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post #23221 of 35269
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

Link is a pic of Jubilee "Towed IN" I know it looks odd but try this with your KG's.

 

Those belong to Ralph, just outside of London.  My wife and I visited with Ralph for a day along with an old high school / college friend of mine and his wife.  Here's (what I felt at the time was) an interesting story about those Jubilee's. 

 

He ordered them on reputation alone.  He had never heard them nor seen them.  He contacted a few owners, made some questions and (I presume) on the reputation of PWK alone, ordered a pair blind and had them shipped to him in England.  After they arrived, he was a bit mute on how they sounded....  I later found out he had contacted Roy and told Roy he didn't feel they had enough "tinkle".  Roy didn't really know what to make of it other than perhaps Ralph might have lead ears.

 

We got there to visit and listened to his setup....but something struck me as strange.  His top horns didn't have any bug-screen on them.  I didn't say anything at first but looked closer.  I even took this picture.  You can clearly see a tube with some depth.  The bug screen on my (and all) K402/K69's are right at the base of the horn, very visible.

 

I kept my mouth shut....came back home and after the vacation, I got ahold of Roy and emailed him the picture.  He had an "Ah-Ha" moment....  asked that Ralph turn the speaker around to see if he had a K69 (tweeter) driver hanging off the back or, to Roy's guess, did he have a K1132/1133 (I forget) midrange driver hanging off the back?

 

Turns out he had the midrange driver.  Since he was the third or fourth buyer of them for residential use, the guys at the factory hadn't yet become accustomed to swapping drivers and putting the K69 on there.  Klipsch sent the wrong driver attached.  Roy apologized, had a pair of K69's delivered to Ralph and Ralph had his tinkle restored.

 

post #23222 of 35269
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Originally Posted by Mupi View Post

Thanks everyone for the input. I guess before I spend the money on a new pair of Heresy III's, I will try the Heresy II's. I can easily sell them for the same amount I paid for considering the higher demand for them compared to the KG's.

Thought the same thing, easy to get your money back out of them.

Used to be inexpensive to upgrade HII to HIII, but not any more.
post #23223 of 35269
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Originally Posted by Mupi View Post

Thanks everyone for the input. I guess before I spend the money on a new pair of Heresy III's, I will try the Heresy II's. I can easily sell them for the same amount I paid for considering the higher demand for them compared to the KG's.

If you don't like the sound of the HII, Klipsch sells a kit to convert them to HIII minus the woofer. You can get the Crites woofer. Then, you will have a killer HIII.
Edited by Mongo171 - 7/7/13 at 11:15am
post #23224 of 35269
I was level calibrating my system today and noticed that one of my RF-62 II's tweeter didn't sound right - it was at a very low volume and then the level spiked about 5 db's after 10 seconds or so and remained there. I thought it might be the receiver, so I switched it the other channel and the same thing occured again - so it's definitely the speaker. I've emailed Klipsch to see what they suggest; the speakers are only 4 months old so I'm still under warranty. Anyone ever experience this and what was the solution!
post #23225 of 35269
I would be looking at the receiver before the speakers. What is the make & model of the A/V receiver, how large is the room that you have, do you have a sub-woofer or not? How many speakers are in your setup? What were you using for testing the system after running through the calibration?
post #23226 of 35269
Onkyo TX-NR808, 7.1 setup with matching center and surrounds for RF-62 II's and SVS PB12-NSD. Room is 19x17x12. I was using the test tones in the receiver when I noticed the probem. As stated, I believed the receiver was the culprit so I switched the channel the speaker was on from left front to right front and ran the test tones again. Again, the problem persisted the exact same way with the same speaker; switching it back to its original channel produced the same result. At this point I'm confident that it is the speaker and not the receiver, the other speaker didn't exhibit this problem throughout the testing. I verified it was a 5 db spike with my spl meter. The same result was produced with Audyssey on and off in the receiver.
post #23227 of 35269
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

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Originally Posted by Mupi View Post

Thanks everyone for the input. I guess before I spend the money on a new pair of Heresy III's, I will try the Heresy II's. I can easily sell them for the same amount I paid for considering the higher demand for them compared to the KG's.

