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post #18211 of 21631
BTW, they did sound good for about a day when I first fired up, so hopefully they won't go up and down again as I continue to break-in.
post #18212 of 21631
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Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post

Hi,
OctaDyn is right. It seems to be the break-in issue with my C1 Sigs. After 40 hours of continuous playing, it's sounding pretty good right now. I guess after a month and half of being "cold", it needs to "re-break-in" again. No idea why and I'm very puzzled by this (maybe crossover needs to re-break-in?) I dismissed the break-in as issue initially but I went ahead and did it anyway and glad that I did. So, it's not the ICs, my amp nor the source. lol Will continue to break-in some more.
Great news Khin biggrin.gif
Keep playing them because they should only get better during the next 150 - 200 hrs. Although the improvements will be very minor compared to what you just heard. Anyhow when the new Ic's arrive be sure to try them out. My Fusion Audio Ic's sound very good but the Nordost has more speed and air and a better soundstage.
post #18213 of 21631
I auditionde a krel kav 400 and a naim unitilite with my focus 160's. The Krell sounded amazing especially with it's control on the bass but in the end i went with the unitilite as it is a great all in one package.

i see that a power amp can be connected to the unitilite, so in order to match or even better the sound from the krell, which naim power amp should be capable of achieving this? It is only then that i think i would be getting the most out of my speakers

thanks
post #18214 of 21631
hallo everybody.
i want to buy focus 110 pasif, but my existing amplifier is NAD c326bee which has 50 watt for 8ohm, so my NAD can drive focus 110 with good performance?

thank's for the sharing.
post #18215 of 21631
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Originally Posted by rcl2949 View Post

hallo everybody.
i want to buy focus 110 pasif, but my existing amplifier is NAD c326bee which has 50 watt for 8ohm, so my NAD can drive focus 110 with good performance?
thank's for the sharing.

Sounds like a nice, little combo to me. biggrin.gif

As long as your room isn't huge, or you like to rock-out at concert-level volumes, I would say go for it.
post #18216 of 21631
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Sounds like a nice, little combo to me. biggrin.gif
As long as your room isn't huge, or you like to rock-out at concert-level volumes, I would say go for it.

my room is about 4 x 4 mtr, is it enough? smile.gif.
i will play music for low to moderate volume, my older speaker was epos m5 which have 4ohm also, and for that my range volume is about 9-10 o'clock
i am afraid , my NAD will run out of gas if driving the focus 110. confused.gif
post #18217 of 21631
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Originally Posted by rcl2949 View Post

my room is about 4 x 4 mtr, is it enough? smile.gif.
i will play music for low to moderate volume, my older speaker was epos m5 which have 4ohm also, and for that my range volume is about 9-10 o'clock
i am afraid , my NAD will run out of gas if driving the focus 110. confused.gif

I drove a pair of Contour S1.4s in a 3.5m x 5m room with a 45 WPC Naim and it was just fine for low to moderate volumes. It didn't quite stand up to large scale orchestra music, but was fine with jazz, rock, and other classical. Offhand, your NAD should be OK driving the Focus 110 at low to moderate volumes. The load is about the same as the Contours I had.
post #18218 of 21631
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Originally Posted by rcl2949 View Post

my room is about 4 x 4 mtr, is it enough? smile.gif.
i will play music for low to moderate volume, my older speaker was epos m5 which have 4ohm also, and for that my range volume is about 9-10 o'clock
i am afraid , my NAD will run out of gas if driving the focus 110. confused.gif

It's just my opinion, but I think you'll be OK. I'd plan to sit nearer-field...which should be OK with 110s...and you say you only play low to moderate volumes anyway.

I suppose the 160s are not an option?
post #18219 of 21631
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Originally Posted by prolle View Post

I auditionde a krel kav 400 and a naim unitilite with my focus 160's. The Krell sounded amazing especially with it's control on the bass but in the end i went with the unitilite as it is a great all in one package.
i see that a power amp can be connected to the unitilite, so in order to match or even better the sound from the krell, which naim power amp should be capable of achieving this? It is only then that i think i would be getting the most out of my speakers
thanks

congrats on the naim purchase. i think if you give it some time with the naim unitilite you might feel a little different down the road about its dynamics, its based on the same amp section as the Nait 5i and to be honest in my room I dont feel like I need more for my 160s. However if you feel down the road you need/want more power the NAP200 is 70w into 8, which doesnt sound like much, but naim seems to get the most out of their products in the power department.
post #18220 of 21631
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

It's just my opinion, but I think you'll be OK. I'd plan to sit nearer-field...which should be OK with 110s...and you say you only play low to moderate volumes anyway.
I suppose the 160s are not an option?

