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The very earliest days of "stereo" showed a three-channel system was best. In the 50's that was pretty much deemed the optimal approach. Many manufacturers had center speaker designs and/or espoused the use of certain models as center speakers. Unfortunately, two-track recording and playback systems won, and two-channel stereo became the rule. There are a number of interesting historical articles about the back and forth on the 'net (and in your library).

I am a bit surprised that DVDs did not manage to revive the three-channel format since they have the capacity (and then some), but multi-channel seems to remain a very small niche.

Paul Klipsch was quite a guy, met him several times, strong opinions but always had solid reasoning behind them.

IMO - Don
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1972 Ad Copy from Kilpsch website says about Belle ideally suited for use as a Center between Klipschorns (paraphrase because I'm on iPhone)
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

My pico-cent's worth is that Bass Management is a lot more than just setting speakers to Small or Large.

Of course it is. The people who design our equipment and speakers put a lot of thought behind it. They used scientific principles to achieve their results and to make their products comply with THX, Dolby Digital and DTS standards which all are similar. In that world there is no "Small and Large." smile.gif
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Originally Posted by DonH50 View Post

The very earliest days of "stereo" showed a three-channel system was best. In the 50's that was pretty much deemed the optimal approach.

I understand that part of History but for the vast majority of us, up until 'multichannel' we appreciated "Stereo" in 2-channel, which it is called today...

Ironically, 5.1 is best matrixed into 7.1 imho. smile.gif
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Ah the days when stereos were wooden furniture with a speaker hidden inside with a phonograph on top where things were actually made in America. What a time to had lived.
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Belle's and Scala's were designed to be Khorns that don't have to go into a corner.

Makes a good point........ I have no idea on that one. My Brother had LaScala's.....WOW ..... add a killer sub and it's SERIOUS money to make them your shop speakers.

I have always wanted to borrow a pair of Belle's to listen too for a week or so smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Teremei View Post

Ah the days when stereos were wooden furniture with a speaker hidden inside with a phonograph on top where things were actually made in America. What a time to had lived.

Been there done that.....biggrin.gif ...............if your looking for tube amps some of those old consoles have a "Gem" hiding inside.
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Ha! For some reason I found this amusing and *interesting* all within of a few seconds:

This is the quote with the most likes on the AVSForum as of right now:
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

I mixed Riddick.

And I created the near field master used for BR, both the theatrical and directors cuts.

I worked had to maintain the dynamic range of the soundtrack.

There is no filtering.

I'm not sure how you can critique my work without listening to it, but I've been very happy with the reviews so far. smile.gif

That said, the Klipsch Owner Thread has the most posts and Dajojo has more posts than anyone by far including more "likes" than jdsmoothie (who is the second most prolific poster on that list) and this is the number 2 post with the most likes on all of AVSForum:
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

Zen I think hes just having a little fun smile.gif Quit being so serious. Just bend over and take a thumbs up like the rest of us. tongue.gif

Something poetic about that juxtaposition, imo. cool.gif
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Originally Posted by Skylinestar View Post

I wish Klipsch makes RC-82 to match with RF-82.
6.5" driver is just too small. biggrin.gif
that is why I got a rc64ii. I did contemplate rf82ii re-configured like that rf7ii but I am far from being a woodworker and the 64 sounds smoother. Rc82 would be pretty cool though, would dig a bit deeper
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Look up RC-7 for 8" woofers.
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Look up RC-7 for 8" woofers.
have read about these but simply do not exist here in New Zealand. On our 2nd hand market I have seen a few lascalas, 2 pairs khorns, 1 full rf83 system and that is it. Few and far between
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

That said, the Klipsch Owner Thread has the most posts and Dajojo has more posts than anyone by far including more "likes" than jdsmoothie (who is the second most prolific poster on that list) and this is the number 2 post with the most likes on all of AVSForum:

Klipsch Owner Thread has the most posts since a particular date? It's third in total count, and probably a few days away from being second.

And how do you sort by number of thumbs-up ?
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Look up RC-7 for 8" woofers.
For those of you lucky enough to have heard rc7, how does it hold up against the 64 and 64ii??
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I am not sure how a person's thumbs-up count is computed.

I have received 91 and given 47 but have a count of 157. confused.gif
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Originally Posted by Robbiey60 View Post

For those of you lucky enough to have heard rc7, how does it hold up against the 64 and 64ii??

Cuz you're just looking for something with 8" woofers, 4 6.5" woofers outperform 2 8" woofers.
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

I am not sure how a person's thumbs-up count is computed.

I have received 91 and given 47 but have a count of 157. confused.gif

I had so many humorous responses but must stay civil. smile.gif I have no idea how they come up with that number.

I only posted because after going to the AVS Homepage to see what new folks were seeing, saw those statistics and was amazed how this site has changed...
Edited by Zen Traveler - 1/5/14 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by Robbiey60 View Post

For those of you lucky enough to have heard rc7, how does it hold up against the 64 and 64ii??

