OLED TVs: Technology Advancements Thread - Page 124

Oops, Samsung/CNET retracts the spring launch date...reiterates second half launch.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/televisions/...ring-50006947/

How would one mount an OLED tv to the wall. Isnt the tv too thin for mounting screws? Also, are all the internals to run these (LG or Samsung) OLED TVs contained in the monitor?

Also, isnt an HDMI plug too big (most of HDMI blugs are deeper than 10 mm)?

Saw that coming a mile away.


They are going to have to make choices about how the final product works.

The LG prototype had no electronics on board and needs to be tethered to a port/power box by an "umbilical". I've spoken repeatedly about how much people hate that design. Some AVSers like it, but really, not one model with that design has ever been successful or liked. It's an option for LG, however.

Alternatively, they can add a small amount of depth to the design to support standard plugs and cables.

As for mounting, so long as they have a way of attaching a mounting plate, they'll be fine. The design is light enough that they can create a small system of rails/grooves and let you slide a plate into then then lock that down with a couple of tiny screws. The plate would be designed to work with VESA standard mounts.

Do we know the width of this 55" Samsung? Smaller form factor may let me go bigger in the same space and let me replace 50" Pro110.

If they keep getting lighter, you'll be able to mount them on the wall with these.

We have a winner! The whole production chain would need to change. Again.

^^ It's just color filter, not the entire chain


Again as discussed on multiple threads, these pictures are good marketing tool, but not totally truthful. Light bounces off the back structure of CRT and plasma while LCD will block light. OLED cathode can be transparent.

But better comparison for AVS is in a dark room, where OLED will be like invisible while giving other displays more justice


As rogo mentioned, it would just be like hanging a picture with the right THIN mounting plate

And yes as I mentioned before, I think these sets would have separate box and probably we would see a "as-it-is monitor" comeback in TVs

I did see a press release from Lg that said they are going to have 2 options If its on a stand all the hook ups that are thick (hdmi...etc) are going to in the stand.

If it is mounted the TV will have a back pack(removable) making it thicker no size listed but I would guess maybe 1/2-3/4 inch or so.

So they are thinking of what people want.

Samsung said they are keeping it all in the base. I did not see anything about a wall option could just not be released yet.

I'm rarely in a position to predict anything, but in this case I'm confident that all OLED displays will have a "hanging" option.

Bravo to LG then, that's the right approach -- especially if the stand piece is somehow able to be converted into the backpack.


I see the future, and it matches your prediction.

I wish I could get my wife to read AVS.

This was Samsung's solution to mounting the C9000 series from 2010.
I'm guessing whatever they come up with for OLED will be along the same lines.

http://video.search.yahoo.com/search...-s&fr2=piv-web

That looks pretty cool.

I would concur that the end result will be somewhat similar.

Looks like kind of a pain in the ass to me. I prefer the LG back pack idea.

I do agree I can't imagine Samsung being that short sighted to have no option for wall mounting.

I must of missed it. What's the back pack idea ? How does it differ ? On the surface it seems to me that they would be the same thing. Being that the Samsung solution serves as a base and a wall mount ?

haha agreed. Looking at that Samsung video I kept thinking "holy crap, that looks complicated as heck to do for the average person."

They need to come up with an easier way than unscrewing and screwing lots of screws.

Screw drivers are just too high tech.

Behold the idiocracy (not posting to incite, just a general trend that can be seen).

Konica Minolta's first commercial OLED inkjet printing head will be available to display makers this spring.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1329392549

From the link: "According to industry sources, Dupont's OLED printing technology is not optimized on the sub-pixel level, however. Each pixel on a display panel requires three sub pixels in red, green blue (RGB) to form one pixel."

Can anyone explain what they mean by this? I'm sure Konica is using RGB.

I read that too. It implies they can print OLED material, just not very well. Since the "very well" is the entire problem with RGB manufacturing of large sizes right now, I don't really know what to make of that comment.

Any guesses when we might be hearing more info on the Samsung or LG OLED tvs?

At $10,000 for a 55" set, my freakin grand kids better be able to use it.


CES 2013.

^You're taking bets on neither of them making it to market in 2012 then?

I really doubt you'll hear much of anything before the summer. And I'm very skeptical of Samsung shipping this year.

They'll rather use the holosuite.

The stage is set.. .and not unexpected:

" Feb. 20 (Bloomberg) -- Samsung Electronics Co. said it will spin off its unprofitable liquid-crystal-display division as the company changes its focus to the next generation of TV displays.
The new company, provisionally named Samsung Display Co., will be set up April 1, Samsung said in a filing today. Samsung may merge the unit into the Samsung Mobile Display venture that makes organic light-emitting diode, or OLED, panels, Nam Ki Yung, a Seoul-based spokesman, said by phone.
Samsung’s LCD business had an operating loss of 750 billion won ($668 million) last year as TV sales slowed. Merging its panel-making operations will help the company expand its OLED business by utilizing LCD-manufacturing resources, according to Korea Investment & Securities Co. and Hanwha Securities Co."

Me too. I am not super set on that larger blue subpixel Sammy will have to use seems like it will make a blue shift in the colors.

Yes, I think I have a $5 bet with spectator or saprano that there will be no OLED for sale in the US before Dec 31, 2012. I'll have to check. Good news for me so far is Samsung and LG announced there 2012 model available and pricing sheet and there is no mention of either OLED set.

http://hdguru.com/samsung-2012-hdtv-prices-leaked/7349/