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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

the bass jubilee bin can be had as a separate item from a few dealers that would special order the bass bin from Klipsch
most all the Jubilee shown were put together that way , you can even order a choice of veneer as well with working with this established dealer .
there are very well established protocols on setting up the Jubilee bass bins from Ray Delgato ( the guy worked with PWK on design of the Jubs ) both passive & active .
All of this is well documented on the Klipsch forum .

 

^^^

This

 

You can get the Jubilee in industrial black or, as per the picture at the top of the page (which is current production style) with a Walnut, maybe Cherry front panel.  You can put a passive on it or an active.  Some prefer one, some prefer the other.

 

Big horn too big?  You can get the smaller horn and make your own 'Khorn style' tophat to enclose it.

 

Regarding the massive size of the big horn...  One thing is for sure...  the larger size controls the sound better than a smaller horn.  I had a chance to compare the large horn to the smaller horn (K510) while inside their anechoic chamber.  The large horn was undeniably controlling the sound better.  Meaning, you could stand behind the horns and hear less of the sound behind the large horn.  The smaller horn let more sound wrap around it and go to the rear.

 

What does this mean?  Ultimately, it means there is less sound 'splashing' around places where you probably don't want it (side walls & rear walls).  It would give you a better starting point with regard to room treatments.

 

The 'Golden Jubilee' as pictured above was funded by PWK's wife.  I understand she had two or three sets made.  One went to the author of the autobiography (and he's since sold them), she might have kept a pair and the other pair is in the PWK museum at his old college.  Come to think of it, I'm not sure she has a pair as the speaker I saw in her house was more like the one in the picture with PWK sitting next to it.

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Delgado wink.gif

post #23883 of 35250
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Originally Posted by coytee View Post

^^^
This

You can get the Jubilee in industrial black or, as per the picture at the top of the page (which is current production style) with a Walnut, maybe Cherry front panel.  You can put a passive on it or an active.  Some prefer one, some prefer the other.

Big horn too big?  You can get the smaller horn and make your own 'Khorn style' tophat to enclose it.

Regarding the massive size of the big horn...  One thing is for sure...  the larger size controls the sound better than a smaller horn.  I had a chance to compare the large horn to the smaller horn (K510) while inside their anechoic chamber.  The large horn was undeniably controlling the sound better.  Meaning, you could stand behind the horns and hear less of the sound behind the large horn.  The smaller horn let more sound wrap around it and go to the rear.

What does this mean?  Ultimately, it means there is less sound 'splashing' around places where you probably don't want it (side walls & rear walls).  It would give you a better starting point with regard to room treatments.

The 'Golden Jubilee' as pictured above was funded by PWK's wife.  I understand she had two or three sets made.  One went to the author of the autobiography (and he's since sold them), she might have kept a pair and the other pair is in the PWK museum at his old college.  Come to think of it, I'm not sure she has a pair as the speaker I saw in her house was more like the one in the picture with PWK sitting next to it.

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Originally Posted by coytee View Post

Delgado wink.gif
Corrected Roy's name ...

Hats off to Coytee ,
most everything I know about Jubes comes from reading his posts , I have been reading every post I can find on Jubes & most have been with Coytee in those threads . . I have wanted Jubes from the 1st time they were even rumored to being built when Paul was still alive . I never really wanted a KHorn after hearing about the Jubilee smile.gif
post #23884 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

didn't mean to talk down at Ya ! that was not my intent on that , I am sorry

I was putting the explanations out there to people who don't understand the differences , lot's of guys don't understand the meanings of the terms
Again Sorry

I'm the one who's sorry. Just having a bad day in paradise.
post #23885 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

I'm the one who's sorry. Just having a bad day in paradise.
we all have days like that , we're cool ?
post #23886 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Don't know what you mean by "active." They are a passive speaker requiring an electronic crossover.

Here is the new Jubilee that Klipsch sells.

http://www.klipsch.com/kpt-jubilee-535

I don't think it comes with a passive crossover. Look at the specs tab; it mentions delays between bass bin and HF sections.

I only know of a few people on the Klipsch forum implementing a passive crossover, and the crossovers didn't come from Klipsch.

