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cc let me order the 46e2000 for 1529.00 plus tax and free delivery.

the 2000 series units are now available on Bestbuy.com and Circuitcity.com for their MSRP's. I really wished I would have have been offered the chance to pickup the 46e2000 for 1525 yesterday. :

here's mine: xxxxxx

it looks pretty much identical to the A10

edit: huh, they wont let me post a link because i dont have 5 posts yet....

When I went in to Circuit City yesterday they had just received their 50E2000's that day, and didn't even have one on the floor. I asked them if I could see one and they unboxed it and set it up beside the 50A10. I bought the first one they sold. They delivered it the same day too. Actually that Circuit City has been really good to me.

there we go.

http://cfusionpm.com/setup

Sexy, I may have to call and see if they got them in today.

Here's mine (46E2000), sorry for the delay

http://flickr.com/photos/ckelly/sets/72157594193099338/

Interesting tidbit - I can't seem to change the Noise Reduction or DRC control settings when I am receiving an HD signal. Maybe I'm just missing a feature/ setting somewhere. Definitely looking forward to an e2000 tweeks guide.

I think the DRC and Noise Reduction is for non HD signals

Edit: Nice TV, I'm about to go to CC and see if they can preorder mine Have you had a chance to see if any of the current service menu codes work on this tv? Just in case we need to go poking around

Saw the 50 and 46 locally. They have a 50 set up at BB, CC and BrandsMart. 46 at BB. It looks the same as the a10 pq. My local CC said they will not carry the 46 b/c it does not exist. Sony doesn't make 46's. Liars! I talked BrandsMart down to $1560 for 50e2000 but really want the 46. BB has the 46 on sale for $1708 plus tax if anyone is interested. Also, in my markey (Atlanta) no one is discounting the A10 less than the e2000.

I didn't even know they made a 46". I wanted a 50". Because bigger is better. You can never go wrong with bigger. If I had room for a 60" I would have wanted that. (Plus I'd need a bigger tv stand). You will be happy with the 50".

By the way, I wouldn't discuss specific prices if I were you. As near as I can tell, discussing prices is forbidden.

Yeah, I am pretty sure they are for non HD as well, but I see that Noise Reduction is set to Auto, instead of explicitly being off, wasn't sure if it meant it would be off in HD cases or not...

The remote codes to get into the service menu work, but I think a lot of the names of the settings in there have changed, as I haven't seen any of the ones that were mentioned for Red Push/ Greyscale. I'll wait for the pros to mess around (or at least those a little more daring) before I muck with those

Just an FYI for those that, like me, were on the fence between the E2000 and the A10 series for quite a while. It appears that Sony has greatly restricted the action of the Advanced Iris in the E2000 series sets (strangely in the more expensive A2000 series as well ). Instead of having both an "Iris" and "Advanced Iris" control on the E2000s, these two adjustments have been melded into just "Advanced Iris". The automatic nature of the Advanced Iris on the A10 series has instead been changed to just "Auto 1" and "Auto 2" on the E2000s. Likewise, with the A10s, you could specify both "0-5" settings for the Iris itself (with no automatic readjustment), and then "Off-Low-Medium-High" for the Advanced (automatic) Iris along with each standard Iris level "0-5". On the E2000 though, both of these controls seem to have been combined into "Advanced Iris" (now on the main menu), and feature just "Auto 1, Auto 2, Low, Medium, High, Off".

The only reason I could see for this change is that Sony was under the impression that the users were confused by the previous (more tunable) method. I must say I'm not a fan of Sony's trend this year of dumbing down last years product line.

Also, yes, DRC only applies to SD material. However, on the A10s at least, "Noise Reduction" should still be selectable for HD material. Not sure why that would've changed at all.

cc is carrying the 46e2000 i was there today and they have 350 of them in their main wharehouse.i will be recieving my 46 on saturday.

I ordered mine today as well, picked it up for 1529 w/ free delivery it was the same price as their 42a10 they had 48 in the "local" socal wherehouse. I should get it within 1 week

I have cancelled my 55E2000 order with Sony and have a 50A10 on the way from Vann's. If anyone is interested, they have the 50A10 in stock bundled with the NS75 DVD player for $1,750 with free delivery. Mine is scheduled for delivery on 10/12, and Time Warner is coming out to do the Digital Cable on 10/13.

