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post #151 of 21607
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Originally Posted by bukiwhitey View Post

Is it possible to wall mount the Focus 140's or 110's?

Thanks,

David

There are no provisions on the rear of the cabinents to accept wall mounts. You will need to drill into them to install any mounts.
post #152 of 21607
I would hate to drill through a speaker. There are clamping speaker brackets that you can buy instead. http://www.bracketsandstands.com/brackets6.htm
post #153 of 21607
DO NOT DRILL, please use the clamping brackets. There are several on the market in which to choose from.

Dynaudio does make an on-wall surround, it's the Contour SR. It performs as well as the Focus 110. It falls short of the 140, but for surround duty it does a great job.
post #154 of 21607
Just chiming in. I am a Dynaudio owner and a big fan of the company.

I have the Contour 1.1(two pairs),Contour 3.3,Contour Center,Contour S3.4S,Contour 5.4S and Contour S-CX.

GREAT speakers in fact bargains at the prices they sell,compared to the competition.

Once you own Dynaudio and a high quality solidn state amp,you keep them and when buying new speakers ...buy more Dynaudio.

Next up...Confidence series.
post #155 of 21607
Has anyone compared dynaudio to focal, jmlab speakers in the same price range?
AudioArchitect? I know you sell both are dynes still your favorite? Can someone explain the difference on how they sound.
post #156 of 21607
Not that ttowntony needs my opinion to back his up, but I have a Sherbourn 5/1550a driving a Contour SC and a pair of Audience 52SEs for my rear speakers and it does a great job. They had been driving a pair of Contour S3.4s also but that was before I got a Bryston 4B SST for them.

By the way, big fan of the Simaudio as well. Really like the Moon product - solid, great sound.

Thanks for the comments on NAD!
post #157 of 21607
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Zues View Post

Has anyone compared dynaudio to focal, jmlab speakers in the same price range?
AudioArchitect? I know you sell both are dynes still your favorite? Can someone explain the difference on how they sound.

I do carry both Dynaudio and Focal. They are both incredible brands, and definitely sound different. Dynaudio has a smooth top-end, open midrange, and super deep bass. They never sound metallic or edgy at all. IMO the best music speaker on the planet.

Focals are the best metal dome tweeters out there. They are much less fatiguing than any other metal dome design I have heard. The top end can sound somewhat clinical to some ears, and they definately do not have the bass of Dynaudio. The midrange is somewhat less open than Dynaudio.

Dynaudio speakers possess a top to bottom coherence that I have not found in any other speaker. You really have to listen to both speakers because they are different flavors, but I will always be a Dynaudio fanatic.
post #158 of 21607
Just got my first pair of Dynaudio speaker, an Audience 52. So far, it has blown everything I have owned previously out of the water. Fantastic speakers it is!
post #159 of 21607
I just took delivery of Confidence C1'S with the Stand 4's and the SCX center channel. I have not even heard the speakers at home yet, but I am very eager to enjoy.

Buddy
post #160 of 21607
im currently enjoying my dyns 52se also....

question for those experienced...is 1.3se a significant upgrade from these? and has anyone tried silverline speakers (sr-17)compared to dyns?
post #161 of 21607
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by lvis View Post

im currently enjoying my dyns 52se also....

question for those experienced...is 1.3se a significant upgrade from these? and has anyone tried silverline speakers (sr-17)compared to dyns?


I would save your money and get a pair of Special 25's.
post #162 of 21607
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Originally Posted by escaflo View Post

Just got my first pair of Dynaudio speaker, an Audience 52. So far, it has blown everything I have owned previously out of the water. Fantastic speakers it is!

The Audience 52 is an awesome bookshelf. Comes extremely close in performance to the Contour S1.4, except for half the price and easier to drive. Congrats!
post #163 of 21607
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Originally Posted by Audio 1 View Post

I just took delivery of Confidence C1'S with the Stand 4's and the SCX center channel. I have not even heard the speakers at home yet, but I am very eager to enjoy.

