Dynaudio Owner's Thread - Page 103

Just wanted to throw my two cents out there. I have been reading this thread for awhile now and just wanted to comment on the amp I just picked up. Its a RMB-1575 class D amp. I had been using the RMB-1085 and liked the sound quality of it with my C1's and 220's, but always felt I needed a little more power than the 5x180 watts into 4 ohms could do so it was a blessing when Rotel announced the 5x500 watts into 4 ohms (5x250 into 8 ohms). While I still prefer the looks of the RMB-1085, there isn't really a comparison between the amps, the Dyn's love the amount of power from the larger class D amp. I know a lot of you are into the higher end manufacturer's, do if you get a chance take a look at this newer Rotel amp. Its small size, somewhat cool running class D makes this a winner for me.

That is a big statement, as I think the S5.4 have great image.

well take my statement there with a grain of salt... lol first your comparing the imaging and soundstaging to that of the C4 the other thing is i am just now playing more with 5.4's in a 2 channel environment

Just giving you a hard time, I would love to have a pair of C4 in my room, but aren't they twice the price of a S5.4?

Michael

uh huh.... piano black 5.4's are 12,000 though lol

Sigh, my dealer ( now there's an apt word ) has a great trade-in program and while I could trade in my 3.4's for the 5.4's having heard the stouter bass of the 5.4 I just know this would overload the room.

Incidentally while I'm for the most part pretty happy with the 3.4 ( i would want slightly more mid-bass though because it's more forgiving at lower listening levels ), the main thing I would want the 5.4 for is that wonderfully natural esotar tweeter, they just sound more detailed and authentic.

Maybe the C1 is what the doctor ordered? Don't let its size fool you. It is a fantastic speaker and less than a S5.4 in price. With a good sub, heaven. These guys image like bandits and have good bass without a sub.

I am using C1 in a fairly large room and upgrade time for me is finally done. Except for that Sim gear I would like to buy next year..

Rick

I've thought about that a greta deal CETA but my dealer doesn't have them in stock yet and I think he's got the ones he ordered earmarked for people already. He's actually trying to sell me a used pair of watt-puppy 5.1's. Tempting in the sense that they're iconic speakers and their not too tall but I've heard them and while it sounds quite nice in an ultra resolving studio monitor/boom sub kind of way I have a feeling after the initial "fun of the new" wears off I'd miss the seamlessness of the Dynaudio sound. Truth be told I didn't think the wp 5 sounded all that it was cracked up to be, maybe in '95 but thirteen years later?

I've thought about adding either a sub for just a touch more mid bass but I'm a little worried about the integration. The other option is to go for a power amp with a little more mid bass since the Krell I use is actually very neutral in the bass.

I should add however that the dyn krell combo ( the krell amp is the kav 2250 ) only lacks a little bass slam at lower volumes, at proper playback levels the bass is bang on accurate and clean.

Thanks for the insights Brad. Not confusing at all, you're spot-on. Would be very nice to have you open up a store here in our neighbourhood.

Class D amps are cool running and have exceptional low end torque. I should try that some time with the newer modules. The old Linn 250 (not sure about the model) didn't mate well with my system a few years back. Thanks for your thoughts.

Why not post it here? Receivers/amps/pre pros compliment each other. It is more relevant than your usual "hows it going buddy" or maybe "I have been away for awhile". Most of your posts would be better in a PM.

Didn't you make several posts about amps on another speaker thread?

My point was that he was linking a thread to a different forum about a receiver that has a thread on this forum. I guess you cannot understand that though.

I would love to see a single post where i say I have been away for awhile. Nice try though.

Hey i had a nice guy come in here that currently owns Infinity Prelude's and was has been "bitten by the bug" so is looking around at speakers, Revel was on the list as well as the KEF 207's i had i suggested C2's or C4's after hearing what he liked and listened to... he listened and didn't seem to jump outta seat at the C4's in fact got an email today from him just saying he still has yet to find a speaker that really stands out to him, and wants to go listen to the new Infinity Prelude Fourty's has anyone heard them? i know they are $12,000 so whats the deal with them the C4's are the best speaker i have ever personally heard bar none. (have yet to hear the Evidence Line yet) so is it just me or am i missing something?? Lol

pal1982 -

There is often no rationale behind one person loving a speaker like the C4 and other person not being moved by it. There is no one perfect speaker for everyone. It's all very subjective and there are many different variables (musical tastes, prefences for a certain type of sound quality, aesthetics, etc.).

