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post #28531 of 35255
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Originally Posted by Cowboys View Post

^^
Between the 2 subs mentioned, I'd go with dual xv15's.

Any reason in particular? As far as I know the dual XV15s are around $200 more expensive, so I'm trying to find out are they worth the extra dough.
post #28532 of 35255
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Originally Posted by freespace303 View Post

Well ever since I upgraded to the UMC-200/UPA-700, I've ended up turning the center down a couple notches. But before and after the avr/amp upgrade, I've been yearning for more bass. Also, I just upgraded to that center channel, so I'd rather throw money somewhere else atm.
Center is arguably the most important speaker for home theater. That c2 will go loud, but wont have "oomph". In saying that im sure 2 good subs will give lots of "oomph", just in a different way
post #28533 of 35255
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Originally Posted by freespace303 View Post

Any reason in particular? As far as I know the dual XV15s are around $200 more expensive, so I'm trying to find out are they worth the extra dough.
Based on databass number and a member here (Brian Fineberg) who had the pb12 and upgraded to the xv15. He now has dual xs30's. He said it was much better with the xv15. PM him for more info.
post #28534 of 35255
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Originally Posted by freespace303 View Post

Now that I've upgraded just about everything (most recent being the Emotiva combo), I'm really feelin my subs are my weakest link now. I'm thinkin of going dual PSA-XV15s or dual PB12-NSDs. Thoughts?


Current setup...

Room size is 17'x14'x9', only one opening to a hallway at the rear

AVR - UMC-200/UPA-700

Fronts - Klipsch KF-28
Center - Klipsch C2
Sides - Klipsch VS-14
Rears - Klipsch VS-14

Sub1 - Klipsch RW-12D
Sub2 - Infinity HTS-20

PRJ - Mitsubishi HC5
SCN - 120" cinewhite

700



My good friend(4 KLF-20/C7) purchased(local Craigs List) a used MINT one year old (still in warranty) PB Ultra 13 for $1,100.00 ............ WOW . it is blows away his velodyne 15. Always look at the woofer on these subs you get my point. I have not listened to the the others you listed but this one is hard to beat. I was surprised how hard just One of these hits in large room. Try moving the subs you have to different places and see if this helps before you spend any money.
It took both of us to carry it to the van and I like the ports you can adjust for music and movies. The TOTL SVS tube(more for movies) and has a bit more BOOM on special effects but less detail on 2.1 music.
http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/ported-box/PB13-Ultra.html#.UqbnffRDt8E
post #28535 of 35255
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

My good friend(4 KLF-20/C7) purchased(local Craigs List) a used MINT one year old (still in warranty) PB Ultra 13 for $1,100.00 ............ WOW . it is blows away his velodyne 15. Always look at the woofer on these subs you get my point. I have not listened to the the others you listed but this one is hard to beat. I was surprised how hard just One of these hits in large room. Try moving the subs you have to different places and see if this helps before you spend any money.
It took both of us to carry it to the van and I like the ports you can adjust for music and movies. The TOTL SVS tube(more for movies) and has a bit more BOOM on special effects but less detail on 2.1 music.
http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/ported-box/PB13-Ultra.html#.UqbnffRDt8E

Wow, you got an insanely good deal! I would have snatched that up too if I saw that. I'm jealous!

*searches local DC craigslist...*

Wow! How about this one? Good deal?
SVS PC Ultra Cylinder Subwoofer - $450
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/ele/4234621674.html
Edited by freespace303 - 12/10/13 at 2:44am
post #28536 of 35255
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Originally Posted by Robbiey60 View Post

I would get a bigger center if it were me.

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Originally Posted by freespace303 View Post

Well ever since I upgraded to the UMC-200/UPA-700, I've ended up turning the center down a couple notches. But before and after the avr/amp upgrade, I've been yearning for more bass. Also, I just upgraded to that center channel, so I'd rather throw money somewhere else atm.

I gotta agree that your center is the weak link, not the subs.