If you don't like the sound of the HII, Klipsch sells a kit to convert them to HIII minus the woofer. You can get the Crites woofer. Then, you will have a killer HIII.

$290 EACH, plus shipping & local sales tax for the kits. $210 a pair shipped for Crites woofers on uPay.
post #23228 of 35269
I'm ready to upgrade my marantz SR 5006! I feel like I'm not getting enough out of my rb 81 and rb 61s. Do you think the txnr 929 will work
Edited by e84cooper - 7/7/13 at 4:42pm
post #23229 of 35269
^^^^

Buy an external 2 channel amp instead to power your rb 81 speakers. You don't need an amp for the surrounds, they don't get that much content.

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/xpa200

http://shop.emotiva.com/collections/amplifiers/products/upa200
post #23230 of 35269
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Originally Posted by e84cooper View Post

I'm ready to upgrade my marantz SR 5006! I feel like I'm not getting enough out of my rb 81 and rb 61s. Do you think the txnr 929 will work
yeah that should do the trick 135 watts , that unit has a great dual Vid processor as well so not only will you hear SQ improvement but see PQ improvements as well I got a 1009 that I use as a pre-pro into some Emotiva UPA-7 & UPA-2 as amps nice clean sound & great PQ the new onk's have the best in-class video up-processors , They will convert everything to 1080P Very Well , SD looks great on my 80" Sharp . smile.gif I love the new wireless & Bluetooth connectivity that the 929 has . when I replace the 807 Onk in the bedroom ,I'm gonna move the 1009 in there & get a 929 in the new year 2014 wink.gif .
post #23231 of 35269
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

$290 EACH, plus shipping & local sales tax for the kits. $210 a pair shipped for Crites woofers on uPay.
Ouch !
post #23232 of 35269
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

$290 EACH, plus shipping & local sales tax for the kits. $210 a pair shipped for Crites woofers on uPay.

Wish I have the $$ to that to my stock HII...... and do the same with Crites cast frame 15" woofers to replace my stock 15" woofers in my Cornwalls.
I have his new networks on new cedar boards that are too nice to be hidden inside the cabinet. And his CT-125 tweeters BIG DIFFERECE over
the stock Cornwall Alinco magnet tweeters. Read the article

http://www.critesspeakers.com/klipsch_tweeters.html
post #23233 of 35269
to redo one set, is more than I paid for all 5 of my HIIs...

http://community.klipsch.com/forums/p/174127/1981047.aspx#1981047
post #23234 of 35269
wonder if I could just do the Crites Woofers, for now...the price of those is not outlandish???
post #23235 of 35269
oh, yes and the Crites slant risers $45 on uMay cool.gif
post #23236 of 35269
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

Wish I have the $$ to that to my stock HII...... and do the same with Crites cast frame 15" woofers to replace my stock 15" woofers in my Cornwalls.
I have his new networks on new cedar boards that are too nice to be hidden inside the cabinet. And his CT-125 tweeters BIG DIFFERECE over
the stock Cornwall Alinco magnet tweeters. Read the article

http://www.critesspeakers.com/klipsch_tweeters.html

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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

wonder if I could just do the Crites Woofers, for now...the price of those is not outlandish???
Ya Know !
when I modded my Cornwalls to CornScalas the old woofer outta the C/W's went for almost 1 1/2 times what I paid for the Crites cast woofers .
same thing happened when I parted out a set of Herseies , the woofers went for more than the Crites replacement woofs

actually most all the parts of the Cornwalls sold really high & financed most of the mods . People want the old parts to restore speakers & will pay a high price for them , not knowing that the Crites Woofs & tweets are WAY Better by a longshot .
post #23237 of 35269
Good points, 1 set I don't want to upgrade (the Signature Edition) but the others I could replace the Woofers & sell the old ones, or keep as spares.
post #23238 of 35269
Can someone give me their thoughts on changing out my Klipsch RF-3/RC-3 front stage for Heresy II's ? I'm going to start building a false wall with a transparent screen, so I'd like to go with 3 identical speakers across the front.