If I had the space for the C4's, they'd be on my short list of uber speakers to own.

Did you ask him what he felt was missing from the sound of the C4's?

PS - I owned the MK1 KEF Reference 203's and I agree that they were quite bright. The new MK2's are supposed to sound much more balanced. Many would consider them (and the Revels) to be the speaker to beat when it comes to neutrality.

Hi, can you guys share some of your experiences with speaker cables and interconnects. Any suggestions? With the Dynes I've heard Cardas Golden Reference interconnects, Synergistic Research IC's and DH Labs Silversonic Revelations. My favourite was the Cardas followed by the Synergistic research and DH Labs kinda tied. Speaker cables I've tried XLO ultra 6 with the 3.4 and Van Den Hull cs122, I thought the xlo outclassed the VDH by a significant margin.

Before I pull the trigger on the IC's I want to hear the xlo reference though
btw for $400 the DH Labs were really really good.

TARA Labs hands down, no questions asked, bar none... uncolored best i have ever heard... and i have hear pretty much all of them.... i put 1/2 price TARA's up against MIT Oracle MA's and it buried them.... 1/2 priced TARA's against MIT Magnum MA and it buried them too. Had Cardas Golden Reference in here at the same time and it was the same deal the TARA's are just so open and neutral for many its almost a set back... if its your first time listening to them don't jump head and feet into them start a little under what you were wanting then move up... they are extremely transparent... first cable in YEARS that's made me go "WOW!" , if you listen to nothing else i ever say listen to this.... TRY OUT TARA LABS!

Just a lil FYI on Synergistic Research the Tesla has been known to cause issues in some amps... Simaudio for sure... have had customers that have called me with issues with them.... can't tell you on here exactly what but um... lets just say its confirmed.... and it can be detrimental to expensive electronics.

P.S. The TARA's were so good i switched every cable in my store that's 3 rooms of cables out for them, i was that impressed... it's not snake oil technology its real!

He said the C4's seemed a lil dark... i totally disagree obviouslly.... i could be lovestruck though and a tad biased :P

The new Synergistic Tesla stuff is fantastic. I am a believer in cables and have tried many different ones and LOVE the new Tesla stuff. I have Accelerator speaker cable, T2 power cord on my pre, and T3 power cord on my amp. I want to add an Acoustic Reference interconnect at some point. You owe it to yourself to audition them. The good Synergistic dealers all have plenty of cables available for demoing, as they know you must hear the cables in your system to get the right synergy.

I think it is possible PAL tried to become a dealer and it did not work out or something. Because he leaves to bring up the same story everytime Synergistic is mentioned, even though he has the story totally wrong If you wish to get more info on this story or Synergistic in general just shoot me a PM so we do not derail the thread too far.

He ought to listening to something more voiced through the midrange such as Dali or B&W if he found the C4's dark. I do not think dark is a term I have ever heard when describing Dynaudio speakers, certainly a bit perplexing.

To Ryden's point; I have also heard great things about the Synergistic Research Product. (Not a lot of direct experience.)

In general we have found that there are a lot of good cables to choose from that are not Snake Oil but rather companies that use technology and science have been able to literally push the audio envelope. I have a friend who swears by Tara Labs and as most of you know we work almost exclusively with Nordost.

There is no "right cable" as they are truly system dependent. We try to build extremely neutral systems and we have found the Dyns to have an uncanny ability to reveal subtle changes in cabling, isolation, etc. due to their highly resolving design. Your best bet in picking a cable is to work with a dealer whom can loan different cables to try for a couple of weeks to make sure you are not on an endless hunt for "the right cable."

Regarding speaker cables, many here suggest pure copper over silver plated copper. Not sure if it applies to interconnects too. +1 for Tara Labs.

Tyler, FWIW, I replaced my entire Nordost system with Synergistic (and am very pleased with the results). Elliott and Ted are great guys there, it may be worth your time to check them out?

How is the Spectrum Speaker Cables from Tara? I've got some Prism interconnects, it looks like Spectrum is a newer line?

I don't want to turn this into a cable forum ha ha ha, but it sounds a little more open, and natural... the prism tended to be more flat.. where the spectrum is more open and spatial

Brad, what was driving the C4s? Mixed components or all Sims?

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If the problem is a serious as you describe why not share it with all members so they do not destroy their equipment?

What is your estimated price?