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post #3151 of 22813
Just got my Klipsch RC-52 and RF-52`s. Love them, haven`t totally played with them yet, I work evenings tomorrow and the kids are gone and the wife also will have to play while nobody is home in the daytime but me!!!!

Well a question for you more experienced Klipsch owners than me, I do love the RF-52`s but they are a tad big for my set-up and suggestions on a bookshelf speaker with stands that will give me a similar sound and matches the RC-52?

Let me know, I can live with the size, not sure the wife can. I got the RF-52`s at a sweet price, so that is also a consideration in exchanging to bookshelf speakers.

Thanks in advance...
post #3152 of 22813
I came across a pair of used RF-15s for what seems like a good price. Are the RF-15 a good speaker and is there a noticable difference between them and the RF-52's? I like the 52's but I can't afford them now, so are the 15's good enough that I can use them for a year or 2 and wouldn't be dissapointed with them? Right now I am just using the RB-51's as my fronts and little P.O.S.'s as the rears, and an RC-52 as the center.
post #3153 of 22813
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Originally Posted by Caanda45 View Post

Just got my Klipsch RC-52 and RF-52`s. Love them, haven`t totally played with them yet, I work evenings tomorrow and the kids are gone and the wife also will have to play while nobody is home in the daytime but me!!!!

Well a question for you more experienced Klipsch owners than me, I do love the RF-52`s but they are a tad big for my set-up and suggestions on a bookshelf speaker with stands that will give me a similar sound and matches the RC-52?

Let me know, I can live with the size, not sure the wife can. I got the RF-52`s at a sweet price, so that is also a consideration in exchanging to bookshelf speakers.

Thanks in advance...

Give the RB-61 a listen. They are pretty good bookshelves, specially when you integrate them with a decent sub. And they are the match to integrate with your RC-52,
post #3154 of 22813
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Originally Posted by Veers21 View Post

I came across a pair of used RF-15s for what seems like a good price. Are the RF-15 a good speaker and is there a noticable difference between them and the RF-52's? I like the 52's but I can't afford them now, so are the 15's good enough that I can use them for a year or 2 and wouldn't be dissapointed with them? Right now I am just using the RB-51's as my fronts and little P.O.S.'s as the rears, and an RC-52 as the center.

The RF-15 are from the previous Reference series, (replaced by the RF-52). There really shouldn't be a huge difference between the two. If you can find them at a good price, and you like the RF-52, the RF-15 should be fine.
post #3155 of 22813
All,

Complete newbie here when it comes to real speakers (as opposed to headphone). I finally ventured into speaker hi-fi and am loving it. I recently purchased the RF-52 and RC-52. These are okay, but I found that the RF-52 sounds veiled as compared to the RF-63.

I'm going to eventually be purchasing the RF-63 or the RF-83. Unfortunately, I don't know of any dealerships around me who are able to demo the RF-83. I really like what I hear with the RF-63 but how is that compared to the RF-83? I personally didn't like the RF-82 at all as I found that sounded very muddy and veiled. I am able to special order the RF-83 but I cannot return them as they are special orders.

Any help from you guys will be very much appreciated!

Thanks!
post #3156 of 22813
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Originally Posted by sionghchan View Post

All,

Complete newbie here when it comes to real speakers (as opposed to headphone). I finally ventured into speaker hi-fi and am loving it. I recently purchased the RF-52 and RC-52. These are okay, but I found that the RF-52 sounds veiled as compared to the RF-63.

I'm going to eventually be purchasing the RF-63 or the RF-83. Unfortunately, I don't know of any dealerships around me who are able to demo the RF-83. I really like what I hear with the RF-63 but how is that compared to the RF-83? I personally didn't like the RF-82 at all as I found that sounded very muddy and veiled. I am able to special order the RF-83 but I cannot return them as they are special orders.

Any help from you guys will be very much appreciated!

Thanks!

The RF-83 has a bit more bass.
However, if you have a subwoofer or plan on getting one, then the RF-63 is the better choice as it has the same drivers as RC-64.

I was planning on getting the RF-63 until I found a price for the RF-83s that I could not refuse (35% discount, below RF-63 list price).

If you can get a good price on RF-63 go for it without hesitation.
FYI - Klipsch now has authorized internet dealers for the the Reference line, so you should be able to get at least 20% discount.
post #3157 of 22813
World of difference on the 83s and the 82s. In sound quality and price. I like the 83s myself but couldn't swing the dough.
post #3158 of 22813
The RF-15 are a close match to the RF-52`s but not timbered, so if you are looking at a timber match the 15`s are not. I got this info from one of the sound enginers at Klipsch when I asked if they were indeed a timber match or not. Just an FYI. Price of the RF-52`s in Canada at London Drugs is arround the $399 a pair these days, which I think is pretty good!!!

