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post #121 of 4686
6/22/06 at 3:21pm
Toslink Optical audio sux... coax is much better for running distances and cheaper, longer cables.

Shame on Hitacahi for putting optical audio output and no coax output.
Now I need to install a coax one myself!
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post #122 of 4686
6/22/06 at 3:54pm
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Originally Posted by Wytchone View Post

Say do you guys have a receiver and if so how do you get the sound from your DVD player if you use HDMI to connect to your TV?

Your DVD player will still output sound from its digital outputs, i.e., digital coax or digital fiber connection, when it is outputting through HDMI. So, just hook the DVD players digital audio cable to the receiver as usual.
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post #123 of 4686
6/22/06 at 3:56pm
I've heard that this TV doesn't actually have a bulb, but it uses "guns"? The guy at CC was telling me that this reduces the average life span on the TV.

If I were to buy a warranty for this, would I get one for bulb replacement or just a regular warranty? (Like from tapeworks texas?)

Thanks,

Sam
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post #124 of 4686
6/22/06 at 4:06pm
Also one more question, sorry

I'm really only planning on watching DVDs on this thing (I have the Toshiba HD-A1). Maybe some HD channels and such, but mainly just DVDs and some gaming here and there (gamecube). If i calibrate it myself via AVIA, will the PQ be great?

Anything else I consider while buying this TV? I'm getting the 51f59a TV just for viewing distance.

Thanks in advance!

Sam
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post #125 of 4686
6/22/06 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by sambow87 View Post

I've heard that this TV doesn't actually have a bulb, but it uses "guns"? The guy at CC was telling me that this reduces the average life span on the TV.

Thanks,

Sam

HAHAHA...breath...HAHAHAHAH

CRT-RP last a LONG time. Wife had one 6+ years, Her father 20, my Dad is going on 10.

He (cc rep) was very mis-informed. I would get a 1 to 2 year to make sure you are fine if any issues arise but honestly for $1k if you get 2 years out of it you can buy another set later.

PS if you calibrate it yourself you will get a good PQ. I had to do mine myself do the lack of ISF techs in the area (im near New Orleans) and im very happy with the PQ.
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post #126 of 4686
6/22/06 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by sambow87 View Post

If I were to buy a warranty for this, would I get one for bulb replacement or just a regular warranty? (Like from tapeworks texas?)

Thanks,

Sam

1)No Bulbs so you will not need any bulb replacement warranty

2) The guy at CC was feeding you a load of bull-crap. RP CRT's have a very very long life-span. Sounds to me like he's trying to sell you a DLP/LCD at twice the cost.

3) CRT's are the best for HD channels and DVDs movies

4) Calibrating yourself with AVIA, will get you a good to great PQ

5) I'm not a gamer, so I can't go there.
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post #127 of 4686
6/22/06 at 4:25pm
Awesome. Sounds good, so you would reccommend getting the CC EW? or would you get one from online (such as tapework texas, the mack warranties)?

Good to know that I can calibrate it myself and get a very nice PQ. I'd love to see my HD DVD player on this, hehe!

Thanks again!
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post #128 of 4686
6/22/06 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by sambow87 View Post

I've heard that this TV doesn't actually have a bulb, but it uses "guns"? The guy at CC was telling me that this reduces the average life span on the TV.

If I were to buy a warranty for this, would I get one for bulb replacement or just a regular warranty? (Like from tapeworks texas?)

Thanks,

Sam


only if the 'gun' has bullets in it and you are shooting the TV.

most store reps are retards (not all, but most) - they only "know" what they read in the shiny literature they are given with the TVs or what they are told by the TV manufacture reps to push/sell.

NEVER listen to them... don't even let them talk. Do your research and know exactly what you want before you go into the store.

they all "think" DLP has a better picture, they also "think" DLP/LCD/etc is better technology... they are all WRONG.

as for the EW...
I decided not to get one since I will likely get a new TV in 2 years. No need for the warranty. Just judge yourself depending on your situation.
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post #129 of 4686
6/22/06 at 5:19pm
Well, I am covered for atleast 1 year correct? without the EW?

Also, how long are these tv's supposed to last without having to replace anything (or are you supposed to replace something?)

I also find it kind of hard to pay 1/4 - 1/2 the cost of the TV for an EW.

