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post #3781 of 22396
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Originally Posted by ztkp01 View Post

What this something that was noticed upon the initial purchase. If not, how long?



It took a couple of weeks to find the source of the sound. I'm not sure if it was there all along since only certain frequences would create the problem, but I suspect it was.
post #3782 of 22396
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Originally Posted by WolfsBane View Post

Soundood

Have you had an opportunity yet to audition the Palladiums? Impressions if you have?

VERY briefly. Not enough time to gather a serious impression. Palladiums are barely shipping...only P-39F's and mostly to Europe while they develop the U.S. distribution and figure out production capabilities to supply demand. I can tell you they look much better in person than in the pictures.
post #3783 of 22396
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Originally Posted by expresso712 View Post

does anyone use a pro audio amp with there Klipsch for home audio and HT ?

if so - what kind do you use - how does it sound etc.

Face Audio. Excellent match.
post #3784 of 22396
Hey quick question everyone....I'm looking to upgrade our current surround sound system with the RF83 package. Our current setup consists of in ceiling speakers as the surrounds. What I want to do is step up to 7.1 and replace those speakers with something that will match the RF83 system. I was looking at either the CDT-5800-C or the KS-7502-THX. The speakers will be hooked up to an Onkyo 905 receiver.
post #3785 of 22396
Just wanted to pop in here and say that I went from this configuration:

Klipsch RF-82s, RC-62, RS-52s, RB-61s, HSU 3.3, 7.1

TO

Klipch RF-82s, RC-64, RF-82s, HSU 3.3, 5.1

I must say that the RF-82s as surround speakers are absolutely killer and the RC-64 is WAY better than the RC-62.

Very happy with the switch.
post #3786 of 22396
Posted this before the crash, but didn't see if anyone replied.

Is the Reference line considered higher end than the Icon line?
post #3787 of 22396
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Originally Posted by MordredKLB View Post

Posted this before the crash, but didn't see if anyone replied.

Is the Reference line considered higher end than the Icon line?

No, just more mature and different construction. It creates a different sound than the Icon line. Folks who've complained about Klipsch's being "bright" or harsh seem to like the Icon sound better.
post #3788 of 22396
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Originally Posted by MordredKLB View Post

Posted this before the crash, but didn't see if anyone replied.

Is the Reference line considered higher end than the Icon line?

Ref has higher specs. I think it was intended that Reference be a better sounding speaker while Icon a better looking smaller speaker.

Apple to Oranges kind of.
post #3789 of 22396
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Originally Posted by sethhobrin View Post

Ref has higher specs. I think it was intended that Reference be a better sounding speaker while Icon a better looking smaller speaker.

Apple to Oranges kind of.

Okay, that was kind of the impression I got. The Icons look great, but they seem to be a lot smaller.
post #3790 of 22396
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Originally Posted by MordredKLB View Post

Okay, that was kind of the impression I got. The Icons look great, but they seem to be a lot smaller.

i believe the Ref. line to be the higher end of the two models - i do like the the new W line and the look is decor friendly - but in the end - the Ref. lines are still the higher end - at least this is what i believe - i may be wrong -

also - about being Bright sounding - the RF82 are not bright in anyway - i used two different amps and both are not bright -
post #3791 of 22396
I haven't been to this forum in quite some time, but...

I have verified that I was the first US customer to take delivery of the Palladium P-39F, which was on July 26th.

At this point I've had a little over a dozen people over to listen, everyone has been very positive so far. I'm working on my own formal review as well as aggregating all the meaningful comments that people have shared with me. I'll try to hang around here more often.

Pictures and descriptions of my system (be warned: I'm a terrible photographer) are here:

http://www.klipschcorner.com/SystemP...play.aspx?Id=1

I also wrote two zoom browser applications that have pictures and text that tell the story of unboxing these speakers. The links for these (one for the center channel and one for the floorstanding speakers) are on my blog here:

http://www.klipschcorner.com/BlogDet...0-9486ac315519
post #3792 of 22396
WOW!!! Can I come over??
post #3793 of 22396
If I remember correctly, Soundood posted a while back that the Ref line was superior to the Icons.

