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post #3511 of 22807
7/10/08 at 8:34am
@ensmarcum, does the grill come off? If so, can you snap a pic without the grills? Now I'm curious.
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post #3512 of 22807
7/10/08 at 8:37am
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Originally Posted by Mycroft1888 View Post

@ensmarcum, does the grill come off? If so, can you snap a pic without the grills? Now I'm curious.

http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/kl-650-thx.aspx
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post #3513 of 22807
7/10/08 at 10:20am
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Nice setup you got there expresso. Ill post pics of mine later when I find time to.

Bye-the-way, does the cat sit on top of the AVR after a movie to keep her warm and toasty. I would hate to see that cat use it as a scratching post....OUCH!!!


thanks - i like to see your pics and others too - when i first got the 7002 - everything is new so little by little i started to add things and of course my Cat had to go inspect everything - i didnt think anything till one evening i couldnt find her and noticed that she was hanging out on the 7002 !! - i am sure she liked the warmth - so for a while i had to cover it after i used it - just in case she went there at night - she did for a while - but i kept checking and using a can of air duster - compressed air - and she got the idea not to go there anymore - since then i got a thin fabric of cotton - custom made to fit the top of the 7002 - with a picture of musical instruments etc. and i put that on top when its not in use - just in case -- so it looks nice - the towel i used at first was temp. till i figured something out - i found this site on line that has alot of fabrics - pictures etc. - and very cheap to buy - -
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post #3514 of 22807
7/10/08 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by Mycroft1888 View Post

srckkmack, I think you'll only find a relevant answer to your question by finding a local Klipsch dealer, going in and giving a listen for yourself.

Personally, I trialed the RF-82's at the local Magnolia store and compared to the speakers the sales guy was pushing at me, the Klipsch made Norah Jones sound like she was in the room with me!

Thanks for the reply. I went to American TV which is close and listened to the RF-63. It sounded good, but I would prefer to take them home and compare them in my room. They said I could purchase and return within 30 days... good deal.

They didn't have the RF-83. There was only a demo pair left in one of their stores about 90 miles away.

Does anyone have experience A/B'ing the CF-x series to the latest RF-xx series care to comment?

Also, is the RF-63 recommended to be spaced from the wall as far as the RF-83?
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post #3515 of 22807
7/10/08 at 11:12am
Quick question -- does anybody know of an easy way to buy just a pair of Klipsch Quintet satellite speakers? I'm setting up a little 5.1 system, and I have some nice, older Klipsch bookshelves for the fronts... but nothing yet for surrounds. I'm looking to get something as compact and budget-friendly as possible, but I want to stick with Klipsch.
I've been checking eBay periodically, to see if a suitable pair comes up at a suitable price. Just wondering if there are other options.
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post #3516 of 22807
7/10/08 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by fozzybear98 View Post

Hello All... I'm a newbie here. I've been lurking around and reading some threads here and there trying to find information.

My husband and I have decided to make some upgrades to our home theater by purchasing a Pioneer plasma PDP-5020FD. We also decided that we needed a real surround system (we currently have a "boxed" set of Sony speakers that were a whole $300 for the set of 6 speakers, a receiver and a DVD player and haven't been used in a while because they were so bad).

We've pretty much decided on getting some Klipsch speakers after a demo at Ultimate Electronics. They were awesome! The speakers that we are looking at are the following:

Back: 2 RSX-4
Front: 2 RSX-5
Center: RCX-4
Woofer: RW-10d

These are not the "Super Greats," but they are still an investment. Especially when purchasing the Plasma TV and a receiver all at the same time.

What I'm wondering is what you all would recommend for an A/V Receiver that would work with the TV and the speakers. We've looked into the Pioneer VSX-1018AH-K, the Pioneer Elite VSX-91TXH (the speakers were demo'd using this one), or could get a demo model of the Pioneer Elite VSX-94TXH for the same price as the 91. We really don't NEED all the functions that the Elite models have, but not sure if there is a difference performance wise.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

P.S. Not sure if I'm adding this to the right place or not. Let me know. Thx

"fozzybear98"!