Very nice setup BTW! My own preference would be to put the AV rack off to the side or back of the room and avoid any lights near the screen when watching a movie. It's better immersion that way. Might even allow you to drop the screen a little lower.
post #28537 of 35255
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I gotta agree that your center is the weak link, not the subs.
Very nice setup BTW! My own preference would be to put the AV rack off to the side or back of the room and avoid any lights near the screen when watching a movie. It's better immersion that way. Might even allow you to drop the screen a little lower.

i totally agree. perhaps put a curtain or wooden plate in front of the AV rack considering space shortage in the room, but lowering the screen gives better centered vision

post #28538 of 35255
Klipsch KSF 8.5/10.5 Question.
I found a pair of Klipsch KSF 10.5s on my local craigslist. I got a steal on a pair of KSF 8.5s for $75 a few months back. I really like how they sound. Would it be good to get the 10.5s and use them as my fronts now and move the 8.5s to the side? I currently have a 7.1 setup in my room. The 10.5s are listed at $225 currently.
post #28539 of 35255
I've just received the speaker to my home today

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post #28540 of 35255
Very nice system, gumati. Take pics of them when you get them set up.
post #28541 of 35255
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Originally Posted by freespace303 View Post

Wow, you got an insanely good deal! I would have snatched that up too if I saw that. I'm jealous!

*searches local DC craigslist...*

Wow! How about this one? Good deal?
SVS PC Ultra Cylinder Subwoofer - $450
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/ele/4234621674.html

That is a decent deal on that model. It's warranty is expired now but it would be nice for movies in a medium sized room with 8' ceiling.
The newer models have the digital amps in them now .......... and the larger magnets on the woofers. Go listen to it and see if you like it.
post #28542 of 35255
here picture still messy but cant wait to test it

post #28543 of 35255
Sweet!
post #28544 of 35255
now while trying to test the speakers i wired all speaker to receiver but only fronts and sub wokring

anyone can tell me whats wrong ?

update: it was in Stereo mode
Edited by gumati - 12/10/13 at 10:25am
post #28545 of 35255
What do you mean working? Are you playing a stereo source in stereo?
Did you run calibration?
post #28546 of 35255
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

What do you mean working? Are you playing a stereo source in stereo?
Did you run calibration?

was my mistake now working 100%
post #28547 of 35255
Hello Klipsch Fans!

Well, I am pretty excited as my new system just shipped. After many years of WAF struggles with floor standing speakers and me accommodating that with small foot print solutions, I grew tired of missing out on a multichannel setup and new technology, so I made a command decision and decided to upgrade. My buddy has Klipsch speakers and another has B&W of which I have listened to both for hours at parties at each of their homes. While I think B&W are a fantastic speaker, I always enjoyed the more in your face presence of Klipsch.

Here will be my new setup... 15x17 room - 5.1 is more that enough for this space.

Denon AVR X1000 (replaces TEAC Ref A-H500 Series - 2 channel -great little system)
Klipsch RF-62 II
Klipsch RC- 42 II
Orb Audio Mod2X
Orb Audio Super 8 Sub

I will roll with the Super 8 sub for now, but plan to replace it with an SVS - PB-1000 after the holidays. Hopefully everything will be here this week so i can get everything setup on Saturday.
Edited by PWH1 - 12/10/13 at 10:32am
post #28548 of 35255

B&W are nice speakers but they sound wooly in the lows and way to much colouring to the sound. this Orb is a nice design and certainly WAF proof lol. how does it sound ?

post #28549 of 35255
DaJoJo -

The Orbs have been a very nice speaker and have served us well. They really produce clean crisp sound and are impressive for a small footprint. I did have to send them out for rebuild once as my son put a hurting on them one night when we were out.mad.gif

How do you think the Super 8 Sub will fair in this configuration? I want the SVS, but cant swing it until 2014. While a smaller sub, it produces very crisp/tight base.

Thanks for any feedback.
post #28550 of 35255
Oops. I only have a minute but popped in and saw this:
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Originally Posted by DaJoJo View Post

lol Van Gogh is some character indeed. Born in Zundert, brabant 13 march 1853 being a pisces like me he is the more emotional and understanding and feelings kinda guy. when his brother that financed and guided him in his passions left the house to get married to his wife he got psychotic after his loved one gauguin left and made a fight with his brother. his brother theo wanted him to take care of himself and it got vincent mad and they started fighting like brothers tend to do. in the fight theo got scared of his lunatic brother and hit him with his sword so vincent with the razor in his hand got a beat from the sword taking a part of his ear with the razor. as theo would be prosecuted for that action and vincent would be without finance and support and brotherly love they made up the story that vincent himself took it of with a razor.

