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Originally Posted by Mr.Q View Post

Most dealers don't get this from my experience. I've had a dealer that placed subwoofers I wanted to audition in the middle of the room! Or I auditioned large €6k floor standers in a small untreated room (aside from the carpet on the floor).

That's why there's no audition, like a home audition! wink.gif
post #20582 of 21650
For heaven's sake; someone buy these before I do. tongue.gif

https://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-dynaudio-focus-260-black-2013-12-20-speakers-45242-kettering-oh
post #20583 of 21650
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

For heaven's sake; someone buy these before I do. tongue.gif

https://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-dynaudio-focus-260-black-2013-12-20-speakers-45242-kettering-oh
Wish I could.
post #20584 of 21650
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

For heaven's sake; someone buy these before I do. tongue.gif

https://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-dynaudio-focus-260-black-2013-12-20-speakers-45242-kettering-oh

Ugh, I would jump right on these if I had the cash, have to sell a few things first
post #20585 of 21650
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

For heaven's sake; someone buy these before I do. tongue.gif

https://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-dynaudio-focus-260-black-2013-12-20-speakers-45242-kettering-oh

What are you waiting for? You can't just leave these two boys in the cold during the holidays? eek.gif
post #20586 of 21650
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Originally Posted by Mr.Q View Post

What are you waiting for? You can't just leave these two boys in the cold during the holidays? eek.gif

Need to sell my Arcam and my KEF's first before I buy anything else.
post #20587 of 21650
Hey; I know some of you Dyn owners, are longing for Naim gear. Take my word for it; this is an XS-2 killer http://app.audiogon.com/listings/solid-state-rega-elicit-r-solid-state-integrated-amplifier-2013-12-22-integrateds-92683 (no affiliation)
post #20588 of 21650
i remember hearing the Brio-R a nice unit. never heard the elicit.
post #20589 of 21650
Does anyone know if the quoted specs for the Contour 1.8mkII frequency range are -3dB, -6dB or -10dB?
28Hz seems like a valid number, but 30kHz seems a bit stretched for a D260 tweeter...

These figures come from the Dynaudio website:
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Technical Specification

Sensitivity (2.83 V/1 m): 86 dB
IEC Long Term Power Handling: 250 W
Impedance: 4 Ohms
Frequency Response: 28 Hz - 30 kHz
Weight: 19 kg
Dimensions (W x H x D): 204 x 935 x 294 mm
post #20590 of 21650
Still selling my S1.4's with Stand2's as well as my sub 500 all in Rosewood. I really don't want to part with them but financial scenario warrants a temporary downsizing of the media room.

https://app.audiogon.com/listings/subwoofers-dynaudio-sub-500-rosewood-sealed-12-2013-12-20-home-theater-53168

https://app.audiogon.com/listings/monitors-dynaudio-contour-s1-4-rosewood-includes-stand-2-s-2013-12-20-speakers-53168

I have no doubt I will wind up with Dynaudio's again as I have owed 4 different pairs but for now I'd like t part with them.
post #20591 of 21650
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Hey; I know some of you Dyn owners, are longing for Naim gear. Take my word for it; this is an XS-2 killer http://app.audiogon.com/listings/solid-state-rega-elicit-r-solid-state-integrated-amplifier-2013-12-22-integrateds-92683 (no affiliation)

Predictably, this went quick. Anyone here snag it by any chance??
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

For heaven's sake; someone buy these before I do. tongue.gif

https://app.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-dynaudio-focus-260-black-2013-12-20-speakers-45242-kettering-oh

Very tempting at that price but I'm still focusing on the amplification side.

Merry Christmas everyone!
post #20594 of 21650
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Originally Posted by GTaudiophile View Post

Very tempting at that price but I'm still focusing on the amplification side.

Merry Christmas everyone!

How do you mean GT? On a related note...I've recently swung the pendulum, back from sweet, low-watt tube and class-A kit; and am trying the new Emotiva XPA-2 Gen II. I know we have some Emo fans in here, so I'll post impressions...once I've taken it in a bit. biggrin.gif
post #20595 of 21650
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

How do you mean GT? On a related note...I've recently swung the pendulum, back from sweet, low-watt tube and class-A kit; and am trying the new Emotiva XPA-2 Gen II. I know we have some Emo fans in here, so I'll post impressions...once I've taken it in a bit. biggrin.gif

Meaning, I have an offer from a local dealer for a new NAIM SuperNait2 + Meridian Director DAC for $5K.