You're in the right place for you inquiry. I'm impressed that you are doing the research for the "Guy-thing" endeavor! You're obviously a "KEEPER"!
anyway, back to the products in question.... The speaker package that has been configured for you is a combination of the "Cinema 10 (RSX 5) and Cinema 8 (RSX 4) Satellite pkg.

http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/cinema-10.aspx

As you stated, a very nice sounding speaker combo. Remember this, the RSX 5 and the RCX 4 can handle 75 watts contiuously, while the RSX 4's cn only handle 50 watts. Why do I mention that, well when it comes to powering those speakers, you must be careful not to over do it! Pioneer "Elite" AV Receivers are built to higher tolerances than the non-"Elite" AVR's. So in my humble opinion, the 94, a very powerful AVR, would be overkill. The 91 at 100 watts x 7 is a nice AVR also and may be a better choice for the speakers.
The alternative would be offerings from Yamaha and Onkyo. The Yamaha RX-V663 is nice easily affordable AVR with all the functions you will ever need. The Onkyo 606 is also a nice unit. Check those out and compare to the Pioneer Elite models. Determine what gives you the better value.

Regards.
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post #3517 of 22807
7/10/08 at 6:06pm
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Originally Posted by fozzybear98 View Post

Hello All... I'm a newbie here. I've been lurking around and reading some threads here and there trying to find information.

My husband and I have decided to make some upgrades to our home theater by purchasing a Pioneer plasma PDP-5020FD. We also decided that we needed a real surround system (we currently have a "boxed" set of Sony speakers that were a whole $300 for the set of 6 speakers, a receiver and a DVD player and haven't been used in a while because they were so bad).

We've pretty much decided on getting some Klipsch speakers after a demo at Ultimate Electronics. They were awesome! The speakers that we are looking at are the following:

Back: 2 RSX-4
Front: 2 RSX-5
Center: RCX-4
Woofer: RW-10d

These are not the "Super Greats," but they are still an investment. Especially when purchasing the Plasma TV and a receiver all at the same time.

What I'm wondering is what you all would recommend for an A/V Receiver that would work with the TV and the speakers. We've looked into the Pioneer VSX-1018AH-K, the Pioneer Elite VSX-91TXH (the speakers were demo'd using this one), or could get a demo model of the Pioneer Elite VSX-94TXH for the same price as the 91. We really don't NEED all the functions that the Elite models have, but not sure if there is a difference performance wise.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

P.S. Not sure if I'm adding this to the right place or not. Let me know. Thx


That is a nice system. A few suggestions having sold a LOT of the RSX systems to folks...

First, Go with RSX-5's in the back.

Second...if you have the space and/or plan to wall mount the center,
go with three RSX-5's up front (i.e. do ALL RSX-5's). You get the most perfect balance with that setup and the best dynamics.

Third...go with a RSW-12D sub instead. It is a bit more but absolutely worth the difference over the smaller sub.
The speakers ARE good enough to tell the difference between the receivers. I've also sold a lot of them with the Marantz receivers with success, it is a good match.
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post #3518 of 22807
7/10/08 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by Soundood View Post

That is a nice system. A few suggestions having sold a LOT of the RSX systems to folks...

First, Go with RSX-5's in the back.

Second...if you have the space and/or plan to wall mount the center,
go with three RSX-5's up front (i.e. do ALL RSX-5's). You get the most perfect balance with that setup and the best dynamics.

Third...go with a RSW-12D sub instead. It is a bit more but absolutely worth the difference over the smaller sub.
The speakers ARE good enough to tell the difference between the receivers. I've also sold a lot of them with the Marantz receivers with success, it is a good match.

I'm a Marantz man from way back. So I surely agree with you on that one. But, Marantz products can be difficult to find. and your suggestion regarding the speaker pkg combo, I agree with you on that also! but it will depend on room size.

