Dynaudio Owner's Thread - Page 104

Originally Posted by rydenfan

The new Synergistic Tesla stuff is fantastic. I am a believer in cables and have tried many different ones and LOVE the new Tesla stuff. I have Accelerator speaker cable, T2 power cord on my pre, and T3 power cord on my amp. I want to add an Acoustic Reference interconnect at some point. You owe it to yourself to audition them. The good Synergistic dealers all have plenty of cables available for demoing, as they know you must hear the cables in your system to get the right synergy.

I think it is possible PAL tried to become a dealer and it did not work out or something. Because he leaves to bring up the same story everytime Synergistic is mentioned, even though he has the story totally wrong If you wish to get more info on this story or Synergistic in general just shoot me a PM so we do not derail the thread too far.

Originally Posted by pal1982

Just a lil FYI on Synergistic Research the Tesla has been known to cause issues in some amps... Simaudio for sure... have had customers that have called me with issues with them.... can't tell you on here exactly what but um... lets just say its confirmed.... and it can be detrimental to expensive electronics.

P.S. The TARA's were so good i switched every cable in my store that's 3 rooms of cables out for them, i was that impressed... it's not snake oil technology its real!

Originally Posted by HTMAN21

What is your estimated price?

Originally Posted by AudioArchitect

Though I would've liked a similar look to the Focus 220 only larger, Im guessing that the Focus 360 is designed to offer high-end Contour level performance in a more conservative styling and cabinet design. I really like the modern and sleek Danish styling of the Contour 3.4 and 5.4, but I DO understand that some people are overwhelmed by the modern styling. Now we have a speaker that can achieve similar performance, but not attract so much attention if thats makes sense.

Originally Posted by AudioArchitect

The retail price will be $6500/pair. Considering this speaker has the Estoar2 tweeter as found in the Confidence C1 ($7000/pair), AND has dual 8" woofers and a dedicated mid, this thing should be a downright steal!

Seems like a similar driver-array as the Contour S5.4 ($10,000/pair) in a more traditional configuration and in a more traditional cabinet.

Originally Posted by Dynero

I would imagine that soundwise the Focus 360 would definitely give contour level performance. If I were to guess and this is just a GUESS: ) It'll probably have more slam than the 3.4 but not as much as the 5.4.

The midrange of the 3.4 would probably be a little more refined and I would guess that the cabinet would be more solidly built ( hey the 360's got three drivers and an esotar tweeter, they gotta cut corners somewhere ) so maybe better imaging and soundstaging from the Contours.

I would guess for the voicing the Contours would be more neutral and maybe open, the Focus sweeter and more forgiving. Why do I say this> Simply from experience with both the sound of the current Focus and Contour models THEN AGAIN, the opposite could just as easily be true, that esotar tweeter is I think the unknown element in all this but i don't think they'll make it to be as revealing or as refined as the Confidence or Contour models.

I would imagine that they're ramping up production at this point and the 360 has been voiced so it's just a matter of time I guess.

Originally Posted by Dynero

I would imagine that soundwise the Focus 360 would definitely give contour level performance. If I were to guess and this is just a GUESS: ) It'll probably have more slam than the 3.4 but not as much as the 5.4.

The midrange of the 3.4 would probably be a little more refined and I would guess that the cabinet would be more solidly built ( hey the 360's got three drivers and an esotar tweeter, they gotta cut corners somewhere ) so maybe better imaging and soundstaging from the Contours.

I would guess for the voicing the Contours would be more neutral and maybe open, the Focus sweeter and more forgiving. Why do I say this> Simply from experience with both the sound of the current Focus and Contour models THEN AGAIN, the opposite could just as easily be true, that esotar tweeter is I think the unknown element in all this but i don't think they'll make it to be as revealing or as refined as the Confidence or Contour models.

I would imagine that they're ramping up production at this point and the 360 has been voiced so it's just a matter of time I guess.

Originally Posted by dynlunatic

Dynero,
I have attached some pictures of the 360 at the RMAF to give everyone a better idea of the size of the 360.

Originally Posted by CETA1

The Saphire still gives me goose bumps. Stunning.

Originally Posted by dynlunatic

This is a quote from one of the reviewers at RMAF:


If there's anything I expect from Dynaudio, it's superb bass. Dynaudio's 30th-anniversary Sapphire ($16,500/pair) certainly produced copious amounts of bass. But the speaker gave me far more than sheer volume. In combination with the Wadia 781i transport/DAC ($15,000), Pass Labs XA100.5A monoblocks ($16,000/pair), Grand Priz Monaco Amplifier Stand, and XLO Signature 3 SE-1 power cords ($1100/8'), S3-2.2 balanced interconnect ($900/m), and S3-4.2 digital cable ($455/m), the system delivered some of the most well-proportioned, beautifully delineated bass I've ever heard. The opening of Mahler's Symphony 2 is rich with the sound of cellos, violas, and basses, and this system nailed each and every line with rare beauty. On the other end of the spectrum, soprano Elly Ameling's voice radiated angelic sweetness. Pictured with the equipment they represent are Dynaudio's Michael Manousselis (l) and Wadia's Martin E. Cooper (r).

From Soundstage!:

Originally Posted by VT Skier

I have a question regarding combining a C1 with a Stand4.

Is it "better" to screw the C1s directly to the stands rather than placing them on top? This may be a silly question because Dynaudio seems to have designed both products with this in mind, but I'm just curious.

Also, is it better to fill both columns of the Stand4 or would filling one column suffice? I know John Atkinson mentioned filling them 2/3 full with cat litter or sand, and Dynaudio seems to encourage filling one column only (by providing only one plastic sleeve per stand to put inside the columns).

And regarding any questions about components, I'm using Bel Canto 1000s and a Lyngdorf preamplifier/subwoofer system, along with a Sony XA777ES. Sounds terrific, although I hope to get to Goodwins in Boston at some point to compare the sound to Simaudio components. I just haven't had time to pull everything apart and make the drive down lugging all the gear. Of course, if I screw the speakers down and fill the stands with litter, I may never do the comparison.

Originally Posted by Mozvz

Mick,

That's some list of equipment in the chain with those Sapphire's.

Originally Posted by dynlunatic

Dynero,
While I had some time with the 360's prior to going to the RMAF, they were not even close to being broken in but I would have to say that with my knowledge of the entire line and specifically the differences between the Focus and Contour, you guess is probably spot on! The S3.4 in an incredible speaker, it is one of the most balanced loudspeakers I have ever heard. I believe the 3.4 could definitely benefit from the use of an Esotar2 tweeter and a modification while possible just isn't going to happen right now. The Esoter2 tweeter is more detailed and refined than the Esotec tweeter in the 3.4 but I wonder if it would throw off that balance of the 3.4, sometimes it is better not to mess with a good thing. With that being said I believe the 360 will have incredible detail and refinement in the high frequency, unbelievable output and the midrange that Dynaudio is known for, a baby Contour S5.4 rather than Sapphire. I have attached some pictures of the 360 at the RMAF to give everyone a better idea of the size of the 360.

Originally Posted by CETA1

Very interesting that they went with Esotar2. I wonder if a second Center Channel will make it to the line-up like the Contours?

Rick

I'm getting ready to list my B&W 703s and am going to purchase the 220s or the 3.4s.

This may or may not be the place to ask, but what should I list the 703s for? They are a solid 9/10 and are in Maple finish.

Originally Posted by VT Skier

Thanks for the help, and thank you Mick for the good advice, as always.

I bought some play sand at Home Depot today, and hope to dry it out over the weekend. Then it's both columns screwed to the C1s, 2/3 filled and off to the races.