Samsung Blu-ray BDP-1000 - First End User Reports - OWNERS ONLY! - Page 61

I've already contacted Samsung and they said to wait for the next update whenever that may be...

FYI- Philips has a newer firmware for the BDP9000, which essentially a clone of the BD-P1000. I have used the Samsung firmware on the Philips- I assume the Philips would work with the Samsung. You may want to try that.

does anyone know of a place where i can get the 1.3 version firmware? I can't find a place to dl it on the net anywhere.

sf49ersnfl - check your PM

I just bought a Samsung BDP-1000 on ebay for a good deal. My question is that even though it takes forever to load and has some issues playing newer discs Am I going to notice a picture/sound quality difference with a newer player?

(i'm using a 1080p 61" Samsung DLP (hlt6176s))

There shouldn't be any difference in video quality I don't think. Just make sure you have the latest firmware update. I don't think there are that many compatibility problems, it just takes a while to load.

I have two BDP-1000 players and run firmware revision 1.3. I've yet to hit a disc that doesn't play (though admittedly, there are plenty I haven't tried), still, although it isn't always especially quick to load, I consider the picture and sound quality to be excellent !

Have you compared the picture from your Samsung to any of the newer players? After dumping my 1000 and buying a Panasonic, I can definitely tell you there is a difference in the PQ. Just saying.

I'm not asserting the BDP-1000 provides the pinnacle of BD picture quality, but I do consider the PQ to be excellent. Until such time as I run into problems playing discs, I see little point in changing!

Nobody asked you to change. And it's great that you think the PQ you get is excellent. I thought the same too, until I bought something else.

Comparing the Samsung and the Panasonic(s) I have now, the difference is noticeable. The Samsung always delivered a soft picture and added a certain amount of grain to the equation. Colors weren't as vibrant either. Never realized it until I switched.

As far as playability problems, you must be the luckiest person on the face of the earth to not have any issues with that player. Nothing more frustrating than waiting 5 or more minutes for a disc to load, and only to get that "disc cannot be played' message appear on the screen.

Pretty sure the 1000 sort of cheats to give you 1080p. (I believe it converts to 1080i first)

PQ is pretty good, but there is a slight softness compared to most other players with a recent manufacture date.

There seems to be a communication problem here. The HD pictures from all of these players are excellent compared to any other players, you then get down to the granularity of which HD picture on which player is superior to which. It reminds me of audio cables where you can purchase from a wide stratosphere of cables, all with differing shades of sonic quality.

As I said in my post "I'm not asserting the BDP-1000 provides the pinnacle of BD picture quality, but I do consider the PQ to be excellent. Until such time as I run into problems playing discs, I see little point in changing!" My point being that in my opinion, the picture is sufficiently excellent, that I personally wouldn't be concerned with upgrading. The "upgrading" concept being only presented as an indicator that I do indeed consider the picture to be of a high enough order to satisfy me. Please read again the first bolded sentence above -- it means exactly what I meant it to mean !

Also, please recognize that my post in no way criticizes you or anyone else who has moved on for whatever reasons to some other player. That has nothing to do with me and I won't lose any sleep over it. At such time that I become dissatisfied with my own players, I will be looking for replacements too! This is exactly my statement in the second bolded sentence above. Whatever you're reading into my post was not put there by me.

Yes, it extracts 1080i first, but that 1080i contains all the information necessary to recreate the original 1080p -- no information is lost due to that. Given the original release problem was a filter having been left at a fairly high setting, we know there's a filter present. They corrected that with a firmware update, but that doesn't mean they backed the filter all the way off -- perhaps just set it much lower.

Hey dude -- peace! I can think of at least four possible reasons for my having fewer problems.

1) One player had a drive and main board replacement immediately after I got it (because it went belly up). The other was replaced by a PS3 not too long after the seller purchased it -- meaning, it was in near new condition.

2) The only discs I play on either player are BD. So, I'd expect that to slow down any age induced pickyness.

3) It's entirely possible I haven't tried to play the discs that have been a source of trouble. So far, every disc I've tried to play has played properly with rev 1.3 (only exception being one with surface damage -- took a little spotting though). However, I've had to unload and reload a disc on occasion. The only disc I'm aware of that causes trouble is the new X-Files film. Presumably there are others, but although I've asked, I still don't know them. As the new X-Files didn't interest me, I don't know if my players would have trouble or not.