I don't miss the advanced iris settings on my 50E2000. I played around with the settings in Custom (seems like there are a surprising amount of options there) and determined that Auto 2 looks the best. I put Black Corrector on Low, Gamma on Low, with Clear White and Color Corrector set Off. I have no idea what most of these things are supposed to do, I just went by what looks the best to me, and that is what I came up with. In a way I guess I am kind of glad there isn't one more setting for me to mess around with. But the tinkerer in me wonders what I am missing.

As it is, the blacks look terrific to me. I watched Blade and Underworld on TNT HD the other night, which are both black-heavy movies. They looked fabulous.

10/12 :| you sir, are very patient.

What are your other Picture Menu settings set to?

just curious for tweaking settings

perhaps it's time to start the E2000 tweeks thread...

Assuming that nothing's really changed in the implementation, a good place to start with the advanced settings under Custom would be Black Corrector set to "Off" (with it on there is considerable black crush on the A10s, I imagine the E2000 is the same. This is of course a personal choice, but you definitely lose a lot of shadow detail with Black Corrector on at all), Gamma on "Max" (REALLY improves the contrast levels), and Clear White and Color Corrector both set to "Off".

tmeader, I set Gamma to Max and it really does make a big improvement. Setting Black Corrector to Off seems to really wash out my blacks though. Is there something I can do to counter this? Setting Gamma to Max actually did reduce the level to which the blacks were washed out, but there is definitely a difference between Black Corrector Low and Off. I'm willing to accept some black crush for the truer blacks if I have to. Unless there is something else I can do.

Here are my settings, hopefully these are reasonable.

Custom, Advanced Iris 2, Picture 60, Brightness 60, Color 50, Hue 0, Color Temp Warm 2, Sharpness Min, Black Corrector Off, Gamma Max, Clear White Off, Color Corrector Low. This is for HD, I have all different THX settings for DVD.

Like I said, it comes down to a personal choice really. Sadly, I'm not sure what "Auto 2" does as far as the Advanced Iris is concerned on the E2000s. I wish Sony wouldn't have changed the amount of control you had over it... so pointless. I can say that, while slightly more washed out on mine with the Black Corrector Off, the loss of REALLY deep black is worth it to me to be able to see all the shadow detail that is otherwise lost. At the same time, on the A10, with the Iris set to "1" and the Advanced Iris set to "Low", even with Black Corrector Off the blacks are still pretty good. Only other thing I'll mention is that the Picture and Brightness seem a little off to me. You might want to start with Picture at at LEAST 70, and go slightly up or down from there. As for Brightness, 60 seems a little high. I think something in the low 50's is more accurate, at least for the A10 (that should help out with the blacks when the Black Corrector is Off as well).

The main thing here is that people are used to their TV's being set WAY to bright (which only serves to wash out the black level). Though it might seem odd at first, make your TV a little dimmer with these tweaks and give it some time.

Coming from the CRTRP and plasma world, I am used to tempering my use of Picture (contrast). I know I don't have to fear burn-in, but do any of these settings affect the life of the bulb? Also I assume there is no break-in process with these sets. Mostly I'm concerned that having Picture and Brightness too high will negatively affect the bulb life.

Best buy pm'd the CC price above for the 46 inch. I tried to fit it in my Envoy and it wouldn't fit. They are delivering it on Wednesday. I will post pics when I get it.

avjeff, nothing picture-wise will effect bulb life at all. The bulb has no brightness levels of its own, it's merely on or off. Brightness of the picture is controlled totally through the Iris and the picture settings. Like I said though, try lowering the brightness a tad and likewise upping the contrast, might help.

Course, if you prefer the look of Black Corrector on Low... not against the law to keep it on, just my preference not to. If you like it, definitely use it.

wow. I just finished setting this tv up today. wow we have it next to the sammy 5086w dlp, and wow. it looks just as good or better. very impressed. though i can't find a noise reduction method? (Component cables on HD)

anything anyone want me to play with settings wise, just to clear things up??

For anyone that purchased the 50e2000 for MSRP of CircuitCity.com has the TV now on sale. Might be an oppurtunity to price match.

please dont mention pricing unless its purely msrp. I enjoy this thread.

edited for content. Thx!

My 50E2000 manual says it has a QAM tuner which will allow me to receive unscrambled digital television via cable. Does this mean that I cannot use an over the air antenna to receive local HD signals?