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post #751 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Hoosier1 View Post

Thanks - I will probably go with the 82s. The price difference compared to the 83s is significant, and I haven't heard any complaints about the 82s.

You are not likely to hear many complaints. The RF-83 is a step higher in the line, but the RF-82 is an excellent speaker that will be equally at home with HT or music, and will perform great with or without a sub, (though if you plan to also use your speakers for HT applications, I highly encourage a good sub to go with your system).
post #752 of 22372
What would you guys recommend my next step to upgrade in my HT speakers?

Currently I have all Klipsch:

RF3 x 2
RC62 x 1
RS52 x 2
KDS 1.1 x 2

HSU 3.3 Subwoofer

Should I upgrade my fronts or my rear surrounds? Currently my rear surrounds are lacking compared to the rest of my speakers but would it be more prudent to update my fronts first or even move the RF3s to Rear Surround duty. Whats a good acoustic match for the rc-62 but better than the rf-3s?
post #753 of 22372
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Originally Posted by sethhobrin View Post

What would you guys recommend my next step to upgrade in my HT speakers?

Currently I have all Klipsch:

RF3 x 2
RC62 x 1
RS52 x 2
KDS 1.1 x 2

HSU 3.3 Subwoofer

Should I upgrade my fronts or my rear surrounds? Currently my rear surrounds are lacking compared to the rest of my speakers but would it be more prudent to update my fronts first or even move the RF3s to Rear Surround duty. Whats a good acoustic match for the rc-62 but better than the rf-3s?

The RF-82 is a matched main to the RC-62. I have that setup, and am very happy with it. If your room can handle your RF3's as as rear surrounds, then I would do it in a heartbeat.

How does the HSU sound with your system? I'm thinking about picking up that monster to complete my setup. (RF82's,RC62,RW52's)
post #754 of 22372
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Originally Posted by fsullivan3 View Post

The RF-82 is a matched main to the RC-62. I have that setup, and am very happy with it. If your room can handle your RF3's as as rear surrounds, then I would do it in a heartbeat.

How does the HSU sound with your system? I'm thinking about picking up that monster to complete my setup. (RF82's,RC62,RW52's)


It sounds phenomenal. I absolutely love the HSU 3.3 and for the cost/performance you cannot beat it. However I have noticed that with all speakers set to small and crossovers at 80hz the upper bass seems to be lacking. I changed my fronts to large and front crossover to 60hz, and set subwoofer to LFE+MAIN and my whole system came to life and sounded amazing. This could just be due to the fact that I am using nearfield placement for my sub as well as my room acoustics so your mileage may vary but I love my 3.3. If you are watching a movie with low 16-20hz bass prepare to have your house collapse....
post #755 of 22372
I've been tinking about upgrading my speakers for a while since they are not able to keep up with my subs. I have 2 18" TC Sound PA-5000, each in a 380 liter cabinet, driven by a bridged Crown amp (each sub is being feed 1950 watts).

Anyway, my current 7.1 setup is as follows:

KLF-30 Mains
KLF-C7 Center
RS-3 Surrounds (4)

I use an Adcom GFA-5500 to drive the KLF-30s and a GFA-7500 to drive the C7 and RS-3s.

Would something like the RF-83 Home Theater System (without the sub of course), offer a significant gain compared to my ~7 year old speakers, or do the KLF-30's (with matching center and surrounds) still hold their own against the new stuff?

Thanks!
post #756 of 22372
I have a guy that wants to sell me a set of RS-35's that are white. I can not not find a pic of a white rs speaker anywhere. Anybody have a pic of these or have them in there HT? I only see the black versions on the web.
Thanks!!
post #757 of 22372
Wolfsbane (or others) - any suggestions on subs that would work well with the Klipsch Reference series, particularly an RF-82/RC-62 combination?
post #758 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Hoosier1 View Post

Wolfsbane (or others) - any suggestions on subs that would work well with the Klipsch Reference series, particularly an RF-82/RC-62 combination?

HIGHLY recommend the HSU vtf3 mk3 or the HSU HO either with or without turbo or a Mid Bass Module depending on your room size, sound preferences, and budget.
post #759 of 22372
Are they still making the vtf3 mk3? I heard one of the vtf series was being discontinued.
post #760 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Hoosier1 View Post

Are they still making the vtf3 mk3? I heard one of the vtf series was being discontinued.

the mark 3 is not being discontinued. It will be a flagship sub for some time yet. The HO is THE flagship with the mark 3 right behind it.

Honestly I prefer the Mark 3 over the HO. The HO has deeper extension at the tradeoff of a little less midbass. The Mark 3 diggs just as deep but a hair quieter but has amazing midbass.