In all my DAC research, the Director doesn't seem to get rave reviews, so I am not sure how much of a "deal" it is.

And despite being in contact with 3 dealers in the DC Metro Area (one of which is giving me the offer) and 2 in Germany (was in Bonn and Düsseldorf for work last week), I have been UNABLE to find the SN2/XS2/DAC V1 in the flesh. Meaning, if I accepted the above offer, it would be without an audition. I am of course hesitant about that as well...
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

How do you mean GT? On a related note...I've recently swung the pendulum, back from sweet, low-watt tube and class-A kit; and am trying the new Emotiva XPA-2 Gen II. I know we have some Emo fans in here, so I'll post impressions...once I've taken it in a bit. biggrin.gif

Looking forward to your comments. Your observations often provide entertainment and insight biggrin.gif
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Anyone get any new toys for Christmas or Hanukkah?
post #20598 of 21650
Yes,

I got my beloved KW-500 Int. Amp back that matted very well with my Dynaudio C2's, much less expensive found a mint Musical Fidelity KW-500 for only $2200 bucks, I could not pass up that deal. It looks like it just came out of the box brand new as the Neurosurgeon who had it barely used it. biggrin.gif
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Hi all, Hope you are well. I am not an audiophile but an audio enthusiast. Would appreciate your guidance on a query below. To date I have assembled a system based on my ears (listening taste) but going forward need help on the technical side. I was considering adding the the Velodyne digital drive plus 10 inch powered sub to my existing audio set up. Please could you help me on how should i set this up. My current set up is as follows -
-Dynaudio Excite x36
-Musical Fidelity M1 Clic as preamp and
-2 Musical Fidelity M1 Pwr (mono mode)
-Atlas and wireworld power cables & accessories

As you can see from the above, i am trying to add a sub to a setup that is predominantly set up for stereo system (2.0). Please can you let me know if a) adding the sub will assist b) should I be upgrading my amplifier (not sure how big of a power amp - (MF pref) should I use with the excite series) c) which Dynaudio series is a good upgrade to the excite series ( need an all round speaker (listen to house to jazz music)

Thanks a lot in advance.
post #20600 of 21650
I think I am about to jump on the NAIM SuperNait2. For the time being, it will most likely be mated to a TEAC UD-501 DAC. I think this is combo I am going to run with. Haven't purchased anything yet...

I have been on the hunt to audition NAIM equipment this month. The 3 dealers in the DC area had neither the SN2, XS2, nor V1. I then traveled to Germany for work and had a little time to walk into HiFi dealers in Bonn and Düsseldorf and neither of them offered what I was looking for.

I am now in San Francisco for the holidays and found AudioVision. They have the XS2 and V1 and 80 wpc SuperUniti but no SN2, so I mainly compared the XS2 and the SU. But best of all they had the Focus 160s, so I got to audition these amps on my speakers! And man did they sing like they never have in my living room!!! We're talking instant foot-tapping, head-banging and singing along to the music! How can I describe moving from the XS2 to the SU? The same pie but with MSG flavor enhancer? The sound is all taken up a notch.

I was surprised, though, that at the volumes I enjoyed, the XS2 clipped when the drums kicked in on Paul Simon's "Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes." The SU more or less alleviated this but kicking up the volume a notch or two on it and re-playing the same segment also resulted in clipping, Sort of disappointing in that regard. In response to this clipping, my most kind and knowledgeable assistant commented on the power hungry nature of the Dyns and then switched them over to a Simaudio Moon 600i integrated costing a bit more than the SU...but I DID NOT CARE. Oh my goodness. The sound went from lively on the NAIM to dull and flat on the Simaudio. It was one of those night-and-day scenarios, immediately apparent to my ears.

One thing the assistant kept saying is that if I like the SU then I would love the SN2 because it's better with the DR. This is why I am leaning towards it.

AudioVision also carries the full line of RaidHos...