I apologize for a slight derailment of the thread and will make this my last comment on Vincent.

Theo was indeed the most important person in his life for so many different reasons and he was upset about the changing circumstances....That said, Vincent left the house that the brothers shared in Paris and moved to Arles, France in February 1888. The first and only time Theo visited him there was AFTER he cut his ear with a razor and Gaugin contacted him to let him know that his brother was injured and that he couldn't hang with the lunacy anymore...Shortly after sending a telegram stating this, his brother arrived by train and Gaugin left never to see him again. All of this happened in December 1888 and Theo and Joanna didn't even meet until early December 1888 (10 months after vincent moved from Paris).

Granted, finding out that his brother had found someone may have bothered Vincent, but Gaugin documents their differences and Vincent's (what he saw as) irrational tirades early in their corroboration, which only lasted a little over 2 months. I also feel that the sword incident may have some propagandist merit but that anecdote comes from the Frenchman's memoir and Theo wasn't involved. {Note: Historical record shows when Theo arrived in Arles in Dec 1888 by train and it was definitely after Vincent cut his own ear with a razor at the end of the month.}

Anyway--gotta go and enjoyed the discussion. smile.gif
Edited by Zen Traveler - 12/10/13 at 10:58am
post #28551 of 35255
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Originally Posted by PWH1 View Post

DaJoJo -

The Orbs have been a very nice speaker and have served us well. They really produce clean crisp sound and are impressive for a small footprint. I did have to send them out for rebuild once as my son put a hurting on them one night when we were out.mad.gif

How do you think the Super 8 Sub will fair in this configuration? I want the SVS, but cant swing it until 2014. While a smaller sub, it produces very crisp/tight base.

Thanks for any feedback.

The RF62s produce quite a bit of bass, likely much more than the 8" orb sub. Only way to see how it sounds is to try it. Try it with the RFs set to full range with the sub on, set to small with the sub on (of course) and full range with the sub off and see what sounds best to you.
post #28552 of 35255
Thanks Kini - I will play with it and see how well it responds. If its a detractor, I will simply pull it out of the mix until such time as I can pull of the SVS purchase.
post #28553 of 35255
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Originally Posted by PWH1 View Post

Thanks Kini - I will play with it and see how well it responds. If its a detractor, I will simply pull it out of the mix until such time as I can pull of the SVS purchase.


as the orb is a 8" woofer it can't go much lower then the rf-62II 4x6.5" woofers.

the SVS will do a little better in this aspect as it is a bigger size 10" and can releave the rf-62II to some extend but a 12" sub will give you so much better and lower lows and nicely filling the lower freqs as such and it is more matching to the rf-62.

i suggest to consider a bigger sub if you really need one. most music can do without and only a few movies actually use it.

edit: to not confuse i take into account the room size of 5x6 meters which really need a bigger sub on not so loud volumesetting. smaller room can do fine with a 10"


Edited by DaJoJo - 12/10/13 at 4:06pm
post #28554 of 35255
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post
I apologize for a slight derailment of the thread and will make this my last comment on Vincent.
Theo was indeed the most important person in his life for so many different reasons and he was upset about the changing circumstances....That said, Vincent left the house that the brothers shared in Paris and moved to Arles, France in February 1888. The first and only time Theo visited him there was AFTER he cut his ear with a razor and Gaugin contacted him to let him know that his brother was injured and that he couldn't hang with the lunacy anymore...Shortly after sending a telegram stating this, his brother arrived by train and Gaugin left never to see him again. All of this happened in December 1888 and Theo and Joanna didn't even meet until early December 1888 (10 months after vincent moved from Paris).
Granted, finding out that his brother had found someone may have bothered Vincent, but Gaugin documents their differences and Vincent's (what he saw as) irrational tirades early in their corroboration, which only lasted a little over 2 months. I also feel that the sword incident may have some propagandist merit but that anecdote comes from the Frenchman's memoir and Theo wasn't involved. {Note: Historical record shows when Theo arrived in Arles in Dec 1888 by train and it was definitely after Vincent cut his own ear with a razor at the end of the month.}
Anyway--gotta go and enjoyed the discussion. smile.gif

ah yes perhaps you're right. the documents found can have a different view and could be forged also. perhaps im mixing up the brother and the lover. nevertheless its a interesting story and we likely never going to find out what really happend there.