Regards.
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post #3519 of 22807
7/11/08 at 6:58am
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/kl-650-thx.aspx

Thanks for the link Zen. Color me an old fashioned fuddy duddy, but while they may sound great, I'm not crazy about the look.
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post #3520 of 22807
7/11/08 at 11:04am
I recently re-designed the layout of my home theater and upgraded the receiver from a 3 year old $300 Panasonic to the Onkyo TX-SR875. The new Onkyo did wonders for my picture with the Reon VP chip, but didn’t improve the audio like I was hoping. Don’t get me wrong, there is a definite difference, but it lacks the wow factor I was looking for (I also tried out a Denon 3808CI and had the same effect). I’m now thinking that my issue may lie with the speakers. I’m using entry level Klipsch Reference speakers (RF-10 fronts, RC-10 center, RS-10 side sur, RB-10 rear sur, SW-10 sub) and have a fairly large/open room. Exact dimensions are difficult to provide given the layout of the room, but suffice to say it's about 17x23x7, with the rear surrounds about 17 feet back from the front wall (one is ceiling mounted). I attached a very crude drawing of the layout so you can see what I'm talking about. The black boxes are the speakers and the large red box in the corner is a fireplace I don't use. I tried upgrading my center channel to the RC-52 and adding an additional set of side surrounds (Polk bookshelves) in between the existing sides and the 2 rears, and I was still lacking the "full" sound that I am looking for. The room is carpeted with a drop down foam tile ceiling and is untreated. Since I plan on moving within the next two years I do not plan on investing any money on room treatments at this time. So my question is, is there a speaker upgrade I can do to this setup that will give me a noticeable difference in a "full enveloping" sound? Or am I too restricted by the room?
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post #3521 of 22807
7/11/08 at 4:13pm
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Originally Posted by viperdk View Post

I recently re-designed the layout of my home theater and upgraded the receiver from a 3 year old $300 Panasonic to the Onkyo TX-SR875. The new Onkyo did wonders for my picture with the Reon VP chip, but didn’t improve the audio like I was hoping. Don’t get me wrong, there is a definite difference, but it lacks the wow factor I was looking for (I also tried out a Denon 3808CI and had the same effect). I’m now thinking that my issue may lie with the speakers. I’m using entry level Klipsch Reference speakers (RF-10 fronts, RC-10 center, RS-10 side sur, RB-10 rear sur, SW-10 sub) and have a fairly large/open room. Exact dimensions are difficult to provide given the layout of the room, but suffice to say it's about 17x23x7, with the rear surrounds about 17 feet back from the front wall (one is ceiling mounted). I attached a very crude drawing of the layout so you can see what I'm talking about. The black boxes are the speakers and the large red box in the corner is a fireplace I don't use. I tried upgrading my center channel to the RC-52 and adding an additional set of side surrounds (Polk bookshelves) in between the existing sides and the 2 rears, and I was still lacking the "full" sound that I am looking for. The room is carpeted with a drop down foam tile ceiling and is untreated. Since I plan on moving within the next two years I do not plan on investing any money on room treatments at this time. So my question is, is there a speaker upgrade I can do to this setup that will give me a noticeable difference in a "full enveloping" sound? Or am I too restricted by the room?

Hello "viperdk"!

As soon as I read "RF10", I knew you were in trouble! Your room is entirely to large for that speaker package. You're wondering why the Onkyo 875 or the Denon 3808 gave you only a slight improvement. It's because, those speakers can only output so much. If I'm not mistaken and "Zen", you can chime in at any time.... the RF10 frequency range is only
59 Hz-20 kHz +/- 3 dB. Not a broad range at all. So there is no way for you to hear a dramatic improvement in sound. Not to mention the RW10 subwoofer. Your speaker system lacks the "testicular fortitude" needed to fill a room of that size. In a small room with a decent sub, the RF10's aren't bad, but when you have a room that's 17x23x7,
nothing less than the RF62's! I don't even think the 52's are adequate.
So the moral of the story, a speaker upgrade is in order!

Regards.
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post #3522 of 22807
7/11/08 at 9:18pm
Gentlemen: I have been reading on this thread for a while looking for an answer to my question but haven't found it yet. So I have decided to post. Has anyone tried one of the Reference 4 center channels with a set of the previous generation mains? I know the consensus is that it should not be done because they aren't timbre matched, but has anyone actually tried this? Is it even noticeable? I know it should be on paper, bu tis it in reality? I have a set of RF35s as my mains and I am considering an RC 62 or 64 to replace my RC 35, which has had issues with lower bass since I bought it. I would like to get an RC 7 but they seem impossible to find. Any input would be appreciated.
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post #3523 of 22807
7/12/08 at 6:17am
Crossroads,

I have not heard/seen anyone's experience with either of those centers with the RF-35s. I am reluctant to tell you that I live in the DFW area and have an extra RC-7. Because of my fondness for it, as well as the RC-62 could be had new for a couple hundred less, it may not be the best bang for your buck in your situation.