They also carry a compliment of Wyred4Sound products like the DAC2-DSD-SE. This made me think of JAXWIRED and this combo with his W4S ST-1000 MkII. The latter of which is of course NOT YET EVEN mentioned on their website!?! Are they going to release it for more people than him??? Given how power hungry the Dyns are, I do wonder if this 1000 watt amp might be a better solution than the SN2. But is it as musical, especially combined with the DAC2-DSD-SE?
post #20601 of 21650
GT Did you give a listen to any of those Ho's?? Very different from Dyn's. I would love to hear the Raidho c1.1 vs the D1 wink.gif
post #20602 of 21650
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Originally Posted by meghati View Post

Hi all, Hope you are well. I am not an audiophile but an audio enthusiast. Would appreciate your guidance on a query below. To date I have assembled a system based on my ears (listening taste) but going forward need help on the technical side. I was considering adding the the Velodyne digital drive plus 10 inch powered sub to my existing audio set up. Please could you help me on how should i set this up. My current set up is as follows -
-Dynaudio Excite x36
-Musical Fidelity M1 Clic as preamp and
-2 Musical Fidelity M1 Pwr (mono mode)
-Atlas and wireworld power cables & accessories

As you can see from the above, i am trying to add a sub to a setup that is predominantly set up for stereo system (2.0). Please can you let me know if a) adding the sub will assist b) should I be upgrading my amplifier (not sure how big of a power amp - (MF pref) should I use with the excite series) c) which Dynaudio series is a good upgrade to the excite series ( need an all round speaker (listen to house to jazz music)

Thanks a lot in advance.

I am also not an audiophile, so here is my opinion:

a) A good sub will. I only have had REL subs so far and they have a special connection to connect them to the binding posts on the amp. A good sub adds a lot of depth to the soundstage and it feels like there is more air between instruments. Since the x36 are 'bigger' speakers, you might wanna get a sub with a 12" cone.

b) I think it depends on how loud you wanna be able to listen to your music without any distortion, but it's hard to guess by just looking at the numbers. The 'watt' number don't say much unless you know the % of distortion you get at that wattage. One company might rate their amp @ 0.1% THD, while the other rates their amp @ 1% THD. From what I can remember a human can hear THD from 2% or higher. If you want lots of watts per dollar, you might wanna look into cheaper brands like Emotiva or like me go the Class D way.

c) Since you have floor standers now, you could go for a floor stander in the Focus range, or you could move up to Contour S1.4 stand mounts or maybe even go crazy and go for the C1's. Both the S1.4 and C1 are large stand mount speakers that leave many competitor floor standers look like small speakers.
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Originally Posted by GTaudiophile View Post

They also carry a compliment of Wyred4Sound products like the DAC2-DSD-SE. This made me think of JAXWIRED and this combo with his W4S ST-1000 MkII. The latter of which is of course NOT YET EVEN mentioned on their website!?! Are they going to release it for more people than him??? Given how power hungry the Dyns are, I do wonder if this 1000 watt amp might be a better solution than the SN2. But is it as musical, especially combined with the DAC2-DSD-SE?

You need as much watts as you want to listen to distortion free sound at higher volume levels. I currently have the STI-1000 and it's doing a very fine job. Especially at higher volume levels the sound is quite a bit better then my previous amp, which had 190W @ 4Ω (125W @8Ω).

I don't really believe in the whole 'musical' part of amplifiers, but to each their own. I just think it's a lot of money we are talking about for a box that amplifies an electric signal, which you also can invest in other things like room treatments, a good sub for stereo, and C1's (because why not? cool.gif ), that from my own experience have a lot more impact on sound.
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Well I can only say that the NAIM XS2 and SU both sounded more musical than the $8.5K Simaudio Moon integrated. The difference to my ears was night and day.
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What pre are you using in that setup?
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Originally Posted by Mr.Q View Post

You need as much watts as you want to listen to distortion free sound at higher volume levels. I currently have the STI-1000 and it's doing a very fine job. Especially at higher volume levels the sound is quite a bit better then my previous amp, which had 190W @ 4Ω (125W @8Ω).

I don't really believe in the whole 'musical' part of amplifiers, but to each their own. I just think it's a lot of money we are talking about for a box that amplifies an electric signal, which you also can invest in other things like room treatments, a good sub for stereo, and C1's (because why not? cool.gif ), that from my own experience have a lot more impact on sound.
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Originally Posted by GTaudiophile View Post

Well I can only say that the NAIM XS2 and SU both sounded more musical than the $8.5K Simaudio Moon integrated. The difference to my ears was night and day.