I'm having trouble deciding between keeping the existing setup, going with the Heresy II's, or going with SEOS Waveguide DIY kits.
post #23239 of 35269
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Originally Posted by jonathanc View Post

Can someone give me their thoughts on changing out my Klipsch RF-3/RC-3 front stage for Heresy II's ? I'm going to start building a false wall with a transparent screen, so I'd like to go with 3 identical speakers across the front.

I'm having trouble deciding between keeping the existing setup, going with the Heresy II's, or going with SEOS Waveguide DIY kits.
have yu looked at the Crites CS-1.5 's ?? I built a set of 5 of them & I loved them Bob Crites sells the knock down version all ready pre-cut . the CS-1 is a better speaker than a Hersey is & the CS-1.5 is a ported version that diggs lower due to a bigger cab .

CS-1.5 pages http://www.critesspeakers.com/crites-cs-1-speaker-project.html

CS-1 center speaker http://www.critesspeakers.com/csc-1-center-channel-speake.html
But IF I had to do it ever again I would have had him due the cutting of the boards as he uses a CAD mill to precision cut everything
post #23240 of 35269
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Originally Posted by jonathanc View Post

Can someone give me their thoughts on changing out my Klipsch RF-3/RC-3 front stage for Heresy II's ? I'm going to start building a false wall with a transparent screen, so I'd like to go with 3 identical speakers across the front...

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Have you heard the Heresies before?
post #23241 of 35269
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

Have you heard the Heresies before?

Only Heresy III's, and only a demo model in an open floorplan at a London Drugs. I don't have a way to compare them, and I live very far North, so demo'ing them proper is not an option.
post #23242 of 35269
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

have yu looked at the Crites CS-1.5 's ?? I built a set of 5 of them & I loved them Bob Crites sells the knock down version all ready pre-cut . the CS-1 is a better speaker than a Hersey is & the CS-1.5 is a ported version that diggs lower due to a bigger cab .

CS-1.5 pages http://www.critesspeakers.com/crites-cs-1-speaker-project.html

CS-1 center speaker http://www.critesspeakers.com/csc-1-center-channel-speake.html
But IF I had to do it ever again I would have had him due the cutting of the boards as he uses a CAD mill to precision cut everything

Very interesting. I don't need the low extension, If it starts to fall below 80hz that is fine, which would have me choose the sealed over the ported.
post #23243 of 35269
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Originally Posted by jonathanc View Post

Only Heresy III's, and only a demo model in an open floorplan at a London Drugs. I don't have a way to compare them, and I live very far North, so demo'ing them proper is not an option.

I agree with everyone that used Heresies are a good deal because you can usually sell them for near what you paid for them...That said, the reason I ask is because for their footprint I prefer other Klipsch models (RB-75 for one) and want to give a second opinion because there has been so much talk about them.

I definitely don't mean this as a cut and agree YMMV because they have lots of fans. smile.gif
post #23244 of 35269
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

have yu looked at the Crites CS-1.5 's ?? I built a set of 5 of them & I loved them Bob Crites sells the knock down version all ready pre-cut . the CS-1 is a better speaker than a Hersey is & the CS-1.5 is a ported version that diggs lower due to a bigger cab .

CS-1.5 pages http://www.critesspeakers.com/crites-cs-1-speaker-project.html

CS-1 center speaker http://www.critesspeakers.com/csc-1-center-channel-speake.html
But IF I had to do it ever again I would have had him due the cutting of the boards as he uses a CAD mill to precision cut everything

Yes I have stared at all his speakers many times. If I had the $$ I would have 4 Cornscala and his center in a 20 foot square room.
http://www.critesspeakers.com/cornscala.html with two TOTL subs.
post #23245 of 35269
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

I agree with everyone that used Heresies are a good deal because you can usually sell them for near what you paid for them...That said, the reason I ask is because for their footprint I prefer other Klipsch models (RB-75 for one) and want to give a second opinion because there has been so much talk about them.