See http://www.avsforum.com/t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/19020#post_22045184
post #23887 of 35250
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

I don't think it comes with a passive crossover. Look at the specs tab; it mentions delays between bass bin and HF sections.

I only know of a few people on the Klipsch forum implementing a passive crossover, and the crossovers didn't come from Klipsch.

See http://www.avsforum.com/t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/19020#post_22045184
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post


Corrected Roy's name ...

Hats off to Coytee ,
most everything I know about Jubes comes from reading his posts , I have been reading every post I can find on Jubes & most have been with Coytee in those threads . . I have wanted Jubes from the 1st time they were even rumored to being built when Paul was still alive . I never really wanted a KHorn after hearing about the Jubilee smile.gif

Same here, Coytee has listened to about every 402 that is out there. . When I clicked on the link from Psgcdn I remembered that pic of those networks WOW they are awsome. There is a memeber at Audio Karma "SET12 " he has built some really expensive networks for his Forte II Klipsch speakers. But the one's in the link are even more expensive and he programs them from a PC from what I saw in the pic's. WOW and I thought my new cedar boards with Crites Type B networks were nice... serious $$ to play these Klipsch speakers...way out my budget.
post #23888 of 35250
I can get the Klipsch KLF-10 pair and KLF-C7 in good condition for $600. According to Klipsch website, these were last built in 2001. Any of these speakers' owner here? Are these good speakers? Is it good price? Thanks.
post #23889 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Klipsc Guy View Post

What are the loudest floor speakers under 2000 a pair??

something used in the KP line!
post #23890 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Cowboys View Post

I can get the Klipsch KLF-10 pair and KLF-C7 in good condition for $600. According to Klipsch website, these were last built in 2001. Any of these speakers' owner here? Are these good speakers? Is it good price? Thanks.

The C7 center is Great and worth $300.00 shipped on Ebay..... I like all the KLF10/20/30 the 10's are two way as the horn does double duty for voice and treble. For HT they are awsome with a sub. For music without a sub just OK(smaller woofers).with a sub Nice.I liked the 20/30 better as they had a seperate tweeter (3ways with two larger woofers) but cost more. If all 3 are nice looking and sound good this price is not out of line. If you will read back a few pages I posted the early KLF had a few with Q.C. problems. As the glue did not stick to the coating Klisch applied on the inside of the cabinet. They changed the process and all was fine for rest of the production run. Use your knuckle on the side of the cabinet near the rear and front motor board seams and give it rap every few inches going all the way down if it sounds dull the seams are loose and just need to be reglued. No big deal I have done this to KLF20's. Remove the drivers and reglue etc. some use 3/4X3/4" wood straping cut to the length of the cabinet and glue them in the corners to help brace the and seal the seams. If they are hooked up when go to buy them have the seller turn them up with some bass and stand behind them to see if they rattle from loose seams. A lot of owners never even notice if they are loose inside in a few places, if they have a good sub hooked up(you can't hear the slight rattle). It does not really hurt the speaker if they leak a bit but it might losse some bass. Inform the seller what I have posted and try the knuckle process in front of him. Go to the Klipsch factory forum and do a KLF search for loose seams. There is a member that posted step by step pictures and text on how he repaired them and even did mod's to the inside. (print the pic's and take them with you to show the seller and see if he will take less$$ ) They ARE worth the trouble if these are early production runs.
http://www.klipsch.com/klf-10

I have watched about every Dallas game for the from when Dandy Don was the Q.B to now(game this week end). Aikman and the rest were AWSOME we got spoiled.

J.Jones may not know squat about football talent but he sure had a COOL stadium built. It is AWSOME inside.
Edited by Louis Bartay - 8/1/13 at 8:29am
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I miss Dandy Don "Turn out th' lights, th' party's over..."
post #23892 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Cowboys View Post

I can get the Klipsch KLF-10 pair and in good condition for $600. According to Klipsch website, these were last built in 2001. Any of these speakers' owner here? Are these good speakers? Is it good price? Thanks.
Caveat: I have never heard them...

65 lbs speaker with two 10" driver and a Tractrix Horn, with the center to match. Nice finish (veneered?). High sensitivity. The value is there. I would try them for sure.
post #23893 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

we all have days like that , we're cool ?

