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Less talk, more synthohol. biggrin.gif
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So I always bounce around ideas. Recently noticed the Emotiva DC-1, and was thinking about using that as a pre/pro for an XPA-200 or XPA-2. Any opinions on using that vs using the Outlaw 975?

I like the idea of using something purpose-built (the DC-1), but with a full 7.1 pre/pro available for less that's supposed to have a decent dac in it... bass management, all that. I'm not sure..

I don't believe that amplifiers sound different unless they're voiced differently, but I'm one of those guys who only wants what the source is putting out. Any thoughts? Not trying to start a flame war or whatever, just trying to see what you guys think.

I recently re-arranged my speakers and brought them in closer. Bass sounds fuller, and I thought I had my sub on, but it was definitely not on. It's fun to just play around sometimes for something different eh?
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Oh Dyn thread; we used to know ye so well. redface.gif

Chalk one up for another "endangered" species! frown.gif
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

Less talk, more synthohol. biggrin.gif

What the hell is "synthohol"? Your post makes no sense. Is it supposed to be funny?

I don't get it
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What the hell is "synthohol"?
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Originally Posted by Borderdog View Post

What the hell is "synthohol"? Your post makes no sense. Is it supposed to be funny?

I don't get it
I think he meant less talk and more alcohol biggrin.gif
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"Synthohol" I was of those back in the 80's. biggrin.gif
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"Synthohol" I was of those back in the 80's. biggrin.gif
You had the perfect hair for radio 😉
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Originally Posted by Borderdog View Post

What the hell is "synthohol"? Your post makes no sense. Is it supposed to be funny?

I don't get it

That's what Worf always said in 10 Forward when he had enough talk. biggrin.gif
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Thread Started 6/9/06
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Originally Posted by AudioArchitect View Post

Dynaudio doesnt get much attention here, but it is very exclusive and as such not readily available in all states. As the exclusive Dynaudio dealer in San Diego, we represent their speakers as the state of the art. If you want to leave nothing to chance and simply want the most accurate performance Dynaudio is the ticket. In an industry where you can easily overpay for underpeforming equipment, Dynaudio has always been about no compromise speaker design regardless of price. After listening to the Contours in our showroom, I immediately knew that my next speakers would be the Contour S5.4....still saving.


I would love you to hear from all you Dynaudio owners out there, and what kind of gear that you pair up with it.

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My 2 ch setup consists of Oppo 103 , NAD 356bee, Parasound Halo A21 and my beloved Dynaudio Focus 160s smile.gif IC Analysis plus oval one , speaker cables Audioquest type 4 .
Love my 2 ch setup and these 160s are beautiful sounding speakers that mate well with my gear . Couldnt be happier !
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so i have been spending a lot of time just listening to music and watching a few movies. i have been able to enjoy my setup and get comfortable with the xs/160/tube dac sound. i am really liking the way the whole setup has come together musically. the tube dac allows for a very wide soundstage that offers great dynamics and a very natural rendering of vocals and instruments. using the oppo 103 directly results in a smaller soundstage and slightly drier sound. been listening to a lot of indie rock(as usual) plus classical and some hi-rez files. the hi-rez files have been great. looking to find some more. compared to the 5i the xs has more bass control - 5i was a little boomier, the xs doesnt get shouty at higher volumes, much better mid-range detail and with a deeper soundstage.

the only thing i have noticed with the xs was that after running audyssey i had to turn up the gain on the integra 1.5 dbs in order to get movies to sound more to my liking. i found that the xs seemed a little laidback when running as an amp. could have been that audyssey just calibrated too low. but thats been my experience. probably need to get another spl meter and check the levels all the way around.

actually want to get to a better tube dac in the future (eastern electric minimax dac plus is what im thinking), otherwise im thinking id get the PS Audio NWD if i went without tubes. this will probably happen down the road near next christmas. i see myself going more an more towards a computer based audio system, but ill still be buying cds for a while.
Edited by callas01 - 9/3/13 at 9:59pm
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I ran some 192/24 hi res music for the first time and since adding that with my A21 my setup sounds so amazing . I feel like those were the missing puzzle pieces ! My Dyns are really liking that power from my A21 . No comparison from my NAD 80wpc and the with the A21 having the first 10 watts class A it's like the frosting on the cake . All I want now is some more hi res music biggrin.gif
Callas That's interesting you mention a small sound stage and slight dryer sound with your 103 . I wonder if placement like toe in and out has anything to do with it to. I'm not that experiencing that at all but I did notice when adding my A21 my sound stage really spread out nicely .
Edited by TheFactor - 9/3/13 at 9:54pm
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

