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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

ugh, hence my postings of the setup playing various music. LOL.

Speaking of setup and tunes....I have -- at the moment -- a Clearaudio Ovation turntable with a Clearaudio Talisman v2 cartridge jamming on some Oscar Peterson 45 RPM records. My Naim amp is only too happy to deliver the goods to my Contour S3.4s. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post

Very nice callas! Post more!

thanks Jax, My Android phone wont pick up the bass, but you get some mids and highs.

Heres a little DIre Straits BIA - Latest Trick

And Norah Jones - Turn Me On
John Mayer
post #16713 of 19359
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

Speaking of setup and tunes....I have -- at the moment -- a Clearaudio Ovation turntable with a Clearaudio Talisman v2 cartridge jamming on some Oscar Peterson 45 RPM records. My Naim amp is only too happy to deliver the goods to my Contour S3.4s. smile.gif

Nice to hear you finally got the TT in and setup. Congrats. Is it everything you thought it would be?
post #16714 of 19359
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

Nice to hear you finally got the TT in and setup. Congrats. Is it everything you thought it would be?
Actually, it's not mine to keep. mad.gif My turntable is still backordered. My dealer gave me this one to play with until after the weekend.

It sounds pretty fantastic through. My rig will have the same cartridge, but a step down on the turntable (Performance DC, not the Ovation). This one is $5.5K retail, plus cartridge (which is $1750).
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Callas, I love that child-proof audio system. Seriously, thanks for sharing.
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

Actually, it's not mine to keep. mad.gif My turntable is still backordered. My dealer gave me this one to play with until after the weekend.
It sounds pretty fantastic through. My rig will have the same cartridge, but a step down on the turntable (Performance DC, not the Ovation). This one is $5.5K retail, plus cartridge (which is $1750).

Dang... that a pricey TT. The best TTs I have heard were a Luxman and the T+A TT. I liked the Luxman a little more. Ive heard the P3, a Well Tempered, and something else at my Dyn dealer, but the Luxman was the best so far, it had a Lyra Delos cart I think..... on a pair of C2s and Boulder.. very nice setup.

Hey at least you get to play with something in the meantime.


EDIT, Come to think of it, the Luxman is about the same price.
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Originally Posted by catmonv View Post

Callas, I love that child-proof audio system. Seriously, thanks for sharing.

I dont usually post pics because I hate to show off that dumb playpen, but my TT originally cost me $350, and after replacing 2 cartridges($185 for the Sumiko Pearl, and then just the stylus replacement) and 1 tonearm(which my Dyn dealer gave me AT COST, cause he felt bad for me, $50, its actually the Expression II tone arm from what Sumiko said.), I had to move it down a shelf and move the center channel up.

Thanks my pleasure, its nice not to talk in circles about an amps tone.
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

I dont usually post pics because I hate to show off that dumb playpen, but my TT originally cost me $350, and after replacing 2 cartridges($185 for the Sumiko Pearl, and then just the stylus replacement) and 1 tonearm(which my Dyn dealer gave me AT COST, cause he felt bad for me, $50, its actually the Expression II tone arm from what Sumiko said.), I had to move it down a shelf and move the center channel up.
Thanks my pleasure, its nice not to talk in circles about an amps tone.

No offense, but I'd rather talk about an "amp's tone" than some of these other topics. You say "amp's tone", like it's foreign to a discussion about hi-fi? Last I checked...an amp's tone is pretty damn important.

Look, the rhetoric might have been dialed-up a little high for a few posts there; but everyone calmed down, and I think we could have had an interesting conversation about how the "two sides" approach these things. Honestly; if we can't talk about amps in the Dyn thread...or even "debate" amps, without a threat to go to the mods...then why aren't turntables, cartridges, tubes...and everything else besides Dyns OT?

FWIW...beaveav sent me a PM, and I think it's a discussion we could have learned from. He didn't change my mind; in fact if anything, I had a lot of questions about his methods and conclusions (like I thought I would). However, he's probably right; some people almost seem "scared" to hear the other side out.

CD
Edited by CDLehner - 8/9/12 at 5:26pm
post #16719 of 19359
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

Dang... that a pricey TT. The best TTs I have heard were a Luxman and the T+A TT. I liked the Luxman a little more. Ive heard the P3, a Well Tempered, and something else at my Dyn dealer, but the Luxman was the best so far, it had a Lyra Delos cart I think..... on a pair of C2s and Boulder.. very nice setup.
Hey at least you get to play with something in the meantime.
EDIT, Come to think of it, the Luxman is about the same price.

The T+A isn't cheap either. I have a Rega RP3/TTPSU and Dynavector 20x2H now, which I'm trading in for the Clearaudio rig.

