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post #151 of 302
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Sorry guys, been busy.

Ktak I ran the player 1080i and 720p and they both looked about the same. I will try to post some pics tonight or tomorrow.

I PICKED UP THE FIFTH ELEMENT ON BLU RAY TODAY!!! I FINALLY GOT A MOVIE!!
post #152 of 302
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Originally Posted by Tonypaul
ts. But what you all are really saying is; that a thousand bucks is too much for you. However for those of us CE fetishist, or those with loads of disposable income, not so
Also, those of us who have CC credit cards that haven't been used in years with loads of credit on them! :D
post #153 of 302
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Originally Posted by zalahmar
Going by your arguments DVD should be a dead format. DVD Players debuted at $1000 price point if you don't recall.
Yes, but you seem to have forgotten or ignore the simple fact that back then there wasn't another format with similar features for half the price!!
post #154 of 302
I asked in othe threads but can this player do 1080P60 and 1080P24?
post #155 of 302
2 of my local BB would not sell till Sunday. Stopped by a 3rd one and looked around the dvd players and there 2 in a stack of other brand dvd players. Looked around to see none of the employees came over, snatched one and went to long way around to pay. The cashier gave a $50.00 gift card on the stop for the purchase and another $100.00 will be mailed to me through reward zone. All in all, $850.00 plus tax, can't beat that.

Now lets see how it performs.

Ian B
post #156 of 302
When I look at the titles that are either currently available (HD DVD) or announced in either format, I wouldn't pay $1000 if the actors showed up at my house and performed the movies for me.

Most of this stuff is either fluff or material that has been out in a high def format via cable for some time. The entry price is a bit much to conclude that the DVD version looks about the same/a bit better, or/a bit worse than what you remember seeing on cable or sat.

With the combination of weak initial release, high prices, and limited player availability in both formats, I smell a repeat of the SACD/DVD-A fiasco.

I don't believe either the BD or HD DVD camps see this as a mainstream product. DVDs are just too integrated into the marketplace and the quality difference in the HD formats won't be appreciated by the majority of people.

Having seen HD DVD, I appreciate the improvement in pq that it brings to the table. BR will likely be identical. I also find that my inexpensive upconverting DVD player does magic with many SD DVDs, and the availability of choices in that meduim is excellent.

I wish both the BD and HD DVD camps put more emphasis on their respective formats. An abundance of players and software that people want to see would have gotten this format war going strong. Right now, once you get beyond the hard core enthusiast group, you'll find people not buying in because of price; others due to inability to get the players, and others who won't buy players until their is something worth watching in the chosen format.

Adding all these groups up means more people not buying than buying. With a small market, the studios won't see this as worthy of putting money into and both will likely fold their tents due to perceived lack of interest.
post #157 of 302
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Originally Posted by BenDover
well, i'll give you the benefit of the doubt, as you don't know me or my gear or maybe even my posts of fairly recently, like yesterday. i have plenty of disposable income and i dispose of it quite frequently and effectively on all sorts of 'toyz' since i live by the male motto, he who dies wuth the most toys wins!

but really, that is besides the point. i did not say that i couldn't afford to dispose of 1,000 (i did, as i posted yesterday, i have one on preorder from bb and am so impatient and impulsive that i am looking to find it somewhere where i can walk out with it) but that most people will not be willing to part with that much money for a ce device. so these things are not going to fly off the shelf beyond the small number of fetishists that exist.

and even still, yes i think that 1,000 for these 1G machines is too much, regardless of the fact that i can easily blow it...i spent that much on an 8 ft bean bag!

but in general i understand what you are saying, it just isn't an appropriate response to my observation which has nothing to do with the few elitists.
Don't be so quick to give me the benefit of the doubt. Although in your case I should have said. "That there is something psychologically daunting about one thousand for you". I mean the whole point of my post is about personal responsibility.
I did not state or imply that you could not afford a thousand, my point being, that your (plural your, meaning you and several others) using your point of view as a barometer for what is sensible or appropriate for others.

