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jdavid,

Would it not be better just to use the TOSLINK out from your TV into the Receiver? That way any 5.1 input to the TV (Cable box, DVD, etc) will be output to the Receiver.

Where did you get the deal from? I bought mine for slightly more than that after rebate, and no gift card, but I can get a price adjustment or return the system by Jan. 25.

Yes, you would need to connect your cable or satellite box and DVD player by some sort of digital link to get DD5.1, or DTS data. My satellite box is not high def, so I only have 1 digital connection currently, so I use coax for my digital audio from my DVD player. I can't recall with certainty, but I believe the receiver takes at least 3 optical digital (TOSLINK) inputs, and maybe just one coax. So I'll need a TOSLINK cable as well when I switch my service to Comcast and get the HD box.

There's no functional difference between optical or coax cables if the connections stay tight and the cable lengths are reasonable. Some folks have had problems with optical cables falling out of the sockets from some devices though.

Thanks for the info PRECIS- didn't realize that would work with just 1 cable.

Circuit City this week is $360 after rebate, plus I had a 10% coupon (which you get from being a AAA member) and then you get a $25 gift card by mail if you purchase via the CC website.

"Once you see a HD program with the higher resolution with more than twice the picture area, your eyes quickly become HD addicts!"

See, this is sort of where I was going, too. I think a lot of the 'wow' factor isn't the improvement in resolution, it's the improvement in resolution (which is 'significant' but not incredible) multiplied by the fact that you get it on a much larger screen--and much, much more user control over your picture so you get it 'just right' for you and your viewing conditions.

As far as judging the effect by comparing SD and Hi Def on a 50" inch hi def screen, I don't think that's apples to apples. When you stretch SD to a 50" screen obviously the PQ goes backwards, so the 'difference' you see that way isn't as much as moving forward with hi def as that your SD have moved backwards so far.

Don't get me wrong, it all adds up to the same result, but I think the 'size' component of the equation in reality has much more weight and the resolution component has much less weight than we sort of intuitively think when we think 'hi def.'

And in some sort of minor way this all might actually matter when we're choosing between 42, 46, 50, or 55, etc. For example, if your sitting area allows you latitude to achieve the ideal 30 degree viewing cone with any of those sets, and if such things as SSE or SDE are a function of pixel spread, maybe it's possible that in the 'sweet spot' with a 42" you'd have less of those than in the 'sweet spot' with a 55".

I think the bottom line is as long as your screen allows you to sit at that ideal 30 degree point without seeing graininess then your picture is ideal. SD doesn't support that, obviously, but hi def does--and that's probably more a function of screen size than resolution, especially in the 16/9 world, which gives you 'free' width and is the arena where 'jaw dropping' can really come into play because now you can really envelop your eyes (and conciousness).

I would call the vendor and ask them to swap out with a new unit.

It happens, changing the channel will fix it also.

Well I got my first taste of HD last night. Get this, im in 43314, 40+ miles from the Columbus transmitters. Everyone tells me I'll need a large amplified array antenna on the roof. I went out looking for a large indoor\\outdoor tube sytle antenna. The guy at servex pretty much refused to sell me anything. I tried explaining the math to him, then I lied and told him my "buddy" lived about a mile away and had the antenna I was looking for and he got good reception, he still said it was impossible. He said he lived in the same area as me and could not get reception with anything but an array. I admire his service and unwillingness to sell me something I didnt need (in his mind) but to refuse to even let me look, jeeze.

So, I went to radio shack. They dont carry anything like im looking for, just set top and array. Not wanting to go away empty handed, and with a 30 day no ?'s return policy, I picked up a set top unit. Its basicaly rabit ears with a 12" circle in the middle, like an AWACS airplane, and the UHF antenna rotates in there.

I also stopped by walmart and picked up a phillips MANT940 amplified, boasting whatever db. Well I go home and plug in the RS unit, at first im dissapointed, think I cant find anything. I decided to put it on autoscan while I went to find a location for the Phillips. Came back to find the TV sitting on NBC 4.1 in HD . I also have CBS, WOSU-HD and FOX in HD, and several other digital channels. Turns out it was sheer luck, because moving the antenna even a bit will knock them off.

Well I got to looking and the MANT940, while it says is amplified and has a power injector, does not come with an amp!?! what a ripoff. Is there anypoint in trying this from the roof without an amp? Its probably 30+' at the eves

The RS unit comes with an RF remote for the rotator, so im thinking about just mounting it in the attic, I checked, the remote will reach it there. It would get it from 6" off the ground to about 25 and remove the whole house the signal has to get through to just one wall. The only problem with the RS unit is it just has 12 settings for rotation, so no real way to know the angle at which its pointing.

As far as HD on this TV, its nice, theres a definite quality diffrence, looks awesome on WOSU nature programs, but not so much that I would never go back to SD. I dont think I would be willing to pay more than $10 a month for the HD cable, though I would like Discovery-HD..

The only new drawback to the set is the lack of a signal meter for OTA antenna B'casts. That and it makes the N64 look like an atari...

Its internally amplified and gets its power through the coax, thats what the power injector is for.

-sean

Is anybody all that familiar with this. It seems that there is some disagreement as to whether or not it includes a bulb. i spent 250 for four years coverage at best Buy. That includes one bulb. At 150 for five years , the Sony plan would be obvious if it includes a bulb. Even if not, it probably still makes sense. The Sony terms say consumables not included, but I think the bulb could be argued either way.