160 is out of my budget biggrin.gif
why do you prefer for 160?
or maybe for my room size better to get larger speaker like x16? or 110 is enough?
post #18221 of 21631
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Originally Posted by rcl2949 View Post

160 is out of my budget biggrin.gif
why do you prefer for 160?
or maybe for my room size better to get larger speaker like x16? or 110 is enough?

Well...the 160s are 1db more sensitive; and that rumored tipped-up presentation, would likely be a dynamite match with the NADs "smooth" sound.

Still, with your room at ~12'x12' (it's not perfectly square, is it? bad for acoustics)...you should be just fine. More than fine; don't fret. biggrin.gif
post #18222 of 21631
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Well...the 160s are 1db more sensitive; and that rumored tipped-up presentation, would likely be a dynamite match with the NADs "smooth" sound.
Still, with your room at ~12'x12' (it's not perfectly square, is it? bad for acoustics)...you should be just fine. More than fine; don't fret. biggrin.gif

yes it is perfectly square, but it is my bed room, so not bad for acoustic:D.
actually i want to buy x12, but when i hear x12 sound, it seem a little bit sharp, and i dont want to buy for sharp sound, or maybe it was not break in
any comment about it?
how about dm 2/6 sound compare to x12? in my town just have x12, so cant compare them.
from searching internet, i found that dm and excite series, both is easy to drive, maybe dm or excite series is better combo with my NAD 326bee
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Hi, does anyone know what the model# is for the tweeter used in the Audience 42?

Thanks,
Scott
post #18224 of 21631
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Well...the 160s are 1db more sensitive; and that rumored tipped-up presentation, would likely be a dynamite match with the NADs "smooth" sound.
Still, with your room at ~12'x12' (it's not perfectly square, is it? bad for acoustics)...you should be just fine. More than fine; don't fret. biggrin.gif

The 160s new crossover allows the speaker to also act more sensitive at low volumes and "seem" easier to drive. They still want current like all dyns, but they seem to need less volume to make the dynamics come alive. I wouldnt call the 160s tipped up, the S25s and sapphires sounded more tipped up to me then the 160s ever have.
post #18225 of 21631
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Originally Posted by sacarmic View Post

Hi, does anyone know what the model# is for the tweeter used in the Audience 42?
Thanks,
Scott
I would call dynaudio north america and talk to mick or emilios
post #18226 of 21631
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Originally Posted by rcl2949 View Post

yes it is perfectly square, but it is my bed room, so not bad for acoustic:D.
actually i want to buy x12, but when i hear x12 sound, it seem a little bit sharp, and i dont want to buy for sharp sound, or maybe it was not break in
any comment about it?
how about dm 2/6 sound compare to x12? in my town just have x12, so cant compare them.
from searching internet, i found that dm and excite series, both is easy to drive, maybe dm or excite series is better combo with my NAD 326bee
what were they powering the X12s with? I found the Excites to be rather smooth and almost laidback-ish. I could have been what was powering them or what music they were playing. The excites are a little revealing of upstream electronics, enough to notice such a thing.
post #18227 of 21631
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

what were they powering the X12s with? I found the Excites to be rather smooth and almost laidback-ish. I could have been what was powering them or what music they were playing. The excites are a little revealing of upstream electronics, enough to notice such a thing.

rotel amp and CA cd player, i did not mention the amp and cdplayer type, some of instrument music, bon jovi. etc
"I found the Excites to be rather smooth and almost laidback-ish" compare to dm series??
post #18228 of 21631
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Originally Posted by rcl2949 View Post

rotel amp and CA cd player, i did not mention the amp and cdplayer type, some of instrument music, bon jovi. etc
"I found the Excites to be rather smooth and almost laidback-ish" compare to dm series??

I have heard the DM 3/7s and they were a little bit more aggressive then the excites. Also, in my experience rotel doesnt go well with dynaudio. i really liked the excite x16s when I owned them, however i enjoy the 160s more neutral sound now a days.
post #18229 of 21631
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

I have heard the DM 3/7s and they were a little bit more aggressive then the excites. Also, in my experience rotel doesnt go well with dynaudio. i really liked the excite x16s when I owned them, however i enjoy the 160s more neutral sound now a days.

