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post #661 of 1912
84" screen here. 720p projector.
post #662 of 1912
I am a Toshiba HD-A1 owner who is considering adding the Samsung Blue Ray player to my front projection system so I can buy any title that I desire.

Can anyone tell me how you would know that you are buying a player that already has the new firmware installed?

For instance, from the serial #?
post #663 of 1912
I wish had never bought this damn thing! Take a look at post #25 of the following thread (mine).

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post9597030
post #664 of 1912
Quote:
Originally Posted by William L Carman View Post

I am a Toshiba HD-A1 owner who is considering adding the Samsung Blue Ray player to my front projection system so I can buy any title that I desire.

Can anyone tell me how you would know that you are buying a player that already has the new firmware installed?

For instance, from the serial #?

I just bought mine from Buy.com about a week and a half ago and it did not come with the latest software version. I'm almost sure that wherever you get yours will not come with the latest version. It was fairly simple to upgrade though as long as you have internet service and a CD/DVD burner. I am happy with it so far but I've only seen two Blu-ray movies on it and will try a SD DVD tonight. I also use it as a CD player because I got rid of my 9 year old CD player and put the BD-P1000 in it's place. I use it as the CD player because it is much faster than the HD A1 HD DVD player I have.
post #665 of 1912
I've been working on a table (attached as a PDF file) that shows how the Samsung BD-P1000 handles different audio formats over different audio connection types based on settings. Its based on the table from the Sony BDP-S1 player.
Based on what I've read online and in the manual, the Philips behaves the same way.
The cells in Lt. Blue are what I've actually tested with a limited supply of available BD movies. The others are (educated?) guesses based on those I've tested and also reading the manuals.
If anyone has anything to add, or corrections to make, please let me know and I'll update the document and re-post it.
P.S. What I've done is based on using the Samsung BDP1000 with my Panasonic XR57 receiver using 5.1ch analogs, HDMI and digital optical/coax connections.

 

SamsungBDP1000Audio.pdf 24.8203125k . file
post #666 of 1912
WS- Nice table!

Will you confirm that even with a 7.1 BD source like Crank, the BD-P1000 will output only 5.1 LPCM on the HDMI?
post #667 of 1912
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Originally Posted by FLBoy View Post

WS- Nice table!

Will you confirm that even with a 7.1 BD source like Crank, the BD-P1000 will output only 5.1 LPCM on the HDMI?

Not sure I can. When I played Crank through my AV receiver (Panasonic XR57) using HDMI it did not emit any audio through the back speaker, so just 5.1. I don't know if the apparent lack of 7.1 was due to the Samsung not passing 7.1 over HDMI or if it was the receiver. Maybe someone with the BD-P1000, Crank, and a different receiver can confirm if 7.1 capability is there.
post #668 of 1912
Hi guys,

Updated Firmware for BD-1000 is now available for download form www.1080x1920.net (free registration required).
They have also quite few other interesting things there, like Manuals, HD Test Files, FREE CD Disk Image Burning Utilities and such!

Kris
post #669 of 1912
Anybody else having the same problem? I've been having this problem with all the latest discs.

Link:
Consumer Alert: Samsung BD-P1000 Blu-ray Players @ DVDTown.com

Quote:
Announcement
By James Plath
FIRST PUBLISHED Feb 4, 2007
Samsung recently announced they would bring to market their "next generation of Blu-ray players." That's good, because since Dean Winkelspecht's and my generally favorable reviews of two units that were purchased at the $1000 consumer price, both of our players have had the same malfunctioning problem. It's impossible to tell if the problem extends beyond these two players, but the malfunction is serious enough that it needs to be reported.

What happens in apparently defective units is that a Blu-ray disc will not load when you insert it and press the open/close button. It takes forever for a line of blue dots to go from left to right across your screen, and then the disc tray will open again with one of the following messages: "No Disc" or "This Disc Cannot Be Played."

At first, both Dean and I thought it was the same sort of problem encountered with DVD players, where CERTAIN discs cannot be played on certain machines. But when I shipped my review copy of "Speed" back to the Fox people and asked for a replacement, the first thing their publicist asked me was what type of player I had. When I told him, he remarked that they've been having a lot of problems with the Samsung players.

Okay, I thought. Either it's the Fox discs and the way that they layer and/or encrypt the material on their discs, or else it's a hardware problem. When discs from Buena Vista, Sony, and Magnolia also started malfunctioning the very same way, I became convinced that the problem was with the player. Dean reached the same conclusion, and now uses a PS-3 to view his Blu-ray discs.

When I contacted Customer Services at Samsung to tell them about the problem, they said it was the first they had heard of it. I asked for a replacement rather than a repair, explaining that as a reviewer I can't be without a player for two weeks, and that with a repair rather than a second unit to preview I would have no way of gauging whether the problem was exclusive to the first batch of Samsung Blu-ray players (both of ours were purchased last June) or whether this new wave player also has the same problem. Unfortunately, Samsung wouldn't send out a player, so we have no way of knowing whether the problem has been corrected.

Now, whenever I pop a Blu-ray disc in the player, every single disc spits right back out at me. It takes anywhere from three to ten repeated attempts before the unit will finally load the disc. Sometimes I get up and rotate the disc and it seems to work. Dean said he tried shutting off the power and then powering it up with the disc inside, and that seemed to work. Is it a pain in the butt? Certainly. Plus it causes wear and tear on the disc tray. In addition, there are times when the picture will freeze in the early frames, and then all will be well . . . but for how long, I have to wonder. Perhaps it as something to do with the unit being warmed up, because once I get one disc to play, if I pop in another one immediately afterwards, it loads right away, with none of the regurgitate-disc nonsense.