Are there any other differences between the BB plan and Sony. i feel like BB will take care of almost anything if it goes wrong, but I'm not sure about Sony. Then again I'm not one to mistreat my TV. just worried about manufacturer defects mostly. Any third party plans I should look into.

Do I have to worry about burn-in on my kdf-50e2000?
I have my pc connected, and I play world of warcraft.
I don't want the menu bars to burn-in on the screen after long hours of play.

No burn-in concerns with LCD nor DLP, only burn-out concerns.

haha, thanks.

i browsed through the forums tho, and noticed that people say that it can still be possible on lcdrp's with a select few reports out there. and image retention is possible. so im thinking it may be smart ever so often to press alt-z and take away the GUI for a while.

Its no more possible than it would be on your LCD computer screen. Thats basicaly what is inside the TV, just 3 of them and much smaller. They are the same general technology though. And theres no way the light is going to cause a permanent image on the screen material no matter how long its on there.

I know it may not look as good as a CRT set, and it varies depending on providers, but could someone post some shots of an E2000 series showing SD programming? Also, theres no VGA port on the E2000 series and the 42 inch model was phased out by the 46" version right?

I have an LG Home Theater in a box 5 dvd/cd changer and it only pumps sound from the DVD player so I can only hear DVD/ cd or things from the receiver in surrond. I want to hook it up so that all sound from my tv is in surround sound I had that with my bose system but for some reason I cant get this set up to do it. I have a time warner HD/DVR box and I have the 46 in model

Are the only ways to hook a laptop up to the E2000 via the two HDMI ports? I'll be using one for my directv and the other for my DVD player so I might be messed up.

I think you are fogetting one main thing, your 32" Tube was 480i, and this is 720p so you are effectively doubling the amount of lines of resolution.... if it was only 720 and still interlaced you might have a point, but 720p is progressive and adds a smoothness to the image and detail that isnt there on a 480i TV.

so, doing the math, 480i *30 fps = 14400 lines per second 720p *60 = 43,200 lines per second

I didn't realize that--that SD was interlaced. You're right, in terms of PQ that would change everything.

I live on the seacoast of New Hampshire. Comcast supplied me with an HDMI cable for free. It is just as good as the $130 HDMI cable CC sells. I hate to tout Comcast, but my HD picture on the 55E2000 looks stunning. When I record Hi Def on their DVR, it looks stunning.

What would a good price to pay for a KDF-46E2000 ?

My local Sonystyle store has a deal going on. $1599 CAD (we talked him down from $1699) and it comes with the matching Sony stand for free. Free shipping as well. Offer expires Thursday.

Is it a good price ?

This is basically an impulse buy, I don't want to regret it

You can hook your laptop up if it has a DVI port, you need a DVI to HDMI cable. This is going to give you by far the best picture and functionality. The TV actualy acknoleges you have a computer hooked to it (at least it behaves diffrently).

If you do not have a DVI port, if you have an S-video port you could use that, dell laptops usualy have a dongle for this.

I paid a little less than that at the Brick a couple of weeks ago and it came with the stand. That price with the free stand and shipping is still a good deal though.

As far as antennas, you guys were right, the mant940 does have an internal amp, the instructions that came with it were just a little misleading. I put that up on the roof yesterday, probably a good 30' up. I do get 6 now, but weakly, I think the other channels have stronger signals now, as I was getting a little cut-out on fox before. Plus, now I dont have to worry about rotating the antenna.

Bottom line: both these antennas are suitable for ~40 given relatively open terrain, and strong signals. I think everyone is a little to conservative about what you cant get with a small amplified antenna.

Does anyone have codes for the remote other than what is listed in the instruction manual? I have a GPX DVD player and a Tivo I would like to control with it, or control the TV with the Tivo remote

It must be up to the local Comcast office. When they handed me the 5 cable component & audio bundle, I asked for an HDMI cable instead and they said I'd have to buy one. I'm in Indiana.

With a digital signal, you either get it or you don't. If you have a clean image, then the cable comcast provide is fine. If you has sparklies, or other noise, then the cable would be a problem. Doesn't sound like that's the case.

In general, you don't need to spend more than $10 for an HDMI cable. Many posters on this site would concur with that. For good prices on good quality generic cables, please check out monoprice.com. That's where I get all my cables now and I found out about them from other posters on this site. $130 dollars buys you a name brand, successful marketing, nice packaging, a pretty cable, and the same image quality as a $10 cable.

Fry's had a deal two weeks ago for the KDF-46E2000 for under a grand. HH greg for some reason had the 46-inch priced more than the 50-inch...did not understand why, but maybe it has to do with supply and demand.

you need to connect a digital audio cable from your cable box to an input on your LG HTIB then select that input when you watch cable.

Hi All,

I recently bought a 46e2000 and think its great. Currently I am using an XBOX 360 to play DVD's (just the console, not the HD add-on). I am considering buying an upconverting player, either the Sony NS75H or an Oppo.

I read through this thread, and it seems that some people rave about these upconverting DVD players and claim that they get near HD quality. And then there are others who claim that unpconversion will not improve the pricture for this TV, and a 480P player is the best option. I was wondering if anyone had any experience using the both the 360 player and either the sony or the oppo. Was there any noticeable PQ difference on this TV?

Did the 42 inch variant get phased out or something? Can't seem to find it at the usual places.