The only speaker I've heard is the RC-7 between two RF-7s and it sounds Awesome and Seamless. Don't get the RC-64 to go with RF-7s or RF-7IIs. I've never heard the RC-64II with RF-7s, but know that the Center works well with the RF-7IIs.
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

Cuz you're just looking for something with 8" woofers, 4 6.5" woofers outperform 2 8" woofers.
Hmm. I agree and disagree. Mids from the 64 are killer, but the twin 8s drive a lot deeper. I wonder if a larger enclosure would have given the 64 a bit more bass?? And would that in turn hurt the mids??
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I received two KG4s (from a relative that hadn't used them for years, but had kept them clean and dry). Now I use them for my home theater. They sound much better than the speakers they replaced, so I like them. I am not a audiophile, but I enjoy good sound watching movies. I understand KG4 are fine speakers, not legendary and crap either. I've read forums where people say things like 'those are fine speakers and for a small amount of dollars you can they reconed, and the tweeter's changed to titantium.' I don't have complaints about the sound of these KG4s, but would it be a great idea for me to get them reconed and titantiumed? As a non-audiophile, would I be able to really appreciate the change?
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Originally Posted by Robbiey60 View Post

Hmm. I agree and disagree. Mids from the 64 are killer, but the twin 8s drive a lot deeper. I wonder if a larger enclosure would have given the 64 a bit more bass?? And would that in turn hurt the mids??

The reason the RC-64II was designed as it was so it could mate with the RF-7IIs and be a slimmer, thinner speaker because unlike the RC-7 which was designed to go on top of a large Rear Projection TV, the newer monitors were lighter and folks wanted something that could go under the TV for the Center Channel---Fwiw, both the RC-7 and RC-64II are large speakers.
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Originally Posted by XBR11 View Post

I received two KG4s (from a relative that hadn't used them for years, but had kept them clean and dry). Now I use them for my home theater. They sound much better than the speakers they replaced, so I like them. I am not a audiophile, but I enjoy good sound watching movies. I understand KG4 are fine speakers, not legendary and crap either. I've read forums where people say things like 'those are fine speakers and for a small amount of dollars you can they reconed, and the tweeter's changed to titantium.' I don't have complaints about the sound of these KG4s, but would it be a great idea for me to get them reconed and titantiumed? As a non-audiophile, would I be able to really appreciate the change?

I would start with getting the xo recapped. Then diaphragms, then recone, as needed.
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XBR11 in case you don't know xo stands for Crossover.
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Originally Posted by Robbiey60 View Post

Hmm. I agree and disagree. Mids from the 64 are killer, but the twin 8s drive a lot deeper. I wonder if a larger enclosure would have given the 64 a bit more bass?? And would that in turn hurt the mids??

I agree and disagree, also. Why, I don't know.

In my stinking thinking, I don't want a 30Hz sound coming out of my center. Why? See how far a woofer travels with a 30Hz sound going through it. Now, try to understand what the person is saying in the midrange region of that speaker. Not very detailed or precise. Muddied.

My center, with 2 8" woofers, is crossed at 80Hz. I get detailed and understandable vocals coming out of it, while the sub handles the low end redirected from the center.

An RC-64 II has a lower freq response than my Academy does. It also has a matrixed xo in it.
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

XBR11 in case you don't know xo stands for Crossover.

Thnx, Sancho. Old habits are hard to break. Plus, it's easier just to type "xo."
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Originally Posted by Robbiey60 View Post

For those of you lucky enough to have heard rc7, how does it hold up against the 64 and 64ii??
Sorry I may have worded this wrong. How does the rc7 compare to the rc64 and rc64ii?? Just want to know how the older gen stuff that I may never hear compares to the newer lines.
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Originally Posted by Robbiey60 View Post

Sorry I may have worded this wrong. How does the rc7 compare to the rc64 and rc64ii?? Just want to know how the older gen stuff that I may never hear compares to the newer lines.

Imo, don't look at an individual speaker but the front soundstage they were designed for.
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

I had so many humorous responses but must stay civil. smile.gif I have no idea how they come up with that number.

I only posted because after going to the AVS Homepage to see what new folks were seeing, saw those statistics and was amazed how this site has changed...
I never knew them stats were there.
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Originally Posted by cchunter View Post

I never knew them stats were there.

Congratulations. cool.gif
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Originally Posted by Mongo171 View Post

I agree and disagree, also. Why, I don't know.

In my stinking thinking, I don't want a 30Hz sound coming out of my center. Why? See how far a woofer travels with a 30Hz sound going through it. Now, try to understand what the person is saying in the midrange region of that speaker. Not very detailed or precise. Muddied.

My center, with 2 8" woofers, is crossed at 80Hz. I get detailed and understandable vocals coming out of it, while the sub handles the low end redirected from the center.

An RC-64 II has a lower freq response than my Academy does. It also has a matrixed xo in it.
Thankyou. I have never thought of the trouble a speaker would have producing dialogue while moving a lot. Something different to think about...
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Robbiey60,

I agree with Zen. You want your front three LCR speakers to be timbre-matched. That means the voicing is the same. A plane flying from the left speaker to the right speaker will sound seamless going through the center channel.
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