Klipsch owner thread - Page 203

Fireman,
Where did you find 8' long rope light? I have only seen it in longer lengths. Did you consider colored rope light? I don't know, it might look hokey. Whit is likely best, especially since I have a white light behind my DLP TV to avoid eye strain.
Thanks, Dave

Has there been any rumors regarding a successor to the Reference series of speakers? With them having been released in 2006, they seem to be about the oldest in Klipsch's line (Icon X - 2007, Icon W - 2008).

Would anyone consider either of the Icon series to be a replacement or at least superior to the Reference series? A speaker purchase is imminent but when I was price checking one store, they said they stopped carrying the Reference line altogether as it was 'replaced' with the Icon W series. He said 'replaced' but I have to wonder given how different their specifications are and I'm interested more in home theatre over music.

It would be rather devastating to have invested ~$3k into a set of speakers only to have them rendered obsolete by a new line.

I wouldn't say they've been "replaced" by any new line. That particular dealer may have replaced the Reference line with something else so they could turn a better profit, but that's about it.

With regards to your last statement, would your speakers suddenly stop sounding good just because a new model came out?

I think it's already been discussed in this thread, but the new Icons aren't a replacement... More of a low budget option. They are NOT superior. IIRC, the Reference line is much older than than 2006 and Heritage series would take the cake for the oldest in the line up.

I don't see how spending $3k with a good setup would be devistating regardless of what came out. If they're good spearkers and you like them, then they're worth what you're willing to pay. They'll always be the speakers you bought.

When you've spent significant amounts of time researching a product, price comparing and saving for said product only to have something that's superior in every come out after you're committed, call me crazy but that would be frustrating.

In spite of the previous generation M3 being an amazing car, I'm still going to buy the current generation M3. It's all about getting the most for your money, isn't it?

In any case, I appreciate the feedback.

Most for your money? I don't think using a car is a good comparison. I can get an the last generation M3 for MUCH cheaper than the current. An older model has already depreciated for the most part... Meaning, if I buy it and take it off the lot, it won't drop in value quite like a new car.

Speakers are just like everything else. If you buy the latest and greatest thing today, something newer (and better?) IS going to come along eventually. Like I asked before though, does that make your speakers not sound as good all of a sudden? Or in your car analogy, would your car not handle as well or go as fast just because a new model came out? Unless you're extremely wealthy you can't forever have the newest of everything.

Anyone selling a pair of "old" RS 62

PM me, im in Denmark and i will ship thise via, a couirer firm...

Amazon have a new pair at @ 549$

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UVYHRG/...0&linkCode=asn

And a pair of new open box "used" at 479$

The reference MSRP range per pair goes from $538 to $2,798 so I would not label the Icons as the low budget option since the most expensive pair is $2,500

FTR, there are three different Icon options: Vs ( Best Buy specific and more affordable), Ws ( Best of the Icons IMO), and the Xs.

IMO, the Icon Ws reproduce more balanced mids and highs than the RF-x2's and have an outstanding WAF. No Reference speaker can compare in this last category.

The fact that there are many satisfied Reference customers that stand by their purchase is very clear in this forum. I did compare RF-82/63s and WF-34/35s, ended up buying WF-35s, and am also a very satisfied Klipsch owner.

The Reference series have been around longer than 2006. The Icon series was designed and marketed for a different type of clientele, (a life style type speaker is what I believe it is referred as). It is a smaller and easier speaker to place in a smaller space. The Reference line is considered to be at a higher quality level with clientele that are able to place in their rooms a larger cabinet speaker. The Reference has it's own nitch between the Synergy and Icon, and the much more expensive Heritage and Palladiums, and as well as it continues to be sold, I don't see it going away any time soon, unless it is replaced by a similar line, which the Icon is not.

Last year, Klipsch made the decision to start to direct department store vendors, (Best Buy, Magnolia, etc), to unload the Reference line speakers still in their inventory. These department type stores are no longer authorized to carry them. These days, the only authorized dealers are beau-tic specialty stores and authorized installers. Word has it that the Reference line was never meant to be sold through Best Buy, Magnolia, etc. The Synergy line, and now the Icon line is.