We're cool, Slappy.
post #23894 of 35250
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

Caveat: I have never heard them...

65 lbs speaker with two 10" driver and a Tractrix Horn, with the center to match. Nice finish (veneered?). High sensitivity. The value is there. I would try them for sure.
the klf-10 was quite different from the klf 20 or 30. The klf10 is pretty pedestrian comparatively, much less bass. In my opinion you'd be better off buying the center and then find 20's or 30's or even kg 5.5's. Just my opinion.
post #23895 of 35250
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

I don't think it comes with a passive crossover. Look at the specs tab; it mentions delays between bass bin and HF sections.

I only know of a few people on the Klipsch forum implementing a passive crossover, and the crossovers didn't come from Klipsch.

See http://www.avsforum.com/t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/19020#post_22045184

It comes with no crossover. I know there is specs from Roy Delgado for a Db38 (?).
post #23896 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Cowboys View Post

I can get the Klipsch KLF-10 pair and KLF-C7 in good condition for $600. According to Klipsch website, these were last built in 2001. Any of these speakers' owner here? Are these good speakers? Is it good price? Thanks.

They will make a very good start to an HT system. A nice sub and surrounds and you are set.
post #23897 of 35250
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

I don't think it comes with a passive crossover. Look at the specs tab; it mentions delays between bass bin and HF sections.

I only know of a few people on the Klipsch forum implementing a passive crossover, and the crossovers didn't come from Klipsch.

See http://www.avsforum.com/t/680426/klipsch-owner-thread/19020#post_22045184

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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post


Same here, Coytee has listened to about every 402 that is out there. . When I clicked on the link from Psgcdn I remembered that pic of those networks WOW they are awsome. There is a memeber at Audio Karma "SET12 " he has built some really expensive networks for his Forte II Klipsch speakers. But the one's in the link are even more expensive and he programs them from a PC from what I saw in the pic's. WOW and I thought my new cedar boards with Crites Type B networks were nice... serious $$ to play these Klipsch speakers...way out my budget.
that pix is the DX38 of Coytee's IIRC he was showing the difference between the two ; the cost is No object passive network & his DX38 active
there are alot of active electronic processors that can be used as a active crossover now (DX38 is not made anymore, but you can still get them )
some of the new stuff is quite interesting from analog processors ,to digital ones like the DX38 to the Mini DSP's here's a link to MiniDSP
http://www.minidsp.com/index.php?option=com_acymailing&ctrl=archive&task=view&mailid=22&key=b9484ad36578be8ba18f5a0f8a12ef89&subid=3878-cfe7651a262ede542784a195a3974082&tmpl=component
caveat ; these active electronic devices all are very complicated devices to set-up but once setup , use is fairly simple after a steep learning curve smile.gif , all need external amplification to each driver in a speaker & then multiply that by how many speakers in your system.
not for the faint of heart but a tweakers dream come true , they can even EQ each driver as well .
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here's a explanation of what a miniDSP is & how they work
http://www.minidsp.com/products/the-product-concept
they now have some cool DSP & amp combos that could be used as a crossover combined with a self power amp that can be controlled with a PC with each speaker being selfpowered & programmable (plug in a Ethernet cable set the filters & then leave as is ) Cool stuff cool.gif
post #23899 of 35250
I use a miniDSP to EQ my sub. It would be great to know how to program one for Jubes; it's very cheap compared to a DX38!
post #23900 of 35250
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Originally Posted by superedge88 View Post

the klf-10 was quite different from the klf 20 or 30. The klf10 is pretty pedestrian comparatively, much less bass. In my opinion you'd be better off buying the center and then find 20's or 30's or even kg 5.5's. Just my opinion.
I can get the klf20 and klfc7 for $850. Good price?
post #23901 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