ok. maybe because of rotel, or the speaker did not break in, i will buy for x12, thank's for your comment, btw how to break in dynaudio loudspeaker? just running them or there is another better way
post #18230 of 21631
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Originally Posted by rcl2949 View Post

ok. maybe because of rotel, or the speaker did not break in, i will buy for x12, thank's for your comment, btw how to break in dynaudio loudspeaker? just running them or there is another better way
As far as breaking them in just play them. If you are impatient like me just put on a radio station or loop on a cd. Also vary the volume. Don't play at just one level. I played mine 24/7 (18 days) and turned them down at night and went from moderate with an occasional turn them up during the day. That being said if you place the speakers facing the front to front and reverse the polarity on 1 speaker cable it will cut down on the volume and you can play them louder so to say. I can't say how long the break in may take though. My C1's took forever but as I understand they take the longest of all Dyn speakers.
post #18231 of 21631
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Originally Posted by OctaDyn_Dude View Post

That being said if you place the speakers facing the front to front and reverse the polarity on 1 speaker cable it will cut down on the volume and you can play them louder so to say.
that's exactly what I do when breaking in individual drivers or speakers.
post #18232 of 21631
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Originally Posted by OctaDyn_Dude View Post

As far as breaking them in just play them. If you are impatient like me just put on a radio station or loop on a cd. Also vary the volume. Don't play at just one level. I played mine 24/7 (18 days) and turned them down at night and went from moderate with an occasional turn them up during the day. That being said if you place the speakers facing the front to front and reverse the polarity on 1 speaker cable it will cut down on the volume and you can play them louder so to say. I can't say how long the break in may take though. My C1's took forever but as I understand they take the longest of all Dyn speakers.

I agree with ODD. If the idea is to stretch and "soften" stiff drivers...you can't play them at low volumes all the time; you gotta work those bad-boys out, lol. X12 + C326BEE sounds like a perfect combo, for a Bedroom system; have fun!
post #18233 of 21631
Just WoW! I'm not trying to stir up sh*t, and so I'm deliberately not posting these comments along with the author (but suffice it to say, he's one of the regular objectivist posters here at AVS); but this just seems like such a load of crap to me! Total theoretical world vs real-world bullsh*t.

"The Focus 160 is a fairly tiny mini-monitor:

86 dB/W sensitivity (moderately low efficiency)
7.9 x 13.8 x 11.6 inch (fits on even modest bookshelves)
17 cm LF driver (6.5 inch)

My dynamic range estimator gives the following results:

Freq,Hz Max SPL, DB

10 69
20 81
30 88
40 93
50 97
60 100
70 103
80 105
90 107
100 109
130 114

These speakers are capable of producing a moderately loud output (100 dB) only down to 60 Hz.
Below 70 Hz, even a 50 wpc power amp could possibly overdrive them.
If you wanted to use them with a 100 wpc (typical AVR) WPC amplifier you would have to cross them over around 80 Hz to protect them from excessive power and audible distortion.

In all seriousness, unless these are only for night time use, or use in a tiny apartment or dormitory with thin walls, they would need a subwoofer to be able to cover even just the narrowest possible view of the musical frequency spectrum (down to 43 Hz) at fairly tame sound levels (100 dB SPL).
"

All you need to do, is open your damn ears...to know these speakers aren't over-driven by anything more than a 50wpc amplifier! I'd bet my system, this guy has never actually heard Focus 160s (and for the record, neither have I, lol; but at least I've owned 4 other pairs of Dyns...including the very similar predecessor, the Focus 140).

Please, shake you head and move on; let's keep this in here. We don't need a flame-war with this guy. I just don't understand this kind of garbage. mad.gif
post #18234 of 21631
CD you are going to love his follow up if you liked the 1st post....LOL!!
post #18235 of 21631
Don't worry, I tried to post a clear reply to set things straight. Crazy people these days tongue.gif
post #18236 of 21631
As I read back over what he wrote, I couldn't help but laugh when I saw the phrase, "my dynamic range estimator", he probably meant his brain talking out his arse biggrin.gif
post #18237 of 21631
Uhm, I don't want to get in the middle of this, but do you know who you're arguing with there?
post #18238 of 21631
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Originally Posted by beaveav View Post

Uhm, I don't want to get in the middle of this, but do you know who you're arguing with there?

i dont get it,... what do you mean?
post #18239 of 21631
So I am sticking with the Unitilite - would I see much of an improvement (in order to get the most out of my Focus 160s) if I added a Naim NAP power amp, such as a 200 or 250?

Thanks
post #18240 of 21631
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Originally Posted by prolle View Post

So I am sticking with the Unitilite - would I see much of an improvement (in order to get the most out of my Focus 160s) if I added a Naim NAP power amp, such as a 200 or 250?
Thanks
If you feel you need to add an amp in the future then go ahead, The unitilite could be enough for you, but if its not, then get an amp like the ones listed.
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