-end of story  .. they didn't have a klipsch fo sure lol :D;)

post #28555 of 35255
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post


I gotta agree that your center is the weak link, not the subs.

Very nice setup BTW! My own preference would be to put the AV rack off to the side or back of the room and avoid any lights near the screen when watching a movie. It's better immersion that way. Might even allow you to drop the screen a little lower.

Well, I just upgraded to that center channel, and don't find it lacking in any way. I actually find myself turning it down a notch or two. I'm still using some cheap RCA cables to interconnect my UMC-200 and UPA-700. (My Emotiva interconnects just got delivered, but alas, I'm off to work!)

The subs on the other hand, I want more out of them, but I hear them bottom out on some heavy scenes (Star Trek 2009 intro). I've got them in the position where I want them, and can't really place them anywhere else. I was thinking of moving the klipsch sub inbetween the two front recliners though, if/when I upgraded the subwoofers to something better.

In other news, I kinda like my AV equipment on display, and the UMC-200's display was a bit bright and annoying at first, but after dimming it down via the settings, it has blended in just fine with everything else, and don't really notice it when I'm watching a movie. As per the screen height, it was a lot of work mounting brackets and getting the screen where it is now, and I don't really feel like doing that all over again lol. I don't really have an issue with where it is either, it doesn't bother me.

My biggest take away from this is... is that 5 year old SVS Ultra 12 worth $450obo? Or should I spend the extra cash on a XV15 or newer SVS model? Which newer SVS model would be equivalent to that one on craigslist?

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/ele/4234621674.html
Edited by freespace303 - 12/10/13 at 4:18pm
post #28556 of 35255
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Originally Posted by freespace303 View Post
Well, I just upgraded to that center channel, and don't find it lacking in any way. I actually find myself turning it down a notch or two. I'm still using some cheap RCA cables to interconnect my UMC-200 and UPA-700. (My Emotiva interconnects just got delivered, but alas, I'm off to work!)
The subs on the other hand, I want more out of them, but I hear them bottom out on some heavy scenes (Star Trek 2009 intro). I've got them in the position where I want them, and can't really place them anywhere else. I was thinking of moving the klipsch sub inbetween the two front recliners though, if/when I upgraded the subwoofers to something better.
In other news, I kinda like my AV equipment on display, and the UMC-200's display was a bit bright and annoying at first, but after dimming it down via the settings, it has blended in just fine with everything else, and don't really notice it when I'm watching a movie.
My biggest take away from this is... is that 5 year old SVS Ultra 12 worth $450obo? Or should I spend the extra cash on a XV15 or newer SVS model? Which newer SVS model would be equivalent to that one on craigslist?
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/ele/4234621674.html

i would look for something with more amp power and newer. there are more settings on newer and it will likely blend in better in your current setup. SVS SB13 ultra is a good choice but the XV15 will do fine for a lower price.

post #28557 of 35255
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Originally Posted by DaJoJo View Post

i would look for something with more amp power and newer. there are more settings on newer and it will likely blend in better in your current setup. SVS SB13 ultra is a good choice but the XV15 will do fine for a lower price.
+1 on the SB13 Ultra!! Love mine!!!
post #28558 of 35255
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Originally Posted by gumati View Post

I've just received the speaker to my home today

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What sub did u get?
post #28559 of 35255
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Originally Posted by blue13x View Post
What sub did u get?

on the packaging and in his signature says: sw-115 :)

post #28560 of 35255
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

+1 on the SB13 Ultra!! Love mine!!!

As much as I would love a SB13 ultra, $2K is a bit too rich for my blood, and I like dual subs. I was thinkin dual XV15s, they are around $1.5k.
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