After I get the TT delivered, etc. I am getting serious about a set of Esotar2 for my Contours.
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

Thanks my pleasure, its nice not to talk in circles about an amps tone.

The posting of your pics came at an opportune time. Thanks for breaking the heated amp debate. tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by catmonv View Post

The posting of your pics came at an opportune time. Thanks for breaking the heated amp debate. tongue.gif

Agreed. We should now discuss the merits of high end cables smile.gif
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

However, he's probably right; some people almost seem "scared" to hear the other side out.
CD

I used to be scared, then I realized that all amps are equal, some are just more equal than others. wink.gif
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Run, don't walk:



CD, this one should be right up your alley. Try "Nocturnal" or "Transformer". Sumptious....
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Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post

Run, don't walk:

CD, this one should be right up your alley. Try "Nocturnal" or "Transformer". Sumptious....

Why; does she sound like PJ, or Fiona...or Lucinda (Williams), or Regina (Spektor). Or Erika (Wennerstrom, of Heartless Bastards), or Elizabeth (Fraser, of Cocteau Twins); the gals I'm diggin' on these days? wink.gif

I'll give it a spin Jax-son.

EDIT- Wow; a review of this record mentions comparisons to Pixies, PJ Harvey, The White Stripes, and David Bowie! Holy shite; that'll be something to live up to. Interesting. BTW, I see what you're trying to do; knock me off this amp crusade with music. Very clever. tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Or Erika (Wennerstrom, of Heartless Bastards),

On the same page there. I recently picked up their new Arrow album. Excellent.
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I'm listening to 16th-century Elizabethan madrigals (John Dowland Second Booke of Songs, 1600). Excellent! smile.gif

I just love dead composer music.
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

No offense, but I'd rather talk about an "amp's tone" than some of these other topics. You say "amp's tone", like it's foreign to a discussion about hi-fi? Last I checked...an amp's tone is pretty damn important.
Look, the rhetoric might have been dialed-up a little high for a few posts there; but everyone calmed down, and I think we could have had an interesting conversation about how the "two sides" approach these things. Honestly; if we can't talk about amps in the Dyn thread...or even "debate" amps, without a threat to go to the mods...then why aren't turntables, cartridges, tubes...and everything else besides Dyns OT?
FWIW...beaveav sent me a PM, and I think it's a discussion we could have learned from. He didn't change my mind; in fact if anything, I had a lot of questions about his methods and conclusions (like I thought I would). However, he's probably right; some people almost seem "scared" to hear the other side out.
CD

Most Dyn owners talk about the neutrality of these speakers. Now you want an amp to change that neutral sound. eek.gif
post #16728 of 19359
Not quite sure how to ask this question, here goes. Using front C2s and rear C1s with 2 sub 600 for home theater, how close to the maximum volume of the speakers must they play to match the presentation of a decent movie theater?
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Originally Posted by Orbitron View Post

Not quite sure how to ask this question, here goes. Using front C2s and rear C1s with 2 sub 600 for home theater, how close to the maximum volume of the speakers must they play to match the presentation of a decent movie theater?

Way too many variables to answer that question (room size, distance from speakers,etc.).

However, the short answer is "you can't". Not with Dyn speakers. Theaters use very sensitive speakers for a reason....dynamics. You can turn your volume up (dialogue at 85dbs), but you won't be able to get the dynamic swings required due to Dyns low sensitivity.
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

No offense, but I'd rather talk about an "amp's tone" than some of these other topics. You say "amp's tone", like it's foreign to a discussion about hi-fi? Last I checked...an amp's tone is pretty damn important.
Look, the rhetoric might have been dialed-up a little high for a few posts there; but everyone calmed down, and I think we could have had an interesting conversation about how the "two sides" approach these things. Honestly; if we can't talk about amps in the Dyn thread...or even "debate" amps, without a threat to go to the mods...then why aren't turntables, cartridges, tubes...and everything else besides Dyns OT?
FWIW...beaveav sent me a PM, and I think it's a discussion we could have learned from. He didn't change my mind; in fact if anything, I had a lot of questions about his methods and conclusions (like I thought I would). However, he's probably right; some people almost seem "scared" to hear the other side out.
CD

I dont think any topic is off topic, however everyone was talking in circles. It didnt seem like a progressive conversation. Sorry but that gets boring quickly.

I'll say that I dont have enough experience with power amps to tell you if they contribute or not contribute to the TONE of my setup. I would love to actually hear someone say, my X amp moved my setup a little more to the bright side, the Y amp was recessed, and the Z amp was my perfect amp because it did a, b, c, that they others didnt do. One person talked about their Bryston vs another amp, no one on either side otherwise sited any differences or lack there of. I can say that my Naim power amp section had a better grip on my speakers drivers and improved the dynamics over the Integra and the Sony previously, even the wife could tell that; and the naim vs the integra, there are sonic differences between the pre-amps. I could tell you that when switching between the integras amps and using the Naim as a power amp, there is a difference in the sound and that is what the wife noticed also.