I would call one of the Klipsch dealers in our area--tell them you are looking for the RC-62 and ask what would they sell it to you for (and would you have the ability to return it for a full refund it doesn't meet your expectations*). You really don't need an audition with other speakers as much as you need to hear how it blends with your other speakers. If the seller doesn't come down much from MSRP express that you contacted him, and basically just want to pick up the speaker and want to get the best deal possible...

*I wouldn't ask him this until after you solidified the price.

That is the strategy I would use.
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post #3524 of 22807
7/12/08 at 6:37am
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Originally Posted by CrossRoad View Post

Gentlemen: I have been reading on this thread for a while looking for an answer to my question but haven't found it yet. So I have decided to post. Has anyone tried one of the Reference 4 center channels with a set of the previous generation mains? I know the consensus is that it should not be done because they aren't timbre matched, but has anyone actually tried this? Is it even noticeable? I know it should be on paper, bu tis it in reality? I have a set of RF35s as my mains and I am considering an RC 62 or 64 to replace my RC 35, which has had issues with lower bass since I bought it. I would like to get an RC 7 but they seem impossible to find. Any input would be appreciated.

Replacing the RC35 with the RC62 or 64 will be fine!
Although the 64 has a 1.25" tweeter as oppose to the 1" tweeter in the RF35, if there is a timbre match difference, you will most like not be able to detect it. Especially when watching movies. Their will be a marked improvement over the RC35 with either center channel. At one time, I didn't think the 62 offered that much of an improvement over the 35, but boy was I wrong. Surely more dynamic and better low-end response. The tweeter is improved also. Voices will not sound as muffled compared to the 35.

Regards.
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post #3525 of 22807
7/12/08 at 7:09am
Thanks for the replies guys. So Zen: Regarding that extra RC 7...Are you in the mood to sell it?
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post #3526 of 22807
7/12/08 at 7:22am
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Originally Posted by CrossRoad View Post

Gentlemen: I have been reading on this thread for a while looking for an answer to my question but haven't found it yet. So I have decided to post. Has anyone tried one of the Reference 4 center channels with a set of the previous generation mains? I know the consensus is that it should not be done because they aren't timbre matched, but has anyone actually tried this? Is it even noticeable? I know it should be on paper, bu tis it in reality? I have a set of RF35s as my mains and I am considering an RC 62 or 64 to replace my RC 35, which has had issues with lower bass since I bought it. I would like to get an RC 7 but they seem impossible to find. Any input would be appreciated.

There are differences between the RC-35 and the RC-62, but they are very subtle in nature. The RC-62 should work just fine with your mains. The RC-7 or RC-64 could work, but they are configured to match the top of the line speakers with different driver configuration and different crossovers, and they would likely require a little more work to integrate with your mains. Otherwise, you will likely notice a difference with highly dynamic material and changing front image content. And they are huge... you will have to account for the space they require.
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post #3527 of 22807
7/12/08 at 7:49am
Zen I didn't realize you were in Tx. what part? I just moved out of arlington.
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post #3528 of 22807
7/12/08 at 8:36am
Thanks Wolfsbane. I have already determined that I will have to build a custom shelf for the RC 7 or remove my PS3 from my TV stand for the RC 64, provided the stand will support the additional weight. Otherwise I will have to build a shelf for the RC 64 too. If the RC 62 would blend well with my mains and was of substantial quality, then it would be an ideal replacement becasue it would simply slide right in where my RC 35 is. It would be nice to upgrade in quality from the Rc 35 though.
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post #3529 of 22807
7/12/08 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by ldgibson76 View Post

Hello "viperdk"!

As soon as I read "RF10", I knew you were in trouble! Your room is entirely to large for that speaker package. You're wondering why the Onkyo 875 or the Denon 3808 gave you only a slight improvement. It's because, those speakers can only output so much. If I'm not mistaken and "Zen", you can chime in at any time.... the RF10 frequency range is only
59 Hz-20 kHz +/- 3 dB. Not a broad range at all. So there is no way for you to hear a dramatic improvement in sound. Not to mention the RW10 subwoofer. Your speaker system lacks the "testicular fortitude" needed to fill a room of that size. In a small room with a decent sub, the RF10's aren't bad, but when you have a room that's 17x23x7,
nothing less than the RF62's! I don't even think the 52's are adequate.
So the moral of the story, a speaker upgrade is in order!