Thanks again!
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post #130 of 4686
6/22/06 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by sambow87 View Post

Well, I am covered for atleast 1 year correct? without the EW?

Also, how long are these tv's supposed to last without having to replace anything (or are you supposed to replace something?)

I also find it kind of hard to pay 1/4 - 1/2 the cost of the TV for an EW.

Thanks again!

Hitachi's warranty is 1 year parts and labor. The EW can pay for itself in just one service call.

Kept in good condition, it should last 6 to 10 yrs. You're going to replace a lot of arc lamps on the new technology at around $200.00 each during that time.
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post #131 of 4686
6/22/06 at 8:41pm
Kept in good condition, it should last 6 to 10 yrs. You're going to replace a lot of arc lamps on the new technology at around $200.00 each during that time.[/quote]
yes if you take care of your rear projection crt tv then it should last along time. i have a 1993 toshiba 48 rptv. i have taken very good care of it ( clean the mirror,lens, ect.) don't have the brightness and contrast turned way up. the tv is 13 years old and still has a pretty darn good pic for a standard definition tv. i would say it has more then 40,000+ hours on it. i still use it about every night to play my ps2 and have the news on while checking e-mail down in the basement. take care of the set and it will last along time!
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post #132 of 4686
6/23/06 at 6:37am
What's the difference between the 57F59 and the 57F59A?
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post #133 of 4686
6/23/06 at 6:40am
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Originally Posted by JasonBrown View Post

What's the difference between the 57F59 and the 57F59A?

The color, A is for "Ash", S is silver and no color code is all black i think
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post #134 of 4686
6/23/06 at 7:35am
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Originally Posted by abarajame View Post

The color, A is for "Ash", S is silver and no color code is all black i think

not really, i think it's more for the stores that sell them so one store has an A at the end and another store has it without one. that way stores like cc you have alot harder time trying to price match with a store like hhgregg or sears. they probably ask the manufacture to ad a letter just for this purpose. as far as difference between let's say 57f59 and 57f59A thats the only difference. like i said i think it's just a gimmick to try and stop the price match.
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post #135 of 4686
6/23/06 at 9:21am
Hello,
I've had the 57F59 for 3 weeks now. I've encountered a weird issue. I did the 117 point convergence last week. A couple of days later, I thought I'd go into it again to check, and was surprised to see that it had degraded significantly since my last adjustment. So I adjusted the 117 point convergence again, only to find a few days later that it had degraded again.
Has anyone else encountered this?
I did 117 point cos the Magic-Focus automatic convergence wasnt satisfactory.
I'd like to know soon if its a problem with my set so that I could get it swapped if required.
Thanks.
Mehul
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post #136 of 4686
6/23/06 at 10:59am
it shouldn't be going out of convergence that soon. have you moved the tv at all, had anything on top of the tv like a speaker? any non shielded speakers close to the tv? also did you hit done/save once before you exited out of the 117 point convergence. you have to hit done or it won't save it and also if you hit the magic focus it will put it back to factory convergence setting. if none of these are the cause then something has to be causing it to go out. like i said if you have none of the things i mentioned as the cause and your still in your 30 days (most places) you just have them exchange it out for you. let us know.
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post #137 of 4686
6/23/06 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by mehulkapadia View Post

Hello,
I've had the 57F59 for 3 weeks now. I've encountered a weird issue. I did the 117 point convergence last week. A couple of days later, I thought I'd go into it again to check, and was surprised to see that it had degraded significantly since my last adjustment. So I adjusted the 117 point convergence again, only to find a few days later that it had degraded again.
Has anyone else encountered this?
I did 117 point cos the Magic-Focus automatic convergence wasnt satisfactory.
I'd like to know soon if its a problem with my set so that I could get it swapped if required.
Thanks.
Mehul