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Originally Posted by MordredKLB View Post

Posted this before the crash, but didn't see if anyone replied.

Is the Reference line considered higher end than the Icon line?
post #3794 of 22396
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Originally Posted by Latin-Man View Post

WOW!!! Can I come over??

I'm in Wisconsin, where are you?
post #3795 of 22396
This audition was actually performed on Saturday evening (August 9, 2008)
I originally posted it yesterday, but due to the CRASH!, it was deleted.
As I said in the original post, this is in no way shape or form a professional review, just purely subjective and of my own opinion.
Some may find my description of the speakers performance, unsophisticated, and for that, I apologize. Hopefully, it will give you some insight about the WF-35's sound compared to the Reference and some other makes and models.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

Regards.

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Hello Everyone.

Last night, I had a chance to truly audition the Klipsch ICON WF-35 towers. Just to give you an idea of the room they are set up in, the room's dimensions is approximately 25 x 18 x 9. The ceiling is a drop ceiling type with I would assume acoustically treated panels. The walls are mostly covered with wood with some areas revealing drywall. In Magnolia style, the AVRs are on the left wall on shelves and the Def Techs and WF-34/35's are positioned on the right wall. Along with the speakers, is a tv stand with a 46 LCD on top. A WC-24 is on the lower shelf of the stand. Flanking the tv, the speakers sets were in this order outside in: Def Tech 7002, 7004, 7006, Klipsch WF-35, WF-34. At the front of the room sits a pair of Klipsch ICON XF-48's and a pair of Vienna Acoustics Grand Bachs and a pair of Grand Mozarts. They flanked a tv stand with a 50" flat panel. In the rear of the room, sat a pair of Martin Logan's flanking another tv stand and flat panel. In the center of the room was a circular shaped ottoman so you can basically face in any direction and listen to any speaker set from 8-9 ft away.

Now for the WF-35's! That's what we're here for isn't it?! The WF-35's on display was in the "Expresso". The WF-34's are in the "Cabernet". Both look very nice. Klipsch really did a nice job on the fit and finish of these speakers. The wood veneer is of decent quality. Much better than the lower model References 10's, 52's, 62's and yes, the 82's!, and smoother than the grainy finish of the 63's and 83's. The WF-35's sat about 9 ft apart measured from the center of the 2 driver, tilted in maybe 10 degrees. And I sat approximately 9 ft away, dead center, similar to the positioning of my speakers at home. The sources used, was a Denon AVR3808 and a Denon DVD1730 DVD player. This was strictly a 2 channel audition. No sub, no surround, no center, just straight pure direct. The WF-35's were on their own! The dvd player was connected with both analog and digital cables. How do I know this?! I checked! During the audition, I switched back and forth to see if I could notice a difference. I couldn't!

