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post #27211 of 35202
Big Jesus message me your email and I can shoot you my last price quite on some of the more affordable cinema speakers.
post #27212 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

If you haven't already bought the speakers then a few adjustments ;;;;; use 81's for the heights you want all to match horn wise & consider a RC-64 for the center
RS62's that is as big as the surrounds get so that's not a problem
Your gonna need a power amp .

use this as a guide to positioning

heights go up at the ceiling above the mains & wides go wide in the corners

sub placement is dependent on the room & then when you place them it's best to move them around to find all the nulls & modes where they cancel at .
in other words trail & error on sub placement
you mention matching horns and then recommend a much bigger center with way bigger hf driver? The RB-61's would be plenty for that setup. The rc-64 is subjective with 82's. Lots use it I never would as it isn't the matching center to rf-82's
post #27213 of 35202

I do have all of the speakers already, so changing would be a bit hard ( i am at the max with the minister of war and finances ).

 

Funnily enough on the power amp / pre amp I have a conundrum...

 

I currently have a Marantz SR7008 and a sony DA5300ES and I need tochange as they dont do 11.2

 

I have to friends who funnily enough work for audio companies.

 

One works for Yamaha and has said I should get a Yamaha MX-5000 ( 11.2 plus the ability to bi-ap my fronts ) + Yamaha CX-5000 ( 11.2 plus the ability to bi-amp my fronts ) combo to be able to run the whole system at once and do it properly running all 11.2 for my movies.

 

The other works for Marantz ( hence my conundrum ). Wants me to buy a combo of the Marantz AV8801 ( 11.2 ) + 2 X NAD T977 ( 14 channels in total so I could connect all 11 speakers and room to spare to bi-amp my fronts ).

 

They are both good salesman and friends and I'm confused because they both want me to get there product, not that they will be upset or cut if I get the other one or another option all together however I am getting these at a good price if I get it from them.I was hoping for some help to make the right choice for me.

 

:)

post #27214 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Scrappydue View Post

you mention matching horns and then recommend a much bigger center with way bigger hf driver? The RB-61's would be plenty for that setup. The rc-64 is subjective with 82's. Lots use it I never would as it isn't the matching center to rf-82's
I've had both the RC62 & RC64 I liked the 64 better & the 81's match the towers as they are the same size horn , heights & wides work best if the HF drivers are the same as your mains , as the heights / wides are a matrix of the same signal , I had slightly smaller heights / wides than my mains & I could tell the differences in MY room . YMMV
post #27215 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Henhrig View Post

Hello,


2 X KLIPSCH SW-310

With the amount you're spending and the amount of thought you've put into it I would REALLY, REALLY think about some other choice for your subs. Those little things are going to get lost in all the klipsch volume. wink.gif

Look at subs from SVS, PSA, Rythmik and HSU.
post #27216 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Henhrig View Post

I do have all of the speakers already, so changing would be a bit hard ( i am at the max with the minister of war and finances ).

Funnily enough on the power amp / pre amp I have a conundrum...

I currently have a Marantz SR7008 and a sony DA5300ES and I need tochange as they dont do 11.2

I have to friends who funnily enough work for audio companies.

One works for Yamaha and has said I should get a Yamaha MX-5000 ( 11.2 plus the ability to bi-ap my fronts ) + Yamaha CX-5000 ( 11.2 plus the ability to bi-amp my fronts ) combo to be able to run the whole system at once and do it properly running all 11.2 for my movies.

The other works for Marantz ( hence my conundrum ). Wants me to buy a combo of the Marantz AV8801 ( 11.2 ) + 2 X NAD T977 ( 14 channels in total so I could connect all 11 speakers and room to spare to bi-amp my fronts ).