The C7 center is Great and worth $300.00 shipped on Ebay..... I like all the KLF10/20/30 the 10's are two way as the horn does double duty for voice and treble. For HT they are awsome with a sub. For music without a sub just OK(smaller woofers).with a sub Nice.I liked the 20/30 better as they had a seperate tweeter (3ways with two larger woofers) but cost more. If all 3 are nice looking and sound good this price is not out of line. If you will read back a few pages I posted the early KLF had a few with Q.C. problems. As the glue did not stick to the coating Klisch applied on the inside of the cabinet. They changed the process and all was fine for rest of the production run. Use your knuckle on the side of the cabinet near the rear and front motor board seams and give it rap every few inches going all the way down if it sounds dull the seams are loose and just need to be reglued. No big deal I have done this to KLF20's. Remove the drivers and reglue etc. some use 3/4X3/4" wood straping cut to the length of the cabinet and glue them in the corners to help brace the and seal the seams. If they are hooked up when go to buy them have the seller turn them up with some bass and stand behind them to see if they rattle from loose seams. A lot of owners never even notice if they are loose inside in a few places, if they have a good sub hooked up(you can't hear the slight rattle). It does not really hurt the speaker if they leak a bit but it might losse some bass. Inform the seller what I have posted and try the knuckle process in front of him. Go to the Klipsch factory forum and do a KLF search for loose seams. There is a member that posted step by step pictures and text on how he repaired them and even did mod's to the inside. (print the pic's and take them with you to show the seller and see if he will take less$$ ) They ARE worth the trouble if these are early production runs.
http://www.klipsch.com/klf-10

I have watched about every Dallas game for the from when Dandy Don was the Q.B to now(game this week end). Aikman and the rest were AWSOME we got spoiled.

J.Jones may not know squat about football talent but he sure had a COOL stadium built. It is AWSOME inside.
Thanks for a detail reply. Football is here this Sunday. I go to a game or two every year at the new now called AT&T stadium and it is very very nice top with 60 yards Hi-def TV.
post #23902 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Cowboys View Post

I can get the klf20 and klfc7 for $850. Good price?
yes , depending on the condition being prime !
the 30's are the best as that 12" woofer as easy to find if ever a need to replace as it's the same as a Heresy,Jubilee woof
they all have parts that can be replaced on the very active Klipsh after-market parts scene
post #23903 of 35250
Good morning, how's all my Klipsch bros doing this fine day ? cool.gif
post #23904 of 35250
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

Good morning, how's all my Klipsch bros doing this fine day ? cool.gif
I'm doing so so sorta still dealing with the accident fallout , how about yourself ?
post #23905 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Cowboys View Post

I can get the klf20 and klfc7 for $850. Good price?

If they are in really nice condition I would go for the 30's but that is just me. For HT only with a sub and that C7 the 10's are great for HT and less money. 20/30 are better over all.
Just depends on our budget.if you can afford it get the 30's and do the same as I posted. print out the pic's from Klipsch Forum and take them with you.
I have listened to all three of the KLF series and like them all but as I said the 10 with a sub are best for HT Blurays. The 30's have a lot more mods that can be done. Crites has cast frame 12" woofers for the Heresy II and KLF30 that match up to the stock x/overs great.
post #23906 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

I'm doing so so sorta still dealing with the accident fallout , how about yourself ?
I'm doing fair to partly cloudy biggrin.gif
Accident fallout ?
post #23907 of 35250
Received F30's today and wound up going with C10 for CC. Hope to set up a bit later….. although, must admit; very disappointed in Klipsch support. I emailed twice asking about placing the C20 in a vertical position (due to my net center) and never heard back. Looking forward to setting up!
post #23908 of 35250
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post


I'm doing fair to partly cloudy biggrin.gif
Accident fallout ?
I got rear-ended by a semi hauling gravel , I was at a dead stop he hit me doing freeway speed , I think he was looking at his phone
been off work since , lucky I was at work at the time
post #23909 of 35250
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

I use a miniDSP to EQ my sub. It would be great to know how to program one for Jubes; it's very cheap compared to a DX38!
I will get a miniDSP for my 9 channel system in the near future , I'm just waiting until they mature & when I finally get my all my cabinets done , right now I have personnel issues that have to be resolved
post #23910 of 35250
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

I got rear-ended by a semi hauling gravel , I was at a dead stop he hit me doing freeway speed , I think he was looking at his phone
been off work since , lucky I was at work at the time

O U C H !!

Take care my friend!
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