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post #15691 of 19346
4/15/12 at 9:20pm
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Originally Posted by Dynero View Post

Be careful, the Naim may simply have a more pronounced mid bass warmth than the 372

explain more please.

what I have noticed is that the bass is there but its pretty balanced overall, subtle even, but when called on, there is slam unlike a lot of other IAs that I have auditioned,
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post #15692 of 19346
4/15/12 at 9:21pm
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I have just upgraded my audioquest CV8 speaker cable to XLO Signature 3 (8feet) and the difference is like night and day! My system is Plinius anniversary set and Dynaudio Focus 360 with all XLO
signature 3 power cables and interconnects. XLO is a bit pricey but you can surely hear the difference!

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I second the canare 4s11 cable. I got my set from ram electronics terminated with wbt locking bananas. The 4s11 is a well engineered cable and the wbt locking bananas offer a high quality low impedance connection. I used this set with my C1's.

I had to sell my C1's and have been sad ever since. The best monitor I ever owned.

The kimber stuff is also nicely made.

-jet

hey guys, welcome to the site, good looking gear you guys seem to have.
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post #15693 of 19346
4/15/12 at 9:29pm
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Originally Posted by EnCar View Post

Any thoughts on the NAD 390DD for a pair of Focus 220mk2s? (currently driven by a Rotel Rx1052) Would this be a step up or should I just get the Nait XS and not think about it? It sounds really good as is, but I keep wonder what (if anything) upgrading the amp would give me?

The 3900DD is based on the technology developed for the NAD M2 and I would expect it is very good, it cannot be compared to the C372 and other analog NAD amps (I own a C372). It is a completely different technology.

I can tell you that the M2 is vastly superior to the C372 although the C372 is surprisingly good just not in the league of the direct digital technology. I would try to get the 390DD on evaluation (make sure to give it ample time to breakin) My M2 took upwards of 300 hours and was not that attractive during some of those hours.
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post #15694 of 19346
4/16/12 at 4:45am
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Originally Posted by adb3da View Post

Hello all - I am the proud new (to me) owner of a pair of Contour S3.4 and a Sub 500. I am the third owner of the speakers. The Sub 500 has an issue that I was aware of prior to the purchase. It was flat out dead. Tonight I replaced the fuse with the appropriate 4a 250v slow blow fuse. When I powered up the unit I got a clicking/scratching sound and some white smoke. Not a good sign, I know. Anyway, I have seen a few people on here mention issues with the Sub 500. Warranty may not apply for me, as I don't have the sales receipt. Not certain of the date of purchase. Anyway, just curious if anyone has had similar issue and have been able to resolve. I most likely need to get in touch with the local dealer. Thanks in advance!

My Sub500 went dead 3 times (bought it when it first came out). Each time the dealer replaced the amp pack, but it was under warranty (it has 5 years). It's been fine ever since, which is good since it's long out of warranty now.
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post #15695 of 19346
4/16/12 at 5:14am
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post


My Sub500 went dead 3 times (bought it when it first came out). Each time the dealer replaced the amp pack, but it was under warranty (it has 5 years). It's been fine ever since, which is good since it's long out of warranty now.

Thanks! When you say amp pack, what specifically are you talking about? The entire amp?
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post #15696 of 19346
4/16/12 at 5:17am
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Originally Posted by adb3da View Post

Thanks! When you say amp pack, what specifically are you talking about? The entire amp?

I assumed it was the entire amp module. I dropped it off at the dealer and picked it up again. I didn't see what exactly was done to it.
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post #15697 of 19346
4/16/12 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by adb3da View Post

Hello all - I am the proud new (to me) owner of a pair of Contour S3.4 and a Sub 500. I am the third owner of the speakers. The Sub 500 has an issue that I was aware of prior to the purchase. It was flat out dead. Tonight I replaced the fuse with the appropriate 4a 250v slow blow fuse. When I powered up the unit I got a clicking/scratching sound and some white smoke. Not a good sign, I know. Anyway, I have seen a few people on here mention issues with the Sub 500. Warranty may not apply for me, as I don't have the sales receipt. Not certain of the date of purchase. Anyway, just curious if anyone has had similar issue and have been able to resolve. I most likely need to get in touch with the local dealer. Thanks in advance!

What typically occurs is that the uneven voltage that comes out of our walls plays havoc on the capacitors in the amp module of the 500, you can call our North American office for a resolution to your issue.
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post #15698 of 19346
4/16/12 at 7:24am
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Originally Posted by dynlunatic View Post

What typically occurs is that the uneven voltage that comes out of our walls plays havoc on the capacitors in the amp module of the 500, you can call our North American office for a resolution to your issue.