200hour break in period it is normal for convergence and color settings to change drastically.
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post #138 of 4686
6/24/06 at 5:56am
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post #139 of 4686
6/24/06 at 7:59am
Does the 51f59 introduce any game lag on 1080i (Xbox 360 in optional mode) or 480i (older consoles) inputs? Can very time sensitive games (fighting games, dancing games, some sniping games) still be played with accuracy?
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post #140 of 4686
6/24/06 at 8:39am
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Originally Posted by thebigdaddye View Post

it shouldn't be going out of convergence that soon. have you moved the tv at all, had anything on top of the tv like a speaker? any non shielded speakers close to the tv? also did you hit done/save once before you exited out of the 117 point convergence. you have to hit done or it won't save it and also if you hit the magic focus it will put it back to factory convergence setting. if none of these are the cause then something has to be causing it to go out. like i said if you have none of the things i mentioned as the cause and your still in your 30 days (most places) you just have them exchange it out for you. let us know.

thebigdayye,
Havent moved the TV at all, and nothing on top of it. I dont have any other speakers in the room. The only thing I have close to the TV is the DVR cable box, dvd player and VCR and nothing on top of the TV.
I also hit DONE after doing the 117 pt convergence.
Can you do your 117 pt and check it after a couple days?
Thanks.
Mehul
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post #141 of 4686
6/24/06 at 8:54am
Can you do your 117 pt and check it after a couple days?
Thanks.
Mehul[/quote]
yes just go into the 117 pt like you usually do ,but don't do anything. look at it and see if it's moved then just hit exit which brings up the screen to save/cancel or erase. just hit done or cancel. unless of course you want to make changes. you may want to just let it get some more hours on it like Ballz2TheWallz said, but i wouldn't think it would go out of converg that much, but then again i'm not a tech. if you got it from cc then just have them exchange it out as long as your in your 30 days they will. i actually checked mine last night after about a week of 117 pt and it was spot on. of course i have had my tv about 4 weeks
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post #142 of 4686
6/25/06 at 10:46am
Hey, I am new to all of this and I think I will be purchasing this TV for my new condo. I had a couple questions though. Should I get a digital cable box that has the HDMI cable hookup? Also, how hard is it to set up the configurations to make the picture look better? I really don't understand what you guys are talking about to do it. Xbox 360 is the only thing I plan on hooking up to this, besides maybe a surround sound system. What other cables should I purcahse? I am just trying to get a feel for everything I will have to buy. Thanks.
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post #143 of 4686
6/25/06 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by gregg1704 View Post

Hey, I am new to all of this and I think I will be purchasing this TV for my new condo. I had a couple questions though. Should I get a digital cable box that has the HDMI cable hookup? Also, how hard is it to set up the configurations to make the picture look better? I really don't understand what you guys are talking about to do it. Xbox 360 is the only thing I plan on hooking up to this, besides maybe a surround sound system. What other cables should I purcahse? I am just trying to get a feel for everything I will have to buy. Thanks.

HDMI cable box is optimal, from what i have heard motorola boxes have poor analog signals compared to there digital(when the guy come with a cable box, ask for one with HDMI, or you can look into specific models with DVR and stuff)
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post #144 of 4686
6/25/06 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by AVBill View Post

Does the 51f59 introduce any game lag on 1080i (Xbox 360 in optional mode) or 480i (older consoles) inputs? Can very time sensitive games (fighting games, dancing games, some sniping games) still be played with accuracy?

I have a xbox 360 set on 1080i, and there is absolutly no lag. Not sure about other consoles in SD though, sorry.
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post #145 of 4686
6/26/06 at 10:47am
My 57F59 came yesterday. DirecTV left today. I used Lee Bailey's settings to start, with the sharpness turned up to 60 (will this hurt the unit?). I was able to catch the end of the soccer game and all I can say is WOW! Easily better than DLP, LCOS, LCD, etc. I feel like I just got away with stealing something. I paid a 1/4 of what I was going to pay for the Samsung.

I have my DirecTV and upscaling Sony DVD player going into my Sony surround via HDMI. I then go from the from the surround to the TV with ONE HDMI. There is no lag. The picture and sound are amazing.

One question: when should I do an Auto Focus and/or 117 point convergence?

