So You Think You Can Dance - Season Two - Page 3  

Next week will start the studio competition shows. Wenesday's show will be 2 hours long, and Thursday's result show is 1 hour. Unlike last year, the results shows look like they will be live.

Too bad Claire Calloway couldn't continue. The cameras liked her a lot and she could really dance!

WHat is the name of the song that the Black Breakdancer dance to for his dance to stay in?????
Please help

Yeah, I was looking forward to seeing a lot more of her. Nice offer from Nigel though. I hope she takes him up on it.

Is Cincinnati the only market w/o HD SYTYCD?

Nope, all markets are w/o HD.

This show is widescreen SD.

We actually have pillarboxed SD in Cincinnati. This also seems different than normal FOX feeds because the FOX logo is not in the bottom right corner of the 16:9 space where it is for Simpsons.

Can someone explain to me why when I capture video clips from my Comcast DVR and open them up in Mpeg Video Wizard, MVW says it is 1280 x 720 (16/9) at 59.94 frames per second? That's HD.

Now perhaps Comcast is upconverting a 16:9 SD feed, but the video looks every bit as good and even better than many of the HD captures I made of the Olympics this spring (which I know had all kinds of converting were going on).

Am I the only one who thinks it's just as good as much of the watered-down HD we're getting these days?

It was a local issue then.

Although this show is shot in widescreen SD, the studio is HD capable. The HD cameras do the downconversion to SD internally. HD cameras are able to make better fine detail in SD than native SD cameras can. The quality of this SD is much higher than is transmitted to the home in SD mode, and much higher than DVD. One might wonder why the show isn't just shot in HD if it's in a HD studio, but there are other HD costs that would be impractical for a summer show. American Idol is the only HD reality show, and being the #1 show makes HD practical.

The taped shows are upconverted to HD from digital component video at Fox, and then sent on the Fox HD network. Detail that would normally be lost through SD transmission is preserved on the HD network. The widescreen SD is "stretched" horizontally to 4:3 for the Fox SD network.

While we all would like everything to be HD, the choices on this show were probably 4:3 SD or 16:9 SD. I think most here would choose the latter, especially when the PQ is better than one would expect from SD.

This image captured OTA from last night's show is a bit blurred because it was a handheld shot, but it does have an interesting element:



Studio 36 is the same studio used for American Idol. No big surprise since it's produced by the same people.

Yeah. She's hawt. Nice how Nigel completely coddled her and the chick that faked a panic attack, yet when the Hawaiian guy nearly paralyzed himself by landing on his head they all just sat there. I guess it really pays to have boobies on this show.

Are you suggesting the Hawiian guy get some implants?

Just to get this thread back on the subject of the show itself and the contestants, at the very end when they showcased short clips of the final 20 I was very impressed. It looked like they had ended up with kids who had genuine professional dancing potential.

Now I'm sure they could have gone exactly the opposite way, and found clips of those very same 20 which showed them as screw-ups and buffoons if they'd wanted to do that instead. But the fact is they were able to present them all as very good dancers, meaning there were at least some moments of real talent to isolate.

I didn't watch the show last year, but am pretty intrigued so far this year.

I wonder if the second series of "So You Think You Can Dance" will be like the second series of the nearest UK equivalent, the BBC's "Strictly Dance Fever". (It is produced by the same team who produce "Strictly Come Dancing" which is also produced by the BBC for ABC as "Dancing with the Stars" - but rather than being celebrity driven it is more "real people" based, and includes wider dance genres.)

The first series was a bit of an unknown concept for the people applying - and so they got quite a mix of talent even in the final. The second series contestants had all watched the first series - and I think the quality of the finalists in the second series was higher as a result - as serious amateur dancers REALLY went for it. The final show had three very good couples in it.

Is the US series couple or solo based? In the UK it is couples - though the couples are paired up as part of the selection process - so solo dancers can enter and be paired up during the show. (Or couples can be split by one qualifying and the other not)

I know Fox is trying to fill time during the summer, but does this show really need a results show? I like the format last year.

I suspect they are following the UK model (though we don't have timezone issues). Every show of this style "Strictly Come Dancing" aka "Dancing with the Stars", "Strictly Dance Fever" anka "So You Think You Can Dance", "Pop Idol" aka "American Idol", "Popstars", "Popstars : The Rivals" etc. have always had a Saturday early evening competition show - with judges comments etc. and then an hour or two for phone voting, followed by a shorter results show later in the evening.

If the performance show rates well, and the public have invested time and effort in voting for the characters in the show, a results show can rate well, and provide a pay-off, rather than having to wait until the following week for a result, as was the case with talent shows in the 70s and 80s in the UK. (Where votes were cast by post...)

Lately the results shows on these reality shows have had a performance by professional talent. Maybe they could get Janet Jackson - on second thought don't want a wardrobe malfunction with this FCC.

Yep - that is a common element on the UK ones as well.

Results show normally goes :

Reminder of competitors and their phone number/SMS code, professional performance, or group performance, then either an elimination, or the public "save" all but two who then either have to dance off for the judges to have the final say, or there can sometimes be a second phone/SMS vote with the lines re-opened...

(The BBC don't make profit from their voting/texting - though sometimes they use it as a way of raising money for a charity like Sport Relief, Comic Relief or Children in Need. ITV and C4 are more likely to use it to help fund their programme...)

That was cool portion of last years show. You had a chance to get to know the dancers more. Now you just have a typical dancer audition and it was not as entertaining.

The show was not widescreen last night (at least on Fox NY thru D*). Was this a local issue or nationwide. thx.

It was wide screen with great PQ KCVU in Chico Ca Ota.

It was widescreen on Bright House HD cable in Orlando, FL.

-- Martin

4:3 here in Central Jersey on Comcast.

One thing that is great about this show is you really can see the foot work in widescreen. One thing I hate about dancing on tv is the director never shows all of the screen.

Must have been a Fox NY problem. thx

Lack of HD on Fox 5 NY (WNYW) should be resolved tonight. The problem was local to the station, and Fox Network worked immediately to resolve the problem. Tonight's show will be live.

WNYW-DT is back to 720p. The problem last night had the video in 480i 480x480.
I wonder why this show in 16:9 SD wide screen looks so much better then the MLB games? Is it cause all the cams are HD? Could FOX be using 16:9 SD cams for MLB?

The biggest reason is that this show is being sourced from COMPONENT video. The MLB games are being upconverted (in every game I've seen), from composite video. That doesn't upconvert well.