4) The problem is specific to component playback, not HDMI.

On an associated note, I bought a sealed copy of Gothika HD DVD and couldn't play it on either my HDV-5000 or A-2 (both play my other HD DVD fine), but the sealed BD replacement played without a hickup ! That's the first time I've gone BD due to problems with an HD DVD. I think the HD DVD was defective, but the Amazon seller says machine compatibility issues -- whatever!

I've got plenty of BD I've yet to try, and if there are other problem titles that I happen to have, I'll give them a whirl. I just won't buy titles soley to learn if they'll play OK!

New firmware posted today 4/15/09. I am at work, I will load this evening. I hope this solves the skipping issues I have had ever since the fireware update in December 2008. Player worked great up until then. I have two other BD players, I use this as the bedroom unit.

What does it fix?

Thanks for the tip !

2.0 BDP1000_XAA_090408.zip

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/do...&menu=download

I installed the firmware update and "The X-Files I Want to Believe" still doesn't load. I then called Samsung and went to second level support (you wouldn't believe how little even 2nd level support knows about the BD-P1000) and they basically said that it may never work. I guess some movies require an internet connection and because the 1000 never had the ethernet input, it may never play some movies. Great huh? I will never buy another Samsung product again.

AGREED!
Samsung is coming up with some lame excuses (including your above statement) as to why some Blu-ray discs may never play on the BD-P1000. My Panasonic BD55 has never been connected to the ethernet for anything and yet it plays every Blu-ray I own.

Samsung also has never answered why the player also will not play certain discs via component - out, putting the message on-screen:

"Due to current Analog Restriction Current setup cannot be displayed. To playback, please switch to HDMI output mode."

That's totally BULL**** because the Studios DID NOT restrict the Analog video as these same Blu-ray discs will play fine with COMPONENT-OUT from players like the Panasonic DMP-BD55.

Paul

But if that's what they're saying, that's so ridiculous! No disc should "require" internet access, but at worst, the player firmware should easily be able to stub out disc internet requests if the supporting hardware (or internet connection for that matter) isn't present. That's not rocket science.

If there still isn't a solution for that disc problem, assuming it's common to all BDP-1000 players, then it suggests they've back burnered it. It's too bad they (among others) don't indicate what corrections are installed in new firmware releases. I'm just glad BDP-1000 firmware releases thus far (hopefuly also 2.0) are reversible -- some players don't allow returning to a previous revision. What other titles don't play properly on the BDP-1000? I only see X-Files mentioned.

Quick follow-up to the firmware post from yesterday. I did install the 4/15/09 update and I am happy to report the skipping issue that I incurred after the 12/08 update has been resolved. I tried four or five BD's (hit all major studios) and thankfully the issue that I was experiencing has been remedied. I don't have the X-Files disc, sorry. My BDP-1000 is back in business!!

I installed the v2.0 firmware with hope that my x files movies finally can be viewed and... Nothing but the same spining circle of dots, that's a lame... And we all know that samsung customers care are bad but I don't know if any of you realize that in the download center the new firmware is describe as: update v1.9(again???) and release date April 15th 2008!!! (step back in time), I just can say if samsung don't pay atention in these little things what we can expect from their updates

If a firmware upgrade failed due to power outage and the machine will now not start, is the only answer a factory repair ? As it's out of warranty, I think it will be going in the bin....
John

Power failure during the writing phase of the update process is normally fatal -- that's why the player screen text warns not to kill the power.

Unfortunately the local electricity board killed power to the whole area for over 40 minutes

How does Samsung repair it ? New motherboard or forced update through a service port ?

John

Probably new motherboard.

Yes, probably a lot easier/quicker for the technician than replacing the flash chip.

I've updated the firmware to 2.0 and can gladly say that everything I throw at the unit seems to work great.. With the exception of menu's on Blu Rays not displaying properly. For example Wall-E works fine, but I can not access nor see additional features on the disc. Anyone know a fix or is this something we have to live with?

Does anyone know how long Samsung will continue to support the BD-P1000? Is 2.0 going to be the last firmware for it?

With the advances in computer firmware over the last few years and with the original price of this player being over $1000, Samsung should support this player as long as Bluray is a format.