Thanks to everyone on here for your help with settings, etc.
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post #146 of 4686
6/26/06 at 12:25pm
[ when should I do an Auto Focus and/or 117 point convergence?
Thanks to everyone on here for your help with settings, etc.[/quote]
do the magic focus after the tv is on for atleast 20 to 30 minutes. as far as 117 point i would wait until atleast 100 hours for the tv to set in. otherwise it may move some out of converg. and you will have to do it over again. once 100+ hours do the 117 pt and it should be good to go for a long time as long as you don't move it or anything like that. congrats i have the same set and i feel the same as you. the picture to me is as good or better then anything out now once the tv is set up correctly. enjoy! i forgot if you have the sharpness that high it won't hurt the tv. the only settings you have to watch are contrast and brightness. try to keep around 55% or less. i have mine set at contrast 38% and brightness 50%.
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post #147 of 4686
6/28/06 at 6:01am
When I have my DVD player or my satellite box hooked into my TV via HDMI, about every 4 hours the picture "freaks out" on me. It goes blue, or green or blank. Does anyone else have this issue? I am having a service tech come and check it out. Is this because HDMI is relatively new technology?

Since you can't set Virtual HD in HDMI mode (it stays at 1080i), I hooked up some component cables for SD. My satellite box has these settings: 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i. I set the box to stretch and the TV on standard 16:9. Any recommendations on which combination to use to get the best SD picture? For HD and DVD I am using the HDMI in 1080i mode.
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post #148 of 4686
6/28/06 at 7:22am
First of all, I wanted to Thank the contributors of this forum on the advice I have been gleaning for the past couple of weeks. I had wanted a few opinions about the new technology out with the pros and cons of each. I had a 42" LG HD Plasma monitor I purchased a couple of years ago, but we just bought a new house and the 42 is just too small for the living room. After hearing the praises of the Hitachi CRT projection sets, I purchased a 57F59 last night. I wanted the 65F59 and got them down to $1350 on that one, but when I actually had them write up the order, the five they had in the warehouse had been sold. I could have taken the floor model, but I worry about transporting it W/O a box. So I bought the 57F59 for $1050. They also did not have a HDMI cabel in-stock, so they knocked off another $50 so I could pick up one on the way home. So basically I got a 57" for $1000+Tx. Since I told the salesman (who used to work for me years ago) that I didn't know if the 57 was large enough, he said to try it and if it isn't he will exchange it for a 65" when they get them back in stock (2-3 weeks). (Yes, he did note this on the order!).

Again, thanks for the tips and I am sure I will be posting again!

Dan
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post #149 of 4686
6/28/06 at 8:41am
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Originally Posted by KrusenM5 View Post

First of all, I wanted to Thank the contributors of this forum on the advice I have been gleaning for the past couple of weeks. I had wanted a few opinions about the new technology out with the pros and cons of each. I had a 42" LG HD Plasma monitor I purchased a couple of years ago, but we just bought a new house and the 42 is just too small for the living room. After hearing the praises of the Hitachi CRT projection sets, I purchased a 57F59 last night. I wanted the 65F59 and got them down to $1350 on that one, but when I actually had them write up the order, the five they had in the warehouse had been sold. I could have taken the floor model, but I worry about transporting it W/O a box. So I bought the 57F59 for $1050. They also did not have a HDMI cabel in-stock, so they knocked off another $50 so I could pick up one on the way home. So basically I got a 57" for $1000+Tx. Since I told the salesman (who used to work for me years ago) that I didn't know if the 57 was large enough, he said to try it and if it isn't he will exchange it for a 65" when they get them back in stock (2-3 weeks). (Yes, he did note this on the order!).

Again, thanks for the tips and I am sure I will be posting again!

Dan

You should be good to go if the 57inch is not big enough since you had the manager write it down that it was ok to exchange. i did the same thing at cc because i wanted the 57inch and i got the 51 at the time. thing was they told me they were only going to carry the 51inch ,but then a week or two later they said they were getting the 57 and 65 so i had a manager approve an exchange after 30 days. as long as it's in writing they will honor it ( i exchanged mine after like 36 days so i know they wil). i love the 57f59 and i'm glad i went with the bigger set in the long run (plus i got it for only $63.00 difference after price match! : ). congrats on your new purchase and enjoy!
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post #150 of 4686
6/28/06 at 11:07am
My 57 inch doesn't look as good as the 51 inch, whats up with that? I had the 51 inch for three weeks before exchanging it for the 57 inch. Everything seemed to look better on the 51 inch what could be the cause of this? I have SD Cable (coax cable) and an inexspensive DVD player hooked through component cables.
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