My 2 ch setup consists of Oppo 103 , NAD 356bee, Parasound Halo A21 and my beloved Dynaudio Focus 160s smile.gif IC Analysis plus oval one , speaker cables Audioquest type 4 .
Love my 2 ch setup and these 160s are beautiful sounding speakers that mate well with my gear . Couldnt be happier !

whats up Ed?
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

I ran some 192/24 hi res music for the first time and since adding that with my A21 my setup sounds so amazing . I feel like those were the missing puzzle pieces ! My Dyns are really liking that power from my A21 . No comparison from my NAD 80wpc and the with the A21 having the first 10 watts class A it's like the frosting on the cake . All I want now is some more hi res music biggrin.gif
Callas That's interesting you mention a small sound stage and slight dryer sound with your 103 . I wonder if placement like toe in and out has anything to do with it to. I'm not that experiencing that at all but I did notice when adding my A21 my sound stage really spread out nicely .

whats up buddy. i think that the oppo is a pretty good dac, but it seems to my ears at least that the tubes have a way of spreading the soundstage out wider then the 103, to the point where sometimes i think that the surrounds are in use. if i were mostly just going to buy cd's all the time, i probably wouldnt bother with an external dac, however getting more into computer audio/file storage an external dac has been sorta a needed. by saying the 103 is drier, you might just need to remember the way that the tubes of the rogue was, and how liquid and natural that sound was, and so some of that is brought into this setup with the tubes on the dac. voices sound more natural and 3D, the ambience of the recording venue seems more apparent on live recordings, instruments sound more natural with better textures.

so is the nad mostly just a pre-amp now?
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

whats up Ed?
Hi Steve smile.gif
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

whats up buddy. i think that the oppo is a pretty good dac, but it seems to my ears at least that the tubes have a way of spreading the soundstage out wider then the 103, to the point where sometimes i think that the surrounds are in use. if i were mostly just going to buy cd's all the time, i probably wouldnt bother with an external dac, however getting more into computer audio/file storage an external dac has been sorta a needed. by saying the 103 is drier, you might just need to remember the way that the tubes of the rogue was, and how liquid and natural that sound was, and so some of that is brought into this setup with the tubes on the dac. voices sound more natural and 3D, the ambience of the recording venue seems more apparent on live recordings, instruments sound more natural with better textures.

so is the nad mostly just a pre-amp now?
Hello my friend ! I see we're your coming from tubes really do have a nice lush and really full sound to them . I never experienced a tube DAC but I've heard so many good things about them . Although as you know I did have that tube amp and really enjoyed it . I guess I can't really compare the sound stage or vocals to a tube DAC and probably why I don't feel it's lacking in that area . But now that I'm getting into 192/24 files its opened up new avenues I guess . I'm not in any rush but may look into a external DAC in the future . Yes I'm just using the NADs preamp section now since adding the A21 into the mix . What a huge difference it made and mates really well with the NAD I can't beleive I waited this long . I guess reason being that I thought the NAD sounded really good and wasnt going to get any improvement . Wow was I wrong !
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

Hello my friend ! I see we're your coming from tubes really do have a nice lush and really full sound to them . I never experienced a tube DAC but I've heard so many good things about them . Although as you know I did have that tube and really enjoyed it . I guess I can't really compare the sound stage or vocals to a tune DAC and probably why I don't feel it's lacking in that area . But now that I'm getting into 192/24 files its opened up new avenues I guess . I'm not in any rush but may look into a external DAC in the future . Yes I'm just using the NADs preamp section now since adding the A21 into the mix . What a huge difference it made and mates really well with the NAD I can't beleive I waited this long . I guess reason being that I thought the NAD sounded really good and wasnt going to get any improvement . Wow was I wrong !