Buddy

My favorite bookshelf I have ever heard. I doesnt sound like a bookshelf at all. What kind of gear are you running them with?
post #164 of 21607
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Originally Posted by Audio 1 View Post

I just took delivery of Confidence C1'S with the Stand 4's and the SCX center channel. I have not even heard the speakers at home yet, but I am very eager to enjoy.

Buddy

The C1's are fantastic. perfect for a smaller room. I would have bought them but they were too small for my 5000cf room.
post #165 of 21607
Opinions please.

I have a pair of Dynaudio T2.5s and a T2.1 center which are being used in my home theater. My system is currently being powered by a Rotel RSX-1055 receiver and is used for movies only (not music).

The Dynaudios are great for movie sound tracks, but the Rotel seems to be working overtime to keep up with the speakers.

My question is, should I keep the Rotel and add a power amp, or turf the Rotel and go for a pre/pro and power amp? Any suggestions on brand?

Also, I will be upgrading my surrounds: would the Dynaudio contour SRs be a good match?

Thanks,

Flash
post #166 of 21607
Flash,
In a large room your Rotel is way underpowered for those speakers you have bearly enough power to play at reference level. You could do with double or even triple that power. I have the 3.3's and the 2.1's and I'm pumping in 400 watts (4 ohms). Your speakers are not very efficient. I would go with 150w minimum and 200 should be just fine. Replacing both pieces is going to be more costly so it's going to depend on your budget. There are lots of amps in the 200 watt range, Outlaw, ATI, Parasound, Bryston, Classe, Simaudio to name a few. You can get a good deal on a new b stock Parasound A51 from audioadvisor. If you want to go used also check out Aragon and Proceed. A Classe CAV-150 should be real nice.
The SR will be just fine for your surrounds. They are real small and mount right on the wall. I have them in my system and they sound great.
post #167 of 21607
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Originally Posted by Kenrosencpa View Post

Flash,
In a large room your Rotel is way underpowered for those speakers you have bearly enough power to play at reference level. You could do with double or even triple that power. I have the 3.3's and the 2.1's and I'm pumping in 400 watts (4 ohms). Your speakers are not very efficient. I would go with 150w minimum and 200 should be just fine. Replacing both pieces is going to be more costly so it's going to depend on your budget. There are lots of amps in the 200 watt range, Outlaw, ATI, Parasound, Bryston, Classe, Simaudio to name a few. You can get a good deal on a new b stock Parasound A51 from audioadvisor. If you want to go used also check out Aragon and Proceed. A Classe CAV-150 should be real nice.
The SR will be just fine for your surrounds. They are real small and mount right on the wall. I have them in my system and they sound great.

Ken Rosen:

Thanks for the reply. So I guess separates are the way to go, as even the powerhouse receivers wouldn't have enough current to drive the Dynaudios.

Of the amps that you listed, which do you think would be best suited to my speakers? I am curious as to your response, because in my experience, some equipment works betters with certain components than do others ("synergy," if you will).

With respect to the SRs, that is certainly good news, as I understand that the SRs are part of the new Contour line, and I was concerned that they would not be an ideal match for my older speakers.

Flash
post #168 of 21607
You could try keeping your current reciever and add an amp. I ran my 3.3s with a Denon 5700 and it did just fine. I think it put out 170 watts per. My Aragon 8008x3 was better. Now I have moved on to a Simaudio Titan, I did it because I wanted a single amp to handle my five channels and a 12v trigger. The amps I listed are in order of price. All of them will drive your speakers it's just going to come down to price and those small sonic nuances. I'm partial to Classe and Simaudio but they are both expensive. I have my Aragon for sale and it will do nicely for you mains and centers pm me if interested.
post #169 of 21607
Originally posted by AudioArchitect:

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My favorite bookshelf I have ever heard. I doesnt sound like a bookshelf at all. What kind of gear are you running them with?

Actually, this is where my dilemma is right now. Currently I am using a McIntosh Ma6300 ( 100w x 2) integrated amp to power my main speakers with a McIntosh MCD-201( cd player) connected directly to it. I have a Denon AVR-4306 running my center, rear channels and second zone. The left and right pre-outs feed into an input on the MA-6300 and is level matced for video playback.