Regards.

Thanks ldgibson76 for your response. After reading on this forum that Best Buy is no longer going to carry the reference series Klipsch, I went into my local store hoping to find a deal. Sure enough, all they had left was the display models of the RF-82. They were already discounted for the closeout and I got open box on top of that so they were dirt cheap. In fact, I only had to spend $100 more than I spent on the RF-10 pair back in 2005! So now I have 2 RF-82s, RC-52, 2 RS-10s, 2 RB-10s and a SW-10. And just for shits and giggles I still have the 2 Polk R-10's in there as a second set of side surrounds. Quite the mix. The RF-82's definitely have a much more loud/full sound. However, I was surprised at the lack of bass, which was especially evident when listening to a CD at 2 channel stereo output at 48kHz PCM. I re-ran Audyssey and adjusted the tone to crank the bass. Hmm... Maybe I have more settings to play with. Here are some pictures of my setup with the new RF-82s. Anyone have a suggestion of how I can better arrange to get a more optimal sound?
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post #3530 of 22807
7/12/08 at 12:02pm
Do any of you guys have expirence with the klipsch hersey 3's? I am serriously considering purching these.
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post #3531 of 22807
7/12/08 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by viperdk View Post

Thanks ldgibson76 for your response. After reading on this forum that Best Buy is no longer going to carry the reference series Klipsch, I went into my local store hoping to find a deal. Sure enough, all they had left was the display models of the RF-82. They were already discounted for the closeout and I got open box on top of that so they were dirt cheap. In fact, I only had to spend $100 more than I spent on the RF-10 pair back in 2005! So now I have 2 RF-82s, RC-52, 2 RS-10s, 2 RB-10s and a SW-10. And just for shits and giggles I still have the 2 Polk R-10's in there as a second set of side surrounds. Quite the mix. The RF-82's definitely have a much more loud/full sound. However, I was surprised at the lack of bass, which was especially evident when listening to a CD at 2 channel stereo output at 48kHz PCM. I re-ran Audyssey and adjusted the tone to crank the bass. Hmm... Maybe I have more settings to play with. Here are some pictures of my setup with the new RF-82s. Anyone have a suggestion of how I can better arrange to get a more optimal sound?

Lack of bass would surprise me too... My RF-62's have LOTS of bass. I couldn't believe the amount of bass those 4 - 6.5" drivers put out. Actually, I think they put out more bass than the RPW-10 I used to have.

I am also driving the speakers with separate amps, however, I've never run them off the receiver. Maybe I'll give that a shot to see if the sound changes at all.

I think room placement my be part of the difference. I had my speakers about 1.5 - 2 ft away from the rear wall.
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post #3532 of 22807
7/12/08 at 12:25pm
Hey when did, or when does, Best Buy stop selling the Reference line? I had not heard about this!
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post #3533 of 22807
7/12/08 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by CrossRoad View Post

Hey when did, or when does, Best Buy stop selling the Reference line? I had not heard about this!

They will only be carrying the icon lines. That includes the X and W series i believe
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post #3534 of 22807
7/12/08 at 1:04pm
I just called to my local Magnolia. Its true. Very disappointed. I was going to talk to them and see if I could score a center for cheap from my contact there. But they can't even get anything bigger than the RC 52. Ridiculous they never stocked at least the 62.
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post #3535 of 22807
7/12/08 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by CrossRoad View Post

... But they can't even get anything bigger than the RC 52. Ridiculous they never stocked at least the 62.

I completely agree and mentioned that every time I was in one of their stores and actually had anyone speak to me...It was almost like they weren't interested in selling Klipsch (or any other) Home Theater packages.
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post #3536 of 22807
7/12/08 at 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by viperdk View Post

.... Anyone have a suggestion of how I can better arrange to get a more optimal sound?


That looks like a real fun room. ;-)

Have you tried moving the Subwoofer in the other corner a few inches from the walls and spacing your RF-82s wider, moving their fronts slightly ahead of your TV and toeing them in towards your Listening Position? That would be the first things I would try.

