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post #23611 of 35220
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Originally Posted by blue13x View Post

While waiting for my RS-52 II to arrive I decided I just dont want to deal with those external amps. Its not very clear if the benefits are huge or even there at all. So decided to just go with a Marantz sr7007, which should provide ample power for my RF-62 II based system.

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Great receiver, and its understandable to want to keep a system simple. The differences in rated outputs among high-end receivers are not all that significant. External amps do improve performance, that's a fact... depending on the individual user, the benefits could be anywhere from slim to major. With a receiver like that paired with Klipsch towers, the benefits of external amping would likely be slim. Enjoy.
post #23612 of 35220
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Originally Posted by blue13x View Post

While waiting for my RS-52 II to arrive I decided I just dont want to deal with those external amps. Its not very clear if the benefits are huge or even there at all. So decided to just go with a Marantz sr7007, which should provide ample power for my RF-62 II based system.

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Marantz should have ample power. Have you considered the Denon X4000?
post #23613 of 35220
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Originally Posted by MSchu18 View Post

I have a pair of 30's for sale on craigslist by me for $700... surely a good deal for a great performer.
where do you live, and are you wiling to ship, also where is your add posted?
post #23614 of 35220
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

Why not get the plugs at monoprice as well? I have, very reasonably priced.

What AWG speaker cable do you guys recommend for in-wall / in-ceiling?

Thanks
post #23615 of 35220
If I were running it, I'd buy as thick as Monoprice sells.
post #23616 of 35220
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=2817&seq=1&format=2

12 gauge in wall speaker cable , this stuff is rated for building codes for in wall use they hve smaller rolls as well as large rolls (in feet )

you will a lot of it ! in wall takes a huge amount of wire lenght , this stuff has a outer layer that is smooth & slippery to make pulling thru studs easy smile.gif
post #23617 of 35220
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

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Originally Posted by blue13x View Post

While waiting for my RS-52 II to arrive I decided I just dont want to deal with those external amps. Its not very clear if the benefits are huge or even there at all. So decided to just go with a Marantz sr7007, which should provide ample power for my RF-62 II based system.

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Marantz should have ample power. Have you considered the Denon X4000?

What are the benefits over the 7007? Marantz seems like higher quality and love the classic marantz look.

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post #23618 of 35220
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Originally Posted by MSchu18 View Post

I have a pair of 30's for sale on craigslist by me for $700... surely a good deal for a great performer.
Hi mschu18 ,yes that is an awesome deal you should jump in it,also if you want the matching klf c7 there s a guy in north Carolina asking 200 so 900 $ total kinda like my deal that I just got.best speakers bar none
post #23619 of 35220
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Originally Posted by metalguy View Post

where do you live, and are you wiling to ship, also where is your add posted?

Las Vegas
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/ele/3950005756.html
post #23620 of 35220
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023901&p_id=2817&seq=1&format=2

12 gauge in wall speaker cable , this stuff is rated for building codes for in wall use they hve smaller rolls as well as large rolls (in feet )

you will a lot of it ! in wall takes a huge amount of wire lenght , this stuff has a outer layer that is smooth & slippery to make pulling thru studs easy smile.gif

Thanks!!

Should I just pick up 200ft - its a pretty big space and i have a 7.x setup.

any thoughts on a recommended subwoofer cable? I have the RW12D. Not sure if this came with one.
post #23621 of 35220
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

Thanks!!

Should I just pick up 200ft - its a pretty big space and i have a 7.x setup.

any thoughts on a recommended subwoofer cable? I have the RW12D. Not sure if this came with one.

I read that some people go by a standard something similar to below - the longest length of cable for me might be around 50ft.. not sure as it depends how the installer is able to run it. Should I go with 14AWG?

0-25ft - 18AWG
25-50ft - 16AWG
50-75ft - 14AWG
75 & up - 12AWG


this is a 250ft spool of 14AWG.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023902&p_id=2821&seq=1&format=2&rep=josh
post #23622 of 35220
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

I read that some people go by a standard something similar to below - the longest length of cable for me might be around 50ft.. not sure as it depends how the installer is able to run it. Should I go with 14AWG?

0-25ft - 18AWG
25-50ft - 16AWG
50-75ft - 14AWG
75 & up - 12AWG


this is a 250ft spool of 14AWG.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023902&p_id=2821&seq=1&format=2&rep=josh
I use 12 gauge for everything "OverKill" is my middle name smile.gif
post #23623 of 35220
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post



any thoughts on a recommended subwoofer cable? I have the RW12D. Not sure if this came with one.
any of the quality MonoPrice RCA cables will work just fine , pick a thick shielded one
Those MonoPrice cables of all forms are the best cables out there for quality , price ,value
Don't buy in to the "Snake Oil" interconnect hype .
also if your running in walls then go with a thick gauge ,it's not like you can up-grade them later , future proof your self cool.gif
Edited by Fastslappy - 7/22/13 at 1:21pm
post #23624 of 35220
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Marantz should have ample power. Have you considered the Denon X4000?

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Originally Posted by blue13x View Post

What are the benefits over the 7007? Marantz seems like higher quality and love the classic marantz look.

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both the same company
http://www.whathifi.com/forum/off-topic-and-miscellaneous/who-owns-who
post #23625 of 35220
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

Why not get the plugs at monoprice as well? I have, very reasonably priced.
The banana plugs from Monoprice are crap that's why the price is so low. I bought some that's how I know.
post #23626 of 35220
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

I read that some people go by a standard something similar to below - the longest length of cable for me might be around 50ft.. not sure as it depends how the installer is able to run it. Should I go with 14AWG?

