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TY-FB8HM blade for Panny: where to find?

post #1 of 170
Thread Starter 
Ok,

I am looking for the TY-FB8HM HDMI blade for the 8-series 50" that is supposed to come in tomorrow. I looked online everywhere, but every place was out of stock.

Does anyone know of a retailer that is shipping them? No need to post their link, their name would be just fine and I will look it up.

Thanks,
George

BTW: I remember these was another thread about this when I did a search and I wanted to post in that thread, but could not find it. MY appologizes!!!
post #2 of 170
www.ourstore.com was where some people here were ordering them, but they are now out of stock. Mine has been on backorder with them for about 3 weeks now...
post #3 of 170
The best price (at a reputable dealer) that I found was at CostCentral.com.
Their shipment for filliing backorders is supposed to have arrived at the warehouse yesterday. I'll call later today to check status.

If all goes well, I'll have it in my hands in a week.

shane
post #4 of 170
I just spoke with CostCentral.
Panasonic missed the 30th, the 31st, and now it looks like MAYBE the 3rd.
Panny gave CostCentral 4 dates of *possible* ETA.
June 3rd, 9th, 12th or 14th.
The only thing this means to me is that Panasonic still can not get their $hit together concerning this card.

Ugh.

shane
post #5 of 170
Any thought of using the DVI-HDCP card? Not sure what the downside is compared to HDMI and the DVI blade offers more input resolution options also... Need an HDMI to DVI adapter I guess but I don't see that as a big deal.
post #6 of 170
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Originally Posted by pred02 View Post

Ok,

I am looking for the TY-FB8HM HDMI blade for the 8-series 50" that is supposed to come in tomorrow. I looked online everywhere, but every place was out of stock.

Does anyone know of a retailer that is shipping them? No need to post their link, their name would be just fine and I will look it up.

Thanks,
George

BTW: I remember these was another thread about this when I did a search and I wanted to post in that thread, but could not find it. MY appologizes!!!

George, I looked and looked. For me, I had a choice out of the cable box, component or dvi--so instead of the frustration and cost of adapters I got a component to vga cable and I love it.
post #7 of 170
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Originally Posted by pred02 View Post

Ok,

I am looking for the TY-FB8HM HDMI blade for the 8-series 50" that is supposed to come in tomorrow. I looked online everywhere, but every place was out of stock.

Does anyone know of a retailer that is shipping them? No need to post their link, their name would be just fine and I will look it up.

Thanks,
George

BTW: I remember these was another thread about this when I did a search and I wanted to post in that thread, but could not find it. MY appologizes!!!

George, I looked and looked. For me, I had a choice out of the cable box, component or dvi--so instead of the frustration and cost of adapters I got a component to vga cable and I love it.

42pwd8uk
post #8 of 170
They are simply selling very well. The best choice would be to find a place that accepts pre-orders, order it, and then just wait for it to come in. It's been like this ever since they came out roughly 6 months ago.
post #9 of 170
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Originally Posted by Kevin C Brown View Post

They are simply selling very well. The best choice would be to find a place that accepts pre-orders, order it, and then just wait for it to come in. It's been like this ever since they came out roughly 6 months ago.

Kevin, I'm a little confused with your post. I just read today in another thread started last month for the HDMI board. You jumped all over a couple of people for saying just as you have posted and insisting that the board is available everywhere and that they just were not trying.

I too am ready to buy not only the HDMI board, but a 65" as well. If the board is not available I guess I'll look at buying a consumer version.
post #10 of 170
Dude, read that thread again. One person kept saying over and over again to buy the DVI board because the HDMI board hadn't been availble for "4 months". That simply is not true. I said then, and I will say it again here: you might have to wait a week or 2, but they are not that hard to get. Patience is a virtue. Good things come to those who wait. Etc, etc, etc.
post #11 of 170
Thread Starter 
I guess I will wait, I have a pre-order with one company. If they come in on the 3rd and anyone has them in stock it would be good. For now I will just use component that came with it, swap out the cables. It is not the cleanest solution, but I guess for now it will have to work.