The music I used was from 2 home made cd's with various artists. The CD's were recorded from my Cambridge Audio 640C to my Philips CDR950. Direct source of course! I started with some music from the contemporary jazz compilation CD-R. The first track is by Boney James from his Shine CD, his rendition of "Waters on March". Okay, these speakers are different from the References. At a volume level of -15, the WF-35's really surprised me with the midrange definition and low end response. The bass was balanced and even, not overbearing, bordering on smooth. The highs do not fall far from the tree. It's truly a Klipsch tweeter! Dynamic? No doubt. But, not to the point where it interfered with the midrange. Again, very balanced. Imaging was very good. That was truly revealed on the following track by Norman Brown and his rendition of Janet Jackson's "That's the Way Love Goes". The WF-35's made it seem as if Norman was sitting front and center picking away at his guitar! Even the Magnolia rep was amazed by the clarity. (A side note: the Mag Rep didn't seem too familiar with the Imaging concept!). He's a Def Tech fan from way back! I listened intently to 10 tracks and I've gotta tell you, Klipsch has a winner here! Understand, they are not as lively as the RF62's or 82's, but they are not supposed to be. Definitely more laid back, but more dynamic than any of the Def Techs on display. The next CD was a compilation of easy listening vocals. The first track was by Bobby Caldwell, "What You Won't Do, Do For Love". This particular track is HDCD encoded and the Denon AVR3808 recognized it immediately. Bobby Caldwell's voice was very clear and realistic and front and center. Again, the WF-35's ability to properly place his voice front and center was impressive. The sound stage was expansive and you could locate the positions of the instruments. The next track I listened to was from Natalie Cole's newest CD, Leavin, a remake of The Isley Brothers, Don't Say Goodnight. A very nice ballad and Ms. Cole does a beautiful job on the song. The WF-35's again reveals why it's a different speaker from the Reference series. Uncanny clarity comes to mind when trying to describe the performance. On this particular track, Ms. Cole uses an orchestra and you could literally decipher the location of the horns, percussions, strings and the background vocals. Did I say dynamic and revealing?! But not in your face like the Reference series tends to be, depending on what you're listening to!
Now I have to say that for all intents and purposes, the WF-35 does have its limitations just as any other speaker. The lows aren't bad. As a matter of fact, when we started the Boney James track, I thought one of the subwoofers in the room was active. The low end performance was that good. But compared to say, the Vienna Acoustic Mozart Grands, the Mozarts went deeper! But we are also talking a $1300 difference in price! Regardless, the WF-35's are nice speakers. I listened to 5 more tracks including Sting's We Shall Dance off the Fields of Gold CD. Here is where the WF's, in my opinion have the edge over the Reference 62 and 82. We all know that Sting's voice can at times reach terradactyl-like octaves! My RF-35's can be a little flamboyant at times, to put it mildly, especially when Sting is at full terradactyl! The WF-35's on the other hand, at that same passage during the song, where much smoother. That surprised me!

Now I must say that I did compare the sound of the WF-35's to the other speakers on display. Switching from the Klipsch's to the Def Tech 7004's, revealed that the WF-35's are more dynamic. Now some would describe that as Brighter. Some would say that the 7004's cleaned up the highs some. Others would probably say that the 7004's sound kind of dull. Without question, the 7004's low-end performance was a more pronounced, as it should be! With an integrated sub and amp, I would expect the low end to be deeper. Compared to the VA Mozarts, the WF-35's where downright boisterous in the high range. The Martin Logan Source 8's where very laid back but I discovered that those particular models are the most directional speakers I've ever experienced. When sitting and the grilles are at ear level, they are very accurate and balanced. When you stand up and your ears are above the grill, it's as if you've step outside of the room or put in ear plugs! When you sit back down and you're front and center, it seems as if you took the plugs out of your ears, or you walked back into the room! It was crazy. Even the Magnolia Rep was surprised by that difference!

Anyway, in conclusion, I like the Klipsch WF-35 Tower speaker. It will appeal to a broader customer base and if Best Buy/Magnolia does it right, the ICON series will be their best selling speaker. I'm by no means saying that it's the best speaker they offer. Not at all! But, I witnessed 4 different customers comment on the WF-35's sound compared to the Def Techs , VA's and ML's and I can tell you, each one of them were very impressed with the Klipsch! Descriptions were, cleaner, crisper, dynamic, more revealing, and transparent! Did you notice that I left out accurate?! That's truly up for debate and will no doubt be the topic of many debates on this particular speaker set.

The ICON WF Series is not a replacement for the Reference. It's an alternative for those who love the Klipsch sound but, not the look. Now you have a speaker that's just as efficient, with a slightly warmer sound and will be more compatible with in-home decors (WAF). If you have wondered about the Klipsch product and have been deterred because of submitted post on this website, do yourself a favor a visit your local BB/Magnolia location and check out the WF's. You will be pleasantly surprised!