I definitely don't mean this as a cut and agree YMMV because they have lots of fans. smile.gif

The problem with the RB 75's I see is that the efficiency is a fabrication versus the Heresy. I want efficiency, not bass extension, and you can't have both with that kind of enclosure. I don't think the RB 75's would offer anything over my RF-3's other than the smaller size. I really wish Klipsch would publish their frequency responses...
post #23246 of 35269
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Originally Posted by jonathanc View Post

The problem with the RB 75's I see is that the efficiency is a fabrication versus the Heresy. I want efficiency, not bass extension, and you can't have both with that kind of enclosure. I don't think the RB 75's would offer anything over my RF-3's other than the smaller size. I really wish Klipsch would publish their frequency responses...

I have both the RB-75s and RF-3s. The former's upper-end is cleaner and why I would prefer them over RF-3s as main speakers. That said, I actually like the RF-3s better as side surrounds in our main setup because we sit close to them (raised 10 in) and prefer the fuller lower end (read: midrange). Again, YMMV, but the larger compression driver mated to the horn on the RB-75s was designed to keep up with the RF-7s, which they do. smile.gif
post #23247 of 35269
Hey guys I have a system right now that consists of two rf-62 II and an rc-62 II. Using a marantz 5007 to power them.

I sometimes want to play loud and have been able to that with the receiver. One con is that its only 100 watts per channel (rated at 100 watts 2-channel driven)

Considrring I will be adding rears and the front are actually 125 watts each, is this ok? Or should i be looking at an upgrade?

Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note II
post #23248 of 35269
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Originally Posted by blue13x View Post

Hey guys I have a system right now that consists of two rf-62 II and an rc-62 II. Using a marantz 5007 to power them.

I sometimes want to play loud and have been able to that with the receiver. One con is that its only 100 watts per channel (rated at 100 watts 2-channel driven)

Considrring I will be adding rears and the front are actually 125 watts each, is this ok? Or should i be looking at an upgrade?

Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note II

I have not looked up the specs on your Marantz yet. But my Yamaha HD AVR rated 130X7 (none of them really make that with all amps on) is at 85%
when I watch a Bluray movie at 90DB .HDMI seems to really suck the power vs a CD at Straight Analog setting with all speakers on (Stereo x7) and I have a 5.2 speaker system. I read my AVR bench tested 120X2 79x5 and 68 x7 wpc.
I am lucky as I am in a small carpeted den with a 8' ceiling. My next upgrade will be a nice 200x5 external amp for HT use, I don't need it for stereo. If your Marantz will let you hook up a seperate amp use it as your Pre/Pro and look at a Emovita 200X5 or one like that so you have some extra head room and you won't be so deep in a 200 wpc amp. I have 1amp fast burn fuse on my + side of my speaker wires just to make sure I don't clip ot hurt my Cornwalls rated 100 WPC each. I have done this for 30 odd years and they still have the orginal woofers etc....... I did upgrade to Crites CT-125 tweeter but my orginal tweeters were not hurt as I keep my cross over fresh.Hope this helps .
post #23249 of 35269
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Hey guys I have a system right now that consists of two rf-62 II and an rc-62 II. Using a marantz 5007 to power them.

I sometimes want to play loud and have been able to that with the receiver. ...

Considrring I will be adding rears ... is this ok? Or should i be looking at an upgrade?
If you're worried that your AVR won't be able to power five speakers to very loud levels without distorting, and since it has multi-channel pre-outputs, consider adding:
i) an Emotiva UPA-200 (reg. $349, currently $299) to power your mains, and use the AVR to power the CC and surrounds; or
ii) an Emotiva UPA-500 (reg. $399 , currently $359) to power...
- your mains and CC, and use the AVR to power the surrounds, or
- your CC and surrounds, and use the AVR to power your mains.

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FWIW: My HT space is ~15' x 30' x 7.5' = ~3,400 cu.ft. I use my Marantz SR6003 to power my mains, and an Emotiva UPA-5 for my CC and surrounds. I only really notice the benefit at very loud levels so, most of the time, it's just peace of mind. But it's nice to have, and it works great. smile.gif
Edited by eljaycanuck - 7/9/13 at 5:57am
post #23250 of 35269
What would people prefer as mains, RF-52 or RB-61?
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