I didn't realize that the Onkyo let you use two sets of side surrounds. My Denon does and it is a really cool feature. If you still have your RF-10s try them as side surrounds and see what you think. ;-)

Fwiw, the Denon AVR 3808ci should have sounded great with that setup and spec-wise your Onkyo AVR 875 should have enough power to drive that system to a decent level. After running Audyssey did you go back and set the crossover levels from your "Full Range" Speakers to 80 Hz or so?
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post #3537 of 22807
7/12/08 at 4:11pm
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

That looks like a real fun room. ;-)

Have you tried moving the Subwoofer in the other corner a few inches from the walls and spacing your RF-82s wider, moving their fronts slightly ahead of your TV and toeing them in towards your Listening Position? That would be the first things I would try.

I didn't realize that the Onkyo let you use two sets of side surrounds. My Denon does and it is a really cool feature. If you still have your RF-10s try them as side surrounds and see what you think. ;-)

Fwiw, the Denon AVR 3808ci should have sounded great with that setup and spec-wise your Onkyo AVR 875 should have enough power to drive that system to a decent level. After running Audyssey did you go back and set the crossover levels from your "Full Range" Speakers to 80 Hz or so?

"Zen",

He could have Audyssey'd 'till the cows came home!!! But the RF10's do not have the capability to go below 59Hz. Then you have the RPW10 sub. Unfortunately, that is the weakest sub Klipsch offers and I believe regardless of the best calibration the 3808 has to offer, it wouldn't have helped in that size room. Not to be confused with the ability to push the speakers. The 875 and 3808 no doubt have the power to push the RF10 pkg.
But to hear the true capability of these AVR's, the speaker system must be up to the task.

Regards.
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post #3538 of 22807
7/12/08 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by ldgibson76 View Post

"Zen",

He could have Audyssey'd 'till the cows came home!!! But the RF10's do not have the capability to go below 59Hz....

I was responding to his post about the new RF-82 layout that he has in his pictures in post #3530...
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post #3539 of 22807
7/12/08 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by viperdk View Post

Thanks ldgibson76 for your response. After reading on this forum that Best Buy is no longer going to carry the reference series Klipsch, I went into my local store hoping to find a deal. Sure enough, all they had left was the display models of the RF-82. They were already discounted for the closeout and I got open box on top of that so they were dirt cheap. In fact, I only had to spend $100 more than I spent on the RF-10 pair back in 2005! So now I have 2 RF-82s, RC-52, 2 RS-10s, 2 RB-10s and a SW-10. And just for shits and giggles I still have the 2 Polk R-10's in there as a second set of side surrounds. Quite the mix. The RF-82's definitely have a much more loud/full sound. However, I was surprised at the lack of bass, which was especially evident when listening to a CD at 2 channel stereo output at 48kHz PCM. I re-ran Audyssey and adjusted the tone to crank the bass. Hmm... Maybe I have more settings to play with. Here are some pictures of my setup with the new RF-82s. Anyone have a suggestion of how I can better arrange to get a more optimal sound?

you have to play around some where - because i have the 82s and there is no lack of bass at all -- i was worried that they would lack but i was wrong - they have alot of bass to give - the pictures look nice - but something must be off in the setup somewhere - i have plenty of bass - in 2 channel direct mode - i never use a sub - and not even sure if the sub does anything in HT either now -

mines are close the wall though - abouit 6 inches away angled - but from your pictures - it seems like yours are not far from the wall either so you should have plenty of bass - - just curious - how much did you get them for from BB ?
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post #3540 of 22807
7/12/08 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by CrossRoad View Post

Gentlemen: I have been reading on this thread for a while looking for an answer to my question but haven't found it yet. So I have decided to post. Has anyone tried one of the Reference 4 center channels with a set of the previous generation mains? I know the consensus is that it should not be done because they aren't timbre matched, but has anyone actually tried this? Is it even noticeable? I know it should be on paper, bu tis it in reality? I have a set of RF35s as my mains and I am considering an RC 62 or 64 to replace my RC 35, which has had issues with lower bass since I bought it. I would like to get an RC 7 but they seem impossible to find. Any input would be appreciated.

I have used the RC-7 with RF-35's. It was such an improvement over the RC-35that I never noticed if it was a perfect natch. Can't comment on the RC 62 or 64, however I think you will be very satisied with the RC-7.
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