0-25ft - 18AWG
25-50ft - 16AWG
50-75ft - 14AWG
75 & up - 12AWG


this is a 250ft spool of 14AWG.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023902&p_id=2821&seq=1&format=2&rep=josh
I never go any smaller than 16 guage.
post #23627 of 35220
If anyone is interested in the NY area

http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/ele/3916090543.html
post #23628 of 35220
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

I use 12 gauge for everything "OverKill" is my middle name smile.gif
Same here. Monoprice 12 AWG is cheap enough that you don't save much going with 14 AWG.
post #23629 of 35220
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Originally Posted by malmstump View Post

Hi mschu18 ,yes that is an awesome deal you should jump in it,also if you want the matching klf c7 there s a guy in north Carolina asking 200 so 900 $ total kinda like my deal that I just got.best speakers bar none

I should get them for my rears... I ran KLF 10's for a while as rears, not to bad.
post #23630 of 35220
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

Thanks!!

Should I just pick up 200ft - its a pretty big space and i have a 7.x setup.

any thoughts on a recommended subwoofer cable? I have the RW12D. Not sure if this came with one.

I burned up nearly 250 feet of 12ga CL2 wiring just a 5.2 setup, but of course this is entirely dependent on the room. Just be sure to order enough, I'd rather order more than I need so that I don't have to order more and wait to have the project finished.

I also have 2 Klipsch RW12D's, I bought 2 50 foot runs Mediabridge digital coaxial RCA on Amazon that were just barely long enough for my space. Mediabridge sells lots of high quality.cables that I've had success with, but that's not to say they perform any better than even cheaper alternatives available from Monoprice or elsewhere but they are well made. Really anything of decent quality will be fine I'm sure.
post #23631 of 35220
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Originally Posted by kemiza View Post

The banana plugs from Monoprice are crap that's why the price is so low. I bought some that's how I know.
Well i bought mine from there and quality is fine.....that's how i know....
post #23632 of 35220
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

Thanks!!

Should I just pick up 200ft - its a pretty big space and i have a 7.x setup.

any thoughts on a recommended subwoofer cable? I have the RW12D. Not sure if this came with one.

Check out BlueJeansCable.com for some quality wires and interconnects.
post #23633 of 35220
I bought a very long sub cable (50 feet) from monoprice and it was good quality, very thick and well shielded. Didn't pick up any extra noise or hum. Cheap too.
post #23634 of 35220
I just checked my Amazon history, the 50 foot Mediabridge Ultras that I bought were 19.99 each, not too bad.
post #23635 of 35220
Should I purchase banana plugs - if so which ones do you guys recommend? I have RS42II and RB51II and also have floor standing speakers as well as a center.

Do you guys also recommend speaker plates? I was thinking to use this has central patch for all the surround and rear speakers behind my console table... what are your thoughts. I was going to use another recessed wall plate for the HDMI run from the PJ to the receiver..

I just wanted to get the details worked out as im finalizing my install!!
post #23636 of 35220
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

Should I purchase banana plugs - if so which ones do you guys recommend? I have RS42II and RB51II and also have floor standing speakers as well as a center.

Do you guys also recommend speaker plates? I was thinking to use this has central patch for all the surround and rear speakers behind my console table... what are your thoughts. I was going to use another recessed wall plate for the HDMI run from the PJ to the receiver..

I just wanted to get the details worked out as im finalizing my install!!
the less different connections per wire the better , best is one wire from AVR/Amp terminal to speaker terminal no breaks If you catch my drift . HMDI this is important as well , signal loss is more pronounced the longer the run so a added connection adds more loss. Signal Loss is critical with HDMI . This question is best for the Home Theater build thread .
post #23637 of 35220
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

Should I purchase banana plugs - if so which ones do you guys recommend? I have RS42II and RB51II and also have floor standing speakers as well as a center.

Do you guys also recommend speaker plates? I was thinking to use this has central patch for all the surround and rear speakers behind my console table... what are your thoughts. I was going to use another recessed wall plate for the HDMI run from the PJ to the receiver..

I just wanted to get the details worked out as im finalizing my install!!

If you flush wall mount the RS's there will only be room for an open wall plate and bare wire to the connections. For everything else I had binding post wall plates installed and use spades for the RF-7 II and RC-64 II and bananas everywhere else. I'd have used bananas everywhere but they (GLS Gen 4 locking) don't fit on the klipschs so spades were used.

It's extremely unlikely you could ever tell the difference between terminated cables and non terminated cables as the poster above me argued. Of course people will go for the most scientific approach with their passion but could it be double blind verified? My wallet says no and I like the ease of disconnecting and reconnecting terminated cables.
post #23638 of 35220
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

Should I purchase banana plugs - if so which ones do you guys recommend? I have RS42II and RB51II and also have floor standing speakers as well as a center.

They aren't needed, but keep things clean and simple. I use these on my 7.1

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040115&p_id=2801&seq=1&format=2
post #23639 of 35220
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

Well i bought mine from there and quality is fine.....that's how i know....
Just a statement not a contest sir. I actually purchased the same ones in your link.
post #23640 of 35220
I love Monoprice . . . Even bought 50 pair of their banana plugs and both 12 gauge and 14 gauge wire . . Only one problem with them . . .12 gauge wire insulation does not fit inside the plug housing . . . You have to chop of the insulation right where the wire enters the plug . . . Just not going to fit the 12 gauge wire and insulation for that wire into a monoprice banana plug.

For 12 gauge, would buy the other option banana plugs next time.

Just my opinion.
Edited by Rhetor - 7/23/13 at 3:16pm
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