However if you guys all want to send me your amps, Ill connect it to my Integra and I'll be the DBT tester for the wife, she'll give an unbiased opinion cause she thinks we all put to much into this hobby. Plus I can test all your expensive gear. wink.gif
post #16731 of 19359
Great deal on some great speakers. Excite X32s. No affiliation...

Clicky
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Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post

Great deal on some great speakers. Excite X32s. No affiliation...
Clicky

How do you make an offer? I can't seem to reply or anything after registering.
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Maybe you need two approved posts?
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The Trading Post is for individual members to buy and sell. Member must have two approved posts in the general circles to be able to list an item for sale. The Trading Post is intended for one of, used, personal items that you wish to sell.
post #16734 of 19359
Well, I'm putting my money where my mouth is; and banking on the notion that SS amps can and do sound different. I just picked-up a BAT SS amp to try. biggrin.gif

For the record... nothing at all wrong with my sweet, old C-J (also SS, btw; didn't want to give the impression by describing it as sweet and old, it was a famed tube model...lol); sometimes you get tired of Lobster, and you want to try a Steak.

Anyone here, ever put BAT power to Dyn drivers and have some impressions they want to share?
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Originally Posted by jamhead View Post

Way too many variables to answer that question (room size, distance from speakers,etc.).
However, the short answer is "you can't". Not with Dyn speakers. Theaters use very sensitive speakers for a reason....dynamics. You can turn your volume up (dialogue at 85dbs), but you won't be able to get the dynamic swings required due to Dyns low sensitivity.

I'm a major Dyne fan but I agree, you can't get the same sound as a movie theatre's home and dsp based system, not to mention the unique acoustics of a large carpeted space and hundreds of flesh bags in the middle of the room. Dynes are great but I don't think they're made for this application.

That said, Dyne home theatre brings it's own sets of strengths that a movie theatre can't touch, clarity, truth of timbre, amazingly natural dialogue, seamless frequency response. etc.
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Btw, how do you post a video on youtube without them blocking it in 245 countries because of the song playing in the video?

I uploaded a video of my speakers playing a Lynyrd Skynyrd song but youtube 5 minutes after uploading it told me the video was blocked in 245 countries because of the song plaing. Lol
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Originally Posted by jamhead View Post

Way too many variables to answer that question (room size, distance from speakers,etc.).
However, the short answer is "you can't". Not with Dyn speakers. Theaters use very sensitive speakers for a reason....dynamics. You can turn your volume up (dialogue at 85dbs), but you won't be able to get the dynamic swings required due to Dyns low sensitivity.

Jamhead,
You are partially correct in that the reason why theaters use very sensitive horn loaded speakers is so that they can drive them with cool running class D amplifiers which are notorious for not have any bal*s. Yes, Dynaudio speakers(except Excite) are a nominal 4 ohm load and lower sensitivity however given an amplifier with real current delivery Dynaudio speakers will get up and boogie, in fact they truly come to life given the right amplifier. Three inch voice coils(except Excite) on your 6.5 inch woofers will give you some serious output you just have to be willing to give them the right amplifier. Orbitron will be using the "right" kind of amplifier to give him the control and output he is looking for in his room, especially combined with two Sub 600's.
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Originally Posted by dynlunatic View Post

Jamhead,
You are partially correct in that the reason why theaters use very sensitive horn loaded speakers is so that they can drive them with cool running class D amplifiers which are notorious for not have any bal*s. Yes, Dynaudio speakers(except Excite) are a nominal 4 ohm load and lower sensitivity however given an amplifier with real current delivery Dynaudio speakers will get up and boogie, in fact they truly come to life given the right amplifier. Three inch voice coils(except Excite) on your 6.5 inch woofers will give you some serious output you just have to be willing to give them the right amplifier. Orbitron will be using the "right" kind of amplifier to give him the control and output he is looking for in his room, especially combined with two Sub 600's.

There's the man...weighing in. I think Mick gets an iAlert, anytime someone says something negative about Dyns! wink.gif
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HE gets paid to say those things. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

There's the man...weighing in. I think Mick gets an iAlert, anytime someone says something negative about Dyns! wink.gif

I didn't think Jamhead was saying anything negative about Dynaudio, I know he loves the products. I just like to put my two sense in..........I have been traveling more than nomal lately but one of my spies told me I needed to chime in;). Just joking, today was the first day in a week that I have had the time post.
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