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Originally Posted by Veers21
I came across a pair of used RF-15s for what seems like a good price. Are the RF-15 a good speaker and is there a noticable difference between them and the RF-52's? I like the 52's but I can't afford them now, so are the 15's good enough that I can use them for a year or 2 and wouldn't be dissapointed with them? Right now I am just using the RB-51's as my fronts and little P.O.S.'s as the rears, and an RC-52 as the center.

The RF-15 are from the previous Reference series, (replaced by the RF-52). There really shouldn't be a huge difference between the two. If you can find them at a good price, and you like the RF-52, the RF-15 should be fine.
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post #3159 of 22813
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Originally Posted by sionghchan View Post

All,

... I recently purchased the RF-52 and RC-52. These are okay, but I found that the RF-52 sounds veiled as compared to the RF-63.

I'm going to eventually be purchasing the RF-63 or the RF-83. Unfortunately, ...I really like what I hear with the RF-63 but how is that compared to the RF-83? I personally didn't like the RF-82 at all as I found that sounded very muddy and veiled. I am able to special order the RF-83 but I cannot return them as they are special orders.

The RF-83s are definitely better speakers than either the RF-52 or RF-82 but I don't know how pleased you would be with the RC-52 if that is what you are planning to use with them. Otoh, if you also are planning on ordering the RC-64 it would seem to be an expensive gamble if you can't return either.

Both the RF-83 and the RF-63 are quality speakers, but I wouldn't feel comfortable advising a person to buy the RF-83 (or RF-62s) without auditioning, especially if they couldn't return (or flip) them and without the RC-64 for Home Theater usage.
post #3160 of 22813
Anyone have any suggestions for in-ceiling speakers to take the sytem described here from 5.1 to 7.1..?

I'm thinking some of the CDT models would be the way to go....???


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Originally Posted by cuzed2 View Post

First My Thanks for the excellent posts on this thread!

I have been lurking here while building my theater. The excellent info and opinions has formed my decision to assemble the following speaker combo:

Fronts RF-35s (new)
Center RC-7 (ebay)
Surrounds RS-35s (ebay)
Subwoofer SVS tower (ebay)

My question:
I am now trying to decide on rear surrounds to take me from 5.1 to 7.1. Unfortunately my options are limited to in-ceiling. Any recommendations?
I do have a pair of Polk RC80i's (but I can also use these elsewhere in aother room for background music).

I am wondering if there are better choices out there than Polks for my situation - perhaps I should go with some Klipsch ceiling or in-wall options....?

Thanks in Advance!
post #3161 of 22813
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Originally Posted by Caanda45 View Post

The RF-15 are a close match to the RF-52`s but not timbered, so if you are looking at a timber match the 15`s are not. I got this info from one of the sound enginers at Klipsch when I asked if they were indeed a timber match or not. Just an FYI. Price of the RF-52`s in Canada at London Drugs is arround the $399 a pair these days, which I think is pretty good!!!

i recently emailed klipsch and they said all of the reference series will be voice and timbre matched
post #3162 of 22813
Quick question... if I have the IIIs are the SLs worth the upgrade for $429?
post #3163 of 22813
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Originally Posted by remodeler View Post

World of difference on the 83s and the 82s. In sound quality and price. I like the 83s myself but couldn't swing the dough.

OH YEAH!!!

The 83's are massive, and you have to pair it up with the 64 center to match'em. If you got the room and moola, then go for it.

I have the 82 system and im very happy with it.
post #3164 of 22813
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Originally Posted by trae* View Post

i recently emailed klipsch and they said all of the reference series will be voice and timbre matched

They all will have similar characteristics and a person could mix and match several of the speakers, but I can't imagine anyone from Klipsch expressing that in an e-mail without several caveats. In fact, I feel they would express the opposite because not all of the Reference line are voiced to each other, much less when comparing previous lines to the current one.
post #3165 of 22813
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

They all will have similar characteristics and a person could mix and match several of the speakers, but I can't imagine anyone from Klipsch expressing that in an e-mail without several caveats. In fact, I feel they would express the opposite because not all of the Reference line are voiced to each other, much less when comparing previous lines to the current one.


Hello Trae,

Yes anything from the Reference line will be voice and timbre matched. The speakers you have chosen should work quite well together.

Please include all previous messages in your reply.

Robert Land
Tech Support Specialist
Klipsch Group Inc.


