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post #19861 of 21607
Here's a question, why the heck does dynaudio even bother making the consequence model. They already have a flagship line. The consequence is totally unnecessary and I can't imagine they sell more than a couple a year world wide. Most people would pick the evidence line over the consequence and anyone that prefers the shorter height has Wilson and many other similar brands to choose from in that price range.
post #19862 of 21607
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Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post

Here's a question, why the heck does dynaudio even bother making the consequence model. They already have a flagship line. The consequence is totally unnecessary and I can't imagine they sell more than a couple a year world wide. Most people would pick the evidence line over the consequence and anyone that prefers the shorter height has Wilson and many other similar brands to choose from in that price range.

I heard a pair running with a huge Boulder coffin-sized affair and a Clearaudio Innovation Master with the Universal arm and Goldfinger Statement cartridge. eek.gif
post #19863 of 21607
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Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post

Here's a question, why the heck does dynaudio even bother making the consequence model. They already have a flagship line. The consequence is totally unnecessary and I can't imagine they sell more than a couple a year world wide. Most people would pick the evidence line over the consequence and anyone that prefers the shorter height has Wilson and many other similar brands to choose from in that price range.

I think it's for people that don't like subwoofers. Knowing Dynaudio is always quite modest about the frequency response of their speakers, the consequence will probably beat a lot of subs, as long as you feed it with plenty of power (like 500+ watts) to move that huge driver with enough accuracy.
post #19864 of 21607
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Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post

Here's a question, why the heck does dynaudio even bother making the consequence model.

"The Consequence Ultimate Edition is a statement for absolute
music reproduction.

Only an authentic loudspeaker specialist like Dynaudio owns the
vast knowledge of over 30 years experience and a complete un-
derstanding of music reproduction at the highest level of quality.
And only such a loudspeaker specialist as Dynaudio is able to fully
realize a loudspeaker of this class with its own development and
manufacturing – to truly create a Consequence Ultimate Edition"


The only logical explanation would be....is that they can! smile.gif
post #19865 of 21607
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Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post

Here's a question, why the heck does dynaudio even bother making the consequence model. They already have a flagship line. The consequence is totally unnecessary and I can't imagine they sell more than a couple a year world wide. Most people would pick the evidence line over the consequence and anyone that prefers the shorter height has Wilson and many other similar brands to choose from in that price range.
IMO the Consequence UE is Dynaudio's top of the line specialty speaker. For those who prefer the sound of the S25's/Sapphires the consequence is a step above those. Of course you will need a large room and power. Also for those who want a speaker that will go to a flat 20hz the consequence will do it too.
post #19866 of 21607
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

A pair of E110s retails for $1700.


This is an artificial price. In fact, manufacturing cost for Esotar 2 tweeter is not much more superior to Esotec tweeter.
post #19867 of 21607
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Originally Posted by Jarl View Post

This is an artificial price. In fact, manufacturing cost for Esotar 2 tweeter is not much more superior to Esotec tweeter.

I'm just reporting retail. I paid less for mine.

Otherwise, don't buy them if you think they are overpriced.
post #19868 of 21607
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Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post

Here's a question, why the heck does dynaudio even bother making the consequence model. They already have a flagship line. The consequence is totally unnecessary and I can't imagine they sell more than a couple a year world wide. Most people would pick the evidence line over the consequence and anyone that prefers the shorter height has Wilson and many other similar brands to choose from in that price range.

As far as I know the old Consequence sold really well, especially in Asia, despite being many years old. So it seems they decided to upgrade it a bit and continue selling it.

post #19869 of 21607
Well, I just made my first jump into the world of tubes. Today I ordered a Fosgate Signature v2 phono preamp. This just went out of production, but is considered a gem in its price range. I snagged the last one Acoustic Sounds had in stock,

I will have it by Wednesday and am looking forward to taking LP playback up a level. smile.gif


Edited by RaceTripper - 7/13/13 at 8:06pm
post #19870 of 21607
congrats dean!

Fosgate products always look great. im sure you will be very happy with it.
post #19871 of 21607
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

congrats dean!

Fosgate products always look great. im sure you will be very happy with it.

Yes, they look great, but a total mismatch for my stack of Naim boxes. smile.gif
Nevertheless, they have a fantastic reputation. There is a lot of love for this phonostage.
post #19872 of 21607
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

Yes, they look great, but a total mismatch for my stack of Naim boxes. smile.gif
Nevertheless, they have a fantastic reputation. There is a lot of love for this phonostage.

Even tho they are a total mismatch, something that nice should be put up on the top for showcase. as much as i love naim, naim is simple and elegant, but that fosgate is a total showcase piece. congrats again.
post #19873 of 21607
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Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post

Here's a question, why the heck does dynaudio even bother making the consequence model. They already have a flagship line. The consequence is totally unnecessary and I can't imagine they sell more than a couple a year world wide. Most people would pick the evidence line over the consequence and anyone that prefers the shorter height has Wilson and many other similar brands to choose from in that price range.

Here's a couple of reasons, my personal stab in the dark

1) It has a cult following in the asian market and is made more for that market than North America
2) It sounds different from the Evidence, different enough that a comparison with the Evidence isn't an Apples to Apples comparison
3) It is full range, even more full range than the Evidence
4) It has a warm, detailed sound that is more forgiving than the Evidence
5) Combined with a good turntable and amplification, It may well be the best vocal and jazz speaker in the world, capable of fully replicating a venue's aural space via it's deep bass performance, while the warm silky detailed, midrange gives vocals a beautiful timbre while scooping out recording insights aplenty.
post #19874 of 21607
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Originally Posted by Dynero View Post


5) Combined with a good turntable and amplification, It may well be the best vocal and jazz speaker in the world, capable of fully replicating a venue's aural space via it's deep bass performance, while the warm silky detailed, midrange gives vocals a beautiful timbre while scooping out recording insights aplenty.