btw, I have always considered my self an "Elitist
post #158 of 302
whoa.
post #159 of 302
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Originally Posted by Robert D
Two BD players in stock hmm could be just like HD DVD with stores getting only small allocations.
at a grand a pop i'm sure they only wanted to bring in a few units to test the waters
post #160 of 302
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Originally Posted by Tonypaul
Don't be so quick to give me the benefit of the doubt. Although in your case I should have said. "That there is something psychologically daunting about one thousand for you". I mean the whole point of my post is about personal responsibility.
I did not state or imply that you could not afford a thousand, my point being, that your (plural your, meaning you and several others) using your point of view as a barometer for what is sensible or appropriate for others.

btw, I have always considered my self an "Elitist
*sigh*

when i comment here or anywhere i have enough sensibility to realize that my views/financial situation are in the vast minority so i speak i terms of the vast majority. psychologically daunting for the vast majority...

an elitist world is very small so again these aren't going to fly off the shelves...

i'm done here...peace
post #161 of 302
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Originally Posted by BenDover
*sigh*

when i comment here or anywhere i have enough sensibility to realize that my views/financial situation are in the vast minority so i speak i terms of the vast majority. psychologically daunting for the vast majority...

an elitist world is very small so again these aren't going to fly off the shelves...

i'm done here...peace
ok.... although I am left wondering why you would choose to speak for the vast majority on a half vast forum.
post #162 of 302
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Originally Posted by BenDover
Unfortunately, there are just too many identical reports to come in to discount this, it seems that each BB is only getting 2 players...that's one less than they each got of HD DVD players!!! Seems as though Samsung was blowing smoke, unless they stock up the CC stores better...here's to wishful thinking :(
Just left the BB by my house where they were setting up the display and had 15 players sitting on the floor. All but 12 have been sent to three other stores. I am not buying one. So I could care less.
post #163 of 302
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Originally Posted by RussTC3
Will the Samsung Blu-ray player (or the Sony and any others for that matter) be available at Wal-Mart/Target/Costco? You know, those types of stores?
Doubtful. If you look at the average Wal-Mart/Target/Costco shopper, they aren't savvy enough to know about Blu-ray, let alone spend $1000 on a player.

HD DVD is an easier sell at $500 and there's less confusion when it comes to backwards compatibility. $500 is the magic number.... until BD players hit that number, you won't see them at those type of retailers.
post #164 of 302
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Originally Posted by paintit77
Just left the BB by my house where they were setting up the display and had 15 players sitting on the floor. All but 12 have been sent to three other stores. I am not buying one. So I could care less.
holy batman!
post #165 of 302
Hmmm... is it interesting that 15 are sitting on the floor and no one wants to buy them yet?
post #166 of 302
I think $299 is the magic number, but $500 is definitely closer...
post #167 of 302
Here is a link to a review at Cnet.com of the P-1000 that might be of some intrest to some of you!

http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7...?tag=cnetfd.sd
post #168 of 302
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Originally Posted by bbfn11
Here is a link to a review at Cnet.com of the P-1000 that might be of some intrest to some of you!

http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7...?tag=cnetfd.sd
Looking good. It certainly is interesting that his unit came with Memento. I like his comments about the 1080p.

Regardless of who I support more (leaning more towards HD DVD because of price) I love new hardware launches! :D
post #169 of 302
Not telling everyone here something but this is key to know if ya don't:

"1080i vs. 1080p was a wash. Much ado has been made of the fact that Blu-ray players can output 1080p resolution while first-generation HD-DVD players, namely the Toshiba HD-A1 and its ilk, can output "only" 1080i. I've said before that it's nearly impossible to tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p sources on a 1080p HDTV, and after the following test, I feel even more confident that 1080p output capability is overrated."
post #170 of 302
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Originally Posted by bbfn11
Here is a link to a review at Cnet.com of the P-1000 that might be of some intrest to some of you!

http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7...?tag=cnetfd.sd
bbfn11, thanks for posting that link! Good article.

Although the load times he's reporting are longer for the Samsung than have been reported here, but then again so was his HD-DVD load time...I never had to wait 90 seconds for my HD-A1! Not sure what that's about.

It's refreshing to see a fair comparison between the players and formats. And I like the way he acknowledges that the "pros" of the Samsung were probably put back to an "even" status with the firmware upgrade to the HD-A1.