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post #3166 of 22813
I am new to this and I have bought klipsch RF-62, RC-62 AND RS-42 for my fronts center and surround. I have onkyo 705. can I drive my speakers at 4ohms what are the pros and what are the cons? Please advice!!!!
post #3167 of 22813
I didn`t mean to open a hornets nest here. My point is that in a RF-52 family they are all perfectly timber matched, but for a perfect match, you must stay in same family. Going outside that family they are all close, but if u are looking for a perfect match they you must stay in the identical family.

Example is the RF-52`s with the RC-52,RS42 or with RB51`s for bookshelf. If you wanted a larger bookshelf the RB61`s they are not completely related to the RB-52 family, close but not a perfect match.

That is my point.

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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post
They all will have similar characteristics and a person could mix and match several of the speakers, but I can't imagine anyone from Klipsch expressing that in an e-mail without several caveats. In fact, I feel they would express the opposite because not all of the Reference line are voiced to each other, much less when comparing previous lines to the current one.

Hello Trae,

Yes anything from the Reference line will be voice and timbre matched. The speakers you have chosen should work quite well together.

Please include all previous messages in your reply.

Robert Land
Tech Support Specialist
Klipsch Group Inc.
post #3168 of 22813
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Originally Posted by trae* View Post

ok guys need some help on which center to go with

just picked me up a pair of RB51's for my fronts and was planning on going with the RB52 center . I assume its better then the c3 right and thats what i should pair the fronts with?...

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Originally Posted by trae* View Post

Hello Trae,

Yes anything from the Reference line will be voice and timbre matched. The speakers you have chosen should work quite well together.
Please include all previous messages in your reply.

Robert Land
Tech Support Specialist
Klipsch Group Inc.


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There is the caveat. ;-) If you told him you were purchasing a pair of RF-83s and would the RC-52 be a good match I feel you would have gotten a different response. Btw, I wasn't accusing you of anything but felt you got some overly general information and I still contend that not all Reference models were voice matched to each other.
{Edit: After re-reading Roberts e-mail he is more than likely referencing that all Klipsch Reference Home Theater packages are Voice and Tembre matched and you have chosen the correct front 3 speakers in that Package.}
post #3169 of 22813
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Originally Posted by Caanda45 View Post

The RF-15 are a close match to the RF-52`s but not timbered, so if you are looking at a timber match the 15`s are not. I got this info from one of the sound enginers at Klipsch when I asked if they were indeed a timber match or not.

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Originally Posted by trae* View Post

i recently emailed klipsch and they said all of the reference series will be voice and timbre matched

It seems both of you got the correct answer to your particular question but it would be incorrect to assume that ALL Klipsch Reference line speakers were voice matched to each other. It appears that what started this original line of posts concerned mix and matching current line with previous line and I am not disagreeing with what the Klipsch Rep told Caanda45.
post #3170 of 22813
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

The RF-83s are definitely better speakers than either the RF-52 or RF-82 but I don't know how pleased you would be with the RC-52 if that is what you are planning to use with them. Otoh, if you also are planning on ordering the RC-64 it would seem to be an expensive gamble if you can't return either.

Both the RF-83 and the RF-63 are quality speakers, but I wouldn't feel comfortable advising a person to buy the RF-83 (or RF-62s) without auditioning, especially if they couldn't return (or flip) them and without the RC-64 for Home Theater usage.

Uh oh... you are making it very tough for me! I know that I won't be happy with anything below RF-63 as I find the tweeter/horn setup in RF-63 and (very possibly RF-83) to be siginificantly better than the RF-52, 62, 82. RF-62 would be the only other one I would look at but I already have the RF-52 and I don't believe that RF-62 to be that much better.

So, it is RF-63 or the RF-83 for me. I will be using this primarily for stereo music. I know how the RF-63 sounds like but how much better is the RF-83?

Also, anyone knows if the RF-63 and RF-83 are made in the USA? I'm in Canada and if I were to want to purchase it from the US (where it is siginificantly cheaper), then only speakers made in the USA will be duty free due to NAFTA. So, anyone knows?

Many thanks in advance.
post #3171 of 22813
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Originally Posted by sionghchan View Post


So, it is RF-63 or the RF-83 for me. I will be using this primarily for stereo music. I know how the RF-63 sounds like but how much better is the RF-83?

Also, anyone knows if the RF-63 and RF-83 are made in the USA? I'm in Canada and if I were to want to purchase it from the US (where it is siginificantly cheaper), then only speakers made in the USA will be duty free due to NAFTA. So, anyone knows?