Is that why mine died 3 times a few years ago?
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post #15699 of 19346
4/16/12 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by Goodeyeclosed72 View Post

Which tube amp do you have in mind? A different brand?

I don't know at this point. I'm a ways off from getting tube equipment for 2 channel. I'll think it over and decide when the time comes. I've owned a Cary 120s tube amp and Octave V70 (not the se version).
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post #15700 of 19346
4/16/12 at 10:42am
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

explain more please.

what I have noticed is that the bass is there but its pretty balanced overall, subtle even, but when called on, there is slam unlike a lot of other IAs that I have auditioned,

Naim amps have a warm, rich sound and part of that sonic profile is a mid bass with a little more oomph than what is strictly neutral. That also helps in it's legendary PRAt. The NAD on the other hand could be ( I don't know for sure mind you ) more neutral and thus the bass response more "correct".

I just threw out this warning because at times even experienced listeners can be fooled into thinking a punchy mid bass ( say in the 80 hz region ) is "more" bass. I didn't mean you but those other people in the forums who claimed the Naim 50 watts outperformed a NAD 372's 170 watts in the bass region.
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post #15701 of 19346
4/16/12 at 10:52am
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Originally Posted by Dynero View Post

Naim amps have a warm, rich sound and part of that sonic profile is a mid bass with a little more oomph than what is strictly neutral. That also helps in it's legendary PRAt. The NAD on the other hand could be ( I don't know for sure mind you ) more neutral and thus the bass response more "correct".

I just threw out this warning because at times even experienced listeners can be fooled into thinking a punchy mid bass ( say in the 80 hz region ) is "more" bass. I didn't mean you but those other people in the forums who claimed the Naim 50 watts outperformed a NAD 372's 170 watts in the bass region.

gotcha, thanks.
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post #15702 of 19346
4/16/12 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by Dynero View Post

Naim amps have a warm, rich sound and part of that sonic profile is a mid bass with a little more oomph than what is strictly neutral. That also helps in it's legendary PRAt. The NAD on the other hand could be ( I don't know for sure mind you ) more neutral and thus the bass response more "correct".

I just threw out this warning because at times even experienced listeners can be fooled into thinking a punchy mid bass ( say in the 80 hz region ) is "more" bass. I didn't mean you but those other people in the forums who claimed the Naim 50 watts outperformed a NAD 372's 170 watts in the bass region.

One of the things I notice a lot recently about my Naim and Contour S1.4s is that I play my system at lower volume than I did with other systems. It sounds so good I just don't feel the need to play it louder. Part of it is that the system is so low distortion and low noise it doesn't sound loud, but part is that I really don't need to turn it up to get a great musical experience.
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post #15703 of 19346
4/17/12 at 1:18am
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

One of the things I notice a lot recently about my Naim and Contour S1.4s is that I play my system at lower volume than I did with other systems. It sounds so good I just don't feel the need to play it louder. Part of it is that the system is so low distortion and low noise it doesn't sound loud, but part is that I really don't need to turn it up to get a great musical experience.

Exactly. Previously when I used NAD equipment with my S1.4, I noticed I was always cranking it up. Now with Electrocompaniet integrated and Ayon CD player I don't feel the need any more.
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post #15704 of 19346
4/17/12 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

One of the things I notice a lot recently about my Naim and Contour S1.4s is that I play my system at lower volume than I did with other systems. It sounds so good I just don't feel the need to play it louder. Part of it is that the system is so low distortion and low noise it doesn't sound loud, but part is that I really don't need to turn it up to get a great musical experience.

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Originally Posted by kafo View Post

Exactly. Previously when I used NAD equipment with my S1.4, I noticed I was always cranking it up. Now with Electrocompaniet integrated and Ayon CD player I don't feel the need any more.

Oh just wait till you demo the C1 MKII's. To me that is their greatest strength.
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post #15705 of 19346
4/17/12 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by OctaDyn_Dude View Post

Oh just wait till you demo the C1 MKII's. To me that is their greatest strength.