yeah, its just that natural organic sound from the tubes that just have drawn me in. i want a better tube dac now. however, ive put myself on a buying freeze. partly why i havent been around lately. too many bad influences tongue.gif i figured if i pulled back, id be less likely to want to purchase anything.. however its like crack. one thing i can say is that being away a little has allowed me to really just enjoy my setup, and given me perspective on what i have built.

i dont know enough about the nad, but im sure the A21 has a much more robust power supply and current delivery that the 160s just love. they certianly arent easy speakers to power. of course those hi-rez files sure do help, as do those class a watts.

im trying to wait a year to make any new purchases. plus im trying to pay for my wife to go to israel next spring, so it helps to have something else to focus on.

i felt the need to post here tonight since CD was wondering where everyone had gone... lol.
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Originally Posted by callas01 View Post

yeah, its just that natural organic sound from the tubes that just have drawn me in. i want a better tube dac now. however, ive put myself on a buying freeze. partly why i havent been around lately. too many bad influences tongue.gif i figured if i pulled back, id be less likely to want to purchase anything.. however its like crack. one thing i can say is that being away a little has allowed me to really just enjoy my setup, and given me perspective on what i have built.

i dont know enough about the nad, but im sure the A21 has a much more robust power supply and current delivery that the 160s just love. they certianly arent easy speakers to power. of course those hi-rez files sure do help, as do those class a watts.

im trying to wait a year to make any new purchases. plus im trying to pay for my wife to go to israel next spring, so it helps to have something else to focus on.

i felt the need to post here tonight since CD was wondering where everyone had gone... lol.
I know exactly what you mean Sometimes our home away from home feeds our desire to upgrade . I've been just enjoying my system to and fighting any temptations because as you and I know it can turn into a never ending buying frenzie lol . Yup we have to keep the Dyn thread a live biggrin.gif
Ya for sure this A21 made a huge difference and like I said it loves the NAD . The 160s love the power and The high Rez files really makes my system shine . That one of the many things I love about these 160s is they really respond to upgrades . I guess that just shows and confirms how great and well made Dynaudio speakers are .
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Anyone here have the Contour SC Centre or has heard it? After recently upgrading my fronts to the Sonus Faber Liuto Towers I've noticed my current centre - good as it is - lagging behind performance wise. The Sonus has a punchy, detailed sound but with a slightly rich, sweet tonal colouring. My previous exposure to Dynaudio makes me think this should be a great match but some feedback would be appreciated.
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A couple of updates I noticed on Dynaudio's website today...

1) They have added the PDF brochure for the New Excite series.

2) They seem to have gone and messed with all of the frequency response numbers or something. I know when I was researching the Focus 160 speakers, I 100% recall the FR being listed on their website as 40-25. (DedicatedAudio.com also uses these numbers.) But Dynaudio has now gone and adjusted the numbers for the entire range and some things don't make sense:

a. Focus 160 ($2900): The FR is listed in the Tech Specs as 44-21 but the second bullet under Features says, "17 cm MSP Mid/Woofer with 75 mm aluminum coil for deep, precise bass down to 40 Hz" which is the text I recall always being there. (link)
b. Focus 260 ($4900): The FR is listed in the Tech Specs as 32-23. (link) Use to be 32-25.
c. Focus 340 ($7500): The FR is listed in the Tech Specs as 42-22. (link) Use to be 32-25.
d. Focus 380 ($9500): The FR is listed in the Tech Specs as 35-23. (link) Use to be 30-25.

Now, looking at the numbers alone, I would say that the Focus 260 offers the best bang for the buck, literally, especially of the floorstanders. callas01 can probably attest to this given his recent in-home audition.