With my previous more efficient speakers this set-up worked great, however with the more power hungry Dynaudio's it lacks some oomph, although it is not that bad, especially on the 2-ch. playback side.

So my decision is if I should sell the Mcintosh integrated and replace it with a more powerful integrated and get an outboard amp to power the center channel still using the Denon as a pre-pro for video. Or... get a new pre-pro and a larger 5-channel amplifier.
My main concern is not loosing very good 2-channel playback with the C1's which is what I fear from changing the integrated to a pre/pro, but since mine is a dual purpose system I still want kick-butt multi channel performance as well.

Any recommendations and guidance would really be appreciated.

Buddy
post #170 of 21607
I may be able to pick up a used set of 1.3SE's in good shape for approximately $100 less (net) than a new pair of Focus 140's, assuming I can get %15 off MSRP. I've auditioned the Focus and they sound very nice, but I've read the the 1.3SE is a real killer. I'll be driving them with a B&K 200.7 amp (200W/channel) fed by a Rotel 1068 pre/pro.

Sounds very attractive. What do you think?

Radu
post #171 of 21607
I called DynaudioUSA in Chicago and they stated to me the Focus 140 (the larger bookshelf) is an upgrade to the older 1.3.
post #172 of 21607
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by wgerman View Post

I called DynaudioUSA in Chicago and they stated to me the Focus 140 (the larger bookshelf) is an upgrade to the older 1.3.

Most "engineering" companies like Dynaudio have a policy of continuous improvement, so I think it would be rare to find an older model that outperforms the newer stuff.

In the fast paced speaker market, most real speaker companies want to continually offer better value to their customers by setting a new standard for price to performance with each new release.

The Focus 140 is an awesome speaker.
post #173 of 21607
My dealer is letting me borrow a pair of demo Focus 140's this weekend. Pick them up late afternoon on Saturday and return them Tuesday at noon. In their fully treated listening room, they sounded awesome. They were coupled with a REL sub (I don't know which one), but I disconnected it for most of the time. Listened to Cream (love the bass line in Crossroads), Santana, Bonnie Raitt, Mark O'Connor, Mozart Flute Quartet, Barber of Seville. On the second movement of the Mozart Flute quartet there's a passage where the flute plays a melody while the strings pluck the accompaniament. The strings sounded like they were in the room.

The weekend will tell how they sound in the real world of my living room.

Anyone know how the Focus Center 200 sounds? The dealer didn't have one. If I pick up the Focus 140's I'd be looking for a new center, as well. Possibly the 110's for the rear, too. I auditioned the 110's for the fronts but found them a bit thin. Maybe I can get a package discount.
post #174 of 21607
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Maybe I can get a package discount.

It's been known to happen.

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Anyone know how the Focus Center 200 sounds?

It's a very good center speaker and will mate well of course with the entire Focus series. All the Dynaudio center speakers perform great for HT.

Every customer I've sold the Focus too absolutely loves them!
post #175 of 21607
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Originally Posted by wgerman View Post

I called DynaudioUSA in Chicago and they stated to me the Focus 140 (the larger bookshelf) is an upgrade to the older 1.3.

To be clear there are different 1.3 speakers.
post #176 of 21607
Hello All,

I recently picked up the Audience 42's in the Cherry veneer and absolutely love these speakers. The midrange and highs are absolutely breathtaking. The only issue I have had, is the room I have them in is 11' x 11' x 8' and it causes all kinds of issues with the bass. I have them almost 2' from the rear wall and for the most part away from the right corner. Can't pull them any further out due to the size of the room. Not sure if the bass issues are truly solvable but thought I would look for input.

I have been using the plugs to help tame some of these issues. But seem to lose a fair bit of extension. Does anyone know how the plugs actually affect the frequency response. How much do the plugs affect the extension ?

I also have them on 20'' stands which is a bit low in height. Will be upgrading to the matching Dynaudio stands in the near future.

I'm currently running these speakers with a NAD C352 integrated amp and C521BEE cd player. Looking to upgrade the amp though. Anyone have thoughts on amps that work wonders with the 42's thats less than a 1000 dollars. I have been thinking about the C272 since NAD seems to mate well with Dynaudio but the Parasound Classic line looks nice as well.

