Sunset Rose Cinema Construction Thread - Page 3

Unfortunately not. I will have to treat it.

Craig put me on to the No Burn product. They have a series of videos showing how well it works located here http://www.noburn.com/video.asp

Looks really good.

John

Well, it has been a couple months since I posted (or spent more than about 5 minutes on the forums) last and I thought I would update my thread with some recent photos. I have not really done anything in the HT for a while not as I have been working on the remainder of the basement. I finally got all of my drywall up minus a small partial strip and a spot in the wall between the HT and the main room and actually got my first layer of mud up this weekend. I ran out of mud this morning so I am calling it quits for the remainder of the holiday and am heading down to FL to visit relatives on Wed.

Here is a shot down and back up the stairs to the basement. My wife is doing the colors in everything but the HT and so far I like what she has done. The goldish yellow color looks great and will surely look better once carpet comes in. The door at the top was a plain hollow core 6 panel that my wife thought would look better as a glass door. I have to agree. I will be adding some rope lights along the top of the baseboards to give the stair a nice glow.





This one is looking onto my future model railroad room. My mudding leave a bit to be desired. The purple drywall is moisture resistant to appease my wife since we had some efflourescence through that wall.



Looking back out from the future train room into the main basement. TV viewing area is to the left in the indent.



Future bar area. Still some trimming up to do here and getting the bar wall completed. That will happen after the sheetrock is done. Some nice pendants will hang over the bar and a small pub table will be located at the right between the bar and the wall.



That is about all there is to show right. As soon as Christmas is over I will be back in the basement and finishing up the mudding. Once mudding is complete I will prime everything and paint the ceiling in the main room. Then I am back onto the HT and start with furring for the linacoustic.

Comments, positive or negative, are appreciated.

John

Gonzo,

Why yes your "baby" has served me quite well. It is amazing how much work that thing saved me. I sheetrocked the whole space (136 sheets) by myself with some help getting the sheets on the lift by my boys. I can not imaging having to do it with T bars.

I already see a difference even without the prime and paint. But I need to replace some bulbs in the cans. All the banging and such has blown nearly half of them LOL

John


BTW If anyone is in the market for a sheetrock lift and lives within a couple hours of Charlotte, NC give me a PM. Cheap and works well. I got it from Gonzo a few months ago and it works flawlessly.

Well I made some progress on the bar area today. I got the wall youy see in the previous post sheeted, all my cabinets installed, plywood layer for the tile and hardwood upper bar in. There will be 3 high chairs at the front of the bar and a small pub table in the space between the bar and the wall on the right in the first photo. Tomorrow I am back to mudding the ceiling in the whole basement (2nd coat) and finish coat in the bathroom.

A shot from the bottom of the basement stairs

A shot from the TV area

Backside of the bar. Still need to install the filler piece ath the left of the cabinets and the space between the sheetorck walls will be a hardwood ledge with shelving above.

Another shot from behind.


Let me know what you think.

No pictures to day since there is really nothing new to take a picture of but I did want to say one thing: mudding TRULY SUCKS. I have never felt like something would never get finished in my life but this is absurd. I did finish my second coat on everything but a small hall last night and tonight I plan on finishing that and sanding tomorrow night.

I can tell you for sure that if I ever build another HT (likely when I move in 5 years or so) I will hire out the mudding. It might be different if I was only working on a 300SF HT but 1400SF of sheetrock is a DAMN LOT!

Sorry about that. Had to vent. It does suck though and my shoulder is killing me. I should have probably cleared out the space first so I was not moving the ladder around the junk on the floors and scraps of sheetrock. I am not sure how Bud managed it. He had a lot to do too.

John

Gonzo,

I am not sure I will come out a better man, just a tired one. I may be getting too picky. I have seen bad drywall work before and I'll be damned if it happens to me. I also put it up a bit thick in the 1st coat and have a good bit of sanding to do. Trial and error I guess. Second coat went on a lot easier and smoother than the 1st.

I may need to thin my compound a bit since I am using the Sheetrock 90 with dust control and it is a bit thick. Fine for the 1st 2 coats but I am assuming that a thinner mix is preferred for the top coat. I need to figure out how much water to add to it. I never realized how much good the dust control portion of it does. I really have no problem with airborne dust but my floor is a freaking mess LOL

John

Gonzo,

How much water should I add to thin it?. I do not want to add too much.

John

I am going to run by Big Blue tonight and pick up a mixing paddle and see how things go. I did watch the videos and he made me sick I love and hate watching a pro work.

I am also picking up a piece of 3/4 MDF and a drawer glide and possibly work on my DIY anamorphic lens. I got the prisms recently (less than $90) and want to test them out tonight. If I get the chance I will post some pictures of what I get done.

John

Yes I did. I do not remember the name of the place but I have their card at work so I will post it tomorrow. I did not take any pics tonight but I did make a temporary prism case that turns out to be too small. I need to make another one about 2 inches longer front to back.

Testing on my anamorphic lens currently under construction went well though. I was just projecting on my living room wall (dark beige) just to get a feel of what it would be like. It only toom about 1 minute to set up the prisms. The picture was simply amazing. I was not sure what to expect but it surpassed all my expectations. I can only imaging what a nice Isco lens could produce.

I did however lose a little bit of focus but not so much it was an issue. I put in the Cars DVD to test it out. I was also projecting a 480P image with no scaling (old DVD player since I have not purchased any new equipment yet) so HD material will look much better. There were some stray reflections out the sides of the prisms but some electrical tape can take care of that. I did not notice any CA but I am really not sure if it was there or not. There was also some pincushioning but that is to be expected in my temporary test and the real setup will eliminate that.