Regards.
post #3796 of 22396
Does anyone have pictures of the new series that BB will be specifically carrying?
Synergy was over all pretty good, but hopefully the new line isn't a step down in quality like the current lineup of Polk Audio at BB.
Those speakers do not sound very good at all. I do admit they look nice but they feel and sound like toy speakers. Balsa wood and crappy paper woofers.


LDG, you've got my interest piqued to go investigate the WF-35 speakers myself sometime. Hopefully the MHT demo doesn't suck as much as they did for the RF-82s. I swear they cranked the treble for the other speakers because my 82s don't even remotely sound like those did.

Best Regards
KvE
post #3797 of 22396
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Originally Posted by damonrpayne View Post

I'm in Wisconsin, where are you?

Texas, I will fly if I have too. Besides, Im in the market for some good ol' Wisconsin Cheese
post #3798 of 22396
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Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya View Post

Does anyone have pictures of the new series that BB will be specifically carrying?
Synergy was over all pretty good, but hopefully the new line isn't a step down in quality like the current lineup of Polk Audio at BB.

Sorry, but I think Synergy looked ugly as hell compared to Reference and Icon series.
The workmanship of the Icon series is beautiful to behold. I hope people will find they sound as good as they look.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....c=abcat0200000
post #3799 of 22396
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Originally Posted by ldgibson76 View Post

This audition was actually performed on Saturday evening (August 9, 2008)
I originally posted it yesterday, but due to the CRASH!, it was deleted.
As I said in the original post, this is in no way shape or form a professional review, just purely subjective and of my own opinion.
Some may find my description of the speakers performance, unsophisticated, and for that, I apologize. Hopefully, it will give you some insight about the WF-35's sound compared to the Reference and some other makes and models.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
Regards.

You mentioned the WC-24 was set up, did you listen to it, and if so, any comment?
post #3800 of 22396
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Originally Posted by slogun View Post

Sorry, but I think Synergy looked ugly as hell compared to Reference and Icon series.
The workmanship of the Icon series is beautiful to behold. I hope people will find they sound as good as they look.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....c=abcat0200000

Oh, I agree with you the Synergy line doesn't look all that nice and refine. Kind of has that boom box speaker look to them, the appearance of being big and beefy.

Even though the sound isn't as nice as other speakers out there, it was the best that BB carried. Now of course the Ref. is a whole different league but was carried only by MHT.

On the website they still don't show what BB will carry, only what Mag. carries.

So does anyone have some pix of the Icon series that BB will carry? Not what Mag. carries.

Best Regards
KvE
post #3801 of 22396
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Originally Posted by slogun View Post

You mentioned the WC-24 was set up, did you listen to it, and if so, any comment?

Yes, the WC-24 was set up and available for audition, but I did not listen to it.
Again, I was there strictly for the WF-35's! I did take a look at the CC and it's small in comparison to the RC62 or even the RC52. But, it's solid and has good weight to it.

Regards.
post #3802 of 22396
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Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya View Post

On the website they still don't show what BB will carry, only what Mag. carries.
So does anyone have some pix of the Icon series that BB will carry? Not what Mag. carries.
Best Regards
KvE

Maybe they do things differently around here. BB and Magnolia are virtually one and the same out here, there's no Magnolia without BB, and most BBs have been incorporating a Magnolia.
"there is not a Magnolia Audio Video showroom in your area, please contact the nearest design center..."
And the BBs that don't have a Magnolia are still carrying Synergy and that's it from Klipsch.
The link I referenced lists the Icon sries via Magnolia and Synergy via the Magnolia-less BBs.
post #3803 of 22396
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Originally Posted by slogun View Post

Maybe they do things differently around here. BB and Magnolia are virtually one and the same out here, there's no Magnolia without BB, and most BBs have been incorporating a Magnolia.
"there is not a Magnolia Audio Video showroom in your area, please contact the nearest design center..."
And the BBs that don't have a Magnolia are still carrying Synergy and that's it from Klipsch.
The link I referenced lists the Icon sries via Magnolia and Synergy via the Magnolia-less BBs.