They are both good salesman and friends and I'm confused because they both want me to get there product, not that they will be upset or cut if I get the other one or another option all together however I am getting these at a good price if I get it from them.I was hoping for some help to make the right choice for me.

smile.gif
there are no REAL benefits to bi-amping , your Not doubling the useable power to the speak ers . I'm all for the dual NAD T977 power amps thou the extra channels can be used for another zone maybe .
that Yamaha amp will not do , it's under powered as it only rated for 150 watts 2 channels driven it will not push all 11 channels @ 150 each channel AB amps that weight only 56 lbs just can't do that
that NAD does a real 140 watts On ALL 7 channels & 1000 watts peak but just get one & two of these
NAD C 275BEE http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/C-275BEE-Stereo-Power-Amplifier they are rated the same as the 7 channel NAD @ 140 per channel 7+2+2=11 balanced power on all channels

.split the differences get the Yammy Pre/pro & the NAD amps I listed above
Edited by Fastslappy - 10/15/13 at 6:48pm
post #27217 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Kini62 View Post


With the amount you're spending and the amount of thought you've put into it I would REALLY, REALLY think about some other choice for your subs. Those little things are going to get lost in all the klipsch volume. wink.gif

Look at subs from SVS, PSA, Rythmik and HSU.

 

The only problem is I already have acquired them ( I won the whole system in a promo ) so I could but the minister might have a problem with me spending money when I also need to buy a new pre/pro amp. I guess I could use the money fro selling the SONY/MARANTZ and the two SUBS but im not sure if funds will still handle the upgrade of 2 subs and a pre/pro :(

post #27218 of 35202
Emotiva has a sale on just about everything right now !

http://emotiva.com/
post #27219 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

Emotiva has a sale on just about everything right now !

http://emotiva.com/

can i get them into Australia though. Wont that cost a arm and a leg and then some?

post #27220 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post


there are no REAL benefits to bi-amping , your Not doubling the useable power to the speak ers . I'm all for the dual NAD T977 power amps thou the extra channels can be used for another zone maybe .
that Yamaha amp will not do , it's under powered as it only rated for 150 watts 2 channels driven it will not push all 11 channels @ 150 each channel AB amps that weight only 56 lbs just can't do that
that NAD does a real 140 watts On ALL 7 channels & 1000 watts peak but just get one & two of these
NAD C 275BEE http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/C-275BEE-Stereo-Power-Amplifier they are rated the same as the 7 channel NAD @ 140 per channel 7+2+2=11 balanced power on all channels

.split the differences get the Yammy Pre/pro & the NAD amps I listed above

So The Yammy PRE is better than the MARANTZ then?

 

If I am ever to do a Zone 2 I would probably buy another basic amp as this room is going to be specifically for the HT.

post #27221 of 35202
I would like to someday get either the RS-42, 52, or 62's for my rear surround speakers. They will have to go on the side walls behind the seating area. I would like to ideally embed them into the wall at an angle toward the listening area. Is this possible? How is this done? Do people use some sort of wood frame for speakers in the wall? This would be in drywall.
Thanks
Mike
post #27222 of 35202
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Originally Posted by dmikester1 View Post

I would like to someday get either the RS-42, 52, or 62's for my rear surround speakers. They will have to go on the side walls behind the seating area. I would like to ideally embed them into the wall at an angle toward the listening area. Is this possible? How is this done? Do people use some sort of wood frame for speakers in the wall? This would be in drywall.
Thanks
Mike

The RS42,52 and 62 are all side ported to the bottom rear and should be flush mounted.. Recessing them into the wall would be a bad idea. If you must recess, consider a pair of front ported book shelf's which are either the RB61II's or RB81II's...
post #27223 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Henhrig View Post

So The Yammy PRE is better than the MARANTZ then?

If I am ever to do a Zone 2 I would probably buy another basic amp as this room is going to be specifically for the HT.
I actually lean Integra / Onkyo as their video processor is better but that is a personal choice , you'd have to pick what you like , that Marantz is pricey the Onkyo 5509 is cheaper & both have audyssey XT32
post #27224 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Henhrig View Post

can i get them into Australia though. Wont that cost a arm and a leg and then some?
didn't know you were in the down under smile.gif
post #27225 of 35202
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Originally Posted by BigCoolJesus View Post

See, this is where I am getting lost. You guys keep mentioning driver swaps implying each speaker can be customized. And for some reason I am a little intimidated looking at the line-up on Klipschs website. Feeling a little lost. lol

 

The Klipschorn is a 3-way speaker.  PWK wanted to take it back to a 2-way design and started working on the project.