Oh, I'm staying away from those, lest I find my place in the doghouse a permanent one.
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post #15706 of 19346
4/17/12 at 7:38pm
Wanted to see if anyone might be able to give me some input on the new Focus Series? Anyone that has heard it, what did you like? I have the Arcam AVR 600 and I am thinking of going with the new Focus Series, how do you think this will match? Thanks for the info. John
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post #15707 of 19346
4/17/12 at 7:51pm
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Originally Posted by brickyardz View Post

Wanted to see if anyone might be able to give me some input on the new Focus Series? Anyone that has heard it, what did you like? I have the Arcam AVR 600 and I am thinking of going with the new Focus Series, how do you think this will match? Thanks for the info. John

I have heard the new Focus 260s and 160s. The 260s were on a Musical Fidelity M3i, and I liked them a lot. The sound is slightly more tipped up compared to the Excites, but the bass is lively and deep as typical Dyns are known for. I felt the 260s bass was a little quicker then older 220 MKIs, plus tighter and more well focused. I really felt like the 260s performance in the mids and highs was great. More detailed and a nice soundstage. It really approaches the level of the contours.

The 160s had great bass as well, and just as good with the mids and highs. The dealer really had them setup poorly, so they werent able to show off what they could really do, IMO. However with the 260s Im sure the 160s would do just as much.

Id love to upgrade to the Focus one day. I think I finally could, now that I have the right setup in place.

Your AVR 600 will do just fine with the Focus speakers. A buddy of mine used to use the AVR 600 with Sapphires and a Contour SCX center.
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post #15708 of 19346
4/18/12 at 10:54am
Did a little more work on the home theater setup. I'm listening to cd's from my bdp to my naim dac directly to my Integra receiver. I hooked up my Integra amp also. I'm awaiting a cable to arrive to hook up my music server. I also need to clean up the wire mess I currently have. I'm liking what I hear for now.




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post #15709 of 19346
4/18/12 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by seanmf View Post

Did a little more work on the home theater setup. I'm listening to cd's from my bdp to my naim dac directly to my Integra receiver. I hooked up my Integra amp also. I'm awaiting a cable to arrive to hook up my music server. I also need to clean up the wire mess I currently have. I'm liking what I hear for now.

Everything looks awesome man. I noticed that you got rid of the Naim amp but held on to the Dac. In your opinion has the Dac been a strong performer and do you plan to keep it?
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post #15710 of 19346
4/18/12 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by nick05 View Post

Everything looks awesome man. I noticed that you got rid of the Naim amp but held on to the Dac. In your opinion has the Dac been a strong performer and do you plan to keep it?

I'm keeping the dac. Replacing that has never crossed my mind and I'm happy with how it performs. My ht addition plans include upgrading the center, an integrated tube amp or tube pre/tube amp, some real acoustic panels, and a sub or 2.
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post #15711 of 19346
4/19/12 at 7:46pm
Any idea where can i listen to the Focus line in the Denver area ? I'm considering buying a pair and would be nice to listen to them before


i did listen to the Totem Forest , how similar the Focus and Totem (forest) sound is ?


thanks
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post #15712 of 19346
4/19/12 at 10:10pm
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Originally Posted by danny_isr View Post

Any idea where can i listen to the Focus line in the Denver area ? I'm considering buying a pair and would be nice to listen to them before


i did listen to the Totem Forest , how similar the Focus and Totem (forest) sound is ?


thanks

Cherry Creek Audio
156 Steele St.
Denver, CO 80206
Phone: (303) 758-4434
www.cherrycreekaudio.com

I have heard the Totem Sttafs and Arros, but not the Forests.
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post #15713 of 19346
4/19/12 at 10:19pm
Yes I already called that store , I think they have the contour and excite but no Focus.

Did you find those Totems anything like Dynaudio? Specially the tweeter is what I'm interested to know.

Thanks !
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post #15714 of 19346
4/19/12 at 10:44pm
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Originally Posted by danny_isr View Post

Yes I already called that store , I think they have the contour and excite but no Focus.

Did you find those Totems anything like Dynaudio? Specially the tweeter is what I'm interested to know.

Thanks !

The Sttafs and the X16s presented the music in different ways. The Sttafs seemed warmer a slightly more forward, the Excites were more neutral and maybe slightly more laidback. As if, in the concert hall the Excites were 2 rows back from neutral/halfway, and the Sttafs 2 rows from center. Both revealed good levels of detail, with maybe a slight edge to the Excites tweeter in that regards, bass levels were better with the X16s, the Sttafs have some kick tho too. I felt they were pretty much the same in terms of building a soundstage and laying it out for the listener, but the X16s seemed bigger sounding, Im sure woofer size and output had something to do with that, plus the X16s are taller on stands then the Sttafs. The first time I auditioned both speakers I was more into the Sttafs, but after 2 more auditions the X16s were my favorites. I felt the Sttafs offered more of their sound on the music then the Excites, and because I would be using them for HT as well, I felt the Excites were better suited to me.

