Big Mouth In DC's beautiful black/grey theater - Page 47

Yes, but in this case the insulation was for acoustical reasons not thermal. I do wish I had invested in a DIY foam kit for the rim joist area. But I was young and foolish back then.

So I invested in 24 inch wide insulation and spent hours cutting it.

That works too!

I posted some of this information over on the CIH forum but I thought I would bring a summary of it into my thread so that I always know where it is.

When I rebuilt my screen wall I found a fabric at Hancock Fabrics that resembled the SMX ProPanels so I decided to use it for the panels surrounding the screen frame.

Here are two pictures comparing the Micro velvet to GOM FR701 (AKA the burlap)

First no flash:



With flash:



I don't have any test equipment to test for Acoustical transparency but I can do a blow through and shine through test. Here is the shine through results draping the fabric over my monitor:

GOM FR701:



Micro velvet:



I've been very happy using the Micro velvet. It is darker and a little "classier" than the burlap. It matches the screen frame and masking panels perfectly and makes the screen look almost like it is floating in mid air. With only the sub behind the fabric I can't detect any difference in the audio.

The fabric is this one.

http://www.hancockfabrics.com/Micro-...VVviewprod.htm

Hancock Fabric Item# 128157

Hancock will honor competitor coupons and I used a JoAnne's 50% off any one item coupon successfully at the store.

Comparison of SMX screen, Pro Panel, Frame, Micro Velvet, GOM Crystal blue. Left to right.



Notes: the micro velvet is at an angle to the camera. the Pro Panel is showing some reflection back from the screen. Under different lighting conditions the Pro panel actually looks darker than a swatch of the Micro velvet so I am now convinced that they are only nearly identical.

This picture really surprised me because I can not see a difference with the naked eye but when I look at the LCD viewfinder I see this difference:

That looks interesting, I am planning to build a baffle wall and mount my SMX AT screen in front of it, so I need something that matches the color and texture of the frame on the SMX... the front speakers will be part of this wall and it needs to be covered with something. Acoustic qualities will be important as well...

So the screen frame and masking panels for the SMX screen appear to use the same material?

yes, see update above. They are only "nearly" identical

Biggie,

I bought the Madonna Dress velvet from them, a long time ago. Did you compare the micro velvet and dress velvet by chance? The blow through test on the DV was good.

Just wondering.

Actually the Dress velvet made my butt look bigger so I dropped it from consideration.

Wonder why the difference through the view finder? Hmmmm......interesting for sure. What are the colored lines (red and blue) that I'm seeing in the photo of the micro velvet?

Regards,

RTROSE

I don't understand why, the desciption says it "stretches".....

Yeah, but it says nothing about lifting or minimizing. THAT'S your problem right there.

Regards,

RTROSE

Which photo? If it is the one with the monitor that is different colored text on this forum.

The color difference could be just the flash and the reflected light that it produces?

Good thought, both were at the same angle but the fabric was pinned to the wall, the smx panel has a frame that in that picture is holding the fabric a fraction of an inch off wall and perhaps that is the difference. But, I am of the opinion that there is a slight difference between the two. IMHO You can't see it with the naked eye in normal lighting.

Doh! Missed that, I can see it now. Thought my eyes/mind were playing tricks with me, or that you were so bleary eyed from all your work you couldn't see it.

Regards,

RTROSE

So maybe the micro velvet could still be a contender for my baffle wall project if it's acoustic properties didn't alter the front sound stage... There is a store reasonable close by (considering I live on an island!).

Otherwise, I saw that Ruben sold masking panels but will he sell the pro masking fabric in bulk?

I don't think he does any DIY stuff anymore - could be wrong though.

That would be too bad, I haven't actually contacted him about the Pro masking sets but what I wanted to do was a little different then what he offers.

Big, when you say "nearly identical" are you comparing to the AT SMX masks or their non AT masks?

Also, how much stretch is there in the velvet fabric? Do you think it could be used on rollers for an automated masking system?

Thanks.

Moggie as far as I know I have the acoustically transparent Pro-panels. They certainly aren't solid. But then I didn't know there was a difference until you brought it up.

As for stretch, there is some but it is not a stretch fabric. It stretches a little more than GOM.

Damn it, McCall said stretchy velvet is the bomb...

It may be perfect for your application, in my typical style I looked at the most expensive fabric first. It may have the same properties as the micro velvet.

Just read nebrunner's whole thread, front to back. BIG, I'm impressed. The quality of craftsmanship is amazing. I was hooked by the "Show me your bar" thread where I saw that awesome "Arbor Oak Cinema" sign. I love that look, if only I had the room for it. My best option is a 25x10 room, and 10 is awfully narrow for any sort of seating, unless I butt it against the left wall, which screws the left wall seats as far as sound. When I retire to my summer home, I've got a 13'x25' room in the basement with existing wet bar. That could be a fun project, but I digress.


Don't know if you looked at the option, but Z-Wave is a cheap way to get lights controlled by the 890. I was looking at this, and then my 890 crapped out. Or, I should say, the volume buttons stopped working so I replaced with a 900, not directly compatible with Z-Wave (still thinking I might see if opening the 890 to clean the contacts yields any results).


If you don't mind me asking, what did that sort of counter set you back? I've got a home on the lake with 60s cabinets, high quality enough that I was planning on painting them white and going with the same sort of hardware you have, but there are white laminate counters. I feel that white laminate with white cabinets would be too sterile for the place. My thought on the paintjob is that it can't get any worse than dark 60s cabinets, if it does, the wife was already considering tearing out the kitchen and doing a major renovation, complete with knocking out walls to make it more "open".

JTR7, PM sent

Big, awesome theater! Just finished a marathon read, I don't think I've read a thread before that covered so many topics!!

I look forward to the day when I can buy/build a house with a nice dry basement built in this century

I built a shed last summer after realizing that my garage was never going to be be big enough....

I looked at the Amish built sheds and thought to myself, I can do that waaay cheaper...

Well, not so much! I ended up with basically a small house. Oh well.



Still have some landscaping to do and some other stuff. Since this picture I have run electrical out to the shed for outlet, interior/exterior lights. The one thing I wish was that I did trusses like you did. I think doing a ridge beam and rafters is a bigger pain in the rear...

Very nice shed! something to think about if you store any really valuable tools out there is how easy it would be to break the glass and reach in and open the door. You can solve this with a dead bolt that requires a key on both sides. That way when they break the glass they still need a key to swing the door open.

I really like the design of that sliding front door.

Big - clear out your mailbox....you can't accept anymore PMs......

Fixed there are now 70 open slots for your qustions.

I've been thinking about that, the only thing of value really is my 12" compound miter saw and stand, but better safe than sorry...

The issue is it is hard to find a dead bolt that is keyed on both sides, I think it is against fire code now in a lot of places. I may just do a hasp and padlock like the sliding door.

The sliding door worked out well, it is just the pieces that I cut out of the door opening wrapped with trim and framed with 2x4 on the back. I got the hardware from Tractor supply.
I was thinking about doing a double door like you did but I was concerned it would be a pain in the winter with all the snow piled up.

Not to mention, the material for the door and the hardware was about $170...

$22



http://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-DS.../dp/B002CZPVOG

Ask for a double cylinder lock wherever you shop.

I guess Google can be your friend

Honestly, I really only looked locally at the B&M stores. With all the stuff I buy online you would think I would have looked....

Thanks!

By the way, how is the steam shower going? I enjoy watching others work sometimes