I was hoping threads like this would be more like this article. When HD-DVD came out, there was talk about audio/HDMI problems, settings, WOW factors, bugs, upconversion, comparison's to SD, etc... So far since the Samsung's hit the street, these threads have all been just petty bickering about pricing.
post #171 of 302
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i live by the male motto, he who dies wuth the most toys wins!
:lol: ... and u are the type of boy that 'toy' companies love the most ;)
post #172 of 302
Whats up with the line from the CNET review saying that every player is going to have a copy of Memento and A Demo disc? I take it this is not hapening or will on the next batch?

The first few reports make no mention of this..
post #173 of 302
I work at Target (for the moment, I hope to get hired at BestBuy so I can quit at that crappy job), and I can say we will NOT be doing anything Blu-Ray until the PS3 is out. This info came directly from the manager in charge of teh electronics portion.
post #174 of 302
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Originally Posted by rdjam
Hmmm... is it interesting that 15 are sitting on the floor and no one wants to buy them yet?

I reported yesterday when the players was arriving that the local BB has 2. Todat I was back to check out for any demo display...only to find no display or demo whatsoever. In fact there is still two players there just before closing time.

The Toshiba is still nowhere to be found. The sales guy said there is good demand for the Tosh and no one knows about the Blu-ray players they have yet. Part of the reason I observed was that the boxes was among the regular upconverted DVD players with similar appearance. This Samsung release if by far worse than Toshiba.
post #175 of 302
To say that the Samsung release is worse then the toshiba is just wrong for the simple reason the Samsung has not been released yet, there have been MANY reports that the displays at BB's are sitting in the back and ready to come out front for the launch. I think Sony is far ahead of toshiba as far as marketing, but it does seem the quality of these single layer BD are not up to snuff compared to the dual layer HD-DVD's but I do hope that Sony gets the R&D in motion and gets the dual layer VC-1 discs out ASAP as this is where the BD will shine. >;)
post #176 of 302
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Originally Posted by aydu
When I look at the titles that are either currently available (HD DVD) or announced in either format, I wouldn't pay $1000 if the actors showed up at my house and performed the movies for me.
I'd pay $1,000 if Milla Jovovich showed up at my studio apartment dressed as Leeloo (you know, taped rags over the naughty bits) and started reading the phone book... but I'm weird that way! :D
post #177 of 302
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Originally Posted by Rob79
To say that the Samsung release is worse then the toshiba is just wrong for the simple reason the Samsung has not been released yet, there have been MANY reports that the displays at BB's are sitting in the back and ready to come out front for the launch. I think Sony is far ahead of toshiba as far as marketing, but it does seem the quality of these single layer BD are not up to snuff compared to the dual layer HD-DVD's but I do hope that Sony gets the R&D in motion and gets the dual layer VC-1 discs out ASAP as this is where the BD will shine. >;)
No, its not wrong at all. These players are out in front and totally available for purchase since yesterday. The MANY reports that have been posted pretty much concurs with my own observation. Don't take it personal, just understand this release IS worse than Toshiba. There is no software to go with it. How right can this be?
post #178 of 302
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Originally Posted by Head Shot
Don't take it personal, just understand this release IS worse than Toshiba. There is no software to go with it. How right can this be?
What is your complaint? That some stores messed up and sold the players 10 days before they were supposed to or that others didn't have software ready for those who weren't supposed to have players yet? Those who think, "People got the HD DVD player early and so it is the same as people getting the Samsung early" are wrong. Some of us got the HD DVD player about 4 days early. Here we are talking about 10 days early. And I personally don't think Samsung should get trashed for getting the players to the stores early or that the software guys should get trashed because some salespeople don't know what they are doing and sell these players before they are supposed to (I wasn't fortunate enough to find a clueless salesperson myself today :)).

Major complaints about a launch that is only supposed to be in the setup stages make me wonder about this place. It seems a little bit like sneaking into a wedding reception early and claiming that the organizers messed up because there is no cake out.

--Darin
post #179 of 302
Amen, Darin. Ridiculous to start raining on the parade before it is even supposed to be here... (Shows a bit of desperation from a certain camp...)
post #180 of 302
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain
I work at Target (for the moment, I hope to get hired at BestBuy so I can quit at that crappy job), and I can say we will NOT be doing anything Blu-Ray until the PS3 is out. This info came directly from the manager in charge of teh electronics portion.
BB is better?
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