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post #211 of 302
Question for any new owners, did the Samsung player include the Memento movie and a special demo disc that contained a few trailers and a Black Crowes concert?

Bill
post #212 of 302
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Originally Posted by nilsp
A few simple facts, that seems lost on a few people:

1) Blu-ray has not launched. To compare number of titles in the store NOW with what HD-DVD had is ridiculous. At least wait until the official launch date.

2) MPEG2 quality <> Blu-ray quality. That initial titles are released as MPEG2 should not be held against the Blu-ray format, come on, we KNOW studios are just waiting to get VC-1 titles out the door. Ie. picture quality will be very similar.

3) Initial titles quality <> Blu-ray quality. It is unfortunately very obvious that we're back in the double-triple-quadruple dipping game again. How they could use a different print/master of The Fifth Element on the Superbit and Blu-ray release escapes me. Just wrong! (That said, have no problems admitting that Sony have been and are a bit cocky in their marketing and speak of Blu-ray... It does seem VC-1 titles are better.) Bring on titles from non-Sony studios.

4) Bugs. All new CE devices of a certain complexity level WILL have bugs. ALL! Even $10,000 units do. It is impossible to avoid. Toshiba had/have it, Samsung do, Sony will, Pioneer will. A sad fact we'll have to get used to.

5) Related to 4. If you want to be a pioneer and be the first to get 1. gen products, don't expect perfection. "QA should have caught this...": See 4)

6) Trolls. They exist on both sides and will always rear their ugly heads. Ignore!

Question: Anyone with discs who've connected the Samsung to a 1080P display? Is the P all it is hyped up to be?
Feeling a tad touchy eh. BTW the Official release date -May 23rd.
post #213 of 302
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Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet
T,

HD DVD supports MPEG2 as well.
But NONE of the releases we are made to buy for HD DVD are in Mpeg2, are they? That's the point the rest of us get.
post #214 of 302
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Originally Posted by Head Shot
You don't understand my complaint?

What wedding are you talking about?

This is not about Samsung trashing. This is about releasing highly anticipated product that gets botched up. Regardless of the players involved. The last two months there was catcalls about Toshiba not selling it right, displaying it right, etc.

So how is this any different? None.

This time the only thing is that its worse. Not one movie along with the release. Not a display in sight to go with the sale product. Reread my previous post before declaring NOT understanding the point.
I went into both Best Buy and Circuit City today - not a sign of a single Samsung BR player, nor of any BR displays...
post #215 of 302
No sign of Sammy's here in Nocal as well (SF Area) ... with all the techheads here you would think this would be a high priority area for them.
post #216 of 302
So by "thousands", did Samsung mean -like- 2,000? :D
post #217 of 302
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Originally Posted by rdjam
But NONE of the releases we are made to buy for HD DVD are in Mpeg2, are they? That's the point the rest of us get.
A View from Space HD DVD is encoded with MPEG2.
post #218 of 302
My local BB has two on the shelf, for sale right now. They are currently sharing the same endcap as their pathetic HD-DVD display (NB: The display is pathetic, not the technology :) ). They didn't seem to know what the eventual display would look like, only that they would get the Samsung running on a display at some point.
post #219 of 302
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Originally Posted by T-Bone
My point still stands... any BD format can be compared to any HD-DVD format. That was my only point. If it's available, it can be compared/contrasted with another.

-T
Hear, hear! An absolutely correct and well thought out arguement!
post #220 of 302
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Originally Posted by Action378
Question for any new owners, did the Samsung player include the Memento movie and a special demo disc that contained a few trailers and a Black Crowes concert?

Bill
Based on the info by the CNET reviewer, every Sammy comes standard with the movie "Momento" in the box. (probably trying to give a little incentive because of the list price).
post #221 of 302
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Originally Posted by oshodi
Based on the info by the CNET reviewer, every Sammy comes standard with the movie "Momento" in the box. (probably trying to give a little incentive because of the list price).
And by the way, the CNET review of the new Sammy blu-ray player can be read here: http://reviews.cnet.com/Samsung_BD_P...2.html?tag=nav
post #222 of 302
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Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet
T,

HD DVD supports MPEG2 as well.
Based on the CNET review HD DVD supports MPEG-4
post #223 of 302
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Originally Posted by oshodi
And by the way, the CNET review of the new Sammy blu-ray player can be read here: http://reviews.cnet.com/Samsung_BD_P...2.html?tag=nav
These are editor comments from Cnet....and not an official review.
He had the player for 3 hours...and they have yet to even receive there review sample.
post #224 of 302
cnet is going to write a positive review of the player even if the disc tray was full of Camel dung upon delivery. :D
post #225 of 302
or how about this review from Gizmodo, which starts off with the headline

Hands-On: Samsung BD-P1000 Blu-ray Player


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Samsung has produced a very interesting product. The BD-P1000 is a large, healthy device with a 20 second BRD load-time and a crisp, clean picture. On a full 1080p set, the picture is as crisp as fresh-baked pizza and the audio is surround-sound-alicious. Whereas our experience with Toshiba?s offering was sub-par, the brief time that we were able to spend with the BD-P1000 proved two things: Samsung knows their **** and the BR is probably the horse to bet on.
the punchline of course is

Quote:
We'll be getting a player next week, but until then, let?s mull over the various possibilities for the two formats and see what we, the Gizmodo quorum, feel
I wonder just how "brief" the time was they needed to ascertain the Samsungs (and by extension Bds) superiority :rolleyes:
post #226 of 302
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Originally Posted by oshodi
Based on the info by the CNET reviewer, every Sammy comes standard with the movie "Momento" in the box. (probably trying to give a little incentive because of the list price).
We didn't see a BD disc in the two units we bought. Maybe it is hidden some place. Did anyone else who bought the unit get this title?
post #227 of 302
I did not get any movie in my Blu Ray box.... Who did? I have no demo disc either....
post #228 of 302
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Originally Posted by kpup
David, if you wish to direct conversation on this forum and consequently be in a better mood, you should start a new thread with clearly defined rules as you like.