You can always contact your friendly independent, knowledgeable and oh so humble forum member and Klipsch dealer (AHEM) who can sell you Icon W. I believe BB and CC will have the new Icon B, which is a more basic version of the Icon W with black vinyl cabinets and Aluminum compression drivers (vs Titanium in the Icon B and Icon XL).
post #3804 of 22396
Can anyone tell me if my RS-52 speakers are dipole or bipole? Im pretty sure they are dipole, just wanna make sure cuz the web site doesnt say what type they are

TIA
post #3805 of 22396
Is there anyone in Edmonton (Canada) with the RF82s who are willing to audition them? I like the brighter sound from titanium tweeters, and I am hoping to listen to both the Axiom M60 and the Klipsch RF82, so I know what high-impact speakers sound like.
post #3806 of 22396
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Originally Posted by Beta Tester View Post

Is there anyone in Edmonton (Canada) with the RF82s who are willing to audition them? I like the brighter sound from titanium tweeters, and I am hoping to listen to both the Axiom M60 and the Klipsch RF82, so I know what high-impact speakers sound like.

Not sure about the Axiom, but the RF-82 is said to be one of the warmest sounding speakers in the new Reference IV lineup.
post #3807 of 22396
I noticed that some stores in Canada are carrying the RF35, which I thought was discontinued? Apparently the RF82 is its replacement, but it is significantly more expensive.

I am after a high-impact speaker for movies. Does the RF35 have the wide dynamic range sound that Klipsch is known for?
post #3808 of 22396
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Originally Posted by Beta Tester View Post

I noticed that some stores in Canada are carrying the RF35, which I thought was discontinued? Apparently the RF82 is its replacement, but it is significantly more expensive.

I am after a high-impact speaker for movies. Does the RF35 have the wide dynamic range sound that Klipsch is known for?

Absolutely! Is it at the level of the RF63 or RF83? No, but it very close compare to the RF82's in overall performance! But there are differences between the 35's and 82's. The 82's are 2 inches longer in depth, 2 inches taller, .2 inches wider, 12 lbs heavier. Has an improved tweeter. Higher wattage rating RMS (150W) and peak (600W) compared to the 35's 125W RMS and 500W peak. The crossover is 600Hz lower allowing the 82's to go a little deeper. So overall, the RF82 is a finer speaker than the RF35, but IMHO, the performance improvement overall is minimal. In other words, you wouldn't be hurting yourself choosing the RF35's. They do have the dynamic range that Klipsch is known for.

Regards.
post #3809 of 22396
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Originally Posted by ldgibson76 View Post

Absolutely! Is it at the level of the RF63 or RF83? No, but it very close compare to the RF82's in overall performance! But there are differences between the 35's and 82's. The 82's are 2 inches longer in depth, 2 inches taller, .2 inches wider, 12 lbs heavier. Has an improved tweeter. Higher wattage rating RMS (150W) and peak (600W) compared to the 35's 125W RMS and 500W peak. The crossover is 600Hz lower allowing the 82's to go a little deeper. So overall, the RF82 is a finer speaker than the RF35, but IMHO, the performance improvement overall is minimal. In other words, you wouldn't be hurting yourself choosing the RF35's. They do have the dynamic range that Klipsch is known for.

Regards.

Thanks, I will go and audition them. I can't wait to find out what high-impact speakers sound like.

[Couple of questions added later] Is the RF35 available in cherry like the RF82? I cannot have my speakers more than 12" away from the back and side walls - is this a problem since they are rear-ported?
post #3810 of 22396
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Originally Posted by Latin-Man View Post

Can anyone tell me if my RS-52 speakers are dipole or bipole? Im pretty sure they are dipole, just wanna make sure cuz the web site doesnt say what type they are

TIA

Bipole.
Reference is from the review in Sound & Vision. You can get the link from the Klipsch website.
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