 

The end result was the Juiblee (which is the bass bin)

 

The project was never finalized as he passed away.  The company shelved the idea of a residential version, keeping the original Klipschorn.

 

Later, they had a need in the cinema lineup, Roy said "but wait....we have this we might use"....and pulled out the Jubilee bass bin.

 

For cinema use, it's all about output and coverage so they made it a 3-way monster.

 

They took the Jubilee bass bin, mated it with a midrange horn (K402) with a midrange driver (K1132/1133) hanging on it and a tweeter horn (K510) with a tweeter driver (K69) hanging on it.

 

When the idea of fools putting them in their home, Roy realized that they didn't need the raw output that the 3-way version gave.  He also knew that its original intent was to be a 2-way.

 

He got to thinking....  realized that he could remove the tweeter horn (K510) but, KEEP the tweeter driver (K69).  He could then keep the MIDRANGE horn (K402) and lose the midrange driver (K1132/33...I never remember which driver is 'stock').

 

So you start with a 3 way speaker, moving the tweeter driver to the midrange horn.  Ditch the tweeter horn and the midrange driver.

 

This is what was done.

 

There were several buyers who ended up with the wrong driver on their unit.  This was finally verified once on my trip to London.  Ralph had ordered/bought a pair of Jubilee's to be sent to England.  I was over there and visited with him.  I noticed that the 'bug screen' on his driver was missing and there was sort of a tube there (throat).

 

I feared that Klipsch had stuffed some junked drivers on there that were missing the screens.

 

Unknown to me, Ralph had been having side discussions with Roy, stating that his speakers didn't have enough "tinkle".

 

While I was there, I took a picture of it and sent it to Roy to let him "see" the problem.  The instant he saw it he asked Ralph to turn speaker around & see what driver was on the back.  Sure enough, it was the midrange driver hence, no tinkle!

 

Roy sent the correct driver out & Ralph, much to the joy of his Urologist, had his tinkle restored.

 

 

Roy has since created a SKU number so that this setup now has a part number.  If the dealer is unaware of this, you will likely get the wrong part.

 

Anyone considering a pair is well advised to contact someone who's walked the walk to get the best course of action.

post #27226 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post
there's alot of Happy Campers with 402 's in their set-ups tongue.gif

 

I'd personally like to find a couple people that are unhappy with their K402's as I'd like to have a couple more for outdoor use.  Unfortunately, I keep hearing them say something about "from my dead cold hands"

 

Any idea what that means? :rolleyes:

post #27227 of 35202
Guys, I've been considering upgrading the crossovers in my KG3.2's (20 years old). Well actually I'm going to do it in the near future with some crossovers from Crites. What my question is is should I upgrade the tweeters to the Ti. diaphragms from Crites while I'm at it? My set up is as follows: mains KG 3.2, SC-1 center, KSB 1.1 surrounds, and 10 in Klipsch Reference Sub (can't remember model number right now!).

For those who upgraded their crossovers with Crites. Did you notice a difference after the upgrade?
post #27228 of 35202
I'm really tired of having only 3.1 setup. I have had the surround speakers since I bought the set but haven't had time to set them up.

One of my main issues is the best way to splice the wires. I originally thought the speakers would be in the back, but now I have decided to place them as side surrounds. So the wires aren't long enough. What is the best way to connect the wires to extend the length?

I have some butt connectors but had trouble getting them to connect properly. I have some wire nuts but I feel like that is not the best method. Maybe I should just try some different butt connectors? The ones I have I couldn't get them to crimp at all, and the plastic just shredded when I put more pressure.
post #27229 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Scrappydue View Post

Big Jesus message me your email and I can shoot you my last price quite on some of the more affordable cinema speakers.