You can't go wrong with either really and for the money I don't think you can find a better cost/performance ratio.
post #761 of 22372
How much of a difference is there between the ol' RF-3 model and the RF-82? Is there a very large sound quality difference?
post #762 of 22372
Just spoke to JR.com

(2) RF-82
(1) RC-64
(2) RS-62
(2) RB-61

All for $2300.00 usd + tax + shipping

Thoughts of this setup? And thought on the price?

thanks.
post #763 of 22372
Hey Aquafire,

That looks like a real fine setup. Have you heard them yet and what are you planning on powering them with?
post #764 of 22372
Yes been listening to them for months!

Pioneer Elite- 82TSX- 130 watts x 7

Will
post #765 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Hoosier1 View Post

Wolfsbane (or others) - any suggestions on subs that would work well with the Klipsch Reference series, particularly an RF-82/RC-62 combination?

There is a fairly good variety of good quality subs that will match up well with the RF-82. SVS, HSU, JL, Velo... It depends on your budget, application, and room size. I presently have an SVS PB-12NSD. There are other SVS and HSU subs in that size range that match well with them.

Remember that if music is your main application, that you will need to use care and accuracy to set levels and phase between your mains and your sub.
post #766 of 22372
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Originally Posted by aquafire View Post

Yes been listening to them for months!

Pioneer Elite- 82TSX- 130 watts x 7

Will

Cool. It looks like you will be set. I had my Denon AVR 4802R bite the dust due to a Power Surge and I am waiting for my AVR 4806 to get here--The anticipation is killing me after reading through the "Denon AVR 4806 owners Thread."
post #767 of 22372
would it be ok to use klipsch center channel with paradigm 7se series that i already have as my fronts?
post #768 of 22372
Just poking my head into this thread. I picked up a pair of RB-5 IIs with real cherry veneer the other evening. Seems like they're about 5 years old. One of the grills has 3 of the pegs knocked off and there are some scratches on the bottom of the cabinets where the previous owner had them placed on the floor, and not stands.

The good news is that I paid $75 for the pair. These sold for $850 when they were new. I have them in the bedroom with my budget 12" sub, Denon 2800 and a Squeezebox. They really make my music come alive. I've found that very seldom, I'm able to hear Klipsch speakers in a showroom that sound good. But, at home, I love them.

It would be interesting to see how much different the new RB-81 is when compared to these. I know the newer cabinets weigh a few more pounds, but the ol' RB-5s were made out of MDF, too.
post #769 of 22372
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

...It would be interesting to see how much different the new RB-81 is when compared to these. I know the newer cabinets weigh a few more pounds, but the ol' RB-5s were made out of MDF, too.

I've had a pair of RB81s since June, 2006 and have promoted them to be mains in the HT (replacing a pair of RF5 which now are part of a music only system). They are still quite detailed, but maybe a bit less forward.

Even though the horns are different, the RB81s blend in well with the older speakers I am using (RCIIIB and RB35).
post #770 of 22372
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

It would be interesting to see how much different the new RB-81 is when compared to these. I know the newer cabinets weigh a few more pounds, but the ol' RB-5s were made out of MDF, too.

There are differences, but not earth shaking differences. The slightly larger cabinets, and increased volume of the cabinet help to improve the sound at the lower end and at the low mids. The horn geometry have been redesigned for increased smoothness and reality at the higher end. The mids are better.

The difference is not radical, however. And it is a matter of personal taste. Some long time Klipsch owners like the new line, but others prefer the sound of the older line. Lot of Klipsch owners, for example, will not part with their RF-7, for any speaker in the new line. Others jump at the RF-83 right away.
post #771 of 22372
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

... I picked up a pair of RB-5 IIs with real cherry veneer the other evening. Seems like they're about 5 years old. One of the grills has 3 of the pegs knocked off and there are some scratches on the bottom of the cabinets where the previous owner had them placed on the floor, and not stands.

The good news is that I paid $75 for the pair.

$75! I purchased a pair of RB-5's a couple of years ago when ULTE was going out of business in Texas for $400. I was going to use them as rears in a 7.1 configuration in the bedroom. When I put them in, my wife gave it a listen and freaked--Way TOO enveloping of an experience for the bedroom HT.

BTW, I have those in storage and thought about selling them--unless someone was going to give me $300 for them I am keeping them. IMO, $75 is a steal if there are only cosmetic damages.
post #772 of 22372
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Originally Posted by slacajun View Post

would it be ok to use klipsch center channel with paradigm 7se series that i already have as my fronts?

I wouldn't think so. The Klipsch horn tweeter design would not match sonically your paradigms, IMO.
post #773 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

I wouldn't think so. The Klipsch horn tweeter design would not match sonically your paradigms, IMO.

so can you recommend a center channel to use?
post #774 of 22372
Hey Guys,

I was at the Paradigm dealer yesterday who said the Klipsch are great at high volumes but at low volume the tweeter horn is all you hear...any truth to this?