You are not really comparing amps when auditioning integrated units if both amps are capable of driving the speakers. The sound difference is in the processor.
post #20607 of 21650

would the Octave V40SE ,  have enough   to drive C1's  (with black box or not)   was  talking to the dealer, he seemed to like solid state over the tube (pass labs/simaudio)

post #20608 of 21650
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Originally Posted by GTaudiophile View Post

What pre are you using in that setup?

The STI-1000 is the integrated amp one, so no pre. It goes for like $2400 iirc
post #20609 of 21650
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Originally Posted by amatuerholic View Post

Anyone get any new toys for Christmas or Hanukkah?

Well...I already mentioned the Emo XPA-2 Gen II. I've reserved critical judgment, because a) I'm letting it collect a few hours for break-in and b) I don't even have a "proper" pre-amp to drive it with currently. I'm using my Mytek as pre-amp, and while I'm not a big fan of DAC-as-preamp...the Mytek does have one very nice feature, that makes it at least tolerable; it offers analog, as well as digital volume control. Of course, I've taken a couple of sneaky-peek listens...and I have to say; this amp has potential! biggrin.gif

After running Harbeth, and tube and smaller-watt class-A IAs for a while; I'm going 180-degrees, and pairing the big-power Emo with the PMC FB1i. The Harbeth and PMC have been battling it out; I like 'em both (and as I recently told a friend...when you're talking PMC, Harbeth, Dynaudio; it's ALL good. It's really just a matter of preference, and then system matching). But I think I can safely say...the PMCs need that BIG power. The best I ever heard them sound before, was when I tried Wyred4Sound SX-500 monos (250/550).

Lately...I've been more than content, with the very sweet, very boogey-ing class-A Cayin 265Ai IA. With that amp, I've been moving back and forth...between the Harbeth and PMC occasionally. Again, there's a lot to like about the PMC...but with lesser powered amps, there's a bit of a disconnect between top and bottom. The FB1i digs so low (28Hz)...when the bass is flabby; while it's enveloping, it tends to over-run the balance of the speaker. With the Wyred monos, and now again...with the 300/500 Emo; the bass is still aplenty...but much tighter, taut, and crisp. The PMCs don't feel so bass-heavy, but instead have a great balance.

The Emo is pretty lean though; but not...to my surprise...un-musically strident (that I can tell to this point). When I had the Wyreds...I had a really beautiful-sounding VTL 2.5 tubed pre-amp feeding it. I've read, that's one of the secrets to making class-D sound "good"; you need to sweeten the front-end, and feed it right...lol. I think that's also the way to go, with this Emo. Missed out on an ARC pre-amp I was chasing; so in the short term...I just picked up an E.A.R. 834L line-stage. No remote, which is a problem long-term; but I'm pretty excited to give it a spin. I've always read great things about Tim de Paravicini's kit; and it'll give me a chance, to really size the Emo up...with a proper front-end.

If the Emo/PMC pairing, owns up to the potential it shows; I may be forced to move my beloved Harbeths. Wish I could keep it all; but I'm already very happy with the KEF LS-50s in the Office rig (and 3 systems, is just too indulgent; isn't it? lol). I know no one in here, would trade Dyns for Harbeths...lol; but you could do worse, than to try my Cayin 265Ai. I know there are big fans of PRat in here; well...the first word to come to mind, with this class-A gem...is "boogey". As in, it just drives and grabs the music...and really dances it around, lol. Here's a little demo; with little Focus 110s no less. While I don't usually go in for these YouTube auditions; I think you do get a sense of how rich and full, the Cayin's sound is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB3rGp6QKg4
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Originally Posted by Sprocket75 View Post

would the Octave V40SE ,  have enough   to drive C1's  (with black box or not)   was  talking to the dealer, he seemed to like solid state over the tube (pass labs/simaudio)
I had the V40SE for about a week at 1 point when I had my C1's. The V40 seemed to hold its own (with a BB). I also had the V70SE and now the V110. With each step up you gain a hair more 'control' in the music.

That being said I did that when I had the original C1's AND I used either KT88's or Kt90 output tubes and not the EL34's. C1 MKII/Sig would be a better match IMO
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