Samsung makes some fine products, but if you plan on buying one of their Blu-ray players, make sure you've read more recent reviews and tested at least one disc on the store display model before you plunk down that $1000. The problem may or may not have been fixed.
post #670 of 1912
I have just purchased a used unit with the newest firmware in it . I played three blu-ray disks in it Saturday and they all loaded correctly. they were X-Men Last Stand, The Descent , and Elvis Costello Live in Memphis.
post #671 of 1912
Quote:
Originally Posted by k.berger View Post

Hi guys,

Updated Firmware for BD-1000 is now available for download form www.1080x1920.net (free registration required).
They have also quite few other interesting things there, like Manuals, HD Test Files, FREE CD Disk Image Burning Utilities and such!

Kris

What is the latest version number?
post #672 of 1912
Quote:
Originally Posted by RBurgundy View Post

Anybody else having the same problem? I've been having this problem with all the latest discs.

Link:
Consumer Alert: Samsung BD-P1000 Blu-ray Players @ DVDTown.com


My first unit (older refurb) stopped working with this same behavior after about two weeks. Swapped it out with a new unit (later build date) been solid ever since.
post #673 of 1912
On samsungs website they now have a newer FW update ver 1.0 but dated 2-6-2007
post #674 of 1912
different date but looks exactly the same to me.
post #675 of 1912
I just updated the main FW but loader and sub were the same.
post #676 of 1912
Filename is the same as it was in October and December...
20061020152156328_ISO_bdp1000_xaa_061011_01.zip
The 061011 in the filename is the date (Oct. 11th 2006).
The file inside the Zip is also still dated 10/13/2006.
So no change. Don't waste time downloading this if you already got the orogonal Oct. 06 release.
post #677 of 1912
I just sent my player in to samsung today for the exact same problem. I bought it last july and they waived to labor fee (90 on labor.)

All in all I was impressed by their support.
post #678 of 1912
I just sold my June 06 build date player last week. The reason I sold it because it was doing exactly what was mentioned in that article a few weeks ago and Samsung repaired it for me. It was a refurb so I had to pay the $30 fee but they turned it around very quick. Really glad I unloaded it though. Love my PS3.
post #679 of 1912
[b]I have had my sammy since 2 weeks before the official release. Was a bit upset with the pq and the company. After finally getting all the updates love it. I have HDA-1 and love it also always thought it better. but now the sammy is the better of the two and use it most. I never had the sticking problem or refusal to play discs. It has worked flawlessly as far as the mechanics goes so does the A-1. so I guess it was luck of the draw. Have over 25 tittles and now use it to upscale standard DVD most times.
post #680 of 1912
Just updated mine the main FW was the same but the sub FW was different, can some one tell me what the sub FW does?
post #681 of 1912
I just spoke with Samsung and they said the latest firmware is that which is dated 10/06. This is another case of someone submitting a false statement to these forums without verifying anything first. I wish people would stop doing this and wasting our time.
post #682 of 1912
J&R has it for $499 this weekend. Finally a sub $500 Blu-ray player.
post #683 of 1912
I seen a sealed furb the other day go for $399. I paid $450 shipped a few months ago now.

I still really like the player, I won't think about changing unless titles come out that it just won't play at all.
post #684 of 1912
I received one of these players the other day and the first thing I did was update the firmware. It was purchased refurbished.
The first Blu-ray movie I have tried is "The Guardian". After the previews it popped up with a menu asking me to enter the standard or enhanced version. There was a note that said that not all players are compatible with the enhanced version. I tried it anyway and nothing seemed to happen. I just saw the colored balls moving across the screen for a few minutes. I finally gave up and had to restart the player.
What's the deal? Is this player not fully compatible with all the Blu-ray features?

By the way, the movie looked pretty amazing on my 1080p 52" Sharp Aquos.
post #685 of 1912
Did the firmware update only fix 4:3 content on actual Blu-Ray discs? I'd like to be able to see 4:3 content from standard DVDs in the correct aspect ratio, not stretched.
post #686 of 1912
Quote:
Originally Posted by BulkHedd View Post

Did the firmware update only fix 4:3 content on actual Blu-Ray discs? I'd like to be able to see 4:3 content from standard DVDs in the correct aspect ratio, not stretched.

Only fixed on BD discs. SD 4:3 is still stretched.
post #687 of 1912
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Originally Posted by bdhart View Post

Only fixed on BD discs. SD 4:3 is still stretched.

Well that stinks. I wonder if there is any chance they will fix it.
post #688 of 1912
I found this out last night. I usually watch my "Star Trek" SD series disks on my Toshiba HD-A1 but I decided to try it out on the BD-P1000. At first I thought I was seeing things but then I realized that the picture was streched to fill the 16x9 screen. I'm thinking, maybe if we change the resolution to 480p, then the 3x4 aspect ratio would be correct. I didn't try it, so I don't know if that will correct it or not.
post #689 of 1912
Quote:
Originally Posted by lujan View Post

I found this out last night. I usually watch my "Star Trek" SD series disks on my Toshiba HD-A1 but I decided to try it out on the BD-P1000. At first I thought I was seeing things but then I realized that the picture was streched to fill the 16x9 screen. I'm thinking, maybe if we change the resolution to 480p, then the 3x4 aspect ratio would be correct. I didn't try it, so I don't know if that will correct it or not.

Yes, setting the output to 480p does work but that's kind of a stupid thing to have to do.
post #690 of 1912
Quick question for everyone with the Sammy, did any of you buy the extended warranty that stores offer? Is it worth it? I just recently bought the player from Bestbuy and they give you 30 days to decide on if you want the service plan for 4 years but its $130. What do you guys suggest? The MFW is one year parts and labor correct?
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