Any comments on this setup? And is this a good price?

Just spoke to JR.com

(2) RF-82
(1) RC-64
(2) RS-62
(2) RB-61

All for $2300.00 usd + tax + shipping
post #775 of 22372
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Originally Posted by aquafire View Post

Hey Guys,

I was at the Paradigm dealer yesterday who said the Klipsch are great at high volumes but at low volume the tweeter horn is all you hear...any truth to this?

Any comments on this setup? And is this a good price?

BS. There are alot of different opinions and I have come to discover people hear things (speakers/material) differently and of course the HT environment makes all the difference in the world.

IMO. the only way that could be true was if you were under powering your Klipsch Speakers and then at high levels the tweeters would sound "bright." That has been my experience. I am sure a mid level Denon would drive your proposed system quite nicely. That's not to say the AVR you are looking at won't because I have seen posts by Klipschsters who are happy with their Pioneers as well.

I have more thoughts to ad but I will save it for a later post.
post #776 of 22372
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Originally Posted by slacajun View Post

so can you recommend a center channel to use?

I would go to the Paradigm Owners Thread and look for suggestions.
post #777 of 22372
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Originally Posted by aquafire View Post

Hey Guys,

I was at the Paradigm dealer yesterday who said the Klipsch are great at high volumes but at low volume the tweeter horn is all you hear...any truth to this?

Any comments on this setup? And is this a good price?

Just spoke to JR.com

(2) RF-82
(1) RC-64
(2) RS-62
(2) RB-61

All for $2300.00 usd + tax + shipping


Not at all. He either has not heard a pair of Klipsch at low levels, or he is choosing to make a generalized statement for his gain.

My spouse rarely, if ever, drives our audio system at high levels. And I can say that the speakers stay as responsive across the frequency spectrum at low levels as they do at high levels. In fact, at very low levels, my sub goes into standby, and I still enjoy two channel programming with just the two main speakers.
post #778 of 22372
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Originally Posted by aquafire View Post

Hey Guys,

I was at the Paradigm dealer yesterday who said the Klipsch are great at high volumes but at low volume the tweeter horn is all you hear...any truth to this?

Any comments on this setup? And is this a good price?

Just spoke to JR.com

(2) RF-82
(1) RC-64
(2) RS-62
(2) RB-61

All for $2300.00 usd + tax + shipping

Not in my experience. I've played my system at all different volume settings and have not noticed and radical balance changes. When you play at lower volumes, it just seems as if you have gotten up from seats in the front row and have moved to the back. The volume is lower, but the tonal balance is fine.

I will add the required however. Your hearing tends to be less sensitive to low frequencies at low volume level (hence the old style "loudness compensation" button). If that is what he is referring to, there is a grain of truth in it, but it would tend to be true for any speaker, not exclusively Klipsch.
post #779 of 22372
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

$75! I purchased a pair of RB-5's a couple of years ago when ULTE was going out of business in Texas for $400. I was going to use them as rears in a 7.1 configuration in the bedroom. When I put them in, my wife gave it a listen and freaked--Way TOO enveloping of an experience for the bedroom HT.

BTW, I have those in storage and thought about selling them--unless someone was going to give me $300 for them I am keeping them. IMO, $75 is a steal if there are only cosmetic damages.

I think your price of $300 for the RB-5s is a good one. The RB-5s that I have will take a few hours of labor to clean up a bit. I'm also going to convert the current system of the grill pins over to magnets for holding the grills on. I was plased as punch when I picked them up the other evening.

Having a bigger master bedroom, these speakers are doing a great job with music for me. I have them crossed over at 80Hz, so they're not performing too much bass duty. But, the sound is very good.
post #780 of 22372
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Originally Posted by aquafire View Post

Hey Guys,

I was at the Paradigm dealer yesterday who said the Klipsch are great at high volumes but at low volume the tweeter horn is all you hear...any truth to this?

Any comments on this setup? And is this a good price?

Just spoke to JR.com

(2) RF-82
(1) RC-64
(2) RS-62
(2) RB-61

All for $2300.00 usd + tax + shipping

The RC-64 is an issue. It uses a different compression driver than the RB-81's and is therefore not tonally matched (it is designed to match the RF-63/RF-83). It is a great center channel (one of the best out there as a matter of fact), but it is not the right match to the RB-81's. The best center channel to use is a third RB-81, followed by the RC-62. Other than that, it is a good package and I've sold/set up several systems along this line (triple RB-81's) with good results.

As for the Klipsch being poor at low volumes, as Col Sherman Potter would say...
Horsehockey.
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