The Focus line is a little more tipped up vs the Excites in the lower trebble and upper mids, and the bass hits heavier. I guess youd say the Excites are more linear/balanced, the Focus more dynamic.

Im sure that Mick here could in some way help setup a demo of the Focus line at that dealer. Dynaudio seems pretty accomidating.
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post #15715 of 19346
4/20/12 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

The Sttafs and the X16s presented the music in different ways. The Sttafs seemed warmer a slightly more forward, the Excites were more neutral and maybe slightly more laidback. As if, in the concert hall the Excites were 2 rows back from neutral/halfway, and the Sttafs 2 rows from center. Both revealed good levels of detail, with maybe a slight edge to the Excites tweeter in that regards, bass levels were better with the X16s, the Sttafs have some kick tho too. I felt they were pretty much the same in terms of building a soundstage and laying it out for the listener, but the X16s seemed bigger sounding, Im sure woofer size and output had something to do with that, plus the X16s are taller on stands then the Sttafs. The first time I auditioned both speakers I was more into the Sttafs, but after 2 more auditions the X16s were my favorites. I felt the Sttafs offered more of their sound on the music then the Excites, and because I would be using them for HT as well, I felt the Excites were better suited to me.

The Focus line is a little more tipped up vs the Excites in the lower trebble and upper mids, and the bass hits heavier. I guess youd say the Excites are more linear/balanced, the Focus more dynamic.

Im sure that Mick here could in some way help setup a demo of the Focus line at that dealer. Dynaudio seems pretty accomidating.

The new Focus is very close to the Contour in performance, better balanced, more detailed, more transparent and more resolving than the Excite line, in fact the all new Focus is a considerable upgrade over the old Focus and the Neodymium based drivers are a tremedous advancement for the price point. The Focus does require a better set of electronics then the Excite, a good receiver would be fine for Excite but not for Focus as the Focus is definitely more revealing of everything upstream.
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post #15716 of 19346
4/20/12 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by danny_isr View Post

Yes I already called that store , I think they have the contour and excite but no Focus.

Did you find those Totems anything like Dynaudio? Specially the tweeter is what I'm interested to know.

Thanks !

Within the next few weeks we will have the new Focus products at Blu Note A/V on Colorado Avenue.
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post #15717 of 19346
4/20/12 at 9:31am
http://www.whathifi.com/review/dynaudio-xeo-3

Killer review!
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post #15718 of 19346
4/20/12 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by rob80b View Post

I'm still watching movies old school without an AV receiver; basically I'm running the analogue outputs from my Blu-ray player to two stereo set-ups: LR Fronts to my Bryston BP25P/ Velodyne SMS-1 & Velodyne SPL1500R/ Bryston 4BSST powering the Special 25s; LR Rears to a Bryston BR60 integrated powering a pair of Dynaudio Contour 1.3MKIIs, works for me but I always watch movies at the same volume otherwise it would be a real pain to adjust the levels each time
Having said that my youngest brother is moving up from his Integra 80.1 Pre/Pro http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1188234 to the DHC-80.3, so I may have first dibs on it if I wish; might give it a whirl and see these aging ears notice the difference when listening to music, mind you I'll still need the Bryston BP25P for vinyl.

Hi Guys

Considering stepping a little deeper in HT and may take up the offer on my bros Integra 80.1 Pre/Pro, I will retain my Contour 1.3MKs as the rears but add a 3 channel amp to accommodate a center channel, aside from sourcing a single Special 25 to accommodate the fronts any other recommendations.
Mick may want to chime in.



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post #15719 of 19346
4/20/12 at 9:57am
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Originally Posted by rob80b View Post

Hi Guys

Considering stepping a little deeper in HT and may take up the offer on my bros Integra 80.1 Pre/Pro, I will retain my Contour 1.3MKs as the rears but add a 3 channel amp to accommodate a center channel, aside from sourcing a single Special 25 to accommodate the fronts any other recommendations.
Mick may want to chime in.



Rear wall

Finding a single Special 25 will be like finding a needle in the haystack, go with a Contour SCX in regular Maple or Black Ash.
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post #15720 of 19346
4/20/12 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by dynlunatic View Post

Finding a single Special 25 will be like finding a needle in the haystack, go with a Contour SCX in regular Maple or Black Ash.

Thanks Mick

I see that the Contour SCX and the Confidence Center both have the Esotar tweeter although the Contour only employs just one so that should be fine.
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