No, relatively speaking the old car (or old speakers) doesn't handle (or sound) as good as the new ones; and if the cost is the same, any rationale person would take the newer version.

That said, if the 'shelf life' of modern speakers is several (4+) years than so be it. That was my goal in coming here, determining if I could expect an update to the current Reference Series line given it's age or if it'll be going strong for another year or more.

I'm not advocating (or practicing) perpetually putting off major purchases indefinitely due to fear of the inevitable improvements but if someone were to say they heard a new line was coming in the spring or summer I'd probably wait.

For each step up, the Reference is more expensive.


Maybe your wife... My wife doesn't care either way.

I'm going to buy some klipsch speakers this week and could use some help choosing from RF-62's or RF-82's the deference in price is just under $200. the receiver that I'll be getting is either the onkyo 606 or 702.

Thanks

This is actually pointless to debate...


Mine doesn't either but the Icon Ws do look nicer -- a matter of opinion. Thank god for options Imagine if you were stuck with the Icons or me with the Reference line.

Kuwen: This is somewhat subjective and nothing is being replaced. I recommend you should just audition and see what you like best that is within your budget. I listened to the RF-63s and was not impressed but liked the more affordable 82s. Some folks probably think that is ridiculous but that's the point. It's not about what other people think or like -- it's about what you like.

Which leaves me wondering why you said anything to be honest...

The Icon's are not in the realm of the reference 4 series.
Icon's have lower mfg costs for higher mark up.
They are a gimmick for big box stores to be sold to J6P.

Having said that, their probably one of better option in a Magnolia "showroom".

Geez

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does bb carry klipsch ref series? i've seen the icons there and demo'd them extensively. would have been great to do a direct comparison against the "lifestyle" design speakers.

even though the icon x line makes some compromises for the better design i still prefered the sound of the klipsch x series stuff compared to anything in the bb magnolia showroom (around the same price point).

i had very limited space so they fit very nicely. didn't hurt matching the x series surround setup with an svs 20-39 pc+ either if the sound was any louder my neighbors would run
from their houses screaming.

Nope, as far as I know, not at all.

Need help deciding which klipsch to go with. Will be using a Denon 3808 untill i can afford better seperates. Here are my options:

3 thx 650klr ( R,C,L )
2 rb-81's rear

or

2 rf-83's R,L
1 rc64 center
2 rb-81's rear

or

3 hersey III's R, C, L
2 Rb-81's rear

I cant decide which ones to get. My room is 15x12 with 8ft ceilings.

Andrew is correct. BB Magnolia stores had them at one time, but dropped them several months back for the Icon line IIRC.

You mind if I ask why you're only looking at the RB-81's for your surrounds? Not that they would be insufficient, but have you considered the RS-62's?

Hey guys, what are your opinions on the WF-34's http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1210379096835 ? I just ordered them from BB after listening to them. I thought they sounded great ... I wanted the WF-35 but I didn't see such a huge difference deserving of $250 more for each one. Also I ordered the WC-24 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1210378662876

The 35s reproduce vocals and lows better and than the 34s IMO. The MSRP difference between them is $150 each but you can negotiate at best buy. I'd go back and ask for 15% off the 35s.

Hey guys,

I just wanted some advice....

My setup is as follows:

Pioneer VSX-9130TXH Receiver
2 x RF-82's
1 x RC-62
1 x Sub 12
Room size: 20' x 16'

How would the RS-42's work with this type of set up? The Futureshop in my area only carries the RS-42s.... I know ideally my setup should have RS-52's but would the RS-42's be sufficient enough as surrounds?

they will work fine. i have RS42s with my RF63s and RC64
i would rather the RS62s but havent gotten them yet as they are as high as giraffe's coochie.

They were tweaked (updated) in 2006.

I'm sure the RS-42's would be "sufficient", but is this solely an availability issue, or does price come into play here? If you're willing to pay the difference between the 42's and 52's, there are plenty of reputable online dealers you can order them from. Also keep an eye out on sites like Audiogon where you can often pick up a slightly used or demo pair for a really good deal.

Where abouts are you located? If you are in the GTA area check out audio empire, some where on albion road, as they are an authorized klipsch dealer. A few people i know have gotten great prices and deals from there, so give it a shot.