For me, the pricing of the Samsung player along with it features and performance compared to the Toshiba player are what will help me to decide to go with Blu-ray or HD DVD.

Thank you to the original poster for making such a comparison.
Your comments seem sensible to me.
post #229 of 302
Picked one up at BB today, just unloading their truck, they had three. Was told they will not carry BluRay titles, only HD-DVD. If you want BluRay, he said they are online only. Ha ha ha....
post #230 of 302
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Originally Posted by Likvid
Ferrari isn't that good as you think they are, and yes they are overpriced for the quality you get.

Just compare it to a Porsche which is built to last on the track without parts dropping off the chassis like Ferrari.

Ferrari is all about design and people paying stupid money just to show off.
WHOA!!!! That's it. I have been able to wade through the carping about $500 and $1000 players,trying to pick out the precious bits of REAL info about the new Samsung being bought at BB. Ferrari overpriced??? You have no clue !! Its not about showing off,people just can't ignore it,its not even the money.The single most haunting and melodious motor vehicle ever conceived. Hand fashioned by MASTER craftsman in every single detail. The fact that you have to call the shop to come start it when you have that perfect day to enjoy it is beside the point, and totally acceptable. The pitch of its song is incredible. The meshing of gears stirs ones insides, reminiscent of a first loves breath on your whatever!!! Don't misunderstand,Porsches make nice drivers,have left an incredible racing legacy,but, FERRARI RULES.Thats what my grandson says anyway.
post #231 of 302
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Originally Posted by Paulidan
or how about this review from Gizmodo, which starts off with the headline

Hands-On: Samsung BD-P1000 Blu-ray Player




the punchline of course is



I wonder just how "brief" the time was they needed to ascertain the Samsungs (and by extension Bds) superiority was :rolleyes:
I am willing to go with the best product, but this makes me feel like I am in a football game with one side or the other. I was set to plunk down $1,000 but not for what I am reading about now. The Tosh had its problems but they have delivered, I will wait out my next purchase. I want Disney etc. but not with inferrer codex, and audio, thank you.
post #232 of 302
Time to go see if there's something in the box I missed...but somehow, I doubt it.

By the way, Amir...can you get Toshiba to at least market their box (or technology) at some of the big box stores (and I mean big time...nice graphics, slick promotional material (the brochure at BB is *not* what I'm talking about), standees...you know, actually hype it a bit (AIDA you know)??? Maybe also get some training materials on the technology to these people (heck, just a tear sheet would be cool). It pains me that it's not being given a fair shake in these stores...every time I go to Best Buy, it seems as if I'm explaining the HD DVD vs BD (fairly mind you), and they're mostly riveted by what I'm talking about. Hell, I went in today to see if I could snag a copy of Terminator early (no), and I found myself explaining the differences of each to a *customer*, what the Toshiba could do and what the Samsung could do, etc etc.

My gut feeling is both technologies are pretty good, especially with the firmware upgrade with the Toshiba. I love my HDA1 with what it provides, and I hope to equally love the BD player once I have media.
post #233 of 302
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Originally Posted by amirm
We didn't see a BD disc in the two units we bought. Maybe it is hidden some place. Did anyone else who bought the unit get this title?
Nope... no discs of any kind. I was kinda bummed, as I expected a demo disc in the box.

I hit up 5 stores and couldn't find one Blu-ray title.
post #234 of 302
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Originally Posted by Andrew P
I think $299 is the magic number, but $500 is definitely closer...
$299's the mass market number. I was saying that discounters like Wal-Mart and Target don't carry too many big ticket items. Most of their TV's are under $1000....
post #235 of 302
The BB in San Diego (Mission Valley) has the Blue Ray player, however, no movies or demo disk. The sales guy put in a SD disk of Batman Returns and it looked pretty good upscaled.
post #236 of 302
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Originally Posted by BigMikeATL
Nope... no discs of any kind. I was kinda bummed, as I expected a demo disc in the box.
That demo disc was probably given only to the reviewers ...
post #237 of 302
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Originally Posted by cityscapex5
No sign of Sammy's here in Nocal as well (SF Area) ... with all the techheads here you would think this would be a high priority area for them.
The San Carlos store has one on the shelf, out of the box but not connected to any display.
post #238 of 302
The San Carlos store does have them to sell. I bought one there on Thursday, They are up on top above the speakers/tv displays where they keep there overstock. I went back today and it looked like they now had 3 of them up there and the open one on the shelf. No movies there or anywhere else I could find though. :(
post #239 of 302
Yesterday I authored a HD-DVD disk image small enough to burn onto DVD-R (350mb) that plays an enormous 30mbps MPEG2 file in 1080i, and also has the same content mirrored in SD 480i. So the same disk plays in SD on any normal DVD player, and HD on HD-DVD.

The content itself is an Xbox Live Marketplace trailer, upscaled from 720p/60, which my company produced.

I'd like to do the same test with Blu-Ray and have an ISO disk image ready to go.

If any of you Sammy owners would like to test this image, please PM me for the download link (about 320mb RARed, burn with DVD Decrypter or Alcohol 120%).
post #240 of 302
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Originally Posted by BigMikeATL
$299's the mass market number. I was saying that discounters like Wal-Mart and Target don't carry too many big ticket items. Most of their TV's are under $1000....
I spend up to 2k on sd dvd/universal players....and realize that 99.00 or less is mass market when it comes to players.
Were do these 299.00 numbers come from?

Anymore reports of Samsung sightings?
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