Audio Architect I would love to hear your thoughts on the matter since your a Dynaudio dealer.

Thanks for any input.
post #177 of 21607
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Originally Posted by NADz View Post

Hello All,
I recently picked up the Audience 42's in the Cherry veneer and absolutely love these speakers. The midrange and highs are absolutely breathtaking. The only issue I have had, is the room I have them in is 11' x 11' x 8' and it causes all kinds of issues with the bass. I have them almost 2' from the rear wall and for the most part away from the right corner. Can't pull them any further out due to the size of the room. Not sure if the bass issues are truly solvable but thought I would look for input.

I have been using the plugs to help tame some of these issues. But seem to lose a fair bit of extension. Does anyone know how the plugs actually affect the frequency response. How much do the plugs affect the extension ? ...

Here's what it says in the manual that came with my speakers:
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Foam plugs are designed to fit in the reflex ports at the front of the cabinets, and modify the bass response of the system. When used in a free standing situation, fitting of the plug will result in a slight tightening of the bottom end of the speaker's response, coupled with a slight reduction in absolute SPL that may safely be generated by the monitor. This effect may be desirableplease experiment and fit to personal taste. When the monitor is mounted just in front of a wall, or in a cavity or corner, the plug should be fitted to compensate for the increase in bass caused by reflected low frequencies in these situations.

Stereophile has some graphs that show the effect of the foam plug. Check out figure 5 of their measurement of the B&W 705 response (halfway down the page). The plot in red is the one with the foam plugs. I observed something similar for my speakers. So what you're losing is weight, and not necessarily extension. In fact, some sealed speakers have very good low-frequency extension because the roll-off is more gradual. Blocking the ports makes the monitor behave just a little bit more like a sealed box.

In any case, you should be fine without the plugs if you keep the speakers away from the walls and corners. The big problem is your room. If it doesn't have to be pretty, add some bass traps at least in the corners, and treat the first reflection points. You'll get better sound from your monitors.

My room wreaked havoc on music with lots of walking bass, like Jaco Pastorius. Some some notes sounded louder and tubbier than the others. In particular, 125 Hz, which is near the B and C one octave below middle C. Before I added several bass traps, these were 9-12 dB louder than the surrounding notes. I'm guessing that your room has a similar condition. If room treatments are out of the question, playing around with speaker placement and the foam plugs might lessen the problem at your listening position. Good luck.
post #178 of 21607
I probably should have mentioned that my room is treated with an Auralex roominators kit at the first refelctions points along with the front and back wall. I also have 4 of the Auralex corner traps. One sits on the floor in the corner directly behind the right speaker which is closest to the corner. The mids and highs improved quite a bit. But the bass is still the issue.

Anyone have any suggestions on effective bass traps that are maybe a 100 to 200 dolllars. Maybe 300. Not sure if this possible. Most of the stuff I have seen is quite expensive.
post #179 of 21607
Auralex makes good stuff, but if the bass traps are the LENRDs, then they aren't very effective. Much better are panels made up of Owens-Corning 703 or 705 rigid fiberglass. Or rock wool. It really did make a difference in my case. Please visit Ethan Winer's site for more useful information including construction plans for DIY traps:

http://www.realtraps.com/facts.htm

For balance, here are other manufacturer's pages:

http://www.readytraps.com/
http://www.gikacoustics.com/
post #180 of 21607
In the earlier part of the thread I posted my setup of NAD M15, Sunfire 200 seven, and Focus 220, 200c, and 140.

Yesterday we went to see Casino Royale near Worcester where my MIL lives.

The movie was great, but the sound system was complete crap, and it is hard for me to understand how the theater's system sounds worst than my modest 15K system.

The center channel was completely muddled and even my wife, who lived and worked in the U.K., had problem understanding some of the Brotish dialog. Also, the higher frequency was also way over emphasized which could be due to improper rom treatment, it was quite fatigueing.

In short, I never thought the movie theater sound would be that bad. Or perhaps it's because that I am spoiled by Dynaudio's.
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