I heard a Louis Armstrong recording with these (Boulder amps, high end Clearaudio turntable). It was pretty mind blowing.
post #19875 of 21607
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

Even tho they are a total mismatch, something that nice should be put up on the top for showcase. as much as i love naim, naim is simple and elegant, but that fosgate is a total showcase piece. congrats again.

I just look forward to hearing it. smile.gif
post #19876 of 21607
Sorry; OT. Any of the Dyn guys here...reside in the great Pacific Northwest?

Specifically...around the Seattle or Portland, metropolitan areas (or...Willamette Valley, OR)?

Thanks
post #19877 of 21607
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Sorry; OT. Any of the Dyn guys here...reside in the great Pacific Northwest?

Specifically...around the Seattle or Portland, metropolitan areas (or...Willamette Valley, OR)?

Thanks
I know a guy that owns dyns in Oregon , Portland I believe but he hangs around blu-ray.com goes by the name the factor
post #19878 of 21607
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

I know a guy that owns dyns in Oregon , Portland I believe but he hangs around blu-ray.com goes by the name the factor
I visit Portland every now and then. My sister and mother live there. I always stop at Papa Haydn's.
post #19879 of 21607
later today I'll be preparing some chipboard to be placed under the 40kg Confidences so I can slide them on the hardwood floor without doing mayhem. target is: better soundstage.
what are your experiences wrt placement-soundstage relationship? I know it's mostly a trial and error thing and most setup guides available online are divergent, but why not add one more version? biggrin.gif
post #19880 of 21607
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Originally Posted by gn77b View Post

later today I'll be preparing some chipboard to be placed under the 40kg Confidences so I can slide them on the hardwood floor without doing mayhem. target is: better soundstage.
what are your experiences wrt placement-soundstage relationship? I know it's mostly a trial and error thing and most setup guides available online are divergent, but why not add one more version? biggrin.gif

Wide spread and strong toe-in (10-15 degrees ) for strong imaging lock and a strong centre image, less toe-in for a wider soundstage, if the treble gets too strong for you put on the grille cloths.
post #19881 of 21607
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Originally Posted by gn77b View Post

later today I'll be preparing some chipboard to be placed under the 40kg Confidences so I can slide them on the hardwood floor without doing mayhem. target is: better soundstage.
what are your experiences wrt placement-soundstage relationship? I know it's mostly a trial and error thing and most setup guides available online are divergent, but why not add one more version? biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by Dynero View Post

Wide spread and strong toe-in (10-15 degrees ) for strong imaging lock and a strong centre image, less toe-in for a wider soundstage, if the treble gets too strong for you put on the grille cloths.

I use a recording of Vivaldi's "Gloria in D" to set speaker location and toe in. It has everything. orchestra, choir, small scale instrumental accompaniment and vocal soloists. I get my speakers set so that the entire orchestra and chorus fills the space between the speakers and I can pick out where the vocal ranges are positioned in the chorus. At the same time I should be able to locate instrumental and vocal soloists without their position seeming ambiguous or wandering. If I get it right with this recording, everything else pretty much sounds right.

Oh, and this is a fantastic piece of music. One of my all-time favorite recordings. I once performed in this too.

Vivaldi Gloria at Amazon


Edited by RaceTripper - 7/20/13 at 8:34am
post #19882 of 21607
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

I get my speakers set so that the entire orchestra and chorus fills the space between the speakers and I can pick out where the vocal ranges are positioned in the chorus./quote]

I still prefer this. biggrin.gif
LL
post #19883 of 21607
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Originally Posted by jaxwired View Post

Here's a question, why the heck does dynaudio even bother making the consequence model. They already have a flagship line. The consequence is totally unnecessary and I can't imagine they sell more than a couple a year world wide. Most people would pick the evidence line over the consequence and anyone that prefers the shorter height has Wilson and many other similar brands to choose from in that price range.
http://app.audiogon.com/listings/monitors-dynaudio-confidence-c1-mk-ii-high-gloss-black-gorgeous-and-mint-2013-07-17-speakers-76131
So what are you going to next?
post #19884 of 21607

I was about to ask Jaxwired the same question.

Guess you could say we are all more than a bit curious.

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Edited by rob80b - 7/17/13 at 7:45am
post #19885 of 21607
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Originally Posted by rob80b View Post

I was about to ask Jaxwired the same question.

Guess you could say we are all more than a bit curious.

I think he is so crushed by the death of Dr. Bose that he's getting a pair of 901s. Of course, he will have to remove his room treatments to give all those great reflections a chance to do their magic. eek.gif
post #19886 of 21607
Maybe Jax is going to try a pair of Blades
post #19887 of 21607
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Originally Posted by tr4a View Post

Maybe Jax is going to try a pair of Blades

No, I think it's time to go for a pair of these.

post #19888 of 21607
holy crap that man goes through high-end speakers like most people through water!

my wallet is crying.
post #19889 of 21607
He's not getting rid of the stands...yet...in that sale at least.

Either means a separate sale or he's going with another Dynaudio standmount...or just saving them for another day.
post #19890 of 21607
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Originally Posted by GTaudiophile View Post

He's not getting rid of the stands...yet...in that sale at least.

Either means a separate sale or he's going with another Dynaudio standmount...or just saving them for another day.

I already said, it. He kept the stands for the Bose 901s. tongue.gif

Meanwhile, my new Fosgate phono preamp is in the house. Out of the box it already sounds fantastic.
Edited by RaceTripper - 7/17/13 at 12:04pm
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