PM @ you
post #27230 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Henhrig View Post

( I won the whole system in a promo )

Nice! That's quite a promo and a nice win for you. cool.gif
post #27231 of 35202
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Originally Posted by baloo_btru View Post

I'm really tired of having only 3.1 setup. I have had the surround speakers since I bought the set but haven't had time to set them up.

One of my main issues is the best way to splice the wires. I originally thought the speakers would be in the back, but now I have decided to place them as side surrounds. So the wires aren't long enough. What is the best way to connect the wires to extend the length?

I have some butt connectors but had trouble getting them to connect properly. I have some wire nuts but I feel like that is not the best method. Maybe I should just try some different butt connectors? The ones I have I couldn't get them to crimp at all, and the plastic just shredded when I put more pressure.
Is this going to be in a wall?
I'd use solder covered by splicing tape.
post #27232 of 35202
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Originally Posted by Kini62 View Post

Nice! That's quite a promo and a nice win for you. cool.gif

Indeed! Wow!
post #27233 of 35202
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Originally Posted by btmac View Post

For those who upgraded their crossovers with Crites. Did you notice a difference after the upgrade?

I noticed a way bigger difference updating caps first then I did later swapping out the crossover entirely (plus I changed a crossover frequency with the new network), but YMMV.
post #27234 of 35202
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

Is this going to be in a wall?
I'd use solder covered by splicing tape.

No they are not in wall. This is for the last several feet which are out of the wall and will be run around the trim. The connection will be hidden out of the way and just a few inches of wire will actually show (but from the extended part; no connections will show).

In terms of fidelity, is any method far superior to the others. Of course the wire nuts look the worst, but if there are no fidelity issues then I don't really care since it will be hidden.
post #27235 of 35202
Bought some new toys the other day. Really loving the RF-7ii's.

So far, I don't notice any difference for movies between the RF-7ii / RC-64ii and the RF-83 / RC-64.

For 2ch, there was a difference. I brought a pair of the RF-7ii's and the RF-83's into my living room where I had my Cherry RF-7's setup to compare the three.

I spent an hour A/B between the three speakers using selections from Norah Jones, Hotel California, Nichole Nordeman, Acoustical, Jazz and a few other varieties of music.

During my comparison, the RF-7's were the brightest sounding of the three. Very detailed. Not really "harsh" as some would describe them, but definitely very forward sounding. The RF-83's were the smoothest sounding, most laid back of the three. Very soft, sultry sound, yet maintaining details. RF-83's have a bigger sound than the RF-7's. The RF-7ii's were right in between the other two. Very detailed, yet smoother sounding than the RF-7's but not as laid back as the RF-83's.

After an hour of A/B comparison, to my ears, I preferred the RF-7ii's for 2ch listening so I listed my Cherry RF-7's for sale last night.









post #27236 of 35202
I love the new color of the woofers in the 7ii's. They are more Copper color vs the Gold color of the RF-83's. At first, the 2/3 grill on the 7ii's looked odd but it's growing on me. It provides an opportunity to show off the front wood veneer when the grills are on. Overall, I'm VERY pleased with the RF-7ii's.
post #27237 of 35202
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Originally Posted by youthman View Post

I love the new color of the woofers in the 7ii's. They are more Copper color vs the Gold color of the RF-83's. At first, the 2/3 grill on the 7ii's looked odd but it's growing on me. It provides an opportunity to show off the front wood veneer when the grills are on. Overall, I'm VERY pleased with the RF-7ii's.

LOL, Always wondered when this day would come! eek.gif Knowing you, they must have been quite a steal. Congratz Michael and as always awesome pictures!
post #27238 of 35202
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Originally Posted by baloo_btru View Post

In terms of fidelity, is any method far superior to the others. Of course the wire nuts look the worst, but if there are no fidelity issues then I don't really care since it will be hidden.

No difference in fidelity really, if the connection is good.
post #27239 of 35202
Youth! That's a lot of speakers!!! Wow!!
post #27240 of 35202
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

Youth! That's a lot of speakers!!! Wow!!

4 RF7II's?
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