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Both are made in Hope, Arkansas. {Note: I am sure the RF-83s are and am almost-positive that the RF-63s are.}
post #3172 of 22813
Hi all,

I am pretty new to HT and have a couple of quick questions. I like the RF62's for my LR speakers, but will my modest reveicer, a yamaha rx563 be able to drive them? also my left speaker will be pretty close to a corner, approx 22" away from the back and 3" away from the side. the right speaker is good. will this effect the performance of speaker enough to warrent a smaller system. Room size is approx 11' x 18'. the left and right speakers will be approx 67" apart and slightly angled inwards, maybe 5deg.

Thanks
John
post #3173 of 22813
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

Both are made in Hope, Arkansas. {Note: I am sure the RF-83s are and am almost-positive that the RF-63s are.}

yeah, I do agree with you on the RF-83. However, I think I might have read somewhere that the RF-63 is possibly made in China. I believe I read somewhere that only RF-83 is made in USA. Anyone else knows for sure?

Thanks...
post #3174 of 22813
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Originally Posted by sionghchan View Post

yeah, I do agree with you on the RF-83. However, I think I might have read somewhere that the RF-63 is possibly made in China. I believe I read somewhere that only RF-83 is made in USA. Anyone else knows for sure?

Thanks...

Given they use the same tweeter as the RF-83 and are the only other Reference speakers in wood veneer (as well as the RC-64 which is also made in Hope) the only reason I am not saying that I am positive is because I don't have recollection of actually seeing them in Hope. If it makes a difference contact Klipsch directly. Good Luck.
post #3175 of 22813
RF-83,RF-63,RC-64. Fact! All made in Hope,Arkansas. I am currently reading it on my cherry RF-63 box "Made in Hope, Arkansas. Product of USA".
Bill
post #3176 of 22813
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Originally Posted by john0087 View Post

Hi all,

I am pretty new to HT and have a couple of quick questions. I like the RF62's for my LR speakers, but will my modest reveicer, a yamaha rx563 be able to drive them? also my left speaker will be pretty close to a corner, approx 22" away from the back and 3" away from the side. the right speaker is good. will this effect the performance of speaker enough to warrent a smaller system. Room size is approx 11' x 18'. the left and right speakers will be approx 67" apart and slightly angled inwards, maybe 5deg.

Thanks
John

I drive my RF-82 system with a Yammy HTR 5660. You should have no problems.
post #3177 of 22813
The upper Reference IV line, (RF-83, RF-63, RC-64), are made in Hope. The RF-82 on down are made in China to Klipsch specs.
post #3178 of 22813
At work yesterday, I took an HK AVR-247 & some Synergy B3s in the back & listened for about an hour. Was pretty decent & had plenty of output, so I figured the Reference Series would be a good bit better. Bit the bullet & ordered two RB-62s, an RC-52 two RS-42s, a RW10d, along with an AVR-354 from Harman.
post #3179 of 22813
Quote:
Originally Posted by john0087 View Post

Hi all,

I am pretty new to HT and have a couple of quick questions. I like the RF62's for my LR speakers, but will my modest reveicer, a yamaha rx563 be able to drive them? also my left speaker will be pretty close to a corner, approx 22" away from the back and 3" away from the side. the right speaker is good. will this effect the performance of speaker enough to warrent a smaller system. Room size is approx 11' x 18'. the left and right speakers will be approx 67" apart and slightly angled inwards, maybe 5deg.

Thanks
John

Hello "john0087"!

My room is approximately the same size (18 x 11.6 x 8) as your's.
And, like you plan to do, I have my RF35 Towers (predecessor to the RF62 and made in Hope, Arkansas!) pointed inward.
The Fronts sit exactly 9 feet apart, measuring from the center of both left and right speaker cones. The imaging is pretty good. But the sweet spot is dead center! The soundstage is wide and they are extremely accurate.
If you click onto the link below my signature, it will open my AVS gallery and you will be able to see how I have my speakers arranged.
As far as the performance is concerned, it's going to depend on your room's response to the speaker output. You could experience some reflection due to how close the speakers are to the outboard walls. Luckily, my carpet and chairs, along with pointing the speakers inward has lessened the reflectivity in my room, but it's not perfect. There's always room for improvement. Strategically positioned acoustic panels can be very effective.

Congrats on the new purchase!
Regards.
post #3180 of 22813
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Originally Posted by Willland View Post

RF-83,RF-63,RC-64. Fact! All made in Hope,Arkansas. I am currently reading it on my cherry RF-63 box "Made in Hope, Arkansas. Product of USA".
Bill

Woohoo! RF-63/83 here I come!

I.e. these speakers will have no duties coming across the border to Canada. US dealers seem to selling these speakers for significantly less as compared to Canadian dealers.

Thanks again for all you fellow forum members..

- yet another newbie sold on Klipsch sound -
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