You are right about Panasonic getting their $hit together. My friend order the 50inch 8-series in February and he had to wait 3 weeks for it. I ordered it from VA (excellent, excellent service BTW) and am getting it tomorrow. But then the hassle of getting the stand, the HDMI blade. I found the stand, the HDMI blade is delaying it... Seriously, they should consider filling their supply and demand. We are not in Eastern Europe anymore with lines and whatnot..
post #12 of 170
Is there a reason why anyone is buying the HDMI card at all? Last I checked it cannot accept its native resolution, only the DVI card can. Has something changed with this new HDMI Card?
post #13 of 170
The HDMI card accepts 480p, 720p, and 1080i, aka up to 525p, 750p, and 1125i. The 37" HD display is 720p native. The 42 and 50" displays are 768p native. I don't see the problem. There are no 768p native signals (except for PC). A 720p signal will get scaled to 768p, DVI or HDMI, doesn't matter.

??

http://panasonic.biz/pdp/manual/manu...b/ty_fb8hm.pdf

pg. 7.
post #14 of 170
Okay, Dude, I have now been put in my place. Thank you.
post #15 of 170
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Originally Posted by notanewbie View Post

Is there a reason why anyone is buying the HDMI card at all? Last I checked it cannot accept its native resolution, only the DVI card can. Has something changed with this new HDMI Card?


First, I read your thread in the VP forum about Panny HDMI not being able to do native resolution over HDMI. Given that Kevin C Brown has posted a PDF that reports the blade can do this resolution, do you think it's a new model or has new firmare? THe work around was DVI, but will this solve your problem?
post #16 of 170
There was a "problem" with the old fb7hm, that it cut 1080i down to 540i res. (For us with ED displays, that ain't no big thang in any case. ) Maybe that's what he was talking about.
post #17 of 170
No Kevin, notanewbie is talking about getting native rate through HDMI. Currently it can't be done on Panny's. Read this thead for details (it's long):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=638211

So, if you want to do 1:1 pixel mapping with the current Panny's you need DVI.

What I am asking is this a new blade or something that will make it work? At first I said yes, but after just checking the specs again, it looks like it still can't do it. Bummer.
post #18 of 170
AJ- I read the 1st page, and while it might not accept the native rate of the display itself, I don't think most people are going to care except those with PCs (or an external upscaler).

Is that the gist of the thread: If you don't have an external scaler, it doesn't matter then?
post #19 of 170
I guess, but having the ability do due NR is a big deal to some of us who use video processors. If you want to add one in the future then you are out of luck with the HDMI. After using a VP I could never go back to Panny's scaler.

John
post #20 of 170
I bet most people with $2000 - $3000 plasmas are *not* going to be using a $2000 external scaler with it.

And besides, if I ever did want to use one in the future, I could probably pick up a DVI terminal card on the cheap. And there is no reason why if the DVI card works this way, that the next version of the HDMI card couldn't work this way too.

Plus, there is still the known problem that if you convert HDMI to DVI with some DVD players, blacker than black info is lost.
post #21 of 170
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Originally Posted by Kevin C Brown View Post

Plus, there is still the known problem that if you convert HDMI to DVI with some DVD players, blacker than black info is lost.


Really? I thought DVI carried the same exact video signal as HDMI.
post #22 of 170
No one seems to remember the input from jsf2001, who says that the picture that he gets from the 8 series board is clearly superior to that of the 7 series. I think that when Shane 55 finally gets his 8 series board, we will find that IT is the one that triggers the 14-bit processing with the 4096 grayscale steps and the 68 billion colors. My theory is that the 7 series board does not do it, and the only way to get the full glory of the 8UK is to use the 8 series HDMI connection. The Panny support guy that said they only test the 8UK with the 8 series board, seems to be supportin my theory. Shane55 will settle this once and for all, but I believe jsf2001 when he says that the 8 series board does things that the 7 series does not...
post #23 of 170
I actually saw someone selling them on Ebay. I didn't need one but its like he's sold a lot in the past. Kind of pricey but he states that Panny doesn't offer then in the US anymore. So maybe it is worth it. Hell...you spend $2,000.00 on the TV whats another couple hundred bucks?
post #24 of 170
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Originally Posted by tomboyter View Post

No one seems to remember the input from jsf2001, who says that the picture that he gets from the 8 series board is clearly superior to that of the 7 series. I think that when Shane 55 finally gets his 8 series board, we will find that IT is the one that triggers the 14-bit processing with the 4096 grayscale steps and the 68 billion colors. My theory is that the 7 series board does not do it, and the only way to get the full glory of the 8UK is to use the 8 series HDMI connection. The Panny support guy that said they only test the 8UK with the 8 series board, seems to be supportin my theory. Shane55 will settle this once and for all, but I believe jsf2001 when he says that the 8 series board does things that the 7 series does not...

