way to go.
I got 3 RB75's across the front it's pretty exciting.
post #23032 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

If it has a 90x90 dispersion tweeter you will not have to rotate it. Some are 90x60.

Both the RF-62 and the RF-62 II's have 90 X 60 horns, according to the Klipsch website.
post #23033 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Both the RF-62 and the RF-62 II's have 90 X 60 horns, according to the Klipsch website.
My statement was just a general one so that everyone didnt think that you always had to move the tweeter in order to use a speaker as a center. And, of course, using it vertically is nearly always best but not practical for most situations.
post #23034 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

Aluminum diaphragm in that driver? Or the driver on the back of the horn is aluminum?? I have owned Heritage for 35 years and just in the last few years

went HT and purchased Reference HT speakers. I just sold my RC-62 center and replaced it with a older C7 that I have a phenoilc diaphragm to try

after I get use to the stock poly that is in that big tweeter.

I didn't check all of the Synergy series, but the F-10, F-20 and F-30 all have the aluminum tweeter diaphragms.
post #23035 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

My statement was just a general one so that everyone didnt think that you always had to move the tweeter in order to use a speaker as a center. And, of course, using it vertically is nearly always best but not practical for most situations.

I totally agree with you. Unless it's behind a false wall or an AT screen. it would look pretty funny horizontal.

I even laugh at people who put center channels vertically. Just don't look right.
post #23036 of 35245
The Icon series is aluminum as well. The Reference series is titanium.
post #23037 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

I totally agree with you. Unless it's behind a false wall or an AT screen. it would look pretty funny horizontal.

I even laugh at people who put center channels vertically. Just don't look right.
And while Ive never tried it and I know its proper I cant imagine it making a lot of difference.
post #23038 of 35245
One thing I think worth noting though is that the Icon series tweeters are not compression driven like the Synergy and Reference.
post #23039 of 35245
iPhone pics of my Center:





RC-42II went to my wife, Lee & Jackson...
Edited by SanchoPanza - 6/28/13 at 10:41pm
post #23040 of 35245
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Originally Posted by Jimbo2012 View Post

well that would add about $180 with the rc 62,

So not a big deal.

so are you suggesting to go to rs 41's for surrounds?






By the way any suggestions on the where to go for the best deals on these?

Im looking at the same system. Klipsch recommends the Rs-52, but as many have suggested the 42 will work i guess.

Im thinking of rb-61 as rears also.

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