But I was in awe of the overall image. Especially since I spent so little. When my wife came in I showed her what the lens did and she said WOW. I guess that means she liked the picture. I never realized what a 10' scope screen would look like, and even 16:9 material (XBOX 360) without the lens was plenty large enough for my kids. Turns out they get a screen big enough that they enjoy it and I get a BIGGER movie experience. hard to believe I almost didn't go through with it and stay with 16:9.

John

Well,

I got another layer of mud up in the basement tonight and this past Sunday. That makes the last layer. I'll really be glad when this part is over. I did not take any photos since mud is mud. Old photos will have to do. Mudding sucks BTW. I know I said it before but it really does.

I did however take a couple photos of my DIY anamorphic lens in progress. I still have not decided on going 2.35 yet so I purchased a couple prisms and thought I would give a DIY lens a try to see how I like it. Mind you, I am still projeting on my living room wall (dark beige) right now since the basement is not in any condition for equipment. The lens is just mocked up in front of the PJ for now.

My lens is still a work in progress. I made the initial housing before I mocked up the prisms so it is shorter than it need to be. Once I am satisfied with the overall geometry I will make a final housing out of 3/4" MDF and finish it nicely.

Here is a shot of the front of the lens


From the side


A screen shot


Sorry the pics are dark. I did not feel like getting the tripod out. Looks good so far. Even with SD DVDs with no upscaling, which is what is shown here. Some pincushion and keystone issues visible but with a mockup not bad at all. Once I get it in place permanently it may go away since my throw will be 17'. Screen shot is only 8' wide. My final screen will be 9'-6".

Let me know what you think.

Dark,

I got my prisms from Thunder Road Brandworks in Charlotte. Talk to Richard

Website is here

Cost was $97 including shipping to my house.

John

I did up a quick column render a few minutes ago to see how my design looks. I am building one similar to Ronnie Jackson but not arched. I needed a way to enclose a sconce within the column as well as hide the surrounds (Ascend HTM-200SE). The sconces actually have 9 square openings in them with frosted glass behind but I did not feel like modeling them this afternoon.

Here is a front view


Above and below the sconce will be a speaker fabric covered frame which should tie in nicely to my black lower walls.

Let me know what you think.

John

I spent some time this afternoon adding columns and such to my HT render. I still need to take a photo of the wall fabric and make a texture and add it to the walls but It is looking decent.

Here is a view from the rear just under the soffit from the PJ location.



And here is what I will see from the front center seat



Still a work in progress while I finish up taping and mudding. I should be priming by Wed. of next week and painting the following weekend. Then I will be laying laminate in all the areas except the HT. Once laminate and carpet in the HT is down I will make the columns and get the fabric on the walls.

Home stretch baby!

John

Dave,

The carpet will be darker. I threw a lighter carpet in the renders for more bounced light so I did not have to crank up the lighting settings. Once I am ready to render out finals I will put the proper carpet color (dark blue or dark green) color and make new ones.

Here is the carpet/wall fabric color combination my wife and I both like. Black fabric on bottom, wood rail between colors and as trim top and bottom of wall. Diamond pattern on upper wall.



Your sconces look good to. How do you like your HTM-200s? I am really looking forward to getting the speakers (340s LCR, and 200s on side and rear surrounds). About 2 months from purchasing them.

John

Dave,

Glad to hear it. I am tossing around the idea of not getting the 340s and going with 170s for LCR. I read some reviews today and given that this room is only 11' wide and 19' long 340s may be overkill. 170s would be quite a bit easier on the budget as well.

Funny you should mention music. My music of choice for construction is classic rock, especially groups like Boston and Rush. Sometimes I actually listen to stuff like the Cure and even have gone as far as listening to Debbie Gibson LOL Man I am showing my age and era.

John

Here are a couple updated renders showing a basic material on the walls. I did not take a photo of the real fabric last night so I spent 5 minutes and made a JPEG material and applied it to the wall

Here is looking down the HT again with the material on the wall



An another shot looking at the wall.



The real material looks a lot better in person than my fake material does but you get the idea.

Well, yesterday was a productive day. I finally finished mudding (only some minor sanding in the hallway) and got my primer up in the whole basement other than the small hallway. The wife and I did 2 coats on walls and ceilings in about 5 hours (my 5 yo daughter painted the bar fronts so she could help us). I used one of those Wooster double length rollers and it made a world of difference in time to get the coats on. Tomorrow I will finihs sanding the hallway and Thursday I will finish primer and move on to paint.

Here are a couple shots into the model railroad/wrestling room



Looking toward the bar and TV viewing area on the left




TV area



TV area from bar



Bar area



Into the full bath




And the bathroom floor



There are a couple areas on the ceiling that I need to touch up but overall I am very pleased with it. You may be able to see some joints on the ceiling in the photos that only appear under flash. In normal viewing I can not see them so it may be some minor shadowing. If I can't see them without flash I am not worried about them.

Also, my wife and In decided on laminate throughout except the HT. We are going with the Lumber Liquidators Nirvana V3. It has bevels on each side and comes in 3" wide planks. It will take a little longer to install but the look will be worth the extra time.

Here is what we chose



Let me know what you think. This weekend comes paint on the ceiling and we will probably start on the walls. Colors will be a tan wall, with the laminate floors, cabinetry will be yellow/gold like the stairwell, bar front beadboard will be barn red, shelving behind bar will be white, bar stools and bar rail/top will be ebony stained and epoxied/polyed, and all trim will be gloss white. My wife is also considering a denim sofa. Should make for a rather interesting color palette.

More to follow.

John