But why did they mess with the numbers even though, as we well know, numbers aren't everything? My guess it may have something to do with making the New Excite series more attractive to people like me who initially research by looking at numbers?

a. New Excite X14 ($1500): The FR is 50-23
b. New Excite X34 ($3400): The FR is 37-23
c. New Excite X38 ($4500): The FR is 34-23


Anyway, perhaps the Dynaudio rep(s) that monitor this page will send me a complimentary pair of Focus 260s for pointing all this out? smile.gif I'd be happy to consult on their website design and/or marketing mix strategy!!!
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Originally Posted by Taake View Post

Anyone here have the Contour SC Centre or has heard it? After recently upgrading my fronts to the Sonus Faber Liuto Towers I've noticed my current centre - good as it is - lagging behind performance wise. The Sonus has a punchy, detailed sound but with a slightly rich, sweet tonal colouring. My previous exposure to Dynaudio makes me think this should be a great match but some feedback would be appreciated.

The Contour SC Centre should be a fine centre but not necessarily an ideal match for your Sonus Fabers, general consensus dictates similar or better still identical speakers all round for HT.
I’m using the original Contour Center with my 25s, the Confidence Center would be a better match but HT is not a priority and cost prohibitive. Interestingly I do not how many times while watching a movie I inadvertently forgot to switch on the amp for the 25s (main L/R) redface.gif and realized half way though the film that all I was listening to was the center, surrounds and the sub, which IMHO that says a lot about the Dyn centers. smile.gif


Edited by rob80b - 9/4/13 at 8:16am
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Originally Posted by rob80b View Post

The Contour SC Centre should be a fine centre but not necessarily an ideal match for your Sonus Fabers, general consensus dictates similar or better still identical speakers all round for HT.
I’m using the original Contour Center with my 25s, the Confidence Center would be a better match but HT is not a priority and cost prohibitive. Interestingly I do not how many times while watching a movie I inadvertently forgot to switch on the amp for the 25s (main L/R) redface.gif and realized half way though the film that all I was listening to was the center, surrounds and the sub, which IMHO that says a lot about the Dyn centers. smile.gif

I've done that several times even with my X22
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Howdy y'all! No conspiracies here, just extremely busy these days. I was annoyed with some of the bickering and extremely off topic conversations but honestly that alone was not what kept me from posting, my wife and I had a new baby back in December and when I am not busy at work I am very busy at home. I promise I will make a better attempt at being more involved.

Rgds,
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We have a new guy making changes to the website, nothing to do with the new Excite except for the fact that they were adding the information for the new Excite and changed a few other things by mistake.

Focus 160 40hz-25khz
Focus 260 32hz-25khz
Focus 340 32hz-25khz
Focus 380 30hz-25khz


The new Excite series are designed around an all new driver platform that more closely resembles the Focus series in many respects and the technology from the new Excite was "trickled" down from the Focus. The X14 and X34 are now 8ohm whereas the X38 is 4ohm.
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Here is my latest hobby..... 20130823_075948_resized.jpg 194k .jpg file
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Here is my latest hobby..... 20130823_075948_resized.jpg 194k .jpg file
Much congrats!! What a cute hobby smile.gif
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Drat! Keep refreshing my PM inbox for my complimentary 260s biggrin.gif

Anyway, congrats on the baby, Dynlunatic!

Are you saying that the New Excite and Focus lines are essentially the same now? (Aside from the magnetic grilles of the former.) Same cabinets? Same drivers?

Interesting to see how the lines merge now...

New Excite X14 50hz-23khz $1500

Focus 160 / 40hz-25khz / $2900
New Excite X34 / 37hz-23khz / $3400
New Excite X38 / 34hz-23khz / $4500
Focus 260 / 32hz-25khz / $4900


Focus 340 32hz-25khz $7500
Focus 380 30hz-25khz $9500

It gets really interesting in the middle there. An X38 vs. Focus 260 comparison is definitely in order! But then again, once in the Focus line, stay in the Focus line.
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Nope, not the same but it brings the Excite closer in performance to the Focus than the outgoing Excite. The Focus is still using the superior drivers and crossovers along with the tapered cabinets resulting in the superior product. While the outgoing Excite was really good the new Excite bridges the gap between the Focus and outgoing Excite. "Some" of the technology used in the new Excite was trickled down from Focus but not all of it, not possible. Don't look at specs as they don't tell the whole story, even thought they are still impressive.
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Here is my latest hobby..... 20130823_075948_resized.jpg 194k .jpg file

Congrats Mick.

Best upgrade you can do!

You might as well sell me your speakers as you won't have time to listen to them now.

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