Tom: I need to clarify what I observed and noted elsewhere on this forum as it relates to these two boards. As I have not performed a side by side comparison of PQ from identical source material, I cannot say for certain that the PQ from an 8 series board is clearly superior to that of the 7 series board. What I can say is that the PQ from an 8 series board for 480p, 720p and 1080i source material is clearly superior to the PQ of such source material when the panel is fed via high grade component cable. In particular, I recall seeing a significant improvement in the PQ of 1080i source material. The PQ of Comcast digital cable through the 8 series board is also clearly superior to the PQ of DirecTV fed to the panel through a 7 series board. Prior to the purchase and installation of an 8 series board, I also noted that the PQ of Comcast digital cable fed to the panel through high grade component cable was no better than the PQ (perhaps slightly worse) than the PQ of DirecTV fed to the panel through a 7 series board.

Finally, I also reported that I was surprised by the significant increase in PQ when moving from component to the 8 series board as I did not see a similar improvement in PQ when I moved from component to a 7 series board when feeding the panel a signal from DirecTV. This led me to investigate further and I posted the differences in signal processing between the 2 boards as reflected in the printed manuals for each board. (I also provided web url references to allow other forum members to read the manuals for themselves and confirm what I had found.) The information in the printed manuals seemed to support what I had seen on the panel itself, namely that the 8 series board processed 1080i signals differently than the 7 series board. My read of the specs had me wondering if the 7 series board "bobbed" 1080i signal (showing only 540 lines at a time). While I have not been able to absolutely confirm this conclusion (as it is not practical for me to conduct a side-by-side comparison using identical source material), no one at Panasonic (to my knowledge) has refuted this hypothesis to date. I informed BruZZi about the differences in the manuals for the 2 boards and shared this information with other forum members so that those interested in purchasing an HDMI board for an 8UK panel could make an informed decision. BruZZi has since added this information to his Panny FAQ.

Note that one cannot use an 8 series board in a 7UY panel, but one can use a 7 series board in an 8UK panel.
post #25 of 170
Called CostCentral.
No boards received on the 3rd.
Now I wait for the 9th (call on the 10th).

I wish they'd get their ship together.

As for Sir Tomboyter's high hopes that I'll be able to settle this dispute... naw. I'll just tell you my observations just like jsf has and we'll go from there. I'm just hoping that my observations are similar to his.

Meanwhile, I'm gonna kick back and enjoy the show.

shane
post #26 of 170
I couldn't find these anywhere either!!!!
I originally contacted Panasonic on the TY-FB8HM module. they told me that the do not sell them in the US anymore, but I also found an ebay seller who is selling these HDMI's for panasonic (probably the same seller as the above post mentions). Just last week I ordered another one from him and currently using them at my BAR/GRILL in short hills, nj. I definitely would recommend this seller, since I have bought quite a few from him (six). If your interested, heres the link...

hxxp://cgi.*********/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9735233880&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
GOOD LUCK!
Rikki
post #27 of 170
Just a quick FYI,

If the link above does not work. you can always go to ebay and search TY-FB8HM and look for seller mystro9876.
post #28 of 170
I believe that was the seller's name.
post #29 of 170
Thank You jsf2001 and Shane55 for continuing to monitor and clear up any misunderstanding that might exist with regard to my earlier post. My simple brain still reads..."I also reported that I was surprised by the significant increase in PQ when moving from component to the 8 series board as I did not see a similar improvement in PQ when I moved from component to a 7 series board when feeding the panel a signal from DirecTV." ...as meaning that the 8 series board is noticably superior to the 7 series.

Doesn't it seem strange that these things have been out for a year now, and NO ONE seems to know if there is any truth the Panasonic's claim of 14-bit processing thru the HDMI port? None of the "Professional" reviewers, none of our usual "gurus", no one seems to be able to say one war or the other. I find that to be rather odd, and more than a little off putting.
post #30 of 170
Kevin C Brown insists that the TY-FB8HM is not hard to get, you just have to wait 2-3 weeks.

Let's all get the count together and present